>> ♪ >> ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." the north korea summit ended early. the president rejected north's negotiations as unacceptable and bad for the united states. is that good or bad? and then democratic presidential candidate tulsi gabbard has been expelled from her party. her crime? opposing war. happy to talk to her on this show. first, michael cohen spent a decade as trump's high-profile lobbyer, and defender and personal attorney. one day he decided he hated

donald trump and became his mortal enemy. how did that happen? cohen told congress he was personally and is morally offended by what his boss said on two occasions. later when he watched trump's meeting with vladimir putin. that changed michael cohen's mind forever. democrats must have been gratifyed to hear that. michael cohen is a sensitive, progressive now. tormented by climate change. a one man crusade against privilege. he is a new man. that's his story. now comes the daily mail piece that puts a different gloss on it. just weeks before the fbi raided his offices last summer, michael cohen was shopping a book proposal. cohen professes love and

admiration for donald trump and defends the president against claims he is crazy, dumb, in over his head or a liar, all claims cohen made this week before congress. michael cohen is not a reliable narrator. but he is the narrator the democrats have chosen. they brought him to capitol hill to prove the russian conspiracy true. he didn't. he demolished. let's start with the claim that cohen held secret meetings with russians in prague to steal the election. on its face it sounds nuts but they have been telling you that. >> robert mueller has evidence that trump's personal lawyer and

fixer michael cohen made a late summer trip to prague during the 2016 presidential campaign. confirmation of the trip was confirmed from the steele dossier. >> i hear there were reports mr. cohen was in prague, there is more and more indications that there is something here that is far, far from being anything near a witch hunt. >> tucker: that was john brennan. he was the head of the cia. as you just saw, he claimed to believe that. cohen went to prague. it's the perfect conspiracy. but michael cohen has never been to prague and testified about that yesterday. >> you have ever been to prague? >> i never been to prague or the czech republic.

>> tucker: how frustrating it must have been for schiff to hear that. this was where cohen was supposed to admit swiping micro-film with vladimir putin. how about the claim that vladimir putin's agents have video of donald trump cavorting with hookers and that's how they black mailed trump to say nice things about russia. >> the steele dossier said russia has dirt on the president of the united states exposing the president to blackmail. >> there is a very real possibility that president putin holds damaging information over president trump. >> what do the russians have on

donald trump? politically, personally or financially? >> tucker: okay. if there is a hooker tape out there, it's fair to assume that michael cohen would know about it. he is that kind of guy. now would be the time he would tell us all about it. but no. >> are you aware of anything the president has done at home or abroad to subject him to extortion or blackmail? >> no. >> are you aware of any videotapes that might be the subject of extortion or blackmail? >> i have heard about these tapes for along time. i had many people contact me over the years. i have no reason to believe that tape exists. >> tucker: damn, he did it again. instead of confirming the russian conspiracy that controlled american politics for more than 2 years, michael cohen refuted it.

this is frustrating. where do we get the part where he blows the russia case wide open and they lead big orange away in handcuffs and hillary clinton can be the president. let's ask him directly. it's almost a rhetorical question. democrats are certain it happened. >> i think there is plenty of evidence of collusion in plain sight. >> trump has the kremlin klan surrounding him. there is more to be learned about it. i believe there has been collusion. >> it's smelling more and more like collusion. >> we saw cold, hard evidence of the trump camp pain and the trump family intending to collude, possibly, with russia. >> tucker: these people. plenty of evidence. cold, hard evidence! if anyone can provide that kind

of evidence, it would be michael cohen. he was a personal attorney to a man who accepted rubles. so what is the answer. >> based on what you know, did mr. trump lie about colluding and according with the russian at this point during the campaign? >> as i stated in my testimony, i would not use the word "colluding." was there something odd about the back and forth praise with the president putin? yes. but i am not really sure that i can answer that question in terms of collusion. >> tucker: the balloon just deflated. talk about a let down.

no meeting in prague. no russian conspiracy is. it was a hoax. you have to feel silly right now if you ever believed any of this. we have one last idea. there is still a way michael cohen could send donald trump to prison even without russia. what if cohen confirmed that trump told him to lie to congress. that would be obstruction of justice. that would be a crime. buzz feed ran a story alleging that happened. buzz feed is run by unhappy people in brooklyn. maybe there is something this. cable news was convinced. >> it would be a bombshell information. >> a bombshell report. >> a bombshell report. >> if this is true. >> tucker: the latest bombshell.

our last open to end this presidency and return to the status quo of 2020. our hopes are on you michael cohen it happen? the reveal. >> you lied to congressional committees, is that correct? >> previously. >> correct. >> yes, sir. >> you stated that trump never directed you to lie to congress, is that correct? >> that's correct. >> tucker: 4 for 4. game, set, match. the trump presidency continues. other team looks despondent. you could hear weeping from the press box. what about all of the lies you just heard, not from cohen from the others. blackmail and collusion and russia, russia, russia! are any of the liars going to be punished for lying? will anybody lose a job or reputation? maybe what happened to carter

page? any penalty for being dishonest for 2 solid years and misleading the public in the service of a political agenda, the democratic party? is a single person going to concede what just happened much less apologize for it? of course not, it's washington. mollie hemmingway is watching. a senior editor at the federalist. the key witness shot down this conspiracy. >> it's been several years of this being a daily drum pete. news outlets fed this conspiracy theory about russia. -- it came down to michael cohen. even at this late date people

thought he was the linchpin and he was. he had all of the information. the only way yesterday's hearing make sense was if they were trying to interrogate this russian collusion theory. it's not seamly to have congressal investigators with an attorney-client privilege. you don't hear people realizing what happened. >> tucker: when they raided his office, i remember thinking, if someone raided my lawyer's office or tortured my wife, this is an intimate person in trump's life. he doesn't have the goods and they have all of this documents. then where could be the evidence be if michael cohen doesn't have

it? >> they say the real evidence is just around the bend. the russian collusion fell apart in front of everybody's eyes. that doesn't mean they will stop trying to unseat this person from his real crime, defeating hillary clinton in the 2016 elections. people who fall for conspiracy theories are not held accou accountable. too few people around. >> tucker: we tried to take it seriously. weird things happen. there was never any evidence. >> while there is no russian collusion or no evidence, there is evidence of people buying wholesale into a democratic research product and weaponizing it at the highest level of our federal government. to restore trust, american people need to have trust in our

law enforcement. >> tucker: they are good people. who are we to judge? nice to see you. coming up a former chief counsel julian epstein joins us. we should concede that michael cohen would know a lot about donald trump. his right-hand guy and personal lawyer. the fbi has all of his documents. he has publicly stated about a man he hates, donald trump. that none of these threats and the russian conspiracy are true. shouldn't we pause and say i'm sorry for repeating something is untrue. >> i think we should concede that. i largely agree that michael cohen would have reason to have a lot of information if there was a trump superior with the russians. he didn't provide any new information about. that i said for over a year now

that there is no evidence that president trump conspired to violent with the russians to violate criminal laws. so few networks give the basic balance. while i think there is no evidence that trump conspired to violate criminal laws relating to the russian election interference, there are other things still worth investigating. michael cohen is not the last word. the fat lady has not sung. we should see what the mueller report says. trump's campaign manager was sharing polling information with the russian intelligence agency and his son took meetings with ru russian surrogates wants to

spread information on hillary clinton. i think there are things still worth looking at. >> tucker: i don't know if that's true or not. it might be semi-true. we know that hillary clinton campaign paid someone to talk to russian intelligence about donald trump. look, it's a presidential campaign. people get information. as a reporter, i have gotten good information from people. i am not ashamed of that. >> no, no, i think you are wrong on that. the crime came in was not getting opposition research. the crime was on the election hacking and the election -- the computer fraud law says if you break into someone's computer and cause it to be desiminated you violate criminal law. if you coordinate with a foreign

entity on a social media dis-information campaign which people suspect manafort was doing, that's also a violation of the law. >> tucker: i am trying not to spell out the word bs on tv. we have had parallel investigations from different agencies and the independent counsel. people have been charged with a bunch of different things but nothing like that. maybe we should have concede it didn't happen or someone would have been, maybe. >> well, that's semi-true. the russians have been accused of that. the russians, mueller indicted a dozen russians. >> tucker: but they are russians and will never come to trial. of course they are doing that. >> that was for computer fraud

and defrauding the united states. the question is, when manafort was meeting with russian intelligence agents or donald trump junior was meeting at trump tower with russian intelligence agents was there something? >> tucker: we have had the largest investigation in my lifetime of a politician take place and the charges are like you didn't register? that's a bs charge. nobody does. will there be a collusion charge or not? if not, why not apologize to us? >> i wish people would stop using the world collusion. the question for impeachment at the top of everyone's mind is whether the president conspired with the russian to violate the law. i sit on this network and other

networks. there is no evidence of that. -- said. that's the holy grail. if we don't have get evidence of that, i think impeachment will be dead in his tracks. >> tucker: i hope people apologize. >> we went through this 20 years ago with clinton. >> tucker: i know. >> vince foster was not really a suicide. what about whitewater? on the receiving end there is a lot of unfairness. >> tucker: all right, we are out of time! great to see you. thank you. the president's north korea summit ended without a deal. is that good or bad for the united states? and what comes next? that's after the break. i'm a fighter. always have been.

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your assessment now? >> i still have high hopes. the bottom line is we are not at war with north korea. that's the most important thing. some people will say that's low expectations. let me tell you a quick story. in 2017 a looked at what would happen in there was a nuclear war with north korea in 2020. you know what happened? 8 million people died. the computer broke. the thing is we need to understand the most important thing with north korea we need to have is peace. let's face it, a lot of countries have nuclear weapons. kim jong-un knows if he uses nuclear weapons he is dead. we need a more realistic expectation about what is going on with north korea.

our threat perceptions are out of whack. we need to be more realistic. >> tucker: we pressured gaddafi to get rid of his stock piles. he did that. once he did that hillary clinton and the obama administration had him killed. that send the wrong message to people we are trying to get to disarm? >> exactly. regime change is a foolish policy. we saw what happened in 2017. everybody was calling for a regime change in north korea. do a bloody strike. do you know how many armaments north korea have. as many as 60 nuclear weapons and millions of people would be dead. we need to start a dialogue with north korea. how will you convince kim jong-un to disarm if you are at war with him. the most important thing is

this. put the actually nuclear disarmament at the end of the process. start with some sort of relationship. that's just being realistic. >> tucker: harry, thank you very much. more on the hanoi summit. we will sit down with the democratic presidential candidate tulsi gabbard and sean hannity interviewing the president himself. green new deal becoming policy in the democratic party. we will talk to one environmentists, a professional, who says wind and solar actually don't work. i will explain after the break.

>> tucker: live pictures for you there. joint base andrews right outside the city of washington, d.c. that's the president of the united states returning from his trip to the northern part of vietnam, hanoi. the summit with the north korea leader kim jong-un ended adroppedly. -- abruptly and he flew home. back in this country the green new deal almost overnight has taken over the environmental agenda is the democratic party. alexandria ocasio-cortez said we

need to ground our planes and stop having kids for the sake of the planet and need to stop eating hamburgers. although her chief of staff was caught downing one for dinner the other night. if we went to wind and solar, would that fix the problems we need to fix? michael has spent many years looking at this and doesn't think so. he is the president of environmental progress. you wrote a piece they thought was really smart and interesting. i recommend it to everyone watching because of the level of scientific details in it. it's about wind and solar. the claim that we could shift the grid to rely on wind and solar overnight and be okay. you say that's not possible. >> yes, i was one of the founders of the original green bill in 2003 to 2007.

president obama we spent 150-billion dollars on renewables and kept encountering the same problems everywhere that were related to the unreliability of solar and wind. depending on when the sun is shining and the wind is blowing. and the low energy density of sunlight dollar wind. -- and wind. you have to use a lot more natural resources including land to generate very much electricity. >> tucker: so it's not good for the environment. then you point to another form of energy that has a reputation, nuclear. >> yes. we were in the process of trying to figure out how to deal with things like climate change or

air pollution. we had a number of friends who said what about nuclear? we were like well, nuclear is scary and have concerns. i read about all of the accidents and was shocked how few people died in chernobyl. the most recent accident nobody will die from the radiation. that is explained by the energy density. we find that bio-mass and burning wide and fossile fuels kill 7 million a year from smoke. that smoke is a function of the waste product in the air and people breathing it. with nuclear, even in the worst accident, only a tiny amount of material cheapskate. the energy density of the fuel determines how much air pollution there would be. >> tucker: people who wrote the green new deal must have

consulted scientists and know what you just said is true. >> i don't think so. >> of. >> tucker: why isn't nuclear part of the solution? >> it's disappointing. -- there are 3 big reasons. first associated with the bomb which is wrong. they are two separate technologies. in the '60s and today there were concern too much cheap energy would result in over-population and over-consumption. the third one the most powerful is a strong desire to use energy to harmonize with the natural world. that turns out to be a bad idea. because the more material resources we use, the worse it is for the natural environment. >> tucker: exactly. we are out of time. i would recommend your piece to everybody watching. it changed my mind on the subject. thank you very much. in a minute we will talk to

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>> ♪ >> tucker: final exam where the news experts compete to see who paid the closest attention to the news this week. tonight a special "the five" final exam. jesse watters and greg gutfeld join us from the largest city in the united states tonight. the winner will face off next week with the 12-time jeopardy champion. we want to address the unsubstantiated allegation on mr. greg gutfeld's t-shirt.

they won't deduct points for the insult you have thrown at mr. waters. watters. >> fake news. i don't get involved. >> i thought i was having a rematch with dana. >> [laughing]. >> tucker: you know the rules. i will repeat them for viewers. hands on buzzers. the first one that buzzes in gets to answer the question. you must wait until i finish asking the question. if you get it wrong you lose a point. best of 5 wins. simple. you ready? >> yeah. >> tucker: question one: which television billonaire was named a biblicical figure lost $50-million on a weight watcher's investment after fewer people signed up for its diet?

>> oprah winfrey. >> oh! >> you know he hit before the question ended. >> tucker: i am not. there our judges will have to assess. the buzz count. was it oprah winfrey? >> $50-million oprah winfrey lost who owned part of the company. i hope you didn't pay an analyst for that evaluation. >> tucker: did you know oprah was a biblical name? >> no. >> it's harpo backwards. >> [laughing]. >> tucker: hands on buzzer. question 2. this is multiple choice.

the president's working lunch with the dictator of north korea the dessert was a certain vegetable. green beans, mushrooms or chinese water chestnuts? >> the second one. the mushrooms. >> tucker: was it wood ear musrooms? >> listen to this for the minnish. a traditional vietnam dessert of mushrooms in a light, sugary syrup. >> tucker: how did you know that? >> i am a chef. i cook every night for the children. i go down to the orphanage and cook. >> everything he is saying is wrong. >> i am a selfless human being. >> tucker: question 3. 2020 candidate amy is in the

news for strange behavior dealing with her staff. a former aide witnessed the senator eating her salad with which unusual item. scissors, a comb or her bare hands? >> a comb. >> the "new york times" amy berated a staff member for failing to bring her a fork with her salad. sheate the salad using the comb from her bag and then gave it to her aide to clean it. >> tucker, do you know what the collusion story and amy have in common? a dirty comey. >> tucker: that's pretty good. question 4, which loud member of congress who used to be a

bartender is now a sword weilding super hero in a comic book? >> aoc. >> tucker: can you be more specific? >> alexandria ocasio-cortez. >> tucker: was it aoc? >> it's a bird or plane or aoc. the new york congresswoman is now the star of a comic book. one cover shows her with a sword and super woman style outfit with the caption "new party, who this?" >> tucker: 2 notes from the judges. keep hands on buzzers and this question is worth 2 points. >> what! >> tucker: i don't make the decisions here. >> you just changed the rules. >> tucker: i do what i am told. never apologize and never

explain. final question. if you wish your beer tasted more like marsh mallows you are in look. which beer tastes like a new breakfast cereal? >> lucky charms. >> lucky charms favored beer. made of toasted marshmallows and a leprechaun too. >> tucker: are impressive. i will give you my mug next time i see you. will face off against the jeopardy champion. >> you keep promising me the mug. >> i knew all of the answers. he is closer to the buzzer. >> tucker: thanks. that's this week's final exam. tune in next week greg gutfeld

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>> ♪ >> tucker: suddenly there are democrats running for their party's presidential nomination and disagreements between them.

one thing many agree on is embracing the foreign policy agenda of bill crystal in syria or venezuela, an opportunity for the united states to enter conflicts around the world they support it. tulsi gabbard wants to keep america out of pointless foreign wars and has been attacked in washington. she joins us now. you have been criticized for coming on the show. we disagree on most things. you are a progressive. one place i admire your courage is your unwillingness to go along with the foreign policies in washington. you are attacked. >> i am a soldier of the army national guard. i served on 2 middle east deployments. i know first hanthe cost of war.

i served on the foreign affairs committee and the armed services committee. i have seen how self-serving, powerful politicians from both parties have continued this foreign policy regime change war view, where they think we the united states should be acting as the policemen of the world and continue to go around and overthrow and toppling dictators or countries who we don't like, costing us the american people trillion dollars in the process. causing more suffering in the countries where we go and wage these wars and by the way undermining our own national security as we are seeing playing out in countries like north korea where kim jong-un has stated he is holding on to nuclear weapons as his only deterrent to the united states coming in and waging a regime

change war in north korea. while i am concerned about the fact the summit ended without an agreement, because we need to see denuclearization, it's not surprising because of this policy, this regime change policy. leaders in both parties here in washington had perpetuated over and over again. >> tucker: what is so interesting is that world view, the regime change, if it worked -- at one time i thought it made sense. we had almost 20 years of it. it hasn't worked. why would people still support that? >> well, that's a great question. if you look at the military industrial complex that benefits off of these continued regime change wars and those in washington who invested their entire careers built on continuing to wage these wars. the most unfortunate thing is

they sell them under the guise of humanitarianism to the american people who want to do good things and help people who are suffering. but not pointing out the fact and facing the truth in each example of regime change led by the united states resulted in far more suffering for the people who they are supposedly trying to help. there are a lot of different motives. you can look at corporate greed and who benefits financially wars. self-serving powerful politicians and leaders in both parties. >> tucker: you have been attacked and i won't make you relive it. including by some people i know who should know better. nobody has engaged you in the argument you just made. they dismissed you as sucking up to this dictator and you are a bad person. has anyone debated you on the

points you are making? >> no, no. constantly i see again people from both parties instead resorting to name calling or superficial attacks because they refuse to engage on the substance of this argument about why they continue to push for and try to wage these regime change wars ignoring the consequences on the people in the countries and the american people. the reality is these wars are costing the taxpayers trillion dollars, dollars that should be here. that should remain in our pockets or invested in rebuilding our crumling infrastructure and the needs of our people. >> tucker: i just want to say we disagree on many things. but i admire your bravery for saying that out loud. you are always welcome on this show. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: tonight we warned you

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>> tucker: we called for washington to apologize for the russia hoax. now an apology of our own am we covered the discovery that knitting is racist. you emailed. some of those were crochet and not knitting. i am offended. make it stop! and this from a person. you know a man put that segment together and has no clue about the difference between knitting and crocheting. we want to warn people that crocheting could choose to

self-identify as knitting. we will be back tomorrow. 8 p.m. the show that is the sworn enemy of of lying, pomposity, smugness and group think. good night from washington. where is sean hannity? >> sean: in vietnam. >> tucker: good morning, vietnam. >> sean: welcome to "hannity." a ton of news. we will get it all in. it's 9 p.m. in our nation's capitol and 9 a.m. in hanoi, vietnam, where the second historic summer between president trump and kim jong-un is over. coming up tonight my exclusive interview with the president. we will take you inside this week's historic meetingings. we will cover also a wide range of topics. the fight for the border wall and michael cohen's testimony and the mueep