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along the way, won three mvp's along with a triple crown in 1956. he was elected to baseball hall of fame in 1974. his first year of eligibility. good stuff, thanks for joining us today. bill hemmer will be back on monday. "outnumbered" starts now. >> harris: we begin with a fox news alert, house democrats vowing to step up their investigation and proof into president trump's personal charity committee after testimony from former trump attorney michael cohen this week. if at the president today tweeted "there is new evidence that cohen committed perjury again." you're watching "outnumbered" on a fine friday. here today, melissa francis. fox news contributor morgan ortagus and beautiful yellow today. fox news contributor rachel campos duffy and i want talk about his clothes, house democrats gas today is democrat strategist and former hillary clinton and al gore
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campaign advisor richard goodstein. good to have you. melissa francis, great to see you. are we ready for friday? with you absolutely, i love it. >> richard: good to be back, you had me last june. what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. bring it on. >> harris: michael cohen is not to return for another round of testimony next weekend, a russian born business associate who worked on the trump tower moscow project is testifying the following week. this is house democrats are reportedly looking to use cohen's testimony to turn up the heat on president trump. they are considering calling in some of his top business associates and family members to testify on capitol hill including trump organization cfo. i'm the president's attorney along with his son donald trump jr., dr. ivanka and son-in-law jared kushner. here is adam schiff. >> you will be returning on
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march 6 for additional testimon testimony. and i think we all feel is a very productive interview today where he was able to shed light on a lot of issues that are very core to our investigation, and we are able to drill down in great detail. >> harris: but ranking house oversight committee member jim jordan is going after cohen's testimony after referring him to the doj saying he again has committed perjury. watch. >> you're not supposed to say things that are not true in front of a congressional committee particularly when you're the first of this congress added two months, going to prison for lying to congress and come in front of congress and you don't tell the truth. that is not supposed to be how it operates. the guy they brought in to start their whole plan to move with their crazy impeachment process was michael cohen when in. a guy who was going to prison for lying to congress. >> harris: chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel is on
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capitol hill. >> good afternoon to you. president trump says his former fixer michael cohen was shopping around a book which directly contradicts his capitol hill testimony. cohen's manuscript shows that he committed perjury on a scale not seen before. he must've forgotten about his book when he testified. what does hillary clinton's lawyer say about this one? is he being paid by cricket hillary using her lawyer? michael cohen spent three days and capitol hill this week, to behind closed doors and one in open session. former new jersey governor chris christie and former federal prosecutor says cohen gave house committees leads to follow up. >> what he really did yesterday was create a whole bunch of additional witnesses at the house is now empowered to bring before them. folks like the trump organization, who he must've mentioned a dozen times. if the president's children who he said was involved in the hush money payments and others. >> now top democrats are praising cohen following his appearances this week.
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>> he was fully cooperative and answered all of our questions. this is obviously been excruciating time for him. we are very grateful he was as forthcoming as he was. he needed to tell us the full truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. none of the questions that we had for him went unanswered. >> and cohen teased he'll be back on capitol hill. >> thank you all so much for waiting around for just me. not much i can say other then it was very productive as i said on committee to telling the truth and i will be back on march 6 to finish up, there's more to discuss. >> this is just the start of many congressional hearings looking into the president's business dealings, his campaign, and even his family. >> harris: mike emanuel, thank you very much. i'm going to come to you first
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on this. what are democrats hoping to get to when all of this from a criminal lawyer? >> richard: i don't think what michael cohen said bears a ton of weight and whether it democrats will proceed to do. think about what we know, independent of michael cohen and not for mainstream media had not from twitter. we know from paul manafort's lawyers that he met just uptown here to deliver to a russian spy secret polling data that enabled the russians how best to help the trump campaign weight and we know from the intelligence committee but that's what the russians did and we know about the payoffs. we knew independently of anything that michael cohen said, is interesting that not one republican spring to the defense of donald trump. during the hearing and since, it was all about what a creep michael cohen is. i would say that's the best you can do, going to be a long couple of years. >> harris: that's interesting because the house intelligence committee, one of their aides
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was talking about whether or not he would see any of these people mention on the hill. chairman elijah cummings said all those names he said if you are on that list that he talked about, give a good chance of hearing from this from an interview. so i don't think that it is actually accurate to say that what he said doesn't have a bearing on where democrats will go. >> richard: they're getting allen's name because he cut an immunity deal with the southern district of new york. they didn't need to hear from michael cohen about his complicity and wrongdoing. all these names came out independently. >> harris: trump organization assistant. >> richard: her name has been in the news. it's been a long time bodyguard matthew calamari. >> richard: any investigator who has been close to trump, it's a tight-knit group. so we know that everybody who was close to donald trump, we've known about her for years since trump announced his candidacy.
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>> harris: i will ask the indulgence of the couch and then i will pass the baton. what is the goal here? it seems like the goalpost is moving. have we shifted from was the rush of coordination or as some call it collusion to can we get the president in on anything including his finances and with that make it a witch hunt? >> richard: they would say they're carrying on a constitutional duty of oversight. think about what we knew in 2017 at 2018 when the republicans controlled the house about manafort, gates pleaded guilty, flynn pled guilty. we knew about stormy daniels. we know about any number of different things none of which were subject to hearings so this is long overdue and not a witch hunt. so we will see. >> melissa: i'll ask you because he is talking very much about russia. it seems like this is the road you're going down. seem like from some of the questioning that we've heard out of congress that there kind of
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shifting weed from russia towards financial crimes has a way to undercut or try to impeach the president. at that time, it was a great article last week talking about one place where they are not talking about russia and they are not talking about impeachment and not talking about financial crimes. >> rachel: or michigan. >> melissa: they go out and try to get support and get ready for 2020, but the rest of the world for the rest of this country is focused on looking candidates do to improve their lives versus take down this current president. >> i've been listening to chris christie and he's been very critical of how the g.o.p. has not been defending him, just saying he's a rat and a liar, and we kind of already know that just looking at him. he looks super shady. so the question is why were they defending trump and he says this
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is a failure of the communications team at the white house and coordinating with those in the hearing who absolutely had to know what was coming with cohen. wesley didn't give a good job. back to your question, i just believe this is a big miscalculation on the part of the democrats to shift from collusion which i think they think they know that nothing major is going to come out. that's an indication that they believe they've moved now to his personal finances and i will say that one, no one is talking about that in iowa or the places that democrats need to win, but more importantly the people who voted for trump and the people they need to win over to win in 2020 already know he is a playboy who cheats on his wife, they didn't care about that. they already know he's somebody. >> melissa: some of those women who were in the suburbs do care about those things. >> rachel: people know and are kind of like -- everyone wants to pay as little as possible, no one is going to, this is a
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witch hunt, it is moved over and i don't think it's going to work out. >> harris: i want to get you in a conversation based on the evidence that came out that were first with the fbi and then with michael cohen. if specifically, the check that was written after the president was already in the white house for $35,000. michael cohen says it represents an agreement that they had to repay money that was paid per stormy daniels case. so does that change anything seeing that particular piece of evidence, another check that was signed by john jr. for the same amount? >> morgan: the seventh district has purview over that, not mueller. i think they will have to determine what the intent was behind that check. we have michael cohen started out saying convicted liar, who said that this is what it's for. we saw jim jordan say that he is
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putting cohen forward for what he thinks is the fifth time that he perjured himself just this week. so that is going to be something for the southern district to determine. i think we are really seeing this week goes beyond oversight. for me, this is plan c in the process. plan a was getting the president out via almost a bureaucratic coup as some people would call it by political leadership in the fbi and the doj. plan b was mueller, so plan c as we think this report, there might not be occasion, might not be a smoking gun here. if there's nothing in the report, the house where you're going to see it among democrats. talking about this later not just in voting for nancy pelosi and top democrat leadership know that this is politically toxic for them. >> melissa: putting a disputed
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report and buzzfeed back in the spotlight in january, the online publication reported that president trump had explicitly ordered cohen to lie by telling congress that negotiations over a trump tower moscow proposal ended earlier in the presidential campaign than they actually had. so the buzzfeed report in case you didn't memorize it reads "it is the first known example of trump explicitly telling a subordinate to lie directly about his own dealings with russia." that brought under sharp and rare rebuke from the special counsel's office denying that specific report and even fellow journalists took shots at buzzfeed. if a buzzfeed is now saying that cohen's testimony backs up the report that trump explicitly ordered cohen to live. he was what cohen told congress on wednesday. we met mr. trump did not directly tell me to lie to congress, that is not how he
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operates. in conversations we had during the campaign at the same time i was actively negotiating in russia for him, he would look me eye and tell me there is no in business and then go on to lie to the american people by saying the same thing. in his way, he was telling me to live. >> melissa: buzz sweet editor in chief ben smith tells "the washington post" that his testimony lines up very closely with what we reported. he had told the special counsel. if but the president of the investigative reporting nonprofit organization sharply disagrees and he tweets it looks like the big buzzfeed story from january about trump telling: cohen to lie to congress is wrong. can't see how you can square of the first, seventh, and eighth paragraphs of this with cohen's opening statement for today. so i'll ask you because a subject of this is does buzzfeed
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have any credibility left? when this came out, we thought there must be a tape where it's recorded, and that after this, they're still saying this. >> melissa: i've always thought this buzzfeed store was an enormous misdirection because what matters to adam schiff and mueller, not what buzzfeed is reporting as facts and i think the fact that michael cohen didn't take the bait and lay this on trump and say he told me to do that. while the republicans are saying liar except when he says there's no collusion. >> melissa: i'll start with you. if you believe anything you read in buzzfeed anymore? >> morgan: is a complete joke and if i want to learn about things i missed in the 90s, then i'll click on a buzzfeed
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article. i believe mueller in this instance and the speeeighteen made a very rare exception to come out and discredit this report. >> rachel: i think it's interesting that he says donald trump didn't tell me to say this, i just kind of knew what to say. this is a guy who is looking for leniency. he knows what the democrats want him to say and he didn't go as far as to say that donald trump exquisitely told him, but he is saying the things he knows the democrats want to hear and throughout that hearing as is looking for leniency. this is a man with no credibility, a motive to lie i think we ought to just take it for what it is. >> harris: i know this was a little outside the box but i had been curious because when you talk about someone who says he has no evidence of collusion between the trump campaign in russia and when you talk about someone who as you pointed out when he doesn't know something or can kind of step up and say the president didn't do this, there was violence that was talked about and he said no way
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with the president ever engage in that but i'm curious, why did he think mike picked things like this? why are we adjudicating something so naturally divisive because of something that michael cohen says about the president or anything else? why is that even part of it? you're not going to impeach the president over this. >> richard: is inflammatory and when he testified against richard nixon who was a racist and anti-semite, he didn't mention those things then. >> harris: wire democrats seem to be so interested in that? or are they? >> richard: i don't know if it tells us anything we didn't know before. we know that donald trump and his dad were prosecuted by the justice department for racist discrimination and housing. this is not news. >> harris: bringing it up in this hearing, why take a bite at that apple if you're a democrat in leadership? what does that get you? we are not talking about the legalities of what may happen.
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>> rachel: is to tear down donald trump cut by cut by cut. it's about 2020 and making it seem like it somehow a fact that he is a racist when there is no proof of that. >> melissa: a surprising development after an ugly dustup between mark meadows and rashida to leave after she accused him of a racist act. their moment on the house forward and what this means for civility in washington. plus, democratic congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez apparently warning moderate democrats that she's putting them on the list and is raising new concerns over whether or not there was a place in the democratic party for mainstream ideas. s. tyler reach her health goals! i'm in! but first... shelfie! the great-tasting nutrition of ensure. with up to 30 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals! ensure. for strength and energy.
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>> harris: freshman democratic congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez reportedly has threatening political retribution against moderate members of her own party. the conflict is arising over a houseboat on wednesday when more than two dozen democrats voted with republicans to add an amendment to a gun-control bill. if the amendment requires gun sellers to notify ice when an illegal immigrant tries to buy a gun. house speaker nancy pelosi and congresswoman also known as aoc reportedly scolded the 26 democrats and broke ranks to support the amendment. then the congresswoman reportedly went farther than that, telling the moderates that she was putting their names on a list and threatening to help mount primary challenges to them in 2020. a spokesperson for aoc told "the washington post" this, progressive activists are going to want explanations for the vote, and they are going to want a list of names and she is going to give it to them. richard, there's a list.
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and what will that be? if you are on the list by aoc. >> richard: let me tell you what it's going to mean. if there are hundred one members on the new democratic caucus. much bigger than the progressive caucus or any other democratic caucus in the house. of the 40 members that the democrats just picked up, 33 were new dems, zero were endorsed by bernie sanders or the group that aoc is affiliated with. one more fact, democrats got 23 million votes in their primaries last year, she got 14,000 against joe crowley. the point is, the press loves her and how could you not? she put herself pretty well and that hearing with michael cohen but she has no seniority, and i think with moves like this much is going to get people trying to knock her down a peg. if >> rachel: that's exactly what i thought. she's inviting all of those guys
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to find a primary candidate for her and i wonder as a democrat, why is nancy pelosi appeasing her? this is how the g.o.p. lost their majority was the freedom caucus not making room for moderates. >> richard: as of recently, she hadn't even opened a district caucus. so i do think she's got to stick to her knitting a little bit because you get 14,000, that doesn't mean there's this broad support in your district. >> rachel: why is nancy letting her get away with this? speaker we haven't actually had a vote and i'm positive there will not be a vote. >> harris: can i posit just this, you said that i want to quote you, and i'll ask it as a question i'm sure people heard you, she's a bully. >> melissa: she really is going after people who don't agree with what she says. she is intolerant. sometimes i think that's the fundamental difference between the left in the right.
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from a very basic point of view that on the right, our big goal is freedom. i don't consider myself a conservative or republican but i consider myself a lover of freedom. you pursue you live, you do for your family what you think is best. i think democrats are more about a community, and that's where the idea -- i don't mean that in a bad way are a good way. the collective can help each other and it takes a village that's why socialism appeals. we all hold a chiller together. so maybe that's what defines how they get together as a party is on the right we are independent this is taking it to the extreme where it almost feels like fascism or if you don't believe what i believe, you are wrong. if >> rachel: help what you on
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the list. speed when he heard rachel saying why is nancy pelosi speaker of the house appeasing her? aoc, alexandria ocasio-cortez has had the ability to galvanize at around the green new deal. she's got a marketability. she may not have that office for her to open, but she is open for business and her business is oppositional contrary, she gets it done for her own vision so what would you do as a leader? what do you have abuse her? >> morgan: used all the thoughts right out of my head. she may not be politically the most powerful, but emotionally when it comes to the base, she wrote a green new deal which has some of the most ridiculous unvented language in there and got six senators who are running for president who couldn't get a single staff member to read it but were so quick to sign onto it. she helped lead a movement to get amazon commode of the most powerful companies in the world out of new york city. the establishment democrats with all due respect and many of them sit on this couch are completely out of touch with the base of their party.
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she may not politically lead it but emotionally, this woman has more gravitas and more ability. people who are running for the highest office in the land to sign up to what she says no matter how utterly ridiculous the proposals are. >> melissa: just like president trump turn the republican party upside down. >> harris: if somebody is running away with your political party, what will you do? >> richard: she is not. let's just talk about the green new deal for a second. the green new deal is a democrat thing, we need to address climate change, the republicans are credibly saying no and imagine all the millions of millennials who hear the message with a democrat saying yes, we need to aggressively attack climate change. that's the caricature that if you're millennial, you're smart enough to know that's not at al all. >> harris: it does do what pelosi says, it does bring forth suggestions on the criticism among democrats even among
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the time fighting anonymous sources saying he demanded his clearance over the concerns of intel officials, then chief of staff john kelly and then white house counsel for kushner's lawyer saying mr. kushner security clearance was handled in the regular process with no pressure from anyone. that was conveyed to the media at the time come up with the president's critics pouncing on the report. here is house democratic intelligence member jim himes. >> if the fbi and cia and others say we have qualms about giving this individual access to the most sensitive information we have, it's not because they don't like that individual because they are participating in something political. it is that they understand there are circumstances it might have been in business dealings, might have been past misbehavior that could give foreign powers leverage over somebody in a very sensitive position. >> melissa: so you have
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security background, i want to go to you first. but has a right to give this clearance to whoever he feels like he needs to. so why is -- why are they continuing to make a big deal out of this story? what is in there that is the copter to the president? >> morgan: i think it's because jared's attorney is refuting the story and saying that it's not accurate. the interesting thing is that we reportedly -- no one has seen it may be the house committee will get a hold of it. there's reportedly a memo by the chief of staff at the time that he was ordered to give the clearance, and jared and his team and ivanka are all refuting it so i think one of the reasons why it's new is because "the new york times" is saying one thing and the kushner's are saying the other. you're absolutely right, the president could come and sit on this couch and give you the clearance right now if you wanted to, that's within his prerogative to do so. they are saying he's gone through the normal process, a few different levels of having the clearance. the question i think for people
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is if you don't go through -- if you go through the normal process, why would that be? is it because of your foreign contacts? is it because of business dealings? i think what the house is trying to get you is is there something related to the business? i think this is all related to the very first segment that we talked about where's investigating the business is in trying to find something there. >> harris: interesting. i know that you have worked with the clintons and you probably have some awareness about clearances, and there was a little jewel down today. if the president can actually raise or lower his own security clearance based on a need to know with any faction in government. so if he can do that, if he has access to that information and if he has the ability as melissa pointed out to bring anybody on board and give them a clearance has morgan has just said, what is it there? >> richard: why did the cia not consent to getting him this
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top security clearance? why did the chief of staff if the reports are true and the white house general counsel put my most of the files saying they were ordered to do this against their better judgment? you talk about prerogatives, the president had the prerogative when he sat with his intelligence people who said the north koreans can strike us with their missiles on the president said no, putin tells me differently and i believe him. that's his prerogative. it wasn't smart for him in helsinki to say i believe putin over my intelligence people? >> melissa: is it about saying that the president is guilty of vast overreach or is it about that they're trying to dig up something in jared kushner's past and we came to something else? that's kind of where it feels like it's going as they're trying to say there some big dark secret in jared kushner's background that has been on earth that we don't know about yet and that's why he didn't get clearance. that's where i thought he was going in the beginning.
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>> rachel: that could be the reason. a lot of people advise the president not to make his kids advisors and that certainly is something that a lot of people even on republican side was not a very good idea, and here is another example of why. it's a wonder who is advising the president. on the other hand, you see how many snakes were in his campaign, how many snakes were in the deep state and you understand why he wants to have his family coast and he has a history of a family business of having them as advisors. it's a complicated situation, but these are the dangers of doing that. he certainly has the ability and authority to do that. why would he lie about it and say i didn't. >> morgan: i would love to know the senior is to hillary clinton when she was secretary of state, i would've lost my clearance for it. i would just like the part of this report to wonder what happened, do these people still have the clearance is or it taken away? 's pretty we are hearing plenty
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>> rachel: another democrat joining the race for president in 2020. jay inslee announcing that his campaign will center on fighting climate change. meantime, former secretary of state has every clinton in a podcast interview seemingly ruling out the possibility of ever running again. but also addressing how sexism may play out on the campaign trail with 2020 female
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candidates like senators elizabeth warren at amy klobuchar who are already facing questions about likability and treatment of staff. so i'm going to go to you. >> my having gone through it last time should make it a little easier. i've been in and around politics for a long time and there are a lot of men who are really unlikable who get themselves elected to very high positions, but i don't understand fully why the press just defaults to these sloppy unfair characterizations, and at least people are being called out about it now. >> rachel: i'm going to go to you. i'm the wife of a political person. when he has missteps, it is certainly thrown back at him. he would face the heat for that. so do you agree or not with what hillary said? do they have an unfair with the
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media? >> morgan: i'm going to make twitter explode because i do agree with her in some ways. with some men that get elected that are not likable, that's true but not to the presidency. so maybe i disagree with her there. typically whoever wins is a very charismatic person from a republican, democrat, whoever. i do think we are still getting used to being on the national stage. look at what they did in 2008 and how she was crucified, so i think we get criticized for our hair and her makeup, you guys do it on twitter if you don't like what we are wearing. so we are still learning how to run for the highest office in the land and i think sometimes, we do it to ourselves. sometimes we are trying to play a caricature. so i think whether it's a democrat or republican, i still think women get hammered. nikki haley got hammered this week for going to the kind factory where they make at the car and protein bars and she's amazing. >> rachel: the point you bring up is very interesting because
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every example you gave is of a conservative woman politicians it was at that conservative women are the ones getting the harder times? >> melissa: i think everybody gets hammered for everything now. if you dare go on twitter and you read the comments on everyone, it is equal opportunity bashing out in social media. if you think about the men who haven't succeeded in politics, it is for the same thing as being not likable. mitt romney was too stiff for jeb bush, low energy. whatever reason is that a person isn't, the word you used is charismatic. are you going to venture into this woman conversation? >> richard: to make two points. it is a wild that hillary was the unlikable one in the primaries. bernie sanders is the epitome of the grouchy old coot. >> melissa: but he is authentic. >> richard: but he's not
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likable. i will say this, i asked ahead of emily's list which raises for female candidates, how much was ranked gender bias versus personal to hillary? and she said i don't know, might have been two points, might've been five. you've got a lot riding on that question and she said absolutely, i just don't know how to get to the bottom of it. >> melissa: i think it's about authenticity. you don't feel like hillary clinton as being authentic. >> harris: so you know her well. issue likable in terms of what you have to sell in a political sphere? >> richard: using these stories for decades about the woman and her immediate orbit the would've stopped a bullet for her, would have thrown in front of a screen, they were so fond of her it was off the charts. these are professional women, i think they take that from their
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experience. does hilda reid, like amy klobuchar, have an edge to her sometimes? because she's smart and demanding. >> rachel: some people would say she had an advantage because she was a woman and they wanted to elect a woman. it republican mark meadows and democrat tlaib moving forward after their big dustup during the cohen hearing. they hugged it out on the floor, whether the movement would prove to be meaningful. we will talk about that next. (♪ )
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>> it is insensitive the fact that someone would actually use a prop, a black woman in this chamber and this committee. he is alone racist in itself. >> morgan: a heated exchange followed that allegation of racism during wednesday's michael cohen hearing. yesterday, representatives mark meadows and rashida tlaib hugging it out on the floor. tlaib accused meadows of using a black woman as a prop after he invited housing and urban development official lynn patton to defend president trump from
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cohen's claims of racism. she suggested that strategy in itself was racist. here is meadows on their moment of reconciliation. >> we are in a civil society. that's what separates us from all other nations as a civil society and i felt compelled to offer a hand of friendship and say if there was anything that i did that personally offended you, it didn't come from my heart. she hugged me, and certainly we looked at moving forward to hopefully work. >> morgan: one of the moments and that catastrophe of the hearing was elijah cummings who came out during this whole heated exchange and tap the brakes on everything and made a moment of peace i thought that was a beautiful moment. how did you feel? >> richard: i felt for him at the moment and i think.
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for him to talk about it was not something that he had done too much. hats off to cummings, it just speaks to how race is touchy that like this and which is up and which is down. b6 is not just touchy, being used by representative tlaib as a weapon and it was insulting. i will tell you this, lots of minorities who are conservative like myself have been accused of being a prop and what an insulting thing. what an insult to say that they should be what my ideas are. i thought for a of meadows was far too nice, and wish he hadn't have been that nice. he needs to be called out on it, he she is a racist. has spoken with her, she has the pot calling the kettle black. >> harris: one thing i would say is there's enough of stuff to go around, and you can pretty
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much find videos these days of anybody. they've been putting up some videos of representative mark meadows on the campaign trail when he was running a north carolina. but the bigger point is what happens moving forward on that is can we get to a place where we can reach out to each other? can we not judge each other by the color of our skin based on what you just said, i think i know everything about you because i know what you are. don't. you don't know who or whose i am. and can we just get there together? the one thing i would say with representative tlaib and i'd like to believe that she didn't mean it, let's not call each other words like props and tokens. it really hurts because there are women out there and men out there who are doing incredible things and places where you might not expect to see them. and it doesn't tell you anything more about them than they're trying to get there on merit. lynn patton has a very respectable and impressive resume. let's start with i take
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exception. i take exception of you pointing out or failing to point out the important things about lynn patton. she obviously was prepared to make that moment. >> rachel: it was entered in the record which is the proper procedure. she entered into the record of her experience with donald trump which was necessary since he was being accused of racism and here she was who i never had that experience with the president. i just think it's time for all of us to stop using race as a weapon and make people who aren't a color or whatever term it is that they used to somehow feel like they are on trial all the time. >> richard: let's hope it's a learning experience for everybody. >> morgan: and they do for those beautiful words. more "outnumbered" in just a moment. it's for my family, its for my self, its for my future. annuities can provide protected income for life. learn more at retire your risk dot org.
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>> melissa: think it to richard goodstein. you survived again! a >> richard: they say the third times a charm. this is my second time here, this is a charm.
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>> melissa: it was a child, absolutely. you are hosting "fox & friends" this weekend, rachel? >> rachel: every wednesday to saturday and sunday. >> melissa: you have good times plan, should. thank you, as well. we are back here on the couch at monday at noon. now here's harris. >> harris: this is developing. president trump is not giving up on reaching a deal with north korea. this is "outnumbered overtime." i'm harris faulkner. president trump back at the white house and suggesting talks will continue with north korea after this week's nuclear summit ended without a deal. here is what he tweeted. "great to be back from vietnam, an amazing place. we had very substantive negotiations with kim jong un. we know what they want, and they know what we must have. relationship very good. let's see what happens!" all this, as the commander-in-chief is getting praise from both sides of the political aisle for walking away, including some kudos from joe biden. watch. >> the pre

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