that's the batman there in full character. bruce wayne one said it's not what i do underneath but what i do that defines me. he s is midnight hero. thanks for watching. we will see you tomorrow. ♪ >> tucker: welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." just a small app is not the first to fake a hate crime. we will take a deep dive into the bizarre trend of fabricated victimhood. there is a reason that they do it. you probably didn't catch the oscars last night, but don't feel bad.s most people miss to the oscars last night. hollywood is now completely irrelevant. more on that just ahead. but first unite, republicans have described ocasio-cortez p s the leader of her party. as the boss of the democratic party. and there is a reason that they are saying that, because she is. and she said so herself in an interview on friday.

watch this. >> come it is unrealistic. it's very good, it doesn't address this little minute t thing. and i'm like you try. [laughs] you do it. because you are not. because you are not. someone tell you do it, i'm the boss. how about that? >> tucker: she's the boss? how did this happen? well, for the last two years, democrats have been very distracted. they've spent all of their time hatingng donald trump. and none of their time thinking about what they would do if they ever took charge as they just did of the congress. so they arrived in washington in january, and they have no idea what to do. lucky for them, someone had a plan. she was a 29-year-old bartender from the bronx, and she showed up with a brand-new democratic platform already written. she posted it on her party. it is called the green new deal. in less than two months, she has

basically convince the entire leadership of the democratic party to buy into this plan, to ratify it. it's a perfect plan. it will shut down the entire american economy except for the hedge funds that fund democratic campaigns. absolutely perfect. there's only one downside. the plan, if enacted, would cause, some estimate, more than the entire global gdp. not of the united states, but the gdp of the world. it's pretty expensive. but it doesn't bother ocasio-cortez at all. she doesn't care. listen to her describe her reaction to the bean counters description that this is too expensive. this is what she says. >> our planet is in disaster. if we don't turn this ship around. and so it's basically like there is scientific consensus that a lot of children, their lives are going to be very difficult. it does lead young people i

think to have a legitimate question. is it okay to still have children? >> tucker: is it okay to still have children? well, i don't know, alexandria. can we?on you are the boss. if you say we can't, we want. it's your call. my gosh. it's a measure of how cowardly and passive everyone has become. until this idiotic windbag to be quiet and to take a seat. don't say anything until you learn something.ea but of course, nobody has done. that. they are all too afraid of her. what you are watching is in politics. it's an army of time may of tiny combatants marching off an oversize clothes into an unknown, puffed up with a grid self-righteousness. lastly, activists showed up to harass dianne feinstein for the crime of not endorsing the green new deal. watch. >> some scientists have said that we have 12 years to turn

this around. >>en well, it's not going to get turned around in ten i years. >>d if this doesn't get turned around in ten years, you are looking at the faces of the people who are going to be living with it. >> the government is supposed to be for the people and by peopleg >> you know it's interesting about this group is that i've been doing this for 30 years. i know what i'm doing. you come in here, and you say it has to be my way or the highway. i don't respond to that. >> if you don't take full transformative action, it's not going to be what we need. >> well, you know better than i do, so i think one day you should run for the senate. >> tucker: you almost feel the for dianne feinstein. this is not s the politics that she enjoys. when dianne feinstein became a senator, that they were still sort of tethered to reality.

they wanted a secure border. dianne feinstein made that case herself. they said they wanted abortion to be legal, but they also wanted to be rare. they never told you not to have children. dianne feinstein is 85 now. she is not the future of the democratic party. ocasio-cortez is the future. she is absolutely right. she is the boss. josh holmes is a former chief of staff and campaign manager for mitch mcconnell. he was recently accused by ocasio-cortez of running an "multimillion dollar operation to have accounts built for online discourse. there is no evidence. later deleted the tweet. josh holmes joins us tonight. thanks very much for coming on.e >> thank you. >> tucker: in your experience with ocasio-cortez, where does the-c idea of the multimillion dollar platform come from? >> your guess is as good as mine. i would love to know the fever

swamps at this conspiracy came from. i am afraid i will probably never know. it actually touches upon your lead-in. she is so uncomfortable with the idea that there are people who disagree with her. so uncomfortable with the idea that there are conservatives walking the planet, that the idea that there is any traffic online, anybody who could disagree with the green new deal, certainly must be bought and paid for and totally corrupted by some republican out there like me. >> tucker: this is kind of what democrats deserve, though, after spending two years not mentioning what they might be for. an affirmative case of their views. a program for americans. she just filled the void. >> i am glad that you are covering this. it is really easy to look at some of these people, espousing the absolutely crazy views that she is spouting. i mean, i don't know what's going on. but what she's coming up with is crazy.

but it's not that crazy in the context of the democratic party because as you saw, she rolls out the green new deal, and the next thing you know, we've got 2020 candidates that are all of a sudden coming out in favor of banning cows. this kind of lunacy is nowif becoming mainstream in democratic politics. and if we don't take it seriously, i'll be darned if we don't wake up at half the country will be endorsing this. >> tucker: i think that's exactly right. it's foolish to sit back and just laugh. oh, how stupid this is. if she were 35, i think she could be president.he i am struck by how easy it was for her to take over the democratic party. no resistance. nobody has been brave enough. even senator dianne feinstein is 85. what does she care? no one has said you are arrogant and dumb, please be quiet. why will no one say that? >> i i think you've got a combination of problems. you have seen the leadership in the democratic party.

largely confined, so out of touch with the american people for so long. the base of the democratic party is looking for something new. she seen that, and she is trying to drive this wedge that started developing in the sanders campaign, honestly. almost a generational battle behin her party. the difference is what she has come up with, and the views that she is espousing are incredibly dangerous. restructuring the economy, tearing down every building in america and replacing it with some new green dream. at $90 deal. here's the problem. they are all t saying that theye going to vote for, right? i'm glad mitch mcconnell is going to put the sucker on the floor. we can see the 2020 democrats come down. president you know darn well when they get to ohio, they are not going to want to be part of this. >> tucker: it's a pure democratic takeover of the u.s. economy. it's just so interesting.

you worked in the senate. there must be democratic senators who think that this is unwise and dangerous to their party. why are they saying anything? >> absolutely. well, you saw with dianne feinstein why they are not. you saw someone who dared to question the idea that we don't ruin the entire american economy, and she is shouted down by a bunch of children. by the way, there were calls all over california for her to resign from that. this is the modern-day democratic party. i saw it personally. if they dare question this, they will be shouted down by her 3 million followers online. facts to be darned. they are going to absolutely attack no matter what. it's a really dangerous place for the democrats who have any sort of wherewithal these days. >> tucker: thanks for that. that was smart and interesting. well, democratic presidential candidates claim that climate

change is an existential threat to all humanity. a matter of life and death for every person on this planet. nothing less than that. >> climate change is real, is an existential threat to our country and the entire planet. the biggest threat to our prosperity inn this 21st century is climate change. >> if we don't have the bravery under the courage and to the heart and the determination to take it on as the most important challenge of our lifetime, then we don't care about the children. >> climate change is an existential threat to us as human beings. >> the threat is real, and it is existential. we need to take action now. >> tucker: so they say it a lot. they demands that you repeated, they require that you believe it. they attack you if you don't. any evidence without makes you look like a denier. but do they themselves believe it? that is an interesting question. when he was campaigning, bernie sanders repeatedly

demanded private jet action done mike access for and his entourage. over the past three years, sanders has spent almost $350,000 on private flights. how can you justify that if you believe the world is ending because of climate change? adam greene is cofounder of the progressive change committee. thanks for coming on. >> thank you. >> tucker: so it's really simple. if you say you believe that carbon emissions are destroying the planet and making it impossible for people to live here, people shouldn't have kids because this threat is so imminent and profound, how could you possibly ever under any circumstances fly on a private aircraft? >> tucker, i've seen you make enough good arguments to not really think that.n, bernie sanders -- >> tucker: why don't you explain why it's wrong? just >> just like you wouldn't blame it your viewers who aspire for a better job in the future

for going to work every day, you can't blame bernie sanders for supporting a world with less can emissions, but taking a plane now. they are not an contrast with each other. >> tucker: taking a private -- you are misrepresenting what i said. taking a private plane. you know the numbers on carbon emissions per passenger, private versus commercial. there is almost nothing you can do to cause a bigger carbon footprint than to fly private. so come on. don't t b.s. me. it don't make excuses. hold into the standard. why are you giving him a pass? >> i have seen you tear down people for making b.s. arguments. this is not the strongest argument. >> tucker: what is b.s. about this? you guys don't believe what we are saying.er you want to take over the u.s. economy. you don't believe this is a crisis. >> tucker, between 2017 and

2018, there was one nine-day spirit where he went on a 92 are coming, and for the rest of the tour, he went commercial. this is not a real issue. >> tucker: why would he do that at all. this a is a moral issue. you have framed it not as a matter of science, it is moral. why in the world would you do this? is this not a big deal? >> what would be hypocritical? if you believe that democrats were going to pass things, that save the world. in the final nine months, or nine weeks. nine days. you are basically saying that -- i don't know how many he has. okay, so what's your point? >> tucker: my point is that if you believe that carbon emissions are destroying the earth, that's too many houses, too much consumption. you lead by example. the people who are trying to control my life and tell me what i can do and can't do and how

many kids i can have, they don't bother to restrain themselves. >> that is silly. it is fake. you are saying if you believe that facebook has bad privacy policies, you shouldn't check facebook every day. >> tucker: no, i am saying -- >> have a better economy. tens of millions of jobs, of course he should do everything he campaigned for fightea for te green new deal. >> tucker: no, it's really simple. yes, yes -- you just said yes. >> that shows that it is a b.s. argument. >> tucker: okay. you are making excuses because all you want is power. >> i'm not. tucker, i have seen you make better arguments. >> tucker: you are exposing that anybody -- >> anybody who takes a plain ---

>> tucker: you just said he should walk from vermont to d.c. >> obviously, you don't believe that. he believes in tens of millions and new job and a clean energy economy. what is wrong with that? >> tucker: this is idiotic, what you are saying. >> you said yes if he should walk. come on. not a real argument. >> tucker: you got me. thanks so much. i appreciate it. pictures on the screen. kim jong un's train pulling in. into vietnam, and we are going to check in with ed henry on that in just a second. the president of course meeting there for a summit to discuss the future of the korean peninsula. we will be back in just a momen moment.

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>> before his fraud was exposed. >> tucker: both for his was exposed, jussie smollett supporters claimed that he was the victim of modern day lynching. she was completely incompetent. he paid by check, for example, butde if he hadn't been, he woud still be considered a victim. he would be a hero because victimhood is power.

justin fairfax, meanwhile, has certainly learned that lesson.ti accused of sexually assaulting two separate women in the early 2,000. instead of simply defending himself against the charges, fairfax is taking the offensive, by becoming offended. he is a victim too. therefore holy ande away. he said yesterday in his speech, it's like trying to lynch someone more than a century ago. watch this. >> i've heard much about antilynching on the floor of this very senate. where people were not given any due process whatsoever, yet we stand here in our rush to judgment. nothing but accusations and no facts. and we decide that we are willing to do the same thing. >> tucker: it's really a lot like lynching. now under normal circumstances, anyone who said something like thats would be left off the stage, but it's 2019, and the cult of victimhoodig is at its

peak, so it might actually work. we have seen feminist groups that hounded brett kavanaugh for weeks but barely said anything about fairfax as well. now they won't say anything. watch. we warned you last week that jussie smollett did not invent hate crimes. they have actually become alarmingly common. the overwhelming majority of so-called hate crimes that receive national attention turned out to be false, at least the ones that we check. another one came out in jackson michigan. the home of nikki jolley burned down. a horrible fire. killed all five of his pets. at first the fire was considered a hate crime. no police say he is the one who started the fire. according to his friends, he was upset that a recent parade had not -- hatred had to be created. so, he is a sociologist and the

author of the book "the rise of victimhood culture." thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me. >> tucker: t are you surprised by this? it seems that our society has created pretty strong incentive to create fake hate crimes. >> i am not surprised by it. i have been interested in hate crime hoaxes for a long time now. and i have been following them. it is not of course that hate crimes, they are a problem. but it is interesting that so many of the cases that get public attention and media attention do turn out to be hoaxes. and i first started seeing these things mainly on college campuses. now with the jussie smollett case, that turns out to be with the police are alleging, this will be the most famous hate crime hoaxes, and obviously, not on a college campus. so it t seems that some of the

cultural things that are enabling hate crime hoaxes, enabling their success may be spreading from college campuses to other areas of society. and i don'tng think it's not surprising. people lie about all kinds of things. there are all kinds of hoaxes, con artist scams.il things like that. people will lie when it benefits them to do so. some people will, not all people, but some people will, and then the lights will be believed. we have to understand what is the context in which it can provide some kind of benefit in which they are believed? if people are given a kind of status of victimhood, that is what my coauthor and i argue in our book. i knew victimhood culture is arising.es first on college campuses, and beginning to spread elsewhere where victimhood came to a kind of status. if you are perceived as a victim of oppression, you are treated differently. you should have a different kind of credibility. so when people make claims about

oppression,, then often it is thought that there is a moral imperative to believe them. i make these kinds of hoaxes more successful. and p also provides people, attract sympathy, fame, support. my to give them individual benefits, and also help them advance to political power. >> tucker: you. grotesque. and sad. and we are going to see more of it. for exactly the reasons that you just outlined. thank you very much. kim jong un on of north vietnam is arriving in vietnam by train. maybe not surprisingly. he joins us now. hey, ed. >> tucker, good to see you. one of the many reasons he is such a complicated negotiating partner, the level of mystery around his every move. it is a state secret, for example, which hotel he is going to be staying at here. there are of course legitimate

security concerns, but north koreans are especially paranoid because of the hold on power. there were decoy planes that left pyongyang when he came to singapore some months ago. that was a decrease -- he travels with his own toilet. assumedly not kept in the overhead toilet. his portable potty has a purpose. he does not want intel agencies to get a stool sample that would give the u.s. and others clues about his health, his longevity. power.d on he is also scared about being poisoned, so he travels with his own food. i have a source that was in the room. back in singapore. they checked the plates after all of they left. all of the american plates were basically clean. they heading.ly every single north korean plate, i was told, was totally full. untouched.

they apparently did not trust the food. they were worried about poison or something else. so what we know about kim this time, he has been on that yellow and greenn train. it was tuesday roughly two hour truck. retracing the journey of his grandfather. that train is of course armoredt but it may not just be about family ties. his jet is old soviet era technology. his pilots are not that experienced. so he borrowed a jet from the chinese, for example, to get to singapore last year. >> tucker: it's really out of another time. ed henry.. thanks. meanwhile, the release of the mueller report could be just days away. not sure if it is accurate or not, but we believe that the

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♪ >> tucker: how dangerous is paul manafor >> tucker: how dangerous is paul manafort? very dangerous, apparently. the upcoming sentencing hearing, the mueller investigation is more than 800 pages long. it's a good thing, says msnbc, because all men for needs to go away for a long time. national security and public security are at risk. >> there is such a wealth of information about paul manafort that i don't think we need the mueller report to see that information. what we need our indictments. we need people like manafort tod be put behind bars as a matter of national security and public safety. >> tucker: behind bars for

life. lobbying for the ukrainians makes you dangerous, but if that's the case, why is tony podesta still free? we will be waiting a long time to find an answer to that. meanwhile, the mueller investigation itself could be ending very soon. it iss still unclear if the finl report will be made public. adam schiff says the legal challenge is inevitable. >> well, we will obviously subpoena the report. we will bring popular and to testify before congress. we will take it to court if necessary. i think there will be immense pressure not only on the department but on the attorney general to be forthcoming. >> talking about public pressure to take the administration to court? >> absolutely. we are going to get to the bottom of this. and if the president is serious about all of his claims of exoneration, then he could tell i should welcome the publication of this report. >> tucker: an attorney andd former advisor to bill and

hillary clinton. richard, thanks for coming on. let me ask you a macro question. cl of the russia stuff, manafort, trump, it's completely dominated the conversation for two years. occupied all of the space of the democratic party. what hasn't happened is any kind of democratic programming getting created or explained it to the public. into that vacuum comes out senator harris ocasio-cortez. it basically takes over your party. i know that deep down you don't like that because she must be a lunatic. i know you think that. looking back, wouldn't it have been smarter to run the party like a real political party instead of wasting all of this time with the russian nonsense? speaker democrats picked up 40 seats and won the national vote by eight or 9%, tucker. it has a zero to do with anything that alexandria ocasio-cortez said last fall. it was because of health care and because of disgust with donald trump and the need to

have a check on him to a democratic house. that's why we won. infrastructure, doing things about health care. donald trump said in the state of the union he wants to do, that is what democrats campaigned on. >> tucker: that was the plan, and because there was no actual plan, ocasio-cortez came in, wrote a new platform for you guys, is now holding you hostage. i just wanted to run that by a you. i want to ask you about manafor manafort. now the average rapist in this country gets 8-9 years. do you think that what he did is twice as bad as rape? >>'t dick cheney said that what the russians did was an act of war. the campaign chairman to donald trump, he met the campaign chairman with russian spy, gave him the inside polling data. here's where l we need help. which led the russians to mount a campaign that very

specifically targeted the very places that manafort told him. >> tucker: wait, wait.no is he being charged with that? no, he is not. nobody does that in washington. i'm sure half the people that you know and i know. i'm just wondering like you know every lobbyist in d.c. he is probably one of the sleaziest, i would think, manafort. i doubt he's the sleaziest. i mean, can we be real here? >> here is where you and i disagree.. i think it, and i think the public thinks that deserving the sanctity of the united states democracy actually matters a lo lot. and paul manafort took steps to undermine that with the coots of who in the campaign? we don't know. we do know that don jr. and a jared kushner and all of these people lied about their contact with russia. >> tucker: he hasn't been charged with any of that. it definitely happened, why haven't we charged him?

>> we will have to wait for the report. >> tucker: no, but wait. okay. all right. he's getting a life of four like what everyone in our city does. >> defrauding people, bank fraud. every lobbyist it doesn't do that. >> tucker: fine, iug agree. richard, good to see you. >> all right, take care. democrats use to have a nuanced views on gum stomach guns. now, pushing the government's position before you can give a gun to your friends or to your kids. it t is not going to make anythg safer. you know what the point is. control. coming up next.

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>> tucker: fox news alert the state departm >> tucker: fox news alert for the u.s. state department says that a new scene from univision has been detained against his will in venezuela.

he is a frequent guest on this program. traveled to caracas to interview the present. they asked a question that the president didn't like. and they were held. i think they are still held. the state department says that they have demanded the team's immediate release. we will continue to monitorto te story as it continues. just a decade ago, it was possible to still find pro-gun democrats. kristen gillibrand claimed to be one of them. now, they are dominated byis anti-gun zealotry. would mandate background checks for all gun transfers. loan your gun to the nephew, sell one to your best friend, it could be a crime. if it presses. he is all firearms attorney. he joins us now. when they say background checks for all gun transfers, what does that cover? >> well, background checks

already happen at every single transaction in a gun shop or gun dealers. they are saying all transactions, they are trying to include private sales that might happen between residents of the same state. sobe for example, friends of selling each other guns or things like that. >> tucker: so that would basically ban if i'm hunting with a friend or matter gun range, i need the government's permission before any transfer takes place at all?ke >> that's a good question. >> tucker: is there any evidence -- >> they actually put an exemption in the bill for that. my immediate comeback is always what about what you just brought up? what about somebody who might bt suicidal? they ask their friends to take they guns from them. they came out with exemptions in the bill, but the problem that i have is that it is entirely too burdensome on gun dealers, individuals. i think it's the federal government sticking its nose in what might be states rights

issuet. >> tucker: is there any evidence that this would prevent mass shootings? have we seen a spate of mass shootings where people avoided background checks? i don't think this is from what i can tell a driving factor in mass killings, is it? >> you're absolutely right. the federal law says that any transfer of guns has to go through a gun dealer, and any h sale comes with a background check. we have almost half of the states in our country, 20 states have extra restrictions that already require universal background checks. some of the states have already had the mass shootings. connecticut, for example, there is nothing to stop newtown. i would look at the 12 biggest mass shootings that we have had since the federal background check went into place. not a single one of them was prevented.

parkland, newtown, san bernardino, fort hood. the orlando nightclub shooting, aurora movie theater. las vegas.ca every single one of these cases, the shooter, the murderer, the person that is to blame, bought the gun, passed a background check. and only a couple of those, they have somebody else by the gun for them to completely circumvent the process, which means they would have done nothing to stop these past 12. >> tucker: then why do conservatives play along with this game? democrats say we want to make the country safer, we want gun regulation. they make no attempt to disarm the criminals. no attempt to tailor the laws and focus on the people actually committing thehe crimes. they are trying to disarm the population. they don't want middle america to have guns. why don't we just say that allmo that? >> maybe they should. we have one thing in common with every mass shooting. one thing in common. you have one evil person or more that is intent on killing other

people. the tool can change one way or the other. that seems to be the focus. but the problem is -- this is a maxim. every single call for gun tr control is also an admission that gun control doesn't work. because every time we try to add a new gun law, we have to ignore the fact that although gun laws and all the facts that have already come out, didn't stop the person, having a gun on a school zone, it didn't stop it, so by asking for something more, you have to admit that gun laws don't work. >> tucker: so maybe people who believe in the second amendment should resist in some way and say look, i see what you were doing. you want to take my guns away because he want to control me. let's stop playing along with this.th actually, the number say they don't care what the numbers show. they don't care what you say. they want to take your guns awao from you. >> it's true. the first step to confiscation his registration. i don't say that is necessarily

going to happen, but it gets me scared. i understand after these mass shootings, horrible incidents that peoplee want to do something. i want to do something. i believe you want to do something, but banning guns as i'm to work. you and i and people on our side of the aisle here, just a saying that the laws won't work, not offering an alternative, a solution, it might be part of thee problem. a little over a year ago, some of my special operations veterans and i, technology, smartphones, dashboards, system so that schools and churches can communicate and track where people are, get the help where it's needed. that is something that is a practical solution. i encouraged the gun community not only to resist and fight back, not only to say that the wlaws won't work, but don't stop there. >> tucker: i think that's great. i think you're absolutely right. all right, thank you very much.

>> thanks for having me on, tucker. >> tucker: the oscars didn't have a host last night, but it was the same thing that we have expected to expect by now. does anybody still happen to care about what happens at the oscars? stay tuned

♪ >> tucker: the oscars were last night, in case you had anything at all better to do, and you missed it like so many other people, this year there was no host. kevin hart was supposed to be s the host but he was fired for a thought crime that he committed nearly a decade ago. the scene was nearly the same with celebrities seizing their chance to spout banal political messages to the dwindling part of the country that actually cares what they think.k. a few decades ago, the oscars was a pretty big deal, huge ratings on television. it might be irrelevant but it certainly eye-opening. we talked to someone who watched last night.

>> as i'm sure you saw, it took a political and anti-trump turn, i know that is shocking to you. 29.6 million people tuned in and everyone is lauding this ratings increase but what is not talked about is that still the second worst rated oscars in history. last year was the worst they had ever seen. so let me take you through the political nonsense that we saw last night. let's start with spike lee talking about a mobilization for 2020. >> 2020 presidential election is around the corner. [applause] let's all mobilize and be on the right side of history. make the moral choice between love versus hate. let's do the right thing! you know i had to get that in there.e. >> he was not alone. you also had after javier barde

bardem, piling on, going after president trump's immigration policy. listen to this. >> [speaking in foreign language] >> here is also chef jose andres piling on as well. >> one that gives the voice to the voiceless, reminds us of the understanding and compassion that we are owed to the people before us in our lives. immigrants and women who move humanity forward. [cheers and applause] >> so tucker, as you can see now, there were lots of swipes at the president. you would think at some point they would realize that alienating 63 million americans might not be the best ratings player, or the fact that americans don't want to be lectured to by a bunch of smug hypocrites. >> tucker: i don't know how people can stay mad that long. [laughter] i forget what i'm mad at. they have amazing, persistent anger, i would say. >> we can't have anything nice anymore, everything is poisoned

by politics. i just want to have a good time and watch something fun but everything has to be poisoned. e >> tucker: that means you are immoral. thank you. i appreciated. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: author and columnist mark steyn was also watching last night enjoins us pray to got to say, the hollywood people, they do care deeply. wouldn't you say, much more deeply than a person like you cares? >> they do. they care. that was the message. they cared at length. that guy you had on saying that movies give a voice to the voiceless, i have to laugh. they did that all night long, they said movies give a voice to the voiceless shortly before they cut off the microphone of the best sound editing guy because his cowinner has gone long on her speech. so it was literally hypocritical. lisa said she just wanted to have fun. a few decades ago, the oscars shows where a big deal and they were conventional shows of that type.

they've gotten rid ofwe everything, they got rid of the song and dance and the jokes, they got rid of the hosts. they got rid of the gowns. the gowns were frumpy last night except for billy porter in, what did he call it, a tuxedo drress. that was the only time i felt the ruffle of taffeta. he was the only one i would have asked to dance with in the post-oscar ball. they got rid of the think use of to harvey weinstein, which constituted 40% of the oscar time. and all that left was this pious earnest virtue signaling, which i think they think because they bottomed out and got a little uptick in the audience, they in fact have a core audience that doesn't want fun, to go back to lisa's word, which is much more comfortable with its pious, earnest, boring virtue

signaling. happy just to stick with that for its own sake because for some reason it makes them feel good. >> tucker: do they -- hollywood in some ways it's over, it's diminishing in its power and its reach, that technology has been surpassed by others. i wonder if they are going through the motions. this is what you have to say if you are a director or actor, you have to make these noises. do you think they still believe them? >> i think spike lee. certainly does. he the green room or green door, and i think most of the other people are reading glassy eyed from the telephone, and one thing is, that's awful prompter readers. the world's greatest actors and actresses can play any role on the planet but they can't read a

dull piece of prose about giving voice to the voiceless and put any life in it. they are awful prompter readers. he would clean up at the oscars for best prompter reader, tucker, way ahead of julia roberts or any of these others. they just can't do it. so i think they are just going through the motions and they are doing it because this is just part of what it means to be an actor. 20 years ago, you had to give harvey weinstein a back rub when he esky up to his hotel room. now you just have to genuflect to transgender rights or whatever is this years fashion. they are just doing y what they need to do to keep themselves i arc. >> tucker: did anybody say anything artistic, which is to say, unexpected, interesting, against the grain, radical, or was it all just approved thoughts? >> it was approved thoughts. again, we go back to lisa's word, phone, what was interesting to me was that there was no sense of weight or charm or even any sense of joy or

pleasure in the event. that was what was palpable almost, even when you listened to someone like spike lee. you saw sins of a grievance, a guy getting a statuette for making a movie, and he somehow feels obliged to talk about americans of its, native people, a sort of -- if you seriously believe it's, it's actually trivializing of that to connect it to you getting some kind of crummy award for best adapted screenplay. i don't think there is anything serious about this. they've taken out all the joy, all the charm, all the wit, all the fun, and they haven't had fd anything to put in its place. >> tucker: wow. they lost the power even to offend me. [laughs] that's how bad it is. >> i should do eight bars of "hurray for hollywood" like the old days but we don't have that

anymore. >> tucker: [laughs] mark steyn, great to see you, thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: will be back tomorrow, that is a sworn enemy of lying, pomposity and groupthink. live from new york -- rather come alive from vietnam, its sean hannity. >> sean: you don't keep track of my schedule? i'd recap of your schedule. wait until you see what just happened. keep watching the monster for a minute. yes, we are broadcasting live from hanoi, we are in vietnam. it is currently 9:00 a.m. in the morning, of course, 9:00 p.m. in the nation's capital, 12 hour time difference. kim jong un just a short time ago arrived and traffic on the streets of hanoi was awful. so i leave my hotel. oh, 7:15 a.m. in the morning here. only 15 minute drive. after literally 40 minutes not moving, we are getting nervous about getting on the air.