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right. >> you're over in paris and the government decides it doesn't like what you say can they bar you from coming back? neil: if i had the tie to be married to someone in isis it might get their attention and a might understand it. >> well, you could get the attention but could they strip you of your citizenship? neil: they could keep you out, right? because they're concerned, right >> no they can't. neil: and the saga continues isis bride part two, with a former u.s. attorney who says we're right not to let the bride in and yet, another lawyer for the bride's family here to say it is unamerican if we don't. and then you see this new york city times square billboard? well its got alexandria ocasio-cortez speeding today i want you to meet the guy behind it whose all too happy to see how she's reacting and speaking of reacting did the media pull the trigger too quickly and too often on stories they have to later dial back from jussie smollett to a high schooler, maybe it is better to be later on a story and right, than early

and wrong. and make it nine weeks in a row the dow hasn't been on this kind of a terror in nearly a quarter of a century when bill clinton was president so what is this all saying about this president? from rallies that won't stop to a second big north korean summit that is about to start. we've got you covered, from beginning to end, with a whole lot of other news, tucked in between including the latest on a new england patriots owner now in a super legal mess and a prominent democratic senator in a super beef with kids think candid camera just with an edge, and adorable kids built with a sharper edge, but what if i told you the kids weren't the ones getting a bad rappin' this video , the senator was not for caving to what they wanted but precisely for not caving to what they wanted? the story behind the senator seening red over very young constituents who prefers she spend a lot of green. remember what i said about jumping on a story too soon? we played that back again and again and decided it's not what

you see at first. it all begins right now, and only on a show like this, where everything is live and nothing is left off the table. all right, now taking to the border right now between colombia and venezuela where it could get hot and heavy later on today, the rival candidate has decided to go and defy a travel ban that he can't leave his home or general area. he wants to get to that border where its been very very violent , a couple of people killed dozens injured and they are very concerned things could potentially get a lot worse today as they up the ante over getting aid into that country that is blocked at almost every entry into that country welcome everybody i'm neil cavuto and you're watching cavuto live my first thanks to charles payne who did a great job in my absence. i'm beginning with the latest on what is happening in venezuela,

a situation that is deteriorat ing very very quickly. garrett tenney has the latest from washington. reporter: so the venezuelan military is blocking humanitarian aid from entering the country and that is why venezuelans are trying to get across-the-boarder to allow that aid to come in, and this is under the orders of embattled president nicholas maduro that this humanitarian aid is not being allowed in. in the border town the country's national guard fired tear gas at a crowd of people who tried moving metal barricades that are blocking a bridge into colombia where truckloads of aid are waiting to enter. now similar scenes played out at other border crossings friday. one person was killed at least 22 were injured in clashes with security forces. white house press secretary sarah sanders responded to the view answer had in a statement saying the united states strong ly condemns the venezuelan military's use of force against unarmed civilians and innocent volunteers on venezuela's border with brazil. the venezuelan military must allow humanitarian aid to peacefully enter the country.

the world is watching. senator marco rubio has been closely following the developments and this morning he tweeted, under the direction of cuban agents dressed as venezuela national guard officer s, forces are attacking civilians very tense and dangerous situation developing, and you saw there, opposition leader and interim president, he has vowed to bring the aid into the country despite maduro's orders for the military to block it. the military is crucial in all of this because so far, it is sticking with president maduro, but there are some signs that the loyalty of rankin file soldiers is beginning to shift. colombian officials say four national guardsmen abandoned their post and fled across-the-boarder to pledge loyalty and suggested that more soldiers are going to do the same later today. vice president mike pence is going to be in colombia on monday as well, to voice the u.s.' support for the venezuelan 's people's fight for democracy. neil? neil: garrett thank you very very much. well the trump adminitration as garrett pointed out is condemning the violence in

venezuela as the vice president also reveals is planning to meet with regional leaders in colombia. with us retired lt. general jerry boykin. general always good to have you. it could get dicey today. what do we have to do? >> good to be with you. yeah, today could by the end of the day, we could either see a bloody mess there or we could see the end of maduro's government. i think that what we have to do is exactly what we're doing. we have to continue putting pressure on maduro through the international community, building a coalition that will help with that, and if you looked at what happened last night at the live aid concert, they were three south american presidents that were standing with him and that is at least in part due to the u.s. efforts. neil: we talk about what he wants to do he's already defied a travel ban to be at that concert and he's already defying another travel ban not to go to

these checkpoints or border points where aid is blocked, and he's more or less testing the soldiers here. we are going to get our hands-on that aid, and you're not going to do anything about it. what if they do? >> yeah, that's why i say it could be a bloody mess by the end of the day. look as was pointed out there earlier, the question is will there be enough defictions at the higher ranks, at the leadership level, that will stop this from turning into a massacre of innocent civilians and we also need to think, what are the options of these people in venezuela have? what do they do now? their inflation mays it so that they can't buy the things that they need. medicine and food, and they've been starving for a long time, so what are their options other than what 3.4 million of them have already done, and that is to leave the country. but that is there are a lot of people that can't leave that country so what are their options except to stand up to

this government, so i'm really worried about what's going to happened to, but only god knows what the outcome will be. neil: you know what's interesting too, general, is you talk about defections in the high military ranks among generals retired or otherwise, he's only the third at this point, he broke ranks with nicholas maduro and says i support here but precious few are following him and i understand why that most of these generals though their allegiance to maduro so they see no upside in switching sides but what would trigger that, a test at the border or what do you think? >> well first of all, a lot of them are holding on because they're part of a very corrupt regime and they've got big investments in the national oil companies and so forth but what would cause them to leave if their lower ranks in the military turn completely against them, and suddenly, they become targeted by not only the people,

but by the lower ranks of the military, they've got to make a choice. do we get out while we can or do we stay here and risk being killed by our own people, and i think that kind of pressure is ultimately what they're probably going to face. neil: now we should look at this here it's hard for you to see where you are but along the border they are seizing state vehicles and other vehicles carrying soldiers, three of them were kidnapped yesterday by protesters. the fact of the matter is i'm thinking what nicholas maduro would do in response he would justify taking forceful violent action blaming things like this, and then it's anyone's guess what happens, right? >> yeah, but he doesn't need an excuse. he's already made clear that he will stop this. now that has to be interpreted as using lethal force to stop that aid from coming across-the-boarder out of brazil and colombia, so he doesn't need an excuse to kill his own people and back in 2014 and 2017, when he had riots down there

protesting maduro, hundreds of people were killed down there, so this is, again, this is why today is so critical that this could be just an awful situation there. neil: general thank you very much. we're going to stay on this and keep you updated on this. this is what's going on live in venezuela right now and there are a variety of checkpoints and border crossings across the country that have been shut down and locked down, and this of course as the military has to force the issue, follow nicholas maduro's orders that this has got to stop they can't get their hands-on that aid and what they are saying is that they cannot get their hands-on that aid, they are going to take matters into their own hands, here, and this is an example of that. i told you about a few soldiers who were kidnapped yesterday. some had refused to fire on the venezuelan people. but it escalates and escalates and we'll get the read on this from senator ben carden and a host of others on what our official response should be you're watching cavuto live, now

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neil: all right, we're following growing tensions now along the venezuelan border, this is a colombian town right near the border with venezuela. the border points have been shut down. this was a bus, we understand, some holding venezuelan soldiers , some were defecting to colombia we don't know the full details yet but protesters on what side stormed the bus, attacked the bus, it's on fire now as you could see, it was hitting some power lines along the colombian border here so we don't have many more details than that other than to tell you that all of this was forced who arrived in colombia defying this travel ban earlier on to say that the country of venezuela needs all of that aid that's been prevented from reaching the venezuelan people. he's going to force the issue, there was a concert last night to raise money to help,

30 million of whom are dealing with runaway inflation, and to put that in perspective a gallon of milk quadruples every single day. every single day. so that kind of puts in perspective just what the average person is dealing within that country. we have more on this ongoing story because brian, i understand what the government is is trying to do under nick o class maduro is prevent that aid from coming in and saying that aid has got to get in there and there inlies the battle. reporter: that's right and this is exactly what many observers were worried about today, about this tension. we knew there were going to be hotspots these two border crossings in colombia that's where colombia borders with venezuela. these are the two bridges in which the humanitarian aid that has been sitting in a warehouse, american humanitarian aid, food, medicine, diapers, some 200 tons

of aid that is supposed to go to starving venezuelans, its been stuck and today was the day in which the opposition said we're going to finally move that aid over to the venezuela, maduro's regime has put the troops on these bridges, they've closed them and there was the concern that what we're seeing now is what would happen, that this would escalate into violence. this morning, the leader of the opposition has taken to twitter tweeting optimistically saying the people of venezuela will stand up to the maduro regime and there's no way the maduro regime and the military will stand against the people so what we're seeing now is the opposition and civilians are trying to put the pressure on the maduro regime and the military, by showing up at these border crossings, and moving obstacles from what we understand reportedly, there is video out there, of civilians that are physically moving obstacles on these bridges so that humanitarian aid can final

ly make its way into venezuela. there is video that was tweeted out from twitter which shows four national guardsmen, venezuelan national guardsmen reportedly defecting towards the opposition to people cheering that these national guardsmen have laid down their weapons essentially and are now on the side of the opposition. the big question today, neil, is how much of the military was going to sign with maduro and how much of this military was going to side with and the people and we have seen violent clashes in venezuela before where tens of people have been shot in the streets, was that the kind of situation that we're going to expect today. remember this is just the morning we're already seeing buses burning so the united nations said they were very concerned about violence and urging both sides to notice kanye west late this into

violence and the opposition was very confident today saying neil this morning that they believed that with the power of the people, with all of these civilians taking to the streets that there is no way that the military would fight back and let's see if that's the case, neil. neil: do you know what's interesting you mentioned these soldiers who defected apparently three of them we're told from the telegraph, british newspaper , that they were ordered to fire tear gas on protesters and they refused. then they were leaving the country, and soldiers reportedly were firing or trying to apprehend them, but you get back to a core point here, whoever has the military has the upper hand right now nicholas maduro at least the military, now three have bolted, a prominent general just yesterday indicating that he was going to throw his support behind the fellow we recognize as the legitimate president of the country, juan g uaido, but it does give you an indication whoever has the general has the upper hand, has the edge but there does seem to be for the first time today a

clear sign that some of the soldiers who work for those generals are saying the hell with it. >> and that's exactly right and i'll say this, juan guaido went to twitter today and he said this just moments ago. he said in the capacity of commander-in-chief of the national armed forces the venezuelan military, i have given the exceptional circumstance of the republic i dismiss the qualification of traders to the father land for military personnel, crossing the border. what he's saying is i am in charge of the venezuelan military, those who decide to go on the side of the opposition as the leader of the armed forces of venezuela, juan guaido you are not a trader. i proclaim that you will not be a trader. what he's doing is he's encouraging military service members out there who may be on the fence here as to what to go, to side with the venezuelan people or to side with maduro, he is encouraging on twitter to side with the people and he is acting as though he is the legitimate leader of venezuela and again as you said, the

united states recognizes guaido as the legitimate leader of venezuela and so do tens of other nations i think some 50 other nations that believe that as well. he also went on to say on twitter just moments ago as well , neil, juan guaido, anyone who is not on the side of the people and who prevents the entry of humanitarian aid is a desserter who betrays our people who those who accompany us to save the lives of venezuelans are true patriots. i think the question now today is neil, is as we look at these hotspots not only on the border between venezuela and colombia, but also on the border between venezuela and brazil there was a clash there yesterday with one woman died and 12 others were injured. to what extent do these military members who want to join the opposition do they read something like this or see this message, how far are they willing to go, and how far are those who are loyal to maduro willing to go? again this is a very dangerous situation right now in venezuela

and the u.n. secretary general again yesterday they had the meeting and there was real concern about today and so far, just hours into the day we really need to keep taking a look at this. any wrong move here can change quickly. neil: yeah it already has thank you very very much my friend. just to put this into perspective what you're looking at here this is a country that on a per capita basis a little more than two decades ago was a wrong the richest on earth, knee deep in oil revenues that made it the envy of latin america. everyone wanted to be connected to venezuela, and along came big socialistic government pushes that drained all that money and then some, a curse of riches that produced poverty at record levels across the country, of now 30 million who by and large are at or below the poverty line , their poverty line, and there is aid, hundreds of millions of dollars of aid at various checkpoints around the country, six that i know of some have updated upwards of a dozen that can't get in. they're literally at the border and they cannot get in and right

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that's really kind of it seems like almost irrelevant in the circumstances where you're dealing with somebody who joined enemy forces to make war on the united states. basically, the narrow legal issue is if she was the child of a diplomat at the time she was born she's deemed to be a sovreign of that country which is yemen. if she was born in the united states and she wasn't the child of a active diplomat according to whatever the state department said at that time, then she's probably an american citizen, and if she can get to a port of entry, she's got a right to enter. the important thing, it seems to me here, is that will all get worked out in the courts and it's an accident of birth one way or the other. what ought to be happening here is the justice department should be mobilizing to indict her for treason and terrorism offences so that she knows if she gets here, she has a good likelihood of spending the rest of her life in jail and maybe that'll factor

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american, just to be clear and i'm not not a lawyer and you are , and a good one, aren't the best change when you start in this post-9/11 environment saying threatening things about this country and to this country , there must be something for that. >> yeah, neil, i wish it were the case and i think in a same world, if you made war against your country and joined the enemy during war time, that should be deemed to renounce your citizenship in effect, but the supreme court in 1967 basically said your citizenship is kind of a natural right. it doesn't come from the government and government cannot revoke it without your consent. neil: believe me, i understand that but that's 1967 and a post- 9/11 country. don't we have to update things a bit to the reality of terror and reality of what's happening soon >> yeah, i'm with you, neil. this is why i hate turning these

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neil: you are looking live at juan guaido he is the guy we recognize as the legitimate leader of venezuela not nick o class maduro. here is the thing about juan guaido he defied a travel ban in effect in venezuela and hopped over the border in colombia where they had a concert to raise money for some

30 million venezuelans of the large lions share of whom are under complete duress dealing with 2 million percent inflation in hopes of other ills just to put that in perspective. the price of milk in this country, you pick-up a gallon of milk it goes up four-fold every single day that's just milk so basic staples are just out of control. he is saying right now, guaido, we will follow this very very closely he hopes calm can return to the country and hopes soldiers can stop shooting tear gas at protesters in that country. this is just a few feet from where he's standing because he's on the colombian side right now. here is the thing though. the military is still shooting at protesters with tear gas. three soldiers would not comply with that earlier this morning, and they were running to the colombian border. there were shots fired at them. they're all okay but not everyone in the military is complying with this tough stance of the maduro administration and now the question is what do we do to thwart the issue of aid that is at checkpoints all across the country but cannot

come in, in fact where guaido is standing is a million dollars worth of american aid that's been sitting there for the better part now of a couple of weeks. what is the united states of america to do? a top democrat on the senate foreign relations committee joins us right now. senator ben carden. senator thank you for taking the time. >> neil it's good to be with you. neil: same here, sir. well it is a tough position to be in, but what can we do? >> well you know clearly, maduro has created a humanitarian crisis in his own country. now closing borders and denying humanitarian aid to help his own people that's outrageous. we had the support of europe. we really need to isolate the international community that is supporting the maduro regime that includes russia, and china, and make it clear that's unacceptable that we have to work to provide the humanitarian aid to the people who are desperate within venezuela.

that needs to be our priority the safety of the venezuelans. neil: do you worry, if that aid can't come in and you have juan guaido right now forcing the issue to try to make sure it gets in but what if they don't let him back in and then all of a sudden he's a leader by distance? >> well we know the challenge of effectively having control of a country. maduro has lost all legitimaticy guigo is doing everything he can as an interim president so there can be free and fair elections so the venezuelans can choose their future. it will never happen under maduro so we need to continue international pressure work with the organization of american states that are with us on this issue, and really put extreme pressure on maduro to give up power and to erode the power around him. you already mentioned some of the military are not following the orders. we think there are a good deal of people within the military that do not support the maduro

regime. neil: well you are right to say and you got the latest general to break ranks of the maduro administration and he, to my understanding, senator, is only the third general retired or otherwise, to support the new government, the vast majority are still in maduro's corner, and unless that changes, this doesn't change, right? >> well the military is somewhat complicated within venezuela. there are lots of generals. we're not exactly sure how much control they actually have among the soldiers. the soldiers we believe are very much supportive of a free and democratic venezuela, so we're not sure whose calling shots in the military. we know there's some foreign interference from cuba. we're aware of that so it's a little more complicated then whether generals will walk away or not. we think the effective management of the military is very much in question. neil: all right, and for those watching live right now, and this is just from a little while ago, it's hard to see where you are but this is on the colombian

side and these are colombian folks i just want to make that clear and they're trialing to deal with the unrest certainly in their country as a result of this, but i did want to talk to you, sir, about this note that was scribbled on john bolton's legal pad a few weeks ago talking about 5,000 u.s. troops in colombia. whether that was by accident or to send a signal, what do you think about it if we were to suddenly send troops to that border? >> oh, i think we have to be very careful about military intervention at this point. i don't believe that's the solution. i think the solution right now is to support the interim government, to give them the legitimaticy. we've already done that through the banking system, the control of the assets of the country, and hopefully the control of the military. i think that's the better way to go, but outside military interference could be counter productive. neil: you know, senator, i don't

want to interrupt you with breaking news events here, this is guaido he's on a truck on the colombian border a few feet from the venezuelan border and i suspect this is one of the many trucks or vehicles that has aid coming from the united states and it looks like he is going to stay on that and try to forcibly drive it into venezuela, so guys if we can still stay on this i know we're at the mercy of the satellite gods here that could take this shot down in a millisecond, but if he forces this issue, obviously senator, that invites a whole host of worries right? >> oh, absolutely, but i must tell you we are not certain that the military will turn on this effort. we know that the rankin file are very supportive of a free and democratic venezuela so the maduro regime will not survive. it has no legitimaticy. it is already on a democratic process and we've already been in transition. we need the support of the

international community. it's regrettable that there's certain international players that are not working with us. neil: all right we've showed earlier and we're watching to see if he can get into the country with that aid. this is going to be very very crucial. earlier you might have seen a fire set on a bus. this was a regular city bus and no one was injured in this when protesters stormed the city bus, lit it on fire to spark outrage over the failure of deliveries, getting into venezuela but we do know of three soldiers who would not fire on venezuelans under direct orders from the general at the site and unfortunately i do not have the general's name. what generals have been told to do at these border points and checkpoints there's six that i know of others have been e-mail ing me but i can't confirm they're up to a dozen such points where aid is stuck and cannot get in, so senator is there anything we can or should do to force that aid going in? >> there is.

we've already imposed individual sanctions on some of the players that are preventing the aid from coming in. we've also offered a way in which those generals that decide to be with the people of venezuela that they will be able to get their sanctions eliminated, or that we'll be able to give them safe passage, so there is efforts already underway to use a stick and the stick is if they continue to turn on the people of venezuela, there will be a price they will pay. we've already imposed that price on several individuals within venezuela's military. the other, the carrot is that we will protect you the best we can in a transition to make sure there's a free and fair election and an orderly transition for the government in venezuela. neil: all right senator thank you very much. i hit you with a lot there with the breaking news and i appreciate your patience and understanding. senator ben cardin, key member of the senate foreign relations

from the beautiful state of maryland. you're looking at a not so beautiful scene on the border between colombia and venezuela, where the president, juan guaido the fellow we recognize is the rightful leader of that country and not nicholas maduro looks like and just me looking at first glance wants to ride that aid truck right now into venezuela. here is the thing though. he has violated his travel ban when he left venezuela yesterday to go into colombia for a concert to raise money for venezuelans affected by all of this, there's 30 million of them , better better than 3.5 million have already left the country and with them a lot of the money that goes with them and right now everyone else in that country is dealing with sky high inflation, some put it at 2 million percent and they can't deal with this going on much longer. hence the quest for getting aid, basic staples and supplies and medicines. if your a diabetic for example, in that country, good luck getting insulin, good luck getting anything else, and that has prompted a great deal of concerns at local hospitals,

we're told, that are filled to the brink. the impact of all of this with our own susan li, michael murphy and cfra research investment strategist lindsay bell. you know, lindsay, i'll begin with you here. the markets were much more focused on promising discussions and talks over trade between "our bodies, ourselves" and the chinese, optimism ahead of the president of vietnam over north korea and then out of the blue comes this complete disintegration in venezuela and it looks like disintegrating all the more. >> yeah, the markets really have been ignoring "the situation" going on in venezuela the oil markets however have paid attention to it and we've seen prices push up there a little bit because of over the last month sanctions have been put on ventura county in addition to iran, venezuela really has an issue there with getting the oil out of the country. it's really thick oil, heavy crude oil, that needs to be refined in the u.s. and talking about refining it in china, we're not sure if that will happen. that's one sanction that has

been working in venezuela to help the venezuelan people prevent money from going to maduro and hopefully funnel it instead to the new regime. neil: what do you think, mike? >> i don't think it's a very big deal for the markets. obviously a big deal for the people of venezuela but i think it's not going to as soon as the united states announced that we were going to recognize a different leader i think the end was in sight so inevitably this is going to end badly for maduro 's regime and we're going to have hopefully a better open trading partner in venezuela, so long term it's probably a positive for the markets. short-term unless something crazy happens like missiles being fired or if we do move troops down there as wu r alluding to that's what markets wouldn't like but it won't have a major negative impact. neil: we don't know the elements that the could intervene here "the talk" about russian operatives and the reason i don't know what to prove or not to prove so i won't venture there all i do know susan is that this is a situation for a country that used to be on a per capita basis among the richest

on earth and all that oil money had everything going for it and now nothing. >> largest proven oil reserves in the world and this date, february 23, this saturday was setup as a risky gamble from the trump adminitration so if they get the aid that's good for the people but also a test of the loyalty of the armies to maduro. neil: in other words they let that truck go through, assuming that is aid and i'm told it is, that's a big thing. >> and what they do to the people. do they turn violent on people that want the humanitarian aid, and what kind of pr does that set for the rest of the country when you're starving the people of aid that they need whether it's medical supplies, food and just basic elements, right? neil: yeah, and we seen it before, where dictator leaders have any questionable credibility don't care how it looks they just do what they do. >> and the question too is if he goes through the border on that truck, what does it do for the momentum of the opposition party too because he's likely to get arrested. neil: right. i'm wondering too, the whole

region, latin america itself has been coming back, colombia is a good example of that, venezuela stands out for that but i also am old enough to remember argentina and runaway inflation before any of you were born and i'm wondering if not handled properly, this does spread and this does become a problem for an entire region that venezuela notwithstanding is looking very promising. >> it could, but i think the fact that we're in there, we're involved, we're overseeing this we're trying to push the old regime out, i think that says enough to the global investing world that this is going to be handled properly and the people are going to be treated fairly and i expect that to happen sooner rather than later with the new regime. neil: are we looking at a test of leadership here that tests whose alive? you want to have maduro has been fortunate for him, the general because they have the economic link from that. a few have bolted but not many and i don't see any of this changing unless they do.

>> that's right, testing the loyalty of the people, of the people close to maduro and the army as well. he's a hand-chosen successor but he's with chavez and as we know, he started off the socialistic regime in venezuela, but maduro himself given that he staved the people, people are angry, they are fearing for their safety in the country, you would think that at some point there is a tipping point, and as the trump adminitration has pointed out that might be this weekend. neil: we're going to take a quick break here. i do want to emphasize for moments ago these are colombian soldiers earlier on protesters in this colombian town had seized a city bus and lit it on fire. nobody was injured or killed in that attack but these are colombian soldiers, calm down, everyone just calm down. and trying to restore calm on that side of the border but whether you're on that side of the border or the brazilian side of the border with colombia it is a situation that right now has deteriorated rapidly. some said this was telegraphed yesterday when there were protests ahead of these that killed at least three people and

injured dozens more and that this was all but sort of pre- ordained if you will, because this was a planned response, the protesters weren't going anywhere, and soldiers were telling them well you better not go to any of these checkpoints and they are. again this is at one of these checkpoints where there was aid along the border between venezuela and colombia, brian has more. hey brian. reporter: hey neil well yeah it looks like just moments after juan guaido spoke he said in that speech just for about two minutes, he says that we come from a place of peace. this is a peaceful humanitarian mission. we do not want violence. he had a message to the armed forces of venezuela and he says welcome to the right side. essentially right now we'd imagine that at some point, they're going to try to cross, but they're running into a few issues here particularly what's happening in the city of urenia, venezuela which is right across-the-boarder of colombia,

there are reportedly vehicles burned there, we're seeing video of that as well, over on that side but also, reportedly private small gangs, armed gangs , these are gangs that have been known all the way through the days of chavez, these are people that are on motorcycles, they are former soldiers who work who believe deeply in socialism and we're reportedly hearing that some of these gangs are now showing up on the other side of the venezuela/colombia border which adds a whole different level of complexity here. these are some of these have been known through human rights launch and other organizations to have perpetrated some of the worst violence against protester s over the last two to three years. remember, and that's juan guaido right now that's whose speaking by the way to a bunch of reporters as soon as we know what he's saying we'll let you guys know but i think with these armed gangs it's important to realize that some 165 people were killed in a three-month

span in 2017 and before that, more than 500 people were killed in these clashes against the government, so while we're see ing this and we're listening to juan guaido talk about a peaceful mission, there's no telling how this will escalate because again, maduro's control, we don't know how much control he has, not only of the military but also of these private gangs who have a history of being violent against anti-government protesters, neil. neil: there is a good deal of confusion, brian and that's why when you mentioned about others that have said it was on the colombian side not the venezuelan side others have said it's very hard to distinguish like even here, with guaido he's within feet of either country right now we're told he's still technically in colombia, brazil 's foreign minister is on the wire right now saying that he fully expects nicholas maduro 's government will allow the aid to pass but as you've reported here, he's not.

the brazilian authority is saying it's very exciting to see people anxious to recover their freedom and have a decent life but that does not guarantee they'll get that aid, right? >> no, it doesn't guarantee anything. i mean, we have yet to see with our own eyes these trucks cross the border, and get into venezuela nor do we know what's going to happen once that aid gets into venezuela. again, things like these armed gangs that are pro-maduro we don't know what's going to happen whose going to facilitate this aid to get out. until we see with our own eyes i think everything else is clearly a very tense and up in the air situation right now, so unless we see the video "our bodies, ourselves", you know, nothings happened yet. neil: other thing that's interesting let's say that guaido gets back into venezuela he violated a travel ban, my guess is he was raising the very real possibility he could be arrested on the spot for violat ing that ban and then obviously that ups the ante, this is just feet between

venezuela and colombia this used to be a very open border even in the hugo chavez days and it is pretty nailed down right now, but he wants to simply walk across from colombia back into venezuela with aid in tow. i have a feeling that's a lot easier said than done. >> yeah that's right and there's video of guaido coming into venezuela, coming into colombia last night at that live aid venezuela benefit concert. there's video posted on his twitter account where you see guaido and his posse running across-the-boarder into colombia , freely. i doubt that is "the situation" that's going to happen now, apparently the opposition and guaido says that he had help from the venezuelan military to get into colombia last night for that benefit concert where some 30 of latin music super stars put on a concert, richard branson, the billionaire obviously hosted that concert and he came in, it was a surprise, he spoke, the crowd

loved it, and apparently according to that video he had no problem getting into colombia i do think neil you're right. it's going to be a lot tougher to get back in but apparently the opposition says that they've got the venezuelan military or some members of the venezuelan military that has made this transition between both countries easy, at least getting into colombia at least one way out. neil: brian thank you very much, my friend again just updating you on what's happening here before you. this is a story of a country, once one of the world's richest on a per capita basis knee deep in oil revenues that were the world's envy as susan li remains along some of the largest reserves on the planet. right now, all depleted all gone , the revenue prospects from that all disappearing, because of a government that spent way way way beyond its means, made promises to way too many people he could make good on 3.5 million people have since left another 1.5 million we're told are looking to leave but getting in or out of that country is anyone's guess. this is from earlier today, whereof those along the

colombian border seized a regular passenger bus, no one was injured in this attack but just to make a statement that they don't like what's going on. colombian soldiers didn't like what they were doing and responding to what's going on so they have to keep an eye on their people responding a bit too hot headed they say to what's happening to the venezuelan people and in the middle of this you have a quest for aid, that they're trying to get in there better than $150 billion worth some pegged it north of $300 million, that is sitting blocked by railcars, trucks and others and soldiers who are told that if anyone tries to force that in, they will be shot on site. and it goes on and on. stay with us. ay, paint a picture for me. uh, well, this will be the kitchen. and we'd like to put a fire pit out there, and a dock with a boat, maybe. why haven't you started building? well, tyler's off to college... and mom's getting older... and eventually we would like to retire. yeah, it's a lot. but td ameritrade can help you build a plan for today

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a number of people have been injured. 3 reported deaths yesterday in violence of the country as dually recognized leader juan guaido leading to concert in colombia for support for citizens in the country. we are going to have in a few minutes the daughter of executive, daughter coming here to tell us what her family is doing to try to get back of the middle of the mess in venezuela. also big developments, the president trump of the united states heading to meet counterpart kim jong un, hey, david. >> hey, neil, good morning, second summit the president with kim jong un, it'll take place wednesday and thursday, president trump number one

priority for the meeting making sure there are no nuclear weapons, that includes, yes, even testing, north korea claims it ended its nuclear testing program in 2017 however there's concern that that testing is being done in secret. here is director of national intelligence dan coats last month. >> we currently assess that north korea will seek to attempt capabilities and unlikely to give up nuclear capabilities and production capabilities because its leaders ultimately view nuclear weapons as critical to regime survival. >> but it's president trump who reportedly upset with coats testimony. >> we have had such a great relationship and china has helped us a lot with north korea and kim jong un since i got to office. if i were not elected president, you would have been in a war

with north korea. we now have a situation where the relationships are good, no nuclear testing, no missiles, no rockets, we got hostages back, we have many remains back and coming back rapidly. >> since the last summit in june in singapore the president and leader kim have been in touch through letters, their comments back in june, neil, goal-oriented and substance in some cases, president trump says this meeting, though, this coming week largely about keeping nuclear weapons out of north korea hands, neil. neil: david, thank you very much, my friend, new fox poll shows the number of voters approved the way president trump is handling north korea, former special to negotiations with north korea, thank you for taking the time, are you optimistic about meeting? >> yes, i am, neil, the first

summit deliverables, unfortunately we saw no action, no movement on those commitments, but now i think there's a momentum here and i think the second summit is going to be successful, i think there needs to be deliverables and i think the president is determined to get those deliverables. neil: the only thing that i see is that withheld shooting missiles and that sort of thing but others are saying and some of the operatives are saying identifying r -- all missiles sites, they haven't delivered on. >> when i talk about deliverables, i'm talking about kim jong un committing to verifiable dismantling of nuclear facilities and nuclear weapons to include verification protocol, a very robust verification protocol. so that would be major, this is kim jong un saying i'm giving up all my nuclear weapons and this

is what we are looking at. neil: do you believe he would do that, why would he give that up? >> the intelligence community came up very clearly and understand the judgment and i do support the judgment but i think saying that their survival depends on retaining nuclear weapons is reasonable at this moment, however, the dynamic can change, neil, wants normal relationship with the united states, kim jong un, a new young leader who has another 40 to 50 years, the country to be living in isolation, they within the a different environment, i think he has made the strategic decision and i think that's why he's reached tout president trump. if you want a normal relationship, then you to

dismantle and disable nuclear facilities, i think he's prepared to do that knowing that that's the only way he can get a normal relationship with the united states. if we falter or waiver and let him still retain nuclear capabilities, indeed, that would be the best scenario with north korea. if he wants both, no nuclear weapons and no nuclear facilities. neil: he traveled thousands of miles to meet with him just like singapore, i don't know, you're close, i don't see the quid pro quo from the north koreans with all to have efforts that donald trump has taken. >> if they do give up nuclear facilities and they do become a normal state, not threatening the south, not threatening the region, the world, i think that

would be major. neil: absolutely, absolutely. and you think we will get there? >> i personally think if we persist, as long as we don't waiver and i think he wants. wanted a relationship with the u.s. and i think kim jong un has made strategic decision, a young man, he's not his father, he inherited a lot and he's saying, i want to change the scenario. neil: all right, we will watch it closely. in the meantime, we are looking at what's happening in venezuela. bryan llenas, the men we recognize, the leader of venezuela has got into his country, travel ban that he violated. >> we do not know that yet, but what we do know that just in the last few months we have seen

more tear gas thrown at protestors, we believe in venezuelan side of the venezuelan-colombian border, town of yorina, stolen by protestors and lit on fire, protestors now actually on the streets, we see in venezuela, this is all part of the call from juan guaido, opposition leader, who has called for millions of people to take to the streets today, we know from the associated press that juan guiado a few minutes ago that he was on humanitarian aid truck, he has ordered trucks to be sent to venezuela from kukuta, colombia, from what we understand are on their way to the border, what will happen then, we don't know, but obviously what we are now seeing more and more venezuelans taking to the street, we are seeing tear gas from venezuelan military forces being shot at

protestors and we don't have a sense of like arrests or deaths or anything like that at this moment and we also don't know which side to have border juan guiado is on but we do know streets are getting more packed with folks. again, the opposition believes and still believes that when more and more people get on the streets and if they can really gain momentum today that the humanitarian aid truck filled with food and medicine and diapers will be able to be delivered today. they strongly believe that the military, maduro's regime will stand down, a pretty dangerous game of chicken that we will be seeing unfolding today. this is a dire situation for many people, 87% of this country is in extreme poverty. many people cannot afford to feed themselves and you're having situation now where the truck are just across the border with help. it is a dramatic situation and

as you can see, you can see protestors on the red bus again and what we believe is yorina, venezuela, a tense situation, neil and we will follow it. we still don't know where juan guiado is, as you keep mentioning, an important point, a travel ban on him, he wasn't supposed to travel in colombia, he found a way to get to colombia, traveled pretty easily for the live aid venezuela concert and got off the truck and now we don't know where he is. but the crowd keeps growing in venezuela, neil. neil: thank you very much, bryan llenas, we are keeping an eye on the situation. we are told that if guiado were to enter the country he would be arrested on the spot because he disobeyed travel ban by entering in there. but arresting a man recognized by much of the western world, much of the main world i should say with the exception china and russia and iran to be the legitimate leader of the country getting arrested on the spot for

trying to bring in aid to the country to 30 million people who badly needed aid, that would not go down well, but these are crowds building on both sides on the border, caused disturbance along brazilian border and colombian border. along colombian border with a president who is trying to get back into his country with aid, nicolás maduro who is formally in charge because we have the military in that country, saying, no, no, a ploy of the americans to come in here and interrupt internal sovereign affairs. he's telling people of venezuela, maduro, criminal act and allowing aid to come in is not aid, is like a trojan horse on the part of americans to break into the country and tear up country, the trump administration says it's quite the opposite, trying to get humanitarian aid to people who desperately need it and for a lot of americans still stuck in the country, voluntarily or

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neil: all right, along the border of vens well tea and colombia rackus on both sides. there's fury on both sides over venezuelan government refuse to

go to let aid, both, of course, on venezuelan border m of them are saying, let the come in, your people desperately let it. kristina vadel, he has been jailed along with other 5 other executives, reports that dozens of other americans held in the country not so voluntarily, she joins us from louisiana. how are you holding up? >> i'm doing okay, i'm trying to say strong for my father. neil: when was the last chance you had to talk to him? >> he called us just a few minutes ago, always with strength and he knows i'm on the show and he's so proud of us and i'm proud of him to stay strong for all what he has gone through the past 15 months.

>> i can't imagine what he and your entire family has gone through. how did he sound to you? >> he sounded good, focused. he tells us that he has a lot of hope and he's praying, he's praying a lot along with the other men and there's a possibility for their release and we remain hopeful that they'll be let go. >> i hope as well too, cristina, seized on charges of treason, they were stealing money from the country of venezuela or something like that? >> right, so the charges are baseless, they are being accused of having to do this refinancing of citgo that never actually happened and at this point, it's been 15 months, their human

rights have been violated and they haven't had due process and hearings have been differed 13 times and now being held on preventive measure, it's time for my father and these men to be let free, to be home with their families and get to spend time with us so we can see him again. neil: cristina, where is he being held, are you at liberty to say? >> intelligence base in venezuela, caracas, venezuela, it's called the bejesin, two floors down in a basement. this year so far they've only gone toddes breathe fresh air but once for 20 minutes and it's overcrowded and, of course, we are very worried about his health and safety, he's not a young guy same as the other men and no access to health care

even. neil: have you heard anything from the opposition leader juan guaido? >> well, i think his message is message of hope and for us, our priority is to plea for my father and the men's release and we hope a peaceful resolution for them but also for venezuela as a whole, our plea is the same for any leader in the world. neil: when you hear and see images that have come across of protestors gathering throughout the region, whether you're on the colombian or venezuela side or you're on the brazilian or venezuela side of the border and you see how it's gotten, how just it's disintegrated, what goes through your head?

>> wow, it's tremendous. for us there's anxiety, there's fear but there's also hope. like i said, you never know what's going to happen. of course, i fear more my father's safety, anything can happen but we remain hopeful and we pray and it's possible that there can be a peaceful resolution. we hope for that. neil: i'm sure you do. a lot of other people do. you've been very strong through this yourself from every indication i've heard. my best to you and your family and your dad, hope it all works out. >> thank you so much. appreciate your time. neil: cristina vadell, bryan llenas has the latest right now. >> neil, let me just say to cristina, courageous that she

came on and spoke with you with such class and amazingly given the circumstances and i will tell you this, today there are people, there are small acts of courage that are happening all across venezuela. great achievement in venezuela and again going into today, generally 3 major hot spots, border of colombia and one in brazil and apparently according to juan guaido first humanitarian aid has entered from brazil, what we can tell you that we do not believe, there's no indication that this is u.s. humanitarian aid. the reason why we are saying that is about an hour ago, the

associated press reported that the first truck of humanitarian aid from the brazilian government arrived in border with venezuela and talk with foreign minister that he fully expected that maduro's government would allow this aid to pass. so we believe that this is brazilian humanitarian aid from brazilian government that has allowed to enter through brazil into vens well ea. this -- venea because this is the first truck, the hope what opposition hopes will be many, many trucks today. we will see how this message and this news among all of the people who are on the streets right now in defiance of maduro regime. neil: all right, thank you, bryan llenas, very much. bryan was talking there along border points and this one colombian border where tear gas are has been fired to

protestors, limit today -- limited to hear gas and yesterday were bullets that killed 3 people, right now some restraint, some restraint on the part of the venezuelan military, not to go crazy, accepting aid, i have no reason to doubt from brazil. i should note that they can tell the identity of the trucks because they register in the country in which they are getting those goods, they are marked by american flag or registered by american flag or brazilian flag or colombian flag, shipments from brazil were allowed in, shipments from colombia were not and certainly not from the united states especially with nicolás saying we don't trust anything coming from the united states, we think it's a trojan horse and we think it's a boogie trap and we won't allow it in. the protestors are saying, you better allow it in.

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noncitizenship without due process and without utilizing the court system, this isn't about hoda, it's about putting presidential overreach in check and protecting the constitution because the president can declare somebody a noncitizen, it essentially renders the u.s. constitution and limitations played on executive. neil: u.s. official position, mike pompeo says she's not a citizen, born in this country but father was a diplomat, it was after being diplomat, no legal basis to bring her back to the u.s., she never qualified

for citizenship because at the time of her birth, again, stressing that she does have not have any legal basis or valid u.s. passport, no right to a passport nor any visa to travel to the u.s. and furthermore it was the obama administration during that time that revoked the passport, you said? >> definitely obama administration revoked the pass port. government can revoke the passport that they feel are engaged in criminal activity, what's mindbogglingly for me is how the administration can simply allow fake news, i tweeted that the u.s. government knew over 2 months before, almost 2 months before that her father was no longer a diplomat, born in the united states, she's an american citizen and again it's very scary to see the president just simply promote a lie in order -- neil: maybe he was just taking a cue from predecessor, barack obama, didn't want her back in the country --

>> what troubles me just a week ago, president trump called on european nations to take back people who left their countries and joined isis because simply leave them free is a threat to our country and that's what's mindbogglingly to me and by president trump declaring her a noncitizen, not only overreaching authority but essentially giving her a free pass, saying the u.s. has no jurisdiction over her and she herself, i made horrible mistakes and i am willing to pay whatever debts to society including facing jail. neil: you can understand a lot of people to be leery. she has crazy things, drive all over, veterans, patrons, drive into them, all over them, killed them. >> that's disgusting that is disgusting. neil: why should we welcome her back, we are talking laws of

1960's, i understand where you're coming from a legal basis, everything changed after 9/11, right? >> precisely because that tweet. we didn't know xa she -- what she tweeted and we do need the fbi to meet with her and process her through legal system if she made the tweet and posed as threat. neil: she took down the tweet after her account, before her account was scanned by twitter because violent messages. >> right. neil: i do know, i read you one thing that i can point to you but i won't read the more offensive -- >> right. neil: maybe the administration is arguing at this day and age at a time when we are concerned of the safety and isis on the run,@not quite dead, the better part of that would be telling

her, you built this proverbial bind you're in now, you will have to stick it out. >> neil, neil, i received threats by isis at least as well as many as of my friends and colleagues, nobody hates isis more than american muslims, we are targets, 97% targets are muslims, nobody is more concerned about safety than we are. however, the point is she's not asking for a free pass and be welcomed back as if nothing happened. she's asking to face the criminal justice system, -- >> when was the last time you talk today her? >> i won't get into specific purposes. we have to keep america safe and the only way to do that is not giving people a free pass but by bringing them to face our criminal justice system which we must believe in and protect and uphold as americans. neil: one issue which seems

barack obama and donald trump are in the same page, don't want her here. >> that lets her go loose and contradictory to president trump, if they broke the law we can hold them accountable. neil: thank you very much, i appreciate you coming in. >> thank you, god bless you, brother. neil: the media overreacted to judge something very quickly and the latest example from kids meeting with california senator dianne feinstein is the perfect example of this. the knee-jerk reaction is how awful senator feinstein looked lecturing the kids on doing something that she didn't want to do, we actually heard what they were demanding and i have to tell you this may -- i'm with feinstein on this. after this

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>> you come in here and you say it has to be my way or the highway, i don't respond to that. i know what i'm doing. neil: one to have cases where you see a story, you see a video, knee-jerk reaction these are cute kids, there must be something wrong with the senator is doing or saying, senator dianne feinstein, a lot of people responded to her taking on the kids who were demanding that she buy this green

legislation, that it was in the best interest of the country, they are kids, free to think that, anyone is free to think that and challenged them to say, you know, it's not all that good and i have to find a way to see if we could pay for this. cutting to the chase, cut to reality here, is she being overly vilified. fox news contributor and last but not least my buddy kat kempf. >> i agree, i think you would have to be a small child to think that the green new deal is any sort of good idea, carbon emissions, obviously bad, not a fan but eliminating completely in 10 years isn't ridiculous it's actually impossible. what would we have to do, i don't want to live like laura ingle's, i don't want to do washing in the basement.

i do my own washing. i'm a woman of the people. neil: i understand. what was she supposed to do. maybe the kids were bullying her. neil: i listened to it a number of times, the reaction has been she's lecturing the kids, she's sounding all high and mighty but she's essentially saying it's not your way or the highway, it does seem to be their way or the highway, what she's saying is i'm for a lot of the goals but we have to find middle ground but that is not really the take you got out of the meeting on it? >> no, it wasn't, and i agree with her point on that and i tell you this green new deal, i don't see anything wrong with eliminating in 10 years, they are destroying the country. it's impossible. [laughter] >> you know what's interesting when we have a whole generation of people who are looking at aoc who do not understand policy,

economic or life in general no wonder why we are hearing rhetoric coming up and i challenge every young person especially those younger than me to think critically for yourself because you have to look on both sides and make concrete decision, that's why it's so important. >> well, look, the reality is we've got an environment right now where people are not having any kind of serious discussion about policy. these are huge complicated issues but to sthaught some won't sign a bill that's only 11 pages long, that isn't comprehensive and then to criticize them for saying, i'm not sure i'm going to do that, that's being ridiculous to me. we may need a green new deal but maybe this is not it. dianne feinstein has been there for a long time, i would like to see someone replace her but she just got reelected.

neil: she reminded the kids of that. what do you think? >> i think that first of all, the kids don't -- i feel that the kids don't really understand the ends and outs of the green new deal and whether or not -- neil: you are taking dianne feinstein's side? neil: fox news alert for that. >> thank you, neil. [laughter] neil: your point, one thing to recommend and another thing to force it. >> you know what, i'm not even so sure, you know, that aoc and some of the children probably on the same level of understanding the green new deal policy. neil: i'm going to dial it back, that's been a big problem, dick durbin looked into this and said it's not doable. >> it sounds nice, it would be great to have puppies and unicorns and everything work out

wonderfully, just wanting something won't make something happen. >> barney frank came on the business network and said it was not -- >> shock a system like that. >> that doesn't take away the fact that we need to do something about it. i think the kids understand it. children will be living with the effects an consequences of climate change. neil: they should be. i understand that, but, i do think there was a certain pushiness and that's fine. it is our way or the highway. we think we should do this. what she's saying there's a process here that some might like and some don't like, some are favorable and others are not, the kids were hearing none of it. this day and age are product of their products, we will only do this, we are not going to do that. >> she came up like she was a teacher and these were students and a lot of them were students,

some of them looked like they were 8 or 9 year's old. in that case you have to teach them what's right and what's wrong. neil: one of them was like my height. [laughter] >> again, this is why when it comes to elected officials, we know that come into office are experience and know what they are doing and not tweet on social media storm and that's how they win, aoc has been great disappoint. and it had such a democrat effect. neil: i call her alexandria ocasio-cortez, congresswoman and there's a reason, there's a reason for that not to lecture kids but she's in the news a lot for something else, over billboards, she's not happy, she wasn't using initials after

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>> so i think it's a big loss, the kind of thinking that the country on the left or the radical left that ultimately it's not good for jobs and it's not good for the economy. neil: the president weighed in on the loss of new york city and the amazon deal, more times scare -- square billboards. joining me now for more on this greatest network president and ceo alfredo ortiz we did reach out to congresswoman and she did not respond but hope spring is eternal. let me ask you, you put this out, of course, she identified you as part of network of billionaires who aren't too happy with the way things are going right now in this new populist push, you say what?

>> well, neil, first of all thank you for having me, i couldn't have asked for a better transition from your panel, it's really about the growing trend of socialism and ideas that don't make sense. neil, i would take 2 seconds to read an e-mail i got literally as i was coming on air that does explain why we are doing this. this is from a supporter, i don't own a small business, i'm just concerned about complete ignorance, basic economic principals exhibited by new young democratic politicians namely aoc, i want to say thank you for your billboards in than- new york city, this is why we are doing what we are doing, neil. the entire way that our country has really been now become envy of the world is all under attack with the socialist movement. neil: you're hearing from democrats in new york state, budget director who cannot

believe that this great opportunity, great 25,000 jobs has gone away now and all because some bickering politicians, we must stress that by in large the folks who run the state -- >> right. neil: i wonder what lessons are here? >> leave to it aoc to bring cuomo, governor cuomo, mayor de blasio and the president together on the issue, which is new york city lost 25,000 jobs, tune of $4 billion of annual loss wages, this is unbelievable, not only bad enough that she basically was the person really pushing for that, she spike it is football, you know, on valentine's day and celebrates this loss. i've never seen anything like it and we have to fight -- neil: it's more than that. i get a little annoyed.

i'm a nerd, i get that, i can live with that, but the state was giving the company billions of dollars in tax credits over 30 years, very different than getting $3 billion in front and we tried to explain people back and forth, the return to the city and the at a time was going to be hue -- humungous and new york lost it. >> neil, that's exactly, that's why i wanted to read the e-mail. it talks about education, that's the thing that's real in the country. iwe have to teach children and residents about basic economic policy and how it impacts on a daily basis, every single day. when you look at the basic, you know, math on this, the bell is

$30 billion, minus 3 billion, you're netting 27 billion, that sounds like a pretty good deal, of course, the president said they could have worked a better deal, it's still a great deal. the one thing that i want to focus is on the loss economic activity for long island and new york. think about all of the different services and businesses that could have helped, that would have gone to support, you know, the headquarters in terms of the pizza guy, the deli shop, shoe shine guy, all small businesses that we represent. 30 million small businesses in the country that hire 60 million people, that's 90 million people that are really depending on success of small business, that's what we are fighting for. we couldn't be more excited about the type of attention this is getting, we need to have the conversation in the country. neil: apparently all cities are clambering out they want -- including senator cory booker. come on.

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susan li, mike murphy and cfra research investment strategists lindsey bell. some aid right now, susan, gets in but not all aid. >> aid from not the u.s. as well. neil: most -- >> i interviewed people in china back in early 2000's and back then, you know, what he was trying to do sell oil to china, those are the big backers of the venezuela regime, china which has loaned $67 billion over the last 5 years, russia, of course, being one of the biggest backers of their oil as well, taking half, 50% stake in one of the biggest refiners, if it comes to china and russia and what they want to look right now and they wanting to head to head with the u.s. in terms of have they selected opposition party, 50 countries have now recognized guaido as legitimate president. neil: russia, china and iran,

you were mentioning earlier, michelle, that you don't expect this to become a big impact, like everyone we are hoping that doesn't happen. >> right, exactly. finding the people that you interviewed and everyone on the network doesn't expect military action from the u.s., they would like to be resolved in diplomatic matter and that won't upset the markets, mike made the point earlier that if you do see fire cross from the u.s. or other countries, that'll be bigger problems for the market, right now the market won't be too concerned. more concerned about the china deal. neil: more promising and what's going on? >> the optimism for china is going on, remember, we had massive selloff in 2018. we have recovered and -- neil: do you think it's still a rich market? >> it's definitely richer 9

weeks ago, i will go on record for that, i think there's a lot of upside in the market. still a lot of opportunity out there. you don't necessarily need to chase certain sectors like industrials that are up almost 20% year to date, you can look of pockets of strength, the big tech haven't come back to full highs, i think they'll need to to get to new highs. neil: investors are optimistic and they are optimistic on china, that's the biggest driving force. >> three main factors priced and they have all to go in there, new interest rate hikes, china deal and corporations still need to make more money than they did last year, so far right now the indications are that they might. but all have been in place. neil: any doubt that that des des -- >> i apologize for breaking news, your ability to seemliness going through.

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>> fox news alert shots fired on venezuela's border, riot police and teargas canisters flying as civilians beg for food and medicine the government forces there will not let in. live images from the border with colombia where there is a standoff between venezuelan troops and aid workers on the colombia side. we have been waiting this showdown for a couple days. mike pence is heading to colombia in the next couple