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foreign trip to meet with foreign collator kim jong un in vietnam next week and that is all the time we have this week and stay tuned. thank you for watching and we will see you monday from hanoi vietnam. thank you for watching us. ♪ >> laura: hey, everyone this is "the ingraham angle" and jussie smollett apologist are now excusing his bad behavior. you knew that was going to happen but i guess x don't matter as long as you are morally right, i mean left. more on that in a moment but plus we countdown the most outrageous moments from the media, mulling hemingway will be here to dissect that for us. individual i.c.e. agents are being sued by illegal aliens and liberal advocacy groups. you cannot make this up. just for doing their jobs. a former agent is here to sound off and boy is he mad.
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but first rage versus results. the great democrat freak out. that is the focus of tonight's angle. >> being a liberal means never to say you are sorry. an overstatement, may be. but given some of the more recent politically required acts of vandalism and violence and defamation and libel, will serve them to the truth or not. ten years ago, five years ago, it would have been unthinkable that major political media figures would bend over backwards to excuse criminal behavior because they agreed with the perpetrators political motivation. yet in this age of rage, this happens all too frequently. >> didn't jussie complete the two? didn't he paint maga supporters as these racists and home up phobic people? >> i have to disagree with you. >> michelle, i have to
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respectfully disagree and i think maga painted themselves as that. >> laura: okay, on the jussie smollett case all at once depressing and enlightening. the most depressing because so many seem positively giddy, thrilled that a hate crime like that would have happened. finally, they could draw a direct line from the support for trump to support for almost a lynching. you had a news come a racial anti-gay slur. it was story line that pushed all the right anti-trump buttons. >> black and, now the victim of a hate is crime. slurs and may be homophobic slurs being used, you can see how serious this crime is right now. >> absolutely despicable. this is america in 2019. >> laura: now even when the entire thing was it x-rayed, they remained undaunted.
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>> interesting when you use bigotry, lying, and young, black kid, indicted. and if white, president. i think there is enough monsters out there for real we don't have to make it up. white supremacist has never been at a historical high. >> laura: and i will focus on that last line for just a minute. white supremacy in 2019 is worse than it was let's say 1963 in birmingham, alabama? water cannons, dogs released on civil rights marchers and when children blown up in churches? trump hating comedians, undeterred by actual facts are suddenly aggressively unfunny. comedian billy eichler saying, if it turns out the attack was staged that is disgusting. but don't give me b.s. about maga supporters.
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falsely execute -- accused of a crime still a bunch of white supremacist. they poisoned the soul of our country and of the world and the crimes against humanity will be felt long after we have forgotten about jussie smollett. prize against humanity? okay, like what policies that grow the economy and job growth across the board including for african-americans? that crime against humanity? or the crime against humanity creating opportunities and some of our most debilitated communities? or is it the crime of criminal justice reform that is a crime against humanity? do you see what i'm saying? patently ridiculous. but this is all enlightening, is it not? this is what is really happening. trumps policies are actually working. we see it all around us. the meal or report looks like it's going to be a dud and
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liberal heroes are self combusting before our very eyes so the democrat project risk brand total freak out mode. let's look back. the kavanaugh plays a ford flamed out in indigenous 2020 hopeful was knocked off her high horse. virginia democrat leaders are tangled up black face and me scandals. and now with smollett, the dream of the trumpet inspired a hate crime has also fizzled. so now, we are back to donald trump being hitler, hope all and stolen all in one, that is the best they have. and the requisite, if jesse did it and this is wrong, well, they quickly then revert to the tired old narrative, today minority should live in fear. comedian tweeting, what jussie smollett is accused of his
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despicable, however, don't forget that we believe he was the victim of such horrendous hate crime because it is the type of thing that happens way too often, especially into trump era. he may have taken advantage of a very realistic fear. and the queen of racial fearmongering mad maxine waters freely admits she believes jussie's ridiculous story because his views checked all the liberal boxes. >> he is a friend. he was at my office. we marched in a pride parade together. he introduced me up black girls rock. and so, i believed him when i heard about it. >> laura: welcome if congressman waters wanted to learn something, she might try to engage with black americans who see this all very. they are not looking to blame for trump or conservatives for all their wills passed her presence. what they are looking for are
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real solutions and real hope. every citizen alive today and generations unborn are forever in debt of the brave souls whose stared down injustice and champions the internal cause of civil rights. [applause] >> and by the way as you've been hearing me say, african-american unemployment is at an all-time low, historic -- [cheers and applause] >> laura: for seamless and at the white house is part of what inspires the ongoing democrat freak out. the real possibility that president trump black history month celebration and oversubscribed more than 300 people, people couldn't get in. that may be, just maybe, donald trump could peel off 5%, maybe even 10% more of the black vote in 2020. that is unnerving to the left. but there is a new movement emerging. >> i really don't even
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understand why so many people hate black people. people that look like me and him. hate this president. because this man has done more than any other president has done for people that look like me and him. >> i always say don't get caught up in the emotions. >> laura: how about the country's comment, you know, well, it's always -- >> it is emotional and i don't pay the bills. i don't do anything except keep this junk going. in black america. >> laura: the democrats with the fearmongering, it will only go so far, but if they keep it up, emotionally worn out african-american voters may do what democrats fear most:tuned them out and focus on the record of accomplishment in the community. and that is "the angle." joining me with reaction to comen at the white house event with president trump last night pastor mark burns and darrell scott come along with former white house press secretary and
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fox news contributor, pastor burns come i will start with you, the narrative in the wake of this case is already set, right, he may have lied but trump is still a racist. so your reaction to the event this past week and the fact that the president got virtually no coverage of what by all accounts was an amazing event last night. >> mark: it was absolutely an amazing event and already created a narrative of racism and division. and it will stay there. listen i said it and i will say it on your show. it is people like jussie smollett is the reason why, one of the reasons why our relations so racially divided and what the president has done for more black americans than any other president in the history of the presidency. people like jussie smollett and the left because that is the only thing they can say is to keep black people on their side is to keep using fear, racism,
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and division. now, they tried to make jussie the victim when in reality, you know, he belongs in jail. he is the reason why blacks are hating whites and whites are hitting blacks. the reality, we have a sitting president just like at the white house yesterday, doing way more for black americans and people of color in the history of the presidency of the united states of america. it is foolish. it is preposterous and asked to quit. matter-of-fact, black people are getting tired of hearing the same old racism. >> laura: i want to go to to pastor scott because we have to get you on here. i think they are freaking out. the democrats. because look around you. these policies are working. people might not like every tweeter this comment or that, at the past two and half, three years but the policies, pastor or working. and it is stunning.
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and people don't want to take yes for an answer because of the politics factor. >> darrell: i think this country is more politically divided than racially divided, but the political divide is hiding behind the left, the raised for this political divide. the truth of the matter, the left has not had anything to be outraged over in a long time. and so, you know, they can't get outraged over justice reform or prison reform. they can't get outraged over low unemployment and historic levels of low employment. they can't get outraged on opportunities and urban revitalization. so they have to dig up something old or try to manufacture something new. because they need outraged to fuel their base that they can try to unseat this president. they are even outraged over immunity that hasn't even come out yet. they are mad about it. they are ready to indict mueller now because mueller is not siding with them.
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it is crazy. >> laura: that is funny, that is a good one. what can the white house do to get this message out to a wider public? i was watching the raw feed of this event, and it was oversubscribed. the first year it was a little harder to get impeached but now oversubscribed and people are seeing the fruits of what trumps economic policies are actually accomplishing for all americans, especially the most underprivileged in the blue-collar middle class. so what can the white house do? >> the white house is already doing it and doing it right. when the president says african-american unemployment is at a historic local hispanic employment at a historic low, they were delivering a message people want to hear because it's relevant to their lives. the more he surrounds themselves with black audiences, talks to people and invites people in as inclusive, the more he has a chance to get that message really reverberated. >> laura: but the media doesn't want to say it.
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>> that is okay. >> laura: he had a huge crowd last night. >> we always know that about the media and the word will get around. there is another way around the media today. you nailed it when you set the democrats do better with flex. republicans typically lose the black vote 90-10. donald trump loses 85-15 or 80-20 do you realize that likely will shut the democrats out of the white house permanently if republicans can make those kind of inroads historically overwhelmingly, democratic black community? huge inroads. and will strengthen the economy, trump can do it. more events, more events, more events. >> laura: more outrage even if threatened against going into the areas like chicago during the campaign. all right, pastor burns and all of you, because no one else has played this come i want to play more from what happened last night's black history month celebration of the white house, especially some of the more, pointing out moments, powerful
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moments that came from the african-american some pointers with president trump's policies watch. >> i just want to thank the president and everybody that worked so hard, jerry, working so hard on this prison reform. first step back. because if it wasn't for them, i wouldn't be standing before you all today. [applause] >> with my daughter and my granddaughter. i would want to thank god and also president trump you are turning the tables over. in attacking the status quo. and that is hostile to the interest of poor people. into giving low-income people an opportunity to help themselves. that is all they want. they won an opportunity to achieve. >> laura: pastor burns come i was watching this and pastor scott was there as well.
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i got teared up, i mean, it was beautiful. and i know people will say, you just like trump. no, no, that was a beautiful moment in a time where race relations putting up a graphic my race relations are going in the wrong direction here. i want to show everybody this. blacks and whites, do you think somewhat good and in 2013 blacks said 66%. thought they were very good. okay? by 2016 end up obama's turn, down to 49% and 2018 down to 40%. he's doing better among whites and racial really, but who is to blame for this pastor burns? >> mark: well, president trump but the fact of the matter president trump has done absolutely amazing by people of color, african-americans in this nation. president trump has helped hbcus, president trump has created opportunities. president trump is putting money
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into most geographical urban areas that is helping create jobs for black people in this country. president trump is creating the first affect. president trump is overly, overly showing that he is going to be and is the most supportive president of black americans in this country. he said it from day one, back in 2015, he would be the most supportive, most active most or -- >> laura: he said what do you have to lose, remember that? what do you have to lose? >> mark: what he said to me, he looked at me and said, what do you think? you know. what do you have to lose? but me being a pastor, i don't want to say age, but what do you got to lose, right? [laughter] >> laura: for pastor scott and want to read from the tribune because as the smollett story collapsed in so many hate crimes that are originally thought to be true. then they turn out not to be true not that there aren't hate
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crimes because there are and they should be prosecuted by the jussie smollett case started collapsing. this is what the columnist for the "chicago tribune." just because one person lied about a racist and homophobic incident does not let bigots off of the hook. there are real bigots here and angry trump supporters contend although they help to put so-called big it in sheets and the white house but they insist being unfairly blamed for forcing america down treacherous and agonizing road of intolerance. so it is kind of like heads they win, tails we lose. >> darrell: you know what where does this angry trump supporter -- >> laura: i'm in a great mood. >> darrell: we are not angry, we are having rallies. it is a good time for trump supporters. the left is the angry crowd. the left ones are rioting, writing throughout 2016 campaign. they are the ones resisting, opposition and maxine waters,
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she is angry. everybody is so angry. they need to take a chill pill and sit back and enjoy the ride. this president, listen come as far as black history is concerned, he is not just celebrating black history but president trump is making black history. and the community know at the president has done. i have lived through 12 presidents. i was born during eisenhower administration and i will say it again, he's the most pro-black instead of proactive instead of reactive he's the most pro-black president, proactive president towards the black community in my lifetime. >> laura: wow, i hope every young african-american in this country of course it doesn't matter if you are young, i guess, here is what we are talking about tonight. and this makes me so happy. i said this last night. the democrats seem to have a dark and ominous, pessimistic view of the world right now. the country is a racist country, and anti-immigrants from all very negative.
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trump is like, i am impatient for results and i want this to get better and better. i find the optimism is on his side. the processes is on the other side. is that accurate? do you agree and that i have to ask you something about mueller but quickly on that. >> 100% and if you want proof joe biden said in 2012 race when republicans want to put you all back and chains he said to an african-american group. think about that, desperate to win and if anybody disagrees with their ideology is proslavery. that is with the senior vice president good. remember, lawyer, george w. bush they accused of being a racist and they accused romney, trump and whoever follows trump. it is their formula, playbook even if no facts behind. >> laura: view a report not out next week and news broke late today, maybe the week after. have eyes to the administration going over to vietnam, the big summit but what should they say?
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>> i'm surprised everybody is trying to say this will show there is no collusion. that it is better for trump than people thought. i never seen going into something like this you play up your expectations but that is what they are doing. i don't think anybody knows what will be in that report so my advice is to keep your mouth shut your your powder dry and be ready. >> laura: gentlemen, thank you so much, fantastic as always, and who was the biggest media offenders over the past few days? a long list, hemingway and lauren react to the biggest low life of the week. it is going to be fun. ♪ turn up your swagger game with one a day gummies. one serving... ...once a day... ...with nutrients that support 6 vital functions... ...and one healthy you. that's the power of one a day.
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you should be stupid for believing him or sometimes you jump to conclusion, which is not what is happening. i feel bad for the people who did not go to that empathy and thinks this is a game and floating loading today. they have something fundamentally wrong with them. >> laura: i would talk to mike i just want to point out, mollie this was after he was charged. >> mollie: you should absolutely be empathetic towards victims. but reporters have obligation to be skeptical and the old adage if your mother says she loves shoot my check it out. in this case, there were many reasons why the story should not have been bullied from the outset and no evidence to support it. so this is just journalism. >> laura: where you amazed how quickly the response became? >> yes, if what he did he did is despicable but trump people are racist are racist anyways. were you surprised how quickly they reverted back to trump supporters are no?
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>> not in the least and frankly i think that is one of the reasons behind what happened in the first place, i mean, if you are going to do a phony crime, you could pick any number of people that would ask you specifically trump supporters were picked. i would suggest that they were picked because he knew the reaction from the meeting would be exactly what it was. they would believe him instantaneously and blamed the president himself and blame his supporters. and i think there are a lot of people out there utterly sick of this after this, after the covington situation, after the bos feed story. over and over and over again the same old thing and i can tell you people out there, gave the talk last night and i mentioned this lawsuit for the covington attorney there for nick sandmann. all of a sudden, "the washington post" for $250 million in the entire audience spontaneously burst into a thunderous applause. they have had it to the max. >> laura: yeah, litigation
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does not die in the darkness apparently. here is the next example, guys. zach stafford the editor and chief of the etiquette, a publication yesterday suggesting that smollett did not make this up but it was the police who framed him. >> do have a police department not as cooperative, do not give information to openly light and miss hold -- to openly support an election, a lot of this is wait, what is going on here? >> laura: a lot of activists. some say, some say donald trump apparently is pulling all the strings. >> mollie: the thing is they go back and forth whether to trust cops or not. it is actually true he has not been charged but this is something that you don't see skepticism when it is about the fbi investigating anyone who has anything to do with the trump campaign. there is just a complete fealty to the fbi in that case, but --
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>> laura: jeff, i'm watching this, do they actually understand just how to be charitable silly they look? i mean, you look silly. the guy had two nigerian brothers bogging rope and buying red hats and buying gloves on camera, okay and apparently, wr, that's brilliant, writing a check. and no questioning the cops forced them to buy the stuff at the local hardware store, craziness. >> jeffrey: that is right, it is crazy. and i have come to the conclusion there is a lot of people that are crazy. but one of the serious things here, laura, the most angry voice about all of this yesterday was the police commissioner, police superintendent eddie johnson in chicago who is an african-american. he was really angry. and then they are now going to try to say what, he is trying to
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cover something up or a secret trump supporter? this is nonsense. this is nonsense on stilts. i thought, frankly, the police superintendent gave a superb statement just in general about all of this kind of thing and how damaging it it has been. >> laura: real victims of crime. and the focus should be on the real victims of crime. not on fake crime which are completely choreographed for political purposes or career purposes. all right, let's mov move on toe night. stephen colbert finally, finally hold out smollett last night. let's watch. >> this story unfolds race, sexuality, politics and violent so i need to tread lightly here and simply say, what a belief. cast himself as a fake national symbol for a real racial and political divide. >> laura: mollie, somehow he failed to address his gift, actress ellen page comment earlier this month accusing trump and vice president pans of
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inciting violence against people. >> it is so interesting to me -- >> laura: where is ellen page by the way has even spoken out? >> she said it is deplorable. >> mollie: this story ran because of who we were told were the aggressors. maga hat, and a guy targeting him because he was black and. in the story falls apart and we don't have those details. and that significance was of him saying this is who attacked him. it is an important part of the story and why the story was such a big deal in addition to being a celebrity and to ignore that part of the story as colbert is an appropriate. >> laura: jeffrey, really quick, the idea of a noose around someone's neck boy, that can take us back to the precivil rights south and horrific acts of violence being committed against black americans. you are a young kid and you see a guy celebrity with a noose around his neck. what does that make you feel?
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think about what that does to the young minds of the people in this country? that struck me last night especially. >> jeffrey: exactly. it is terribly ugly. and as someone who is old enough to remember this in real time and remember the civil rights and the fire hoses and the police dogs, this was a terrible, terrible thing. the symbolism of that was just disgusting. and it ought to make people furious. stephen colbert have to have ellen page on the show and apologize. >> laura: jeff, she is anti-trump and i don't think she will apologized. i would be shocked if she did. jeff emily, thanks up next at least one illegal alien with the help of advocacy groups has filed a lawsuit. individual federal immigration officers treatment during a raid, poor baby and the agents come over they doing their job? retired ice special agent has something to say. don't miss it my experience with usaa
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>> laura: live from america's new headquarters i'm anita vogel. another thousand u.s. troops headed to the southern border according to's two senior officials and these troops will join 5,000 active-duty troops already sent to the border and set to arrive march 1st. the pentagon also wants to use military construction funds to build the presidents border wall on the border. officials saying reallocating the money would not require congressional approval. >> in legal trouble once again come a grand jury indictment unsealed today charging with ten counts of aggravated sexual abuse and three of the four victims under age when the alleged crimes took place. kelly will be tried in the same chicago courthouse where he the accusations of child pornography 11 years ago. if convicted, he could face up to 70 years in prison. i'm anita vogel and back to "the
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ingraham angle." >> laura: immigration advocacy groups have filed a federal lawsuit on behalf of more than 100 workers detained during a raid at a tennessee meat packing plant last year. at least one of the plaintiffs is illegal but many suspect as well. and nine federal officials and gets this, 30 unnamed i.c.e. agents claiming that workers were targeted saying in part "the officer's goal that day was far more extensive than what the search warrant. they plan to detain and arrest every worker and the plaintiff who was were appeared to be latino." 20 me they retired special agent of ice, quad, explain for the audience who might find this disturbing, these allegations, why in your view this raid was not outside standard operating
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procedures? >> quad: factually it wasn't. this is another tactic from the left to resist the immigration enforcement of the trump administration. and this is a frivolous lawsuit the purpose of which is to deter any individual i.c.e. agents from doing their jobs and i say that because you will notice they are being sued individual capacity. the government, they are being sued in individual capacities and there were things done very unorthodox in relation to this like researching home addresses and serving them with lawsuits at their home addresses. an intimidation tactics, but normally an agent get sued and served upon government counsel and government office. >> laura: so it is intimidating, quad, i understand intimidating people from becoming i.c.e. agents in the
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first place? >> claude: actual i.c.e. agents from doing their jobs, for arresting illegal immigrants. >> laura: they make $60,000 a year about, $60,000, that is not nothing but it's okay. putting their lives at risk. and now they are calling racist, sexist, being unfair. i think a lot of people would be thinking of themselves that they would do something else. >> claude: right, exactly and here is the other part. so the search warrant was not dependent i.c.e. agent but it was an irs special agent. the investigation was predicated upon suspicious activity reports. it was a financial investigation. now, the motivation, part of the financial scheme and pulled the employment of illegal alien so of course, i.c.e. agent and ice involved but anticipated the possibility they would encounter illegal aliens at the plant which is why ice was involved. and of course, they are
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suspicions were proven correct but they were executing criminal federal search warrant signed by a federal judge and i don't care if they are doing search warrants for drugs, for financial violations, whatever, use secure the location. you detain all occupants of the location. >> laura: this is how it works. >> claude: in doing so they deter and guess what these people are here illegally. >> laura: obama never did any of this, by the way. obama never did any of this. >> claude: obama did not do these but they were ten under the obama administration with the exception that ice given specific instructions but try not to arrest as many illegal aliens or to arrest illegal aliens. >> laura: you people, mean, mean, mean, thanks for the analysis they are. attorneys say it is the first lawsuit filed against larger scale work site that was conducted by the trump administration, but i don't
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remember, again, anger by the same advocacy groups for many of the obama era raid. when obama took office, ice rates from 503 to 2008 to more than 8,000 in 2009. you tell me that these lawsuits are not politically motivated? arthur, onto immigration studies and immigration, as just explain, this is not illegal immigration rate by authorized according to the facts that they had mostly like the financial crimes involved. this kind of what you do. we see problems on site and we have to see what's going on. >> how they do it, latinos, immigrants and their commit legal immigrants and people with papers and they are. why were they not considered -- way were they speaking spanish,
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if victims of any kind of a boot. but they raided the place, they put them in handcuffs, push them sold them and glacial -- racial slurs so why do we do it this way? >> laura: so some of the concerns would be that there is a lot of -- this is an active factory processing center, lots and lots of knives and implements. i'm sure if they are right about all the stops. i'm sure i don't carry out these rates but you don't give them a subscription of a magazine and what else would you like a blanket? >> gunther: but this is the situation where i think the facts are disputed. and in san francisco for the state of california. this is completely from what has been led completely the opposite way that these auditors carried out. you have reasonable suspicion to stop somebody. you actually need a confection
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or strong evidence to actually make an arrest of illegal alien edge of the united states and quite frankly i find the facts to be a little bit concerning and i don't necessarily believe the facts. it will come out in court but the other thing is, there is plainly officer security issue for the reasons that you stated. this is a meat packing plant that got cited for a number of violations, i believe they are after. so quite frankly anything could have happened. they had to control the situation and do their jobs. >> laura: what do you you do in a situation like this? you have a lot of latino workers. you probably have some non-latino workers. what do you do? you can see on the surface the more you just pulling, questioning latino guys over here, gals or whatever they may be where questioning all people and stopping all people? that will be key to this case because otherwise it will look like but, profiling, illegal because you are latino which is not cool, that is not a cool thing. >> gunther: i agree with that. why not come in like normal
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people? every time they raid a place, has to be a valid situation. why can't you come in as a person, if ask everybody for their names, documents and identification but never a case to rate a place where latinos and you find guns. latinos go out the door, guns blazing. that doesn't happen. there is always a peaceful situation from a peaceful arrest. whatever time you come in, violent. >> laura: i hear what you are saying, but i think it is also the case we want everything to be this perfect deal, a perfect situation where everybody will be a good actor and there will be no problems. but if you are one of those offers going into one of these plants, you probably have seen a lot in your take him i would imagine. i'm trying to put myself in their shoes. i think we should blame the employers, frankly, here. neither side should be the law of the land and if you violate either, sanctions should be so onerous on you that you either shut down for a while or, you
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know, you are shut down. that is where it should be. the workers, you have to be able to work but the owners of these business are unscrupulous completely. >> art: none of these audits, these rates if you want to call them would be necessary if we had e-verify, e-verify a web system that in real time can identify the employment. >> laura: why don't we, when i say we why doesn't the chamber of commerce want e-verify? >> art: because they want the workers. >> laura: they want cheap workers, they want to kick downward pressure on wages and they don't want to see rising wages for americans. and they are all worried by the way that wages are going up. i've never seen anything like it, which is are going up and we have to do something about it, what? do we want to be in an economy where wages to rise for the lower and middle class workers? that is what i grew up on. wages and blue-collar people so important. >> art: that is a critical point to make. >> laura: the wages should be going up.
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>> will pose. >> that is not true. >> i know. >> half of my family is from jamaica, are you kidding me? >> have you ever smoked? >> i have. and i inhale. i didn't inhale. [laughter] >> laura: there is that laugh again. well, that was democratic presidential hopeful, a la harris, citing her jamaican roots when asked about legalizing marijuana and why she smoked marijuana in the past. but her jamaican born dad donald harris is not laughing. he is saying "my grandmother and my deceased parent must be turning in their grave right now to see their families name, reputation and proud jamaican identity connected in any way to the fraudulent stereotype of the pot smoking joys seeker in pursuit of identity politics." awkward. family aside, kamala harris
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tapping into their wide acceptance of marijuana in the country and will get political juice. more steaks and more politicians to line their pockets with the marijuana legalization. joining me alex, i had you want the podcast a couple of weeks ago. i got a huge reaction a former "new york times" reporter and get this offer -- all the revenue book, tell your children the truth about marijuana, mental illness and violence, alex, "new york times" reporter, doesn't matter but why would he write a book about the dangers of marijuana. why the heck did you? >> alex: it was really my wife who encouraged me to write the book. she is a psychiatrist and deals with criminally ill and she would come home from her job at a forensic hospital which is where they send the criminally insane and she would tell me case after case where people committed horrible crimes who were schizophrenic after years of using. and you know, in my grand knowledge, i would say, that
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sounds like madness, that is not true. that can't be real. and she is the one who trade -- trained at harvard and sees these people every day. she said, you know what maybe you should look at the studies yourself and when i did come i was shocked at the science, showing marijuana is linked to mental illness. it is linked to psychosis and then psychosis which is a break from reality is a crime. >> laura: alex, i'm thinking like john boehner former speaker of the house. now, he was staunchly against marijuana legalization and i see him talking a year or so ago, suddenly it is a big switcheroo from weiner. let's watch what he says. >> it is time for the hetero government to take another look at this. and i think these scheduling this drug can allow for research would be very helpful to the american people. >> laura: what is also helpful, a pot advisory board member on one of these big
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marijuana companies. i would imagine he's getting paid. i don't know for a fact but i cannot imagine he switching his position for nothing. >> alex: he is also a smoker so you know what, here's the thing. if we are going to legalize this drug and say you know what, this is a dangerous record -- recreational toxicants, alcohol is legal and people can go gamble their house as a way we think marijuana fits in that category and we will warn peopld let them make their own choices, so be it. if i don't think that is the right choice, but so be it. let's not pretend this is medically necessary for people and let's really not pretend this is a good idea for teenagers, that this is a good idea for people whose brains are developing and a good idea for psychiatric conditions from anxiety or depression. let's be honest about the risks. tell your children because i want people to have those conversations with their kids. i want people in their 20s who might be using and seeing psychiatric side effects they did not expect feeling weirdly more depressed or having weird thoughts. to have some idea, you know
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what, this is not, this is not benign drug. there is a load to the site. >> laura: well, and i would also remind everybody, just because alcohol is bad and other drugs are bad doesn't mean this is good to. >> alex: that it is exactly right. >> laura: alcohol is bad, yeah, so we need another thing to screw up young people. i've got to say them i find it so absurd, no medical peer-reviewed research and just quickly, alex that demonstrates a medical benefit to pot. am i right about that? >> alex: there are very narrow conditions to do good and cbt, narrow conditions where proven to do good but for the most part you are right. the left has done a fantastic job of confusing people about this and frankly, my old boss, my old employer, "washington post," not pushed back on this. >> laura: alex, we will keep on this, thank you for joining us in writing this book.
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>> laura: welcome at his friday and time for the last bite. all right, legendary charles barkley trying to find the humor in the jussie smollett hate crime hoax. >> america, i want to tell you do not commit crimes with checks. [laughter] you cannot come if you are going to break the law, do not write a check. >> if you write a check, what? >> and never used an atm. now, i heard you can only get $200 out of it. >> stopped, literally. [laughter] >> you have to make a lot of stops at the atm. i am in the liam neeson's neighborhood. >> laura: what is and that coffee cup is my question. that is all the time we have
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