would have been nice if scott would have asked him some real questions. we are not the hate trump media. let not your heart be troubled. laura standing by in dc tonight. >> laura: hannity do you think people think you're the hate trump media? [ laughter ] i mean come on. >> sean: sort of like a little distinction. >> laura: okay. i was a little confused. >> sean: everyone speculates about the relationship with the president. i've known the president for over two decades. >> laura: i too have known him that long. >> sean: i knew he would govern conservatively, he has. i knew he wouldn't stop fighting for the wall. he's fighting and he's winning. he makes up his own mind p how many people told him to stop tweeting? he's not going to listen. >> laura: he's always been his own man. the funniest thing is when people think well, he watches fox or listens to someone and

that's just his view. if you think donald trump doesn't come to the table with his own set of views and ideas for policies then you really don't know the guy at all. >> sean: he tele graphs every day he's going to declare a national emergency. i will find the other funds. they're too full of rage to listen to them. >> laura: big shock. great show tonight. >> sean: he said it. >> laura: i'm also not the hate trump media, by the way. >> sean: you're not. >> laura: i want to clarify that. >> sean: i liked your interview down in el paso. >> laura: it was fun. hannity thanks so much. i'm laura ingraham, this is the "ingraham angle" from washington tonight. the crumbling case of jussie smollett and the shameful rise of the hate crime hoaxes in the age of the president, president trump. now while the national media was happy to push the smollett narrative we'll speak exclusively to a local reporter who was suspicious from the start. breaking moments ago deputy

attorney general rod rosenstein set to officially step down next month. very sad. joe digenova has been calling for this for a long time. he's here to react with that and a lot more. and what do former fbi leaders think of that andy mccabe interview with "60 minutes" last night? two will join us later in the hour, you do not want to miss it. unfiltered thoughts from men who were actually there and understood the professionalism required at the fbi. but first, phony victims who inflict real pain. that's the focus of tonight's angle. when the jussie smollett story first broke many in the media seemed positively giddy. they were thrilled to push "the story," the maga hatted thugs attack a black gay liberal actor all in the name of donald trump attack of the tv star "empire", jussie smollett

actor musician jussie smollett was attacked and beaten early this morning in chicago the hollywood star who is black and gay and now the victim of a heinous crime the racial slurs and homophobic slurs being used toward him you can see how serious this crime is right now. >> absolutely despicable, this is america in 2019. >> laura: only as the chicago police department investigated smollett's story, none of it added up. now police sources are telling various networks that smollett himself choreographed the attack. paying a pair of nigerian brothers to carry it out. to even giving them money to buy rope at a local hardware store to make the news. the trio even rehearsed the encounter in advance. yet just last week the "empire" actor was afforded a friendly platform on gma to shop and defend his anti-trump script i can only go off of their words.

i mean, who says "bleep" "empire" "bleep"? this maga country? "bleep" "bleep." >> why do you think you were targeted? sfrmths i can only just assume. i come really, really hard against 45. i come really, really hard against his administration. and i don't hold my tongue. >> laura: and the oscar goes to -- well -- but eventually those stubborn things called facts got in the way. suddenly cnn and others it are now doing the backstroke there was a rush to judgment, i think it was mostly in the celebrity press and among activists and twitter people. i think it was really careful reporting by news organizations if it turns out that smollett did indeed orchestrate this attack, paid the attackers, then he's done infinitely more

damage to the african-american community, people of color there's a lot to be concerned about here. so let's start with the fact that we don't have all the facts yet. we should get them. i think one thing we've learned from how this story has unfolded, is let's wait and see >> laura: finally are, let's wait and see. [ laughter ] >> laura: some journ lifts seemed to fall into a state of it mourning. in the words of lindsey bahr the outrage has now been replaced by surprise, doubt and bafflement as the singers, actors and politicians who came out to support the "empire" star struggled to understand the strange twist the case has taken. some conservative pundits have agree any seized on the moment. no lindsey you're wrong. it was the left, the political media and hollywood establishment that seized on the moment. this smollett tall tale advanced their anti-trump zealotry. now we're learning just the inverse is true.

media and political heavy weights were once again willing to slander innocent people, an entire class of people in a desperate attempt to just identify their hatred of donald trump. the 2020 president hopefuls fell all over themselves, cory booker and kamala harris called it a modern day lynching and urged anti lynching legislation in response to the attack. on sunday booker suddenly took a more sober, coffee approach saying he wouldn't further address the matter until quote all information comes out. how convenient. if the only he had exercised such caution when "the story" first broke. of course he tried to get off the defensive really fast, though, contending at a town hall that: we know in america that bigoted and biased attacks are on the rise. in a serious way.

we actually even know in this country since 9/11 the majority of terrorist attacks on our soil have been right wing terrorist attacks [ laughter ] >> laura: the man has absolutely zero shame. ditto for kamala harris. which tweet? what tweet? >> about saying that it is a modern day lynching, that -- i'm sorry [ laughter ] >> jussie smollett. okay. so i will say this about that case. i think that the facts are still unfolding. and i'm very concerned about obviously the initial allegation that he made about what might have happened. >> laura: i like how she does this -- and then laughs. it's really funny. not! well of course the dim bulbs in the entertainment industry were also eager to advance the maga lynching story taking smollett

at his word despite circumstances that were really fishy from the outset. comedian actress ellen page made the trip to colbert where she made the mistake of delivering her own lines the vice-president of america wishes i didn't have the love with my wife. connect the dots. this is what happens. if you were in a position of power and you hate people, and you want to cause suffering to them, you go through the trouble, you spend your career trying to cause suffering, what do you think is gonna happen? and people are gonna be beaten on the street. . >> laura: well this is the classic example of wish fulfillment syndrome. what when you want something so desperately that you're able to ignore the obvious warning signs. think about it this way. the left has so much identity on the plot line that trump is a really bad man that they need

him to be a really bad man. one who in spires vitto try on and violence like the sort that the "empire" actor alleged. now smollett himself is rabidly anti-trump and speculations swirling that he original straight the foe attack to propel himself to some type of hero status in hollywood. in other words think of the new super hero, jussie the maga slayer. well the same rush to judgment though happened recently with the covington catholic high school boys when allegations became liberal gospel. the white kids in the head hats may as well have been wearing white hoods. kavanaugh accusers christine blasey-ford and julie wet nick before him, smollett was allowed to dominate a news cycle because his allegations ultimately reflected badly on president trump or so he hoped. where is the justice when the social justice warriors are

actually the ones purveying fraud, hatred and poison? nick sandmann that covington catholic kid is right to sue everyone who accused him of racism. and i hope he wins big! brett kavanaugh had his life turned upside-down in the most humiliating way. we're still waiting for the doj prosecution of swetnick and avenatti. and meanwhile blasey-ford herself collected over $800,000 through a go fund me account. supposedly applied to cover her security costs! and as for that feinstein staffer who likely leaked her original letter, we're still waiting on the senate judiciary committee's findings there. the fact is most of the left wing false accusers operate with impunity because conservatives usually choose to just move on. that's a huge mistake. if these phone it's like smollett aren't made to pay for

their defamatory tall tails we'll see more of it as 2020 approaches. even the man who is in the false narrative hall of fame seems to kind of agree. if it is found that smollett and these gentlemen did in some way perpetrate something that is not true, they ought to face accountability to the maximum. but let's not act like this is some left wing hoax that some are saying on social media. >> laura: oh no, it's not a left wing hoax at all al. okay. what is it then? oh, oh, speaking of frauds, maybe andrew mccabe can argue that the president himself hired smollett and the my jeans were at the behest of the russians to carry out the whole thing! they might as well try to bring all these fraudulent story lines together. think about how much fun that will be. and that's "the angle". joining me now is someone who

has done some of the best and some of the most honest reporting on this case from day one. is rafer weigel. and he's a reporter with our fox affiliate in chicago and he joins us now. rafer when did this story to you start looking really suspicious? rnths well as soon as we heard about it. i first off want to apologize for my casual dress here, i'm on a mini vacation with my son here in las vegas. i dressed for cirque du soleil not for your show. >> laura: no problem, you're excused okay. thank you. as soon as police let us know about it. i immediately called my sources at chicago pd. my colleagues and i in the media locally were skeptical from the very beginning and so were the police. that's our job to be skeptical. if your mother tells you will she loves you, check it out. when we started reporting this story in chicago we did not report that jussie smollett was attacked, we reported that jussie smollett says he was attacked. i've groen up in chicago, lived there most of my life.

this was a pretty outlandish claim that he made given the geography, streeterville which is a very heavily populated area, a lot of people walking around. something as extreme as this, wearing red hats, carrying bleach, putting a noose around someone's neck, it seemed unlikely that no one would have accepted n. videotaped with a cell phone. >> laura: i have so many questions. did anyone from the national media call you and say look rafer you know the area, long time resident, chicago, what are you hearing? because i was seeing a lot of people -- it was almost agree fully jumping on "the story" yeah. >> laura: because it fulfilled a narrative that a lot of people on the left or who lean left want to believe that donald trump hates all these people i'm generally a defender of my profession, when we get attacked. but at the end of the day we did mostly drop the ball.

we did not at fox 32 but my media cohorts did when they immediately reported that he was attacked without getting all of the facts. when i tweeted out the skepticism that i was getting from within the chicago police department i was attacked. and i didn't take it personally because i did know that they were, you know these were people who wanted a specific narrative. but i felt confident in my sources that, you know, everything that i was learning was accurate. they told me you can bet on this. yes, he was carrying the subway sandwich on video when he walked back into his condo. we didn't find this on video anywhere. >> laura: it didn't have -- you were attacked. everyone watching, first of all thank you for coming on when you're supposed to be with your family. really appreciate it. everyone wanted you on their show tonight, thank you for coming on. this is what black lives matter spokesman said, d e.r.a. y, he said i realized today chicago reporter rafer weigel is

responsible for much of the misinformation disseminated by chicago pd sources about jussie smollett as he literally just repeats whatever the police say. and there were other similar things, chad griffin also said something very similar about leaks that were given to local reporters. and basically this is why victims of hate crimes, what they fear and why they often stay silent. so the microscope was trained on you and your local reporter colleagues at other networks who were just like, guys, who walks into their apartment with a noose around their neck? or waits to take the noose off? none of that made sense to kind of just regular working reporters. yet you're attacked well i didn't take it personally. i mean you know at the end of the day real journalism shouldn't be partisan. i understand this is a story that became heavily poll lit sized from the left and right. we wanted to stick to the facts.

we do have an intimate relationship with chicago pd. we have sources in there. they've told us things about this investigation that we are not reporting because we don't want to compromise the investigation. it's a delicate balance. we want to hold them accountable but at the same time we have to deliver what we know. sometimes we are getting things from sources that maybe they don't want us to report. for instance the fact that the brothers admitted that they were paid, that they did rehearse this, and that it was staged. you know from what i understand jussie smollett was on his way in to talk to police, once it got out that these brothers had essentially rolled over on him he changed his mind. i talked to his crisis manager anne kavanaugh this morning and they don't have any plans to bring him in. in terms of the reports of the grabbed jury tmz came out with that. that would be a last resort if smollett doesn't come in voluntarily. it's weird because his attorney said they're cooperating but right now it doesn't appear that

they are. >> laura: alright. rafer thank you so much for joining us and for your reporting on this in a sober pragmatic and unbiased manner. we really, really appreciate it. by the way we also learned today that as rafer just reported, smollett is refusing to meet with police. that according to the statement from his, as you heard, crisis management consultant. yes he has hired a crisis management consultant. now anne kavanaugh who rafer is talking to, saying smollett's attorneys will keep an active dialogue going with chicago police on his behalf. we have no further comment today. so at what point does the chicago police department compel smollett to speak to them? look what they did to roger stone. they showed up with like 17 vehicles and guns drawn. i'm not saying they should do that by the way. i'm talking about the overreaction with stone. to provide insight we're joined by former lapd detective, fox news contributor mark fuhrman. i've been dying to talk to you

about this case. from the beginning we had said here on this show, these are really serious allegations, they sound really bizarre. but every fact should be followed, i mean so this is what we said. it started to get odder and odder as time went on. but he won't speak to police now. i don't think he's going to speak unless he's compelled to. does that surprise you? no. not at all. i don't think he's going to. because he has nothing to say except for the truth. they're certainly not going to listen to his lies. they've got everything prepared to actually destroy every kind of alibi, lie or fantasy that he's gonna create. so when you look at this right from the beginning, the red flags are huge. first, this is not trump country in chicago. the second thing it wasn't much of a beating. all i saw for injuries was a little scratch on his right cheek. the suspects let him keep the

phone in which he was talking to his manager at the time of the attack and the manager heard the yelling and the screaming. so when you look at all this, and no property was taken, there wasn't much of a beating, it's one of those raised eyebrow things that the first officers feel when they get there. and the they tell the detectives, and they go, okay, let's go through the motions but this smells. and this smelled from the beginning. >> laura: yeah, from the beginning. i have the mean again you want to believe people, they make such incredibly serious ask disturbing allegations. i mean it's hard to believe people do this. but it happens. it happens with kavanaugh, it happened with the covington catholic kids. it's happened in other cases, looks like it very well could have happened here. mark you raised all the red flags from the beginning. i think a lot of people were afraid to talk about those because then you're being critical of someone who is a liberal, african-american gay

and then all those hateful per jor ra at thises come directed at you. pejoratives. now we find out the police went into the apartment or the place where the nigerian gentlemen were living and they seized a number of things from that apartment and they're cooperating fully with the police. can you go through why those items are so important to this investigation? the magazine and bleach and so forth? well everything that was involved in smollett's description of the attack on him, that's what they're looking for in the search warrant. so they have been unavailable. they've been in nigeria. so during this whole time i think the whole investigation for smollett really came apart february 11th when he failed and refused to give them un-redacted phone records. that was the first problem. then they knew that their suspicions were probably true. when the they got off the plane

and they arrested them and they issued this the search warrant and they went in, when they got these items now they know that these two men have been connected to get into the apartment and now they found evidence that further connects them. now they had to explain it all. when they got to the station i'm sure they were separated. i'm sure that they were confronted with the evidence and i'm sure they rolled over in a heartbeat. they rolled over simultaneously in two different rooms with the exact same story. they collaborated, i wouldn't doubt they gave them polygraphs, they probably gave them a money path, how the money was paid. >> laura: the magazine and letter that arrived jan 22nd. they seized the magazine. maybe those letters were found cut out of that magazine felt though this whole thing is -- developing facts, we're gonna follow them where they take us. mark thank you so much for joining us. it's not just smollett and the

covington high school boys fiasco, there are other hate crimes, hoaxes that we want to share with you tonight. dinesh d'souza will tell you what they reveal about our current culture and a lot more. stay there. so with xfinity mobile i can customize each line

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angry trump cans release attacks. here are a few of more than dozens. in december 2016 a muslim woman said she was attacked by three white trump supporters in new york city on the subway. she said they tried to rip off her i had january. well it never happened. a student at bowling green ohio said white males wearing trump shirts threw rocks at her and hurled racial slurs. protests in a university town hall ensued. the student made up the entire incident. in september of last year a woman told police on long island she was driving home where four teens condition fronted her and yelled trump 2016 and then told her she didn't belong here. that too was made up. here now is dinesh d'souza, conservative film maker and author. dinesh what does this tell us about the current political

climate and the culture today? well the first thing it tells us is that these fake racial incidents have become normalized. when the brawly case broke a generation ago, a bogus incident involving an african-american woman claiming to have abused and battered, people had to scratch their heads because this was such a freak episode. but now there's a procession of these bogus incidents of which the jussie smollett case is only the latest. now i think for people watching they're a little baffled because they probably think what kind of dementia causes someone to do this? why would somebody fabricate an incident? i think that we're dealing not so much with personal dementia, but what can be called ideological did i men shachlt you touched on it earlier. there is a narrative here they're trying to advance. the narrative is the maga

supporters, trump people are a bunch of racists. it's obviously a tribute to the trump officers that they are not racist because the jussie smollett's despite black and gay are going out there looking for people to pick on them and nobody is. so the facts are not supporting the narrative at all. they figure why not make up the facts? why not adapt the facts to the narrative rather than the other way around? i think this is the december menned psychology that drives these racial faked incidents. and the second reason for them is that they get away with it. >> laura: this is what my point is, dinesh conservatives are quick to sort of say let's move on. i don't want to dwell on this. and the fact that we don't have people in jail after what happened to brett kavanaugh, with that julie sweat neck, what avenatti was pushing, all the promises of evidence, of how he was drugging people, spiking the

punchbowl, gang rapes. you know and people just want to move on from that? i say no way. otherwise that stuff the continues. same deal with this smollett case. it occupied everybody's time. and the chicago pd was demonize did and of course trump supporters are made out to be these horrible, awful, terrible, rotten people because look your people are doing this to this poor actor it's important to realize that the jussie smollett incident is a hate crime. it's a hate crime but in the opposite direction. remember, if jussie smollett basically wanted to go and beat himself up that's not against the law. the real crime here was attempting to pin this blame on a bunch of people who did nothing. on innocent people. and it is this idea of trying to ultimately frame trump supporters for something that smollett himself perpetrated. so he's the perpetrator masquerading as the victim. it's important for him to be held accountable otherwise the

left thinks let's keep trying this stuff. when it works, it works, when it doesn't, we get away with it. >> laura: thank you so much dinesh. it's not enough to reveal those stories is hoaxes, as we're talking about, it's important to run the whole gamut of these phony scandals and hoaxes, and what happens after them? is anyone ever going to do time? is anyone going to get sued? is it going to stick? we're going to learn more about this. because today covington student nick sandmann's lawyer says the he's intending to file defamation suits this week. y yay. that got us thinking about what happened to the criminal referrals of michael avenatti and julie swetnick and the leak of christine blasey-ford's story. we reached out to the doj and fbi today, only the fbi got back to us. they say they had no comment. here now to weigh in, former u.s. attorney joe digenova. who is dropping the ball here?

what are the repercussions for this type of defamatory and criminal behavior? the department of justice for years has tried to avoid getting involved in these cases. and they're trying to do the same thing now. bill barr arrived today as the new attorney general. and he's gonna have a new deputy attorney general. i think he will make sure she s is -- these cases are looked at. julie swetnick and michael avenatti where they clearly submitted false affidavits and information to the senate committee under oath should be prosecuted. it should be put in front of a grand jury for this reason. we must prevent people from making false accusations during confirmation hearings so that they do not become again what the kavanaugh hearing became. i personally believe, not only did swetnick lie, i believe that christine blasey-ford lied >> laura: absolutely. absolutely i believe her entire

testimony was a falsehood. and i believe that she should be put in front of a grand jury and have her testimony investigated to the fullest. there is no doubt in my mind, and in my opinion, that she testified falsely against brett kavanaugh. but this must be investigated across the board or we will encourage people to do the same thing in the future. >> laura: right we cannot have that. >> laura: joe don't you agree that the republicans always talk a good game in the moment? and you and i discussed this, you were here, sol was here, we're going to investigate, we're referring and you get nothing. nothing happens well, of course the referral -- >> laura: i think we might have lost joe. we might have joe, but i think i know what joe was saying. his point is the referral has to then go somewhere. you can't just say we're referring it and then never follow through. but i'm sure the left never

let's go. they hold on. they have a death grip on an issue or a case. you have to give them credit. they don't say let's move o. they say how can we make the next point. joe thanks so much. get this, some folks on the other networks are seriously referring to disgraced former fbi director andy mccabe as a, quote, patriot. well up next, two former high ranking fbi officials are gonna tell us what they think about his actions. did you see that "60 minutes" interview? oh my goodness. we're going to play parts of it when we come back. stay there. when we come back. when we come back. stay there. when we started our business

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♪ ♪ . >> laura: well former fbi director an did i mccabe admitted on 60 minutes last night should alarm all of you i didn't know when i would be out of a job so i just put my head down and got to work,

trying to stabilize the people around me and doing the things i thought we needed to do with the russia investigation, getting cases open and getting a special counsel appointed. is there an inappropriate relationship a connection between this president and our most fear some enemy, the government of russia? >> are you saying that the president is in league with the russians? i'm saying that the fbi had reason to investigate that. we talked about why the president had insisted on firing the director and with whether or not he was thinking about the russia investigation and did that impact his decision? and in the context of that conversation, the deputy attorney general offered to wear a wire into the white house. now, he was not joking. he was absolutely serious. a discussion of the 25th amendment was simply rod raised the issue and discussed it with

me in the context of thinking about how many other cabinet officials might support such an effort. >> laura: okay. just to sumfort. >> laura: okay, just to sum up what he just copped to come of the newly promoted mccabe, out of political disdain, took upon himself to be the ultimate resistance hero. he's setting in motion a counter intel investigation against a sitting president of the united states, pushed for a special counsel and openly discussed removing duly elected president, commander-in-chief, from office. folks on the other networks are calling this guy patriot? what do former high-ranking fbi officials think about all this question right let's discuss with a couple grades. kevin brock was a former fbi assistant director for intel and terry turchie was a former deputy assistant director of counterterrorism in the counterterror division. kevin, you recently penned a piece calling mccabe's reemergence nursing. >> it's a huge embarrassment and

i think terry will agree that for former fbi agents, current fbi agents. what andrew mccabe is doing what he did last night further misled the american people and actually manipulated the american people. because now suddenly he's a victim. after perpetrating, along with jim comey, severe damage to the fbi because of their now what we know clear biases, he is going on a book tour copped to, the newly promoted mccabe out of political disdain took it upon himself to become the ultimate resistance hero. a counter intelligence the sitting president of the united states. push for a special counsel and openly discusses removing the duly elected president, commander in chief from office. folks on the other network are calling this guy a patriot. let's discuss with a couple of the greats. kevin brock former fbi assistant director and terry turchie, counter terrorism. kevin you recently penned a piece calling mccabe's reemergence embarrassing, why? i think terry will agree, for former fbi agents and current fbi agents right now, what andrew mccabe is doing, what he did last night, further miss is selling books. all the former fbi guys are pushing books which is amazing to us. so he's trying to rehabilitate himself. but the damage is done. and he continues to do more damage. he has claimed -- as you just pointed out -- when he became acting director he went on a bing of opening cases against the president of the united states. on the "60 minutes" interview gma night, he was deceptive and to

misleading >> laura: how so? give us a little tag he stated that he had clear and ar titiculable facts for opening up a case. he said the president criticized our investigation, number one. not a reason for opening a case. he said the president directed james comey to let michael flynn off the hook.el now he didn't. if you go back and look at james comey's notes he didn't say. that he said that rod rosenstein was pushed to put the russia investigation in. so there was all these things that don't rise to the level of opening up legitimate g investigations. he looked really earnest. this guy malcolm nance was on msnbc, this is how he described mccabe last night these phrases, taking down an elected president, bureaucratic coup, this is donald trump's characterization of what the patriots at the fbi and the department of justice who were defending the

constitution of the united states -- >> laura: terry that's all he was doing, defending the constitution yeah he sure was. i tell ya laura first of all i couldn't agree more with what kevin just said to you. and the i can't even watch this again without my blood boiling. three points, number one, as kevin well knows as all of us who worked in the fbi in those positions know what he essentially told us last night is after having unverified information for a year in the form of the christopher steele dossier and going to the white house and being angry because former director comey had been fired and not liking the president's demeanor and the way he delivered words he decided to go back and say the man was a great threat to america. that's what we have. it is embarrassing and egregious. i never thought in my lifetime i would see this. he opened that case in may of 2017. we had just come off by a couple of months, march, april, going

back into january of 2017 where guess what had happened? we had the outgoing obama administrationwh unmasking peop in the trump transition team. don't tell me the conclusions t now starting to come together and it's not all pointing to the president and russia. it's pointing directly at politics in the top layer of tho fbi. and kevin knows and i know and anybody that's been in those spots up there on the 7th floor knows the fbi agents who are working in those top positions were not following the cruels, the guidelines or all of the policies we've put together for decades to protect this. >> laura: guides, both of you, what kind of fbi acting director convenes or takes part in a meeting about the 25th amendment andn removing the president? is that part of what an acting fbi director's responsibility is? to pronounce over meetings or to take part in them? he should have immediately

got up and excused himself from that meeting and said i will not be part of this discussion. first of all the fbi has no jurisdictional interests or abilities in the 25th the amendment discussion. so he should have immediately recognized he had no roll and should not have been in that meeting. >> laura: terry bill barr sworn in last week as the new attorney general of the united states. former and now current. how does he proceed here? i mean it's almost like the entire fbied has to be dismantl and kind of reborn to restore its integrity. a lot of good people do work there. but it's so tainted now. this whole investigation was a fraud from the outset. and it is patently obvious to anyone who will take off their political partisan cap and just look at the facts. and i think andrew mccabe gave it away last night. he gave it away. i thought it was so obvious, they had nothing on trump exactly. i think the big problem confronting the new attorney

general is this, and a lot of people may not want to get into this discussion, as we have a political party, the democratic party turning harder and harder left, which in itself is a major national security risk, we also do not know exactly to this day exactly what happened in the fbi, whether there still existsh within the fbi these kinds of issues. perhaps people appointed by mccabe before he left. and we need to get to the bottom of all these things that are still out there in the universe and all these loose ends. people need to know who original straight all of this? it is absolutely just unbelievable that there is not somebody behind all of this, that pulled it together and ha compromised the fbi. we're not even getting into the fact we could have had anything from bribes to agreed to ego. all of these things are factors here. kevin and i never saw in the fbi anything like this. and in fact no

we prided ourselves as we left, pass along the fbi we found a little better to the next generation. this didn't happen this time. >> laura: rosenstein is out, bas has jeff rosen, really good guy. is it time to finally, just in the beginning of the show represent per cushions for bad behavior i have pend an investigation to the fbi director to launch investigations into james comey and andrew mccabe. these two included and setoff bi bias is to do a lot of damage to the fbi. >> laura: i know you don't do a lot of tv, thank you for joining us tonight. tennis legend martina navratilova is coming under huge fire for what she said about transgender women competing in women's events. is it a form of cheating that white hotf debate next. the white-hot debate? that

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♪ ♪ . >> laura: do transgender athletes have an unfair advantage when competing in women's sports? tennis hall of famer martina navratilova a gay rights advocate said this week of transgender women competing in female sports, quote, to put the

argument at its most basic, a man can decide to be a female, take hormones if required, win everything and perhaps earn a small fortune and then reverse his decision and go back to making babies if he so desires. it's insane and it's cheating. i'm happy to address a transgender woman in whatever form she prefers but i would not be happy to compete against her. her now, said and me go -- meg. cyd here are some of the tweets coming in about martina navratilova. huge tennis fan. martina navratilova has removed all doubt. she is absolutely transphone i can. another tweet, tans actual says we're devastated to discover martina is transphone i can. why aren't transwomen winning gold medals left right and

center? cyd isn't it tough for women to compete against men who transition into a new gender because their bodies are still different? you know, broader shoulders, stronger upper body et cetera, how is it fair? sure. thanks for talking about this. if you look across the history of transgender female athletes, not a single woman -- one of them has ever dominated their sports. lots of people like martina navratilova throw up the boogie men of men who are somehow going to seek fame and fortune in women's sports. martina knows perfectly well how under valued women's sports are in our culture. the boogie the man she throws up is totally ludicrous. no transwoman has ever dominated her sport, any sport. >> laura: it's kind of just starting to be fair renee richards was playing tennis in the 1970s. >> laura: i get it.

in connecticut where i'm from it's a real controversy involving track and field track and field. >> laura: and yar woo d dominates in beating everyone absolutely. they took state titles away from girls in that situation. i mean this is a ridiculous argument that women are not gonna suffer because men are competing in our sports. that's just ridiculous on its face. >> laura: but what about the argument of equality, that transathletes want to compete in the area they want to compete in and they make inequality, if you oppose them you're a horrible, awful, rotten person transwomen are men and women should not be forced to compete against men. this is basic fairness. i'm grateful for martina for speaking out. she's going to make a lot of space for more women and more athletes to speak out on this and say what we really believe, which is that women should not have to compete against men in

sports, it's very simple. >> laura: cyd you must be a big fan of martina, openly gay, advocate, been out there for years doing so much for women's sports, girls sports in high school. i was a pretty big athlete, i love that. so to call her transphone i can, i mean people just lose credibility when they start going after martina navratilova as some hater. come on listen i watched martina in the 80's and 90s, she's a hero for a lot of people, for women, for gay people. but on this issue she's wrong. men are not streaming into women's sports to cheat or steal medals away from women. transwomen are women. >> laura: no, no, no, your argument that is they're not doing it. it is a biological fact that internal organs of the men are bigger. right? the heart, the lungs. they have a larger capacity. that's not a hateful thing to say it's just a fact.

so because if people are dominating now, if the top thousand men in tennis wanted to get in to women's sports, and were transitioning or whatever, they could dominate the sport pretty well. i bet that's what martina knows because they played at the top top level this is an issue -- i think there's a real debate to be had, at elite level sports what the transpolicies should be. it's also a fact we don't talk about elite level sports many advantages change. >> laura: i don't think your shoulders. we're out of time. we should do a whole hour on this. thank you for joining us guys. last bite when we come back.

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