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all the good work the chicago police department did on this case. for all of the negativity it is just. they followed the evidence and didn't listen to the mainstream media. i agree. laura next. >> laura: thank you very much. good salute to the police and the border patrol. i am laura ingraham with theingeinge. -- the "the ingraham angle." we have every element of the jussie smollett case covered. the police lighting into him. we have reactions. plus could any lawyer on earth develop a second successful defense for smollett? alan dershowitz is here with
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thoughts. who are the media and the political arsonists who fanned the flames. we will name names later. first the false allure of victimology. that's the focus of tonight's "angle." >> ♪ >> laura: after seeing strong reactions to last night's show about how universities are breeding grounds for victimhood and manufactured anger, we thought it was important to expand on this theme tonight. given today's developments on a number of stories, this conversation we will have "the ingraham angle" tonight is more person than ever. the superintendent of the chicago police was outraged by what his department and the community endured because of jussie smollett's fabricated hate crime >> when we discovered the
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motive, it made everybody mad. we had to invest valuable resources. when y'all put things out there, into the universe that is not accurate facts, it causes us to have to chase all of that stuff down. those are resources and time spent that we will never get back. >> laura: that's all well and good, but poor jussie smollett. making a boat load of money per year. he was driven to this by his warped view of celebrity income inequality. >> this announcement today recognizes that the "empire" actor jussie smollett took advantage of the pain and anger of racism to promote his career and lie. the stunt was orchestrated by smollett because he was dissatisified with his salary. >> laura: what drove smollett a supporting actor on the fox show
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"empire" to think this victim narrative that he was assaulted by maga hat wearing thugs would give him a pay raise? there has been a long line of celebrity victims. people known only for their self-proclaimed victimhood. there was colin kaepernick who claimed he was victimized by nfl owners who were keeping him from playing just because of his acticism. >> believe in something even if it means sacrificing everything. don't ask if your dreams are crazy. ask if they are crazy enough. >> laura: he got a multi--million dollars nike contract and a hefty nfl settlement. so you see?
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victimhood pays. then of course there was christine blasey ford who turned on the drama for the kamala harris. -- cameras. even when her charges did not hold water she was invited by "sports illustrated" to be awards presenter. >> i am honored to speak about a woman i admire so much. rachael. i will always be inspired by you. >> laura: it's obvious for anyone capable of objective thought, if you are a liberal and you have an outrageous claim that implicates conservative or president trump, you will probably get national attention. you will get high-profile interviews. you will be on magazine covers. and of course, you get a lot of money. christine blasey ford made out like batman raking in over
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$800,000 through a go fund me account for her security. for a trump hating minor celebrity like jussie smollett, the lesson was learned. victim hood pays and often handso handsomely. crying racism would be his claim to fame and fortune. it beats playing second fiddle on a show whose ratings were going down. so he decided to write his own new role about a moral crusader warning the country about the dangerous of trump. the absurd details of this phoney attack confirm the worst
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of the left wingagainst trump. it looked like 1955 in birmingham. like a bad spike lee film. then when the fantasy came crashing down and police discovered the real truth, the pair of brothers buying supplies, the evidence was overwhelming that smollett committed fraud on america. so smollett's media cooperatives blamed conservatives. >> we are going to see conservative media play this up a bit. >> sean hannity will eat jussie smollett's lunch every second. tucker carlson will eat jussie smollett lunch and the president of the united states will eat his lunch. >> laura: unreal.
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heads they win and tails we lose. trump supporters are guilty no matter what. no matter how egregeous the fraud. today's democrats clinged to this narrative with a political death grip. how can they convince african-americans that they are going to do better, be better off and have their wages lifted up better or they will have the neighborhoods safer and cartels will be kept out of their neighborhood and gang members and ms-13 will be out of their communities. democrats will be better at trump creating jobs. they can't argue any of that because they have no substantive arguments. but they can and do sell victim hood. for that they had a lot of buyers.
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this is how kanye west put it in tweets. there was a time whether slavery was a trend and apparently that time is still upon us. now it's a menitality." then he wrote, self-victimization is a disease. you bet it is. because when any of us cling to victimhood, we giveaway our power. our power to solve problems and to better ourselves the old-fashioned way. it's through hard work. it's important to understand the left's strategy here. they will use fabricated tales to divert attention from other inconvenient truths. smollett crashed in and took the focus off the virginia governor wearing black face and fairfax was accused by two women of
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sexual abuse. and the media jumped on the story of the whacked out coastguard lieutenant that wanted to murder democrats. >> this is what donald trump is encourageing. >> words are cheap to him but they have costs elsewhere. >> we know the recent history of violence propelled in some part by the president's rhetoric. >> laura: this is so predictable, it's almost boring. notice when conservatives are truly victimized, physically attacked, which conservatives are targeted and shot for their political beliefs, like congressman steve scalise, the media has no time for that. nancy pelosi admonished republicans against laying blame on democrats for that attack. >> i don't want to go into the
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president of the united states. in terms of the language he has used. when you have all of the assaults made on hillary clinton for them to be so sanctimonuous. it doesn't use to be this way. somewhere in the '90s, it was a politics of personal destruction going after the clintons. >> laura: conservatives didn't rush to connect the vermont senator to the shooting. nor did they try to link smollett's criminal actions to his political heroes. barack obama and maxine waters. to link them would be unfair and stupid. many anti-trump partisans connect donald trump and his supporters to a story that was ludicrous from the get go. >> what he said happened to him
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fit in with a reality for a lot of people in this country since president trump was inaugurated. >> you think about what just happened to jussie smollett in something, unfortunately we have racism germinating from the white house. >> if you are in a position of power and you hate people and you want to cause suffering to them, what do you think will happen? people will be beaten on the streets. >> laura: the modern democratic movement has abandoned the optimism and idealism of john kennedy. now they pedal non-stop anger and resentment. when a decade, they have done from hope and change to hate and rage. when 2020 comes around, i doubt the message of you are a victim will be let's be victorious. that's the "angle." joining me now with reaction is
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gary mkt carthy. a former chicago police superintendent and candidate for chicago mayor and kevin graham the fraternal order of police president. kevin, i have been dying to talk to you. how does it make you feel? >> it's unfortunate that we expended a large amount of resources in the chicago police department to try and uncover a hoax that was played on both the people in the city of chicago and on the police department for mr. smollett's personal gain. that is certainly unfortunate. what it says is that in this society, we can go out and make outrageous claims and have everybody swoon over this.
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he owes the city of chicago an apology and the police department an apology. he will face his day in court. it won't be go well for him. >> laura: gary, this is what the current chicago police department superintendent said about the victims of actual crime. let's watch. >> i just wish that the families of gun violence in this city got this much attention. because that's who really deserves the amount of attention we are giving to this particular incident. >> laura: gary, a one-year-old sh shot, the day before idea. attrition in the police force. your thoughts on what he said there? >> well, first of all, i think we need to put this issue in perspective. this was a wreckless act that thankfully nobody got hurt from. you have to hundred the history of chicago and the red-lining in
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african-american neighbors and the anger that exists here and the racial polariation we have here. you put that together with the mcdonnelly incident. we have serious racial problems. this is akin to pouring gasoline on burned goals and hope they can't catch fire. he needs to be prosecuted. the city should be filing a lawsuit to recoup the money we lost with the expense that the police department put into it. those same detectives getting their butts kicked in the press did an exceptional job and need to be complimented. we have to do a better job for holding kim fox for not being on
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the ground. she is the state's attorney and rescued herself from this issue to go to the oscars. >> laura: wait a second. gary, did i hear what you said? that the state attorney -- i thought she had some personnel connection to people surrounding this case or familiarity which i thought was odd. she had been on the case for a couple of weeks. suddenly she was rescued. how do you know about the oscars? >> there are pictures all over the place of her at parties at the oscars even as we speak. the bottom line is, she had an obligation to be here. she was elected to do her job. when he comes up with the biggest political football she will have as an african-american prosecutor, she fumbles it and runs away. >> laura: you are saying there was no reason for her recusal?
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that was all just a ruse to go to the oscars? >> i believe it's a ruse. it's absolutely a ruse. she made a reference. >> laura: i can't establish that. i don't want to do what people did in the early part of this case. that's an interesting assumption. we will see whether that's true. what would justice require in this case? chicago pd superintendent had this suggestion. >> absolutely justice would be an apology to this city that he smeared. admitting what he did and then be man enough to offer what he should offer up in terms of all of the resources that were put into it. >> laura: well, kevin, smollett's legal team is not doing this. they are doubling down and
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saying we witnessed an organized law enforcement spectacle. the presumption of innocence was tram pelled on at the expense of mr smolt and: ain't no apology there. did the cops get due process? >> no, and we have witnessed that they have gone after the police on many occasions when it's unjust. here there is an overwhelming amount of evidence that he did exactly what he said he did. he has gone out and said oh i was jumped. frankly the evidence doesn't pan out that way. he need to fess up to what he did. he also needs to pay back the city and apologized because the
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detectives worked hard. >> laura: thank you very much. he is not doing that. it's the police at fault here. it's outrageous. a lot of bad actors in the smollett affair and some still. let's start with the politicians. they were the ugly attempts at pure political racial politicses from 2020 contenders. gillibrand in a tweet from 3 weeks back said it's the latest of too many hate crimes against people of color. kamala harris said this was was a modern-day lynching. when the started to unravel, booker and harris demanded that we wait for the facts. >> information is still coming out. >> okay. i will say this about that case.
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the facts are still unfolding. >> laura: then there are those who deleted their initial tweets. like the house intel chair schiff. he said we reject this act of hatred and bigotry. he lives in the cnn greenroom. the most powerful politician in the democratic party nancy pelosi wrote in a since deleted tweet. the racist homophobic attack on smollett is an affront to our humanity." the media will protect you from ever having to explain this. the media reveled in in entire story and then revealed to have
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just chased another hoax, they still reached the wrong conclusions. here's don lemon. >> in the court of public opinion, jussie smollett has lost. he lost the fight in the court of public opinion. >> laura: i don't know what that means. the work of the chicago police department is why he lost. they are actually defending their rush to judgment. this from van jones and keith. >> how could you believe this story from the beginning? >> this is a jackie robinson against homophobic in the back community and a beloved icon. >> laura: jackie robinson? what. many other bad actors too numerous to name. the smollett case happened just one week after the covington
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catholic smear fell apart. if they could not learn their lessons in that moment, what chance do they have for the next hoax? . coming up the prosecutor laid out the case against smollett. how can he build a defense? alan dershowitz with the answer to that next. ♪ turn up your swagger game with one a day gummies. one serving... ...once a day... ...with nutrients that support 6 vital functions... ...and one healthy you. that's the power of one a day. (woman) too late for lunch.o minutes. starkist saves the day. sweet and spicy tuna in a pouch! smart choice, charlie. (charlie) no drain, no pain. just tear, eat... and go! try all of my tuna, salmon and chicken pouches.
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making falls reports. remember tawana brawley the people who defended her went free and went on to political and media careers. there are other instances. we have to presume everybody innocent. if the facts are as the police say they are, if payments were made and a plan was hatched to put a rope around the neck and a police report was filed, thane then we have the potential for a serious crime. i am surprised they charged him only with disturbing the peace. that doesn't sound like this is what happened here. >> laura: even as a defense attorney, i was a criminal defense attorney too, should this matter here? to me given the toxicity of the charges and the heat that is on chicago and the race relations,
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we heard two well respected people from the police department. this is hot there. to say just probation and it's not a big deal. that seems ridiculous. >> i agree. we have to look at the context and the pressures on the city and in the end, i do think a case like this, if the evidence is overwhelming as it looks like it is, there will be some kind of a plea bargain. he will admit it and apologized and do community service. i agree. i think people who make false reports ought to go to jail. in the bible if you falsely accused someone, you get the penalty the person would have gotten had the accusation been true. if these people attacked him in this racist way and put a noose
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around his neck, they would have gotten years in jail. if you follow the bible, this guy ought to get the same penalty that he falsely accused other people of getting. we don't know enough about the case. were these people going to take the rap or go to jail? >> laura: apparently $3500 is not enough. jussie smollett has to pay more. they will sing like cannaries and they get an extra $500. the defense attorneys are saying he is being framed and it's unfair. mark geragos joined the team. he was on cnn and he is tipping their hand on the defense. your friend branson from l.a. chimes in. >> somebody tweeted yesterday or
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the day before and it made sense. this is a police department that has had some issues. >> i think there are issues with the chicago police department. as the general proposition, whether they treated people of color fairly. whether or not they are capable of doing an investigation without any difficult issues arising. >> laura: now it's the chicago police department is corrupt. so jussie smollett is innocent. >> it's more than corrupt. the suggestion is they are racists. i don't know how that cuts. look, i never condemn a defense attorney for trying to be creative and come up with any plausible defense. that's what the 6th amendment to the constitution is about. i want to hear all of the facts before i come to a conclusion. >> laura: thank you very much. you heard me talk on the "angle" about how the democrats are
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clinging to this victim hood narrative. how did that impact the african-american community and the community at large? joining me now can bruce, the executive director of the national diversity coalition for crump and henry davis founder of the conservative urban project in d.c. for the celebration of black history month. bruce, let's start with you. this is wild. we have jussie smollett makes $125,000 and the police make $48,000. bruce, that's not enough money. get guys to attack. >> you this plays into the same old thing. we talked about this in the greenroom. how the left always tries to portray black folks like us to intimidate us. this is the biggest voter suppression in the land of the
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left. this is another example. don't go over there. they are bad people. the disheartening part is we had issues in the past. we have come a long way. the president tonight, oh my god, he was so on fire! president trump, you were killing it tonight. he was so excited. african-american history month. he was celebrated. packed jam room. screaming and loud. he was so happy about the lowest black unemployment and all of these great initiatives and here we go. jussie smollett. >> laura: isn't that why they are selling this you are oppressed, you are a victim. watch out for the guys with the red hat. they are coming for you. it's the worst kind of scare tactic. they are doing it because things are getting better. >> i don't understand why so many people hate black people or people that look like me, hate
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this president. this man has done more than any other president has done for people who look like me and him than ever. i wear the maga hat very far i go and walk around saint with go trump or cry t-shirt on. jussie smollett needs to sit down somewhere in his cell. get some people putting money on his book. [laughing]. >> laura: what is going on here? i have to share something with you. you are big elizabeth warren fans. she changed the subject away from jussie smollett of how the democrats will help the african-american community something trump apparently won't do. let's watch. >> it's a full screen. she said we must convert the dark history of slavery that has
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had many consequences. undermining the ability of black families to build wealth: she is talking about desperation. write a check. >> she is talking about the democrats. that's what the democrats are doing. that's why we as people that look like me and him are in the position that we are in is because of the democrats. i am trying to tell you right now, laura, donald trump is the most pro-and this is a quote from my friend pastor darryl scott, and i will be working with him and kareem. >> laura: you got that out fast. >> donald trump is the most pro-black president we have ever seen in our lifetime. >> laura: they are petrified of donald trump. taking even 5% of the black vote
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away. kanye west said get off the plantation. >> here we go again. voter suppression. throw the boogeyman in the room and intimidate us. at the end of the day president trump will be the champion for black america. i am a 27 year business owner in atlanta. there are many of us across the country that want this opportunity. this president is the best president in history! in history! >> laura: victimwood. what do you tell the african-american kid watching? maybe a 20-year-old watching. when they say you are a victim what do you say? >> that's a lie. >> i ditto that. >> the numbers don't lie. don't get caught up on the emotions. for black americans. >> laura: what about the s-hole
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country comments? >> that's emotion. that doesn't pay bills. it just keeps this junk going. >> president trump ain't scared. he got that -- >> laura: i need one of those shirts. >> [laughing]. >> laura: i am hanging out with them after the show. >> right on, laura! >> [laughing]. >> laura: i want to just do a show with you. gentlemen, thank you. >> thanks baby. >> laura: that doesn't bother me when he says baby. bring it. violence on college campuses. victimhood. does it begin in academia? that's next.
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still a victim. where does this cry for attention come from. andy summed it up in the national review writing because of the mainstreaming of academ's victimhood culture we place more value on being a victim than being kind. victim groups are coveted and believed. on college campuses back in march 2016, candidate donald trump had to cancel a rally at the university of illinois because of violent protests. and a professor was injured in a melee. and a turning point, a recruit was attacked.
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we don't know what happened before this video but it doesn't look good. >> jesus christ! >> what? >> [bleep]. >> [bleep]. >> [bleep]. >> [bleep], [bleep]. >> oh! >> [bleep]. >> laura: you can hear that. we reached out to the university and police are investigating the incident. joining me now is charlie founder and president of the group that was attacked and author of campus battlefield and also an activist angelo. charlie, how often do these attacks happen against conservative? >> far too often and this was one of the brutal ones recently. the narrative in the media before the fax came out with the smollett case, he is a victim and we can't question it. this is a real victim hood.
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a student assaulted in the public square because he was recruiting for conservative values at berkeley the origin birth place of the free speech movement 40 years ago. but college campuses are not safe places for conservatives. >> laura: there is a picture of him in the middle. how have they not found him yet? anyone knows this guy call the authorities? the university the chancellor said this is not acceptable. donald trump jr. said when a liberal like jussie smollett faces an attack. he gets a tsunami of attention. when a conservative student is punched in the face it barely makes a ripple.
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>> when the first came out with jussie smollett our first imppression was it was a legitimate hate crime. since president trump took off hate crimes rose 17%. that's from the fbi. where mr. smollett fabricated this incident. >> laura: i believe it's because more agencies are now reporting hate crimes. now you have more input. before those agencies were not reporting hate crimes. any hate crime is a problem. we are talking about the disparate coverage. american university, george washington university, georgetown, all great schools in this area. a conservative wearing a make america great hat on those campuses would be kind of risking. that's a fact. i know a lot of great kids who go to carnality.
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-- georgetown. they would be risking it? >> i don't think that's true. >> laura: oh, come on! i live near it. good kids. >> we have an incident where a student came through our cafeteria wearing a confederate flag hoodie. no threats of follows. some students asked security if they could do something about it. >> this video which is horrifying if the attacker was making a make america great hat, that's all we would be talking about. >> laura: imagine if jussie smollett was hit in the face by someone who was a conservative kid, a college republican. angelo, you are a smart guy. i am trying to get angelo to be a conservative. i will win him over. he is too fun and smart. you know there is a double standard out there.
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you can't be saying college campuses are balanced. >> the double standard, the incident with jussie smollett when we believed it was an actual incident. you are talking about an attack against a marginalized group. >> laura: did you believe it? who the heck walks there at 2 a.m.? it was ludicrous. people of color said i didn't believe that for a second. >> the toxic culture is from the president. his dark vision from america. >> laura: he was having a great time today. at black history month. over-subscribed. people could not get in because it was overpacked. i think democrats want to hold on to this domination of one
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group. i think their time sup. i think people are thinking for themselves. that's a good thing. >> i have been doing this for 6 years. visited hundreds of campuses. it's only liberals that try to kick me off campus. we never disinvite leftist speakers. they are afraid of other ideas. >> laura: angelo, i want you back. you can be whatever you want to be. up next judge laura takes the bench. a group filed a lawsuit in chicago that could jeopardize construction of barack obama's presidential center. my gavel next. we know losing a lure means you took a chance. we know nothing stirs curiosity like what might be around the next bend. we know the great outdoors. we love the great outdoors.
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>> ♪ >> laura: it's time for the arbiter. where 2 attorneys argue a case and i judge laura make the final ruling. joining me are andrew and robin. here are the rules. each attorney will have 30 seconds to layout their case followed by a rebuttal. you both get to rebut the other. if the judge needs more information, each will have an additional 30 seconds to explain. i will ask questions.
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i will make my ruling. it cannot be appealed. on the dockett the fight for former president obama's presidential library. a judge allowed a lawsuit to go forward. if successful it would prohibit exhibit to be built near lake michigan. andrew you are a chicago based attorney. 30 second for your opening. the court is in session. andrew. >> it's real simple. public land is for public purposes. we can't have a $500 million vanity project. even for a former president and take land from the public and give it to a private person. we just can't do it. it's a bad division. -- decision. what would people say when president trump wanted 20 acres in central park and put his presidential library on it.
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everybody would they that's insane. >> laura: robin? just made it under the wire, andrew. >> whether you agree with obama's politics or not, the law is clear. the city has the right to use public lands for whatever it wants including for the obama presidential center. there hasn't been -- this is obviously in the public good. the people of chicago are excited about it. as an african-american and a graduate of the university of chicago law school this is a good decision and something that will uplift the people of chicago including many, many folks. >> laura: my affinity and love for the university of chicago law school aside, andrew gets to rebutt you. >> that's silly. nobody is saying that president obama should not get the land. it should not be parkland. there are 160,000 acres of land in chicago.
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1% are public land. put him on the 99%. >> laura: but this was transferred. there was land that was transferred to the city. >> $100 for 99 years. that's a classic chicago sweetheart deal. improper and could not go through. >> laura: this is from the chicago sun "times." a small circle of obama associates at city hall and the university of chicago controlled the process of where and how the center is to be built. it will eat up much more parkland at a cost that is unclear. the mayor has done his best to lock in park district support for years to come. long after he leaves office in may. sound like a sweetheart inside deal.
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how is this not an inside job? >> you can't believe this. this has been open to pub hearings and decided by the district and the city. there is no due process issue here. this is something the public has an opportunity to pine on and has been approved. it's not a taking. this will remain parklands that belong to the city. it will be a fixed term agreement and the obama presidential center will use that land. >> laura: every time the obamas are involved in a big financial thing, there is some inside deal or inside job. love the university of chicago. love the area. i think a lot of people love this project. they just don't want it here. it's subverting the law going through to the city instead of the normal process. that's the way you got around the legal issues.
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that's given people pause. >> that's it. nobody has a problem with this project here in chicago. when you are selling this sort of land for $100 over a 99 year period. it's ridiculous. >> laura: time for a ruling. i am ruling for andrew. it has nothing to do with politics. it's the process that seems corrupt from the core to me. i don't like it. it stinks to high heaven. stay there. some celebrities still defending jussie smollett. tonight's last bite has the answers next. about 50% of people with evesevere asthma k? have too many cells called eosinophils in their lungs. eosinophils are a key cause of severe asthma. fasenra is designed to target and remove these cells. fasenra is an add-on injection for people 12 and up with asthma driven by eosinophils.
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truly good person. >> laura: best known as the original lead in dream girls on broadway, the democratic apparatus have circled the wagon until smollett is thought of a victim. >> shannon: his attorneys are speaking out tonight, we'll have more on that. thank you so much. we begin with a fox news alert, tonight empire star jesse's smollett faces jail time. smollett returns to the set of empire tonight where he reportedly earns $100,000 an episode but police say he staged a hoax about a bigoted attack because he was unhappy about his salary. uc berkeley's police want the public's health tracking down a
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