for that, you are our midnight hero. by the way, they gave him a free mail. he earned it! most-watched, most trusted, most grateful you spent the evening with us. have a great weekend. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." here is a quick civics lesson. what is politics? i politics is a system that allows people who violently disagree with each other to reach compromise without shedding blood. it's worked well for a long time in this country. but when one side decides it is no longer willing to compromise, that system breaks down. without compromise you no longer have politics. instead have you an especially fanatical form of religious belief. isis, for example, is not a political organization. its leaders reject accommodation of any kind.io its leaders assume that everything they do has the approval of a higher power. they are good people.ow

they know that. they know their beliefs are not simply correct, they are the only possible beliefs. anyone who disagrees with them is by definition immoral. a system like that does not allow for the possibility that good people might be mistaken once in a while or reach different conclusions sincerely. people with different opinions are, again by definition, bad people. in fact, they may not be people at all, they might be subhuman. they must be converted, had to the faith or crushed and eliminated this is not an american way of looking at the world and yet, suddenly, it's everywhere. unfortunately now defines parts of the modern democratic party. joe biden didn't know. this biden has been the democratic politics all of his life. he has taken the last couple years off. flying around the world getting rich by giving high price speeches. by the time biden decided heg wanted to run for president yet again, his party had changed completely. but nobody had told him. he made the mistake the other day about saying this about mike pence. >> the fact of the matter

is, followed on by a guy is a decent guy. our vice president. who stood before this group of allies and leaders and said, i'm here on behalf of president trump. there was dead silence, dead silence. >> tucker: "is he a decent guy," biden said of pence. that's an old fashioned way to talk. that's how people in political washington used to talk about each other. it was one way that theyey reminded themselves politics is important but it's not everything. every political opponent is also, on some level anyway, a human being and a fellow american. our common humanity is stronger than our political differences.haha that was the assumption that they had, and have had since the civil war. and the assumption we have to have if we are going to live in the same country.

cindy nixon former actor and now a political extremist. spends a lot of time on twitter yelling at people. she was enraged. cynthia nixon disagrees with mike pence's views on gay rights question. therefore she knows pence cannot be a decent person. it's just not possible. she told joe biden this on twitter. joe biden had no choice but to agree with her. you are right, cynthia, biden wrote back. there is nothing decent about being anti-lbgtq right and that includes the vice president. people use to say joe biden wad was a decent guy, too. only those with the program and appose tates who deviate from the later. she is a staunch progressive. she does hold hetero docks opinions with. this doesn't bill kristol. she agrees she wants to keep the u.s. out of pointless foreign conflicts and instead focus on domestic concerns. and for having that opinion she

has almost been expelled from her own party. watch. >> they have dismissed you as sucking up to dictator and a bad person, is basically what they are saying. has anybody actually debated you on the points that you are making? >> no. no. constantly i see again people from both parties, instead, resorting to name-calling or superficial attacks because they refuse b to engage on the substance of this argument about why they continue to push for and try to wage these regime change wars, ignoring the disastrous consequences on the people in those countries and the american people. >> tucker: so that suddenly a very controversial thing to say in the modern democratic party. a place where there is no room for dissent anywhere on any issue. on wednesday, for example, handful of democrats joined with republicans to add an amendment to a universal background checks bill in the house. that amendment h would require

reporting a gun buyer to ice if that buyer is an illegal alien. a group that is not allowed to buy gun notice united states. in a closed door meeting after the vote, the democrats who joined with republicans on that were reportedly denounced by party leadership for their racism. the party's new ideological enforcer, alexandria ocasio-cortez warned that democrats who helped republicans in any way would go on a "risk" and would have primary challenges next time they ran. that's what extremism looks like the enemy is 100 percent wrong and we are 100 percent right always they are going to hell and we are safe. >> what is happening here is a sin against god. i believe that. >> jesus said suffer the little children unto me. he did not say, let the children suffer. >> a time in which we celebrate the birth of jesus christ, thank god there wasn't a wall that stopped him from seeking refuge in egypt.

thank god that wall wasn't there, and thank god there wasn't an administration like this. >> we are doing the lord's work by ministering to the needs of god's creation, they are ignoring those needs which is to dishonor the god who made them. >> tucker: we are doing god's will and we are on god's side. god loves us. god does not love the other side. they are sinners. they are going against god's will. in fact, you know what? they could be nazis. >> this is the united states of germany. the united states of america. it isn't nazi germany. >> bottom line, donald trump increasingly looks like hitler and nazi, germany. >> much like hitler took over the nazi party, trump has taken over the republican party., >> if you vote for trump, then you, the voter, you, not donald trump, areou standing at the border like nazis going you here, you here. >> they are the tactics beenre used through history by the worst purveyors of pure evil including slave traders and nazis and terrorists.

>> tucker: what you are looking at is not politics, it's a cult. nuance is the enemy. accommodation is a sin. ask too many questions or think too many independent thoughts and you will be denounced and wind up on alexandria ocasio-cortez's list. we reject this completely. a it's totalitarian. it's also stupid and boring. it's a replacement for thought. by the way, destroying a country as well. w we will always welcome people we disagree with on to this show. we assume they are decent people. s by the way, mostly they are decent people. we will do our best to find common ground with them and anyone else whenever we can because why wouldn't we? that's why you will often see sincere leftists on this show treated with respect. tulsi gabbard. greenwald, many others. we disagree with these people on a lot of things but not on everything, and that's the point. but most important of all, they are americans just like us and that matters most. we need to remember that david burstein is co-founder of run for america and he joins us tonight. thanks for coming on. r i understand that biden

wants to appeal to the base and the base is mad at trump. i get it. but since he is an adult over 7s and he has been at this a long time, wouldn't this be a perfect for moment for him to say wait a second, i know mike pence, i disagree with him on gay rights and probably thousands of other things, but he is a decent man. you have to be able to allow your opponent is a decent man or else we have war. why didn't he say that? >> i think is he recognizing what the democratic base is at at the moment, right? and i think that's a big problem for him and his desire to run for president. >> tucker: right? i agree with you. >> right? i think there is also, you know blurring as you just pointed out when it has to come to issues with lbgt rights. there is a difference that people are looking at. people do feel -- and mike pence's position do suggest to many people that we should be treating people indecently.

>> tucker: hold on -- >> but that should not be a case for saying that mike pence is a terrible person. >> exactly. >> even if he is being indecent to other people. >> tucker: there are a lot of opinions that i think are indecent that are a policy of the democratic party. i can name a lot of them beginning with abortion. i feel that as strongly as any lbgt activist feels about his set of issues. i also believe and i think i am required to believe that people who disagree with me can be really good people.y they just reach a different set of conclusions. the democratic base does not believe that. that's a totalitarian belief. it's a threat to the country and recipe for civil war. why doesn't some adult come in and say settle down, aoc? other people are still people even if you disagree with them. no one is brave enough to do that. >> look, i mean, i will say that. i don't think people should be engaged in this but i will say that i think people feel emboldened by their constituencies. aoc is an example of someoneeo who ran not on a position of compromise. she did not run for office

saying -- >> tucker: you are right. >> saying we should compromise and work along. >> joe biden is trying to run in that vein, right? he got in trouble for saying how he liked the republican fed upton in michigan it cost that person the elections in a swing seat. the reality is she is saying i am for this, i am going to be radical. i believe the problems of our time require radical solutions and i'm not interested in what other people have to say. that's what her -- you could easily say that's what her constituents voted for.si >> tucker: i mean like 20%ke of her district even voted. >> that's another problem. >> tucker: but you make a fair point. what i'm saying that's dangerous. y she is influential person. some of her policies are interesting. we should debate them. but if we begun with the assumption anyone who disagrees with anything is not fully human, then why don't we or is he indecent or immoral. if we start framing everything as a moral question then why don't we

end up shooting each other, sincerely? >> i think, to be fair, that i wouldn't say any democrat in office thinks republicans are immoral on every single issue. there are a number of issues you played in that clip reell those things have come up and not coincidental that some of those issues are issues about children at the border, there are questions about lbgt rights. >> tucker: whatever, spare me. there are issues that i feel about they are moral issues. i get that. >> having a moral issue is also not saying that people are indecent people. >> tucker: what we're arguing about is not salvation. political parties can't keep you from going to hell and they can't bring to you salvation. they can only pass laws and form policy. >> i think some of those people in that clip should be reminded of that. >> tucker: that's my point, exactly! that this is not a religion and if we start pretending that it is, we abet extremism and we are going to wind up reaping the whirlwind from that kind of crap. w but our leaders say, the other side is immoral?

really, they're nazis? what do you do to nazis? >> let's be honest how republicans have been on this issue. would you not say that republicans have used these same language on the part of democrats? >> tucker: yes, they have. yes, some of them have. and i hate that crap. but the leaders of the republican party have never done that the people like -- ronald reagan never said our opponents are evil. ay okay? >> that was a long time ago. >> tucker: by the way, you make a fair point if aoc is a bit of a side show, nancy pelosi should not be talking that way. >> and she -- you played a clip there. generally speaking, that's not her demeanor. it is reflective of a new generation of people because you see biden, you see people like. >> tucker: i get it, they are zealots! the revolution always eats itself. i will give you the last word. >> the political rhetoric in this country has changed. it has heated up and important that they stand with their

constituents and what those people believe. >> tucker: scary, i think. thank you very much. good luck with the revolution. robert is an attorney and radio host and he joins us. thank you very much for coming on. i would just throw that to you. and you are a democrat, a liberal. i assume you agree with everything that your party says, but is it helpful to frame every issue as a moral imperative? where there is no gray and no potential for compromise? >> i think one of the issues we have to understand is people are not monolithic in their thought. just because you identify with a party does notec mean there is not diversity in that party. i don't think anyone would believe that donald trump and mitt romney agree on fiscal issues for example. what we have to do, people in their own distribution have to do what their constituents. if you are from a red state or someone like me pro-gun, pro-life fiscally conservative democrat, then maybe aoc isn't the candidate for you. but we have to leave space for all those things to breathe. let's not act as republicans weren't doing exactly this in 2010 and 2012 when they

said obamacare was worse than slavery.d where you had people saying to obama, you lie in the chamber of house of representatives. so what we need to do is tamp down the rhetoric on the extremes. the normal every day americans, the people who just want clean air, clean water, a job, good education for their children do not care about this stuff on the extreme. they want people to come together and find a compromise on immigration and border security.ra but the freedom caucus and mark meadows blocked that in 2013. we could have had a compromise bill. >> tucker: i basically agree with you. as sort of a matter of policy, i don't think we should be yelling from the audience no matter who it is. i don't think we should be yelling at the president at the state of the union. since you brought it up and why know the facts of it. that member of congresss yelled at obama when he said illegal aliens will never get government healthcare. the new government healthcare plan, democrats now support over 100 co-sponsors, gives government healthcare to illegal aliens

and so does obamacare. s can we at least at admit he was lying as a factual matter?dl [laughs] >> regardless of the factual matter in that case because -- [laughter] >> remember, this is still five or six years later. you have to have a level of respect and a level of decorum. >> tucker: i agree with you. >> professionalism.>> >> i agree there is a e different way to express. >> 90% of us in the middle who aren't on the 5% of the tea party extreme or socialist extreme.e. we just want to get things done in america and get things done in congress. and what these extremists have to understand is you have to put together a legislative governing coalition. you can't do it by yourself. you can't just push through all these crazy policies because guess what? if bernie sanders or elizabeth warren become the democratic nominee they there are going to be lot of blue dog democrats in the center like me who abandon the party. >> tucker: i think they are going to purge you first, robert. t i think you are in trouble. they are going to come to you. but i appreciate you coming on our show before that happens. thank you very much. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: so once you

understand what's actually happening, you realize that all these issues, gun control, the green new deal, medicare for all, there is a thread that connects them all. and that's power. what you are watch something a complete takeover of the american economy and america by a political party. p healthcare is next, and that's our topic after the break.k. ♪

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pushing in its effort to take over the united states economy and your personal life. democrats also a bill to take over healthcare. it's called the medicare for all bill and has over 100 co-sponsors in the house.. that's a lot if you want perspective. the bill among other things would ban private health insurance. so to paraphrase presidentl obama, if you like your plan you definitely will not be able to keep your plan. the projected price tag for this no one really knows. here is one estimate. $32 trillion over the next decade.. i but, cost is no object as they often tell us. chris hahn is a radio host he joins us tonight. thank you by the way for coming on. i know that you support single pair. >> any time. >> tucker: lots of polls show americans want guaranteed healthcare. so it's not a question whether that's popular. it is. the question how to get to it.

i wonder how can you sell a bill that makes it illegal for most people to pay doctors out of their own pocket if they want to. that's a little fascist is it not? >> i don't think there isus any bills serious of passing that would not allow people with their own money to do anything they want with their own doctor. >> tucker: hold on. let's discuss the bill that's right there in the house going to have 160 co-sponsors not some fringe thing by cynthia mckinney or whatever. this is like a real thing. over 100 democrats and it auto would not allow private contracts between citizens and fittings. like, what? >> yeah, i don't believe that that would actually be the final bill that would ever pass. but i do support medicare for all, and i think that the american people would like to see all americans covered.d. and whatever the democrats propose, republicans are going to call it socialism, just like they did with obamacare, which is clearly not socialism. >> i'm anti-slogan. i don't want to throw slogans around. >> good, me too.

>> tucker: meat of the legislation pending in the house of representatives tonight, again, that has overwhelming support from your party.nd so, that legislation as noted two times previously would ban private contracts between citizens and physicians. it would also pay for abortion now you are going to tell me most americans support roe v. wade. do most americans support using federal dollars to pay for abortion up to birth? i don't think they do, not even close. >> no. >> tucker: so why include that? >> like i have said before there used to be a time in america where we had a legislative process where people would propose things and people who had different ideas would propose other things we would meet in the middle. now people propose things, and then people just sayth that's socialism, that's about abortion. that is bad. that is evil. just -- i'm not saying youay are, i'm not saying you are. but the conversation you had in your first segment is very similar to what happens when people propose legislation in america today. it becomes a good vs. evil

battle instead of discussing the merits of the policy and get to a place where all americans can be happy. >> tucker: this is the most straw man ever constructed i'm trying to do which you lament is not done anyone assess the actual details of a piece of legislation that would force taxpayers to pay for abortion up to birth. nobody -- there is no large group of americans that wants that. you would have to be a freaking lunatic idealogue to put that in a piece of legislation. why are they doing that? >> you would also have to repeal the hyde amendment and do other things. >> tucker: why would you put that in a bill? >> because if you are pro-choice and writing the bill, you would add things that support your position. people who are antichoice would then try to amend that bill to get to a compromise m to get 300 members instead of 230 members supporting a bill. which is all we pass bills on in the house of representatives last couple weeks.nd it used to be in america that you would get republicans and democrats support of a bill. people who are like minded andhe

want to help solve a problem. nobody wants to solve problems in america anymore. that's the problem. >> tucker: maybe you should write bills that aren't riddled with total fringe positions that only crazy people support. really. >> maybe should say you know what or maybe people on the other side would say take that out of the bill and i will support it and then we have a good conversation about how we bring a healthcare to all americans. >> tucker: obviously if you like this you are not interested in it..d does.s >> tucker: these are talking points. anyone who writes a piece of garbage like this is not interested in solving problems. i think we can both agree on that. >> no. >> chris hahn thank you very much. >> thank you. >> tucker: leaked phone call shows how google, the most powerful company in the history of the world not opposed to congress apparently in its pocket. google tried to control the conservative's movement on immigration by cpac with own puppet. cpac is going on. last year we have the audio exclusively just ahead.

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thoughts are but they areow working on that, too. in a 2018 phone recording obtained exclusively by this show. the head of u.s. public policy explains to google employees company was sponsor for cpac this year. google sponsored cpac, he says, because it wouldn't let them push the party toward a more open borders agenda. listen. >> the republican party and conservatism in general is also going through a lot of internal debate about what it should be the sort of position of the party and i think that's one that we should be involved inhi because we, i think, want probably, wants to steer conservatives and republicans more towards a message of liberty and freedom and away from the more nationalistic incendiary nativist comments and things like that. >> tucker: google has more power than any company has ever had.

data reserves, technology. of course, they have financial power as one of the market cap companies in history. it also increasingly has political power though they tonight typically admit it in public. he says companies like google are playing "a leadership role" in american politics. he bragged that the company got a support of mass immigration on cpac panel and that person argued in support of google's agenda. shows a lot about big tech's attitude they are in control. electronics, parties, democracy just a hinderance to their control. so we told you a lot on this show about the potential dangers of big tech. some of those dangers are imminent and technological and the main one is robotics and artificial intelligence. remarkably, the person, the political figure who isng making the most sense on this subject, who has thought about it most deeply, is a democrat who is running for president. he is andrew yang.g. he is an entrepreneur and democratic presidential candidate. he says artificial intelligence

and expanded automation could potentially cause violence in this country and we need to do something about it right now. he joins us tonight. thanks very much forto coming on and i meant that with sincerity.y.. i haven't heard anybody in our political conversation describe the threat as clearly and compellingly as you have. why should would we be worried about automation? >> if you look at the back drop we automated away 4 million manufacturing jobs in michigan, ohio, pennsylvania, wisconsin, missouri, and those communities have never recovered. where if you look at the numbers, half of the workers left the workforce and never worked again, and then half of that grouper filed for disability now what happened to the manufacturing workers is going to happen to the truck drivers, call centers and fast food workers on and on through the economy as we evolve in technology marginalizes the labor of more and more americans.ucfe >> tucker: what will the effects of that be? that's a massive displacement of people. what will happen once that happens?

>> well, as you said, i think it's going to be disastrous. where if you look at truck drivers alone, being a trucker is the mostor common job in 29 states there are 3.5 million truck drivers in this country. and my friends in silicon valley are working on trucks that can dry themselves because that's where the money is we can save tens, even hundreds of billions of dollars by trying to automate that job. i was just with truck drivers in iowa last week and imagining that community recovering from their income going from let's call it $50,000 a year to much, much less than that catastrophically. it's going to be a disaster for many, many american communities. >> tucker: you are one of the only people i have met who is honest about the effects of de-industrialization. all become computer programmers that didn't happen. my question is do we have to sit passively back and let this happen to happen to the country? >> that's why i'm running for president. i think it would be insane to watch this automation wave overtake our country and economies. so, we are not ostriches. we get it. artificial intelligence is real.es self-driving cars and trucks tested on the highways right

now and we need to evolve and start pushing the way we think of economic progress to include how our families are doing, how our children are doing., and things that would matter tos the american people. g.d.p. is going to lead us off a cliff. you know, robot trucks are great for g.d.p. terrible for many, many american communities. get with the program and figure out how to actually make this economy work for people. y >> tucker: i sit with my jaw open i agree with you so strongly. let me ask you finally whyn' isn't this a central question in the campaignyb of everybody running for president on any side, and why instead are they talking about issues that are really are kind of frivolous? why aren't they talking about this? >> it's a good question, tucker. one of the reasons i'm running for president is to push this in the center of the mainstream agenda where every candidate should be talking about what we are going to do about the fact that we're automating away the most common jobs in the economy right now. as we are sitting here together, the labor force participation rate in the united states is 63.2%. the same level as ecuador and costa rica. and if anyone thinks that's

where america ought to be, that number is even going to be further challenged whenen all of this technology comes online. we have to make america embrace this challenge of the 21st century and then try andnd address it together as a people. >> tucker: last question. shouldn't people who cite unemployment statistics be penalized for saying something so stupid? >> yeah. we have a series of bad numbers. and i refer to the g.d.p. as one and certainly headline unemployment rate is completely misleading and one of my mandates as president is i'm going to update the numbers. so that they actually make sense to the american people. >> yes, yes.ur so we can know what's going on.nc otherwise you can't make wise decisions. >> right now again and you know. this our life expectancy has declined first time in 100 years because of a surge in suicides and drug overdoses. how can you say an economy is healthy when our people are dying? >> tucker: i literally -- i don't even know what you think

on the other issues and i just support what you said so much. i appreciate your coming on. >> thank you, tucker, it's great to be here. >> tucker: thank you. ms-13 is the deadliest gang in america. some apparently are planning to assassinate law enforcement officers. we will investigate what's going on after the break.

♪ >> tucker: ms-13 isn't real, it's a figment of your bigotted imagination. the left has told you that a thousand times. somehow this imaginative group is now thanks to theat immigration is now the deadliest gang. the newark police department is warning its officers they could be plotting and the sung of assassination attempts even if they are off duty by ms-13. trace gallagher has more on this story. trace? s- >> tucker, for anyone who has covered ms-13 you know it's all about street credibility or street cred a way of rising in the ranks by targeting the gang's worst enemies or biggest threats. in this case it's new york city police officers who live on long island. nypd has now issued an

officer safety alert, an internal bulletin saying that ms-13 gang members are planning on carrying out attacks on off duty police officers near their homes. in fact, the truly frightening part for officers and their families is that the alert reportedly states that gang members are conducting reconnaissance of police officers' private homes. a former fbi agent told cbs 2 new york "they are going above and beyond what any other gang does and the scary part is that we already know that they legitimately carry out threats and are extremelygi violent." the warning goes on to advise police officers who live on long island to take extra precaution and change up their routines whenever possible. the gang's reign of terror is well documented by a series of brutal and bloody attacks in queens, nassau a and suffolk counties in new york.s authorities note the gang is notorious for murder, drugs, child prostitution and racketeering. ms-13 is made up mostly of salvadoran illegal immigrants.or

the gang started in los angeles and spread to major american cities. in recent years the gang has spread like wildfire across long island. their tactics and techniques are so brutal that ms-13 members are often recruited as enforcers for major mexican drug cartels. tucker?aj >> tucker: unbelievable.nl trace gallagher, thanks very much. well, murderous gang members not the only problem here in new york city. there is rampant corruption, too. here's one shocking example. the mayor of new york, bill de blasio's wife, her name is charlene mccrea, oversees a massive mental health project. it's called thrive nyc. somehow thrive nyc failed to properly keep track of $850 million in funds. they don't know where the money is.so seth barron is an associate editor at city journal. pays closeit attention to new york city for us. seth, $850 million, what does it mean they can't account for it?

>> a billion here, a billion there. soon you've got real money. this is 250-million-dollar a year program and it was ill conceived from the beginning. thrive nyc is a mental wellness program. shirley mccrea's pet project is to get everyone into therapy. get everybody who is sad or lonely or a little anxious to get them treatment. so, she devised this program. it got hundreds of millions,la close to a billion dollarse in funding and it, you know, it trains people in how to observe your neighbors and see if they are sad or not and teaches to you engage with them in conversation. there is a lot of advertising. they set up a phone bank where you can call if you are feeling sad. >> tucker: i'm confused, if i am a cashier at wendy's and i can't account at the end of the night for 170 bucks, i could be brought up on theft b charges.

so, where -- i mean, this sounds like theft to me. if they can't account for $850 million, why is no one in jail? >> new york city outsources a lot of its social services to a whole network of community based nonprofits and these are organizations that offer the mayor political support and basically do whatever it is that he, you know, they come and -- >> tucker: it's a patronage system.ik these groups likely were paid millions of dollars.. >> tucker: they have got to be shutting down the program, right? >> they are not shutting it down, they are expanding it.th you know, they are going to get 250 this year. maybe 300. >> tucker: they are expanding it? >>00 yeah. >> tucker: there is really no doubt.t. so not only dumb, corrupt, presiding over the destruction of new york city, is there a worse mayor in the history of this city? >> mayor de blasio has been very lucky. he has had a great run with the economy and tax revenues flowing.it

so, he is probably the luckiest mayor in new york city. [laughter] he never had to budget. >> tucker: i guess that's all that matters. i hope someone looks into this. no one ever will. seth, thank you very much. seth barron. a maryland woman was trying to make a point about segregation which she peg created a whites only yoga club. now she is getting vilified. people are claiming she is for the thing that she was against. of course, she joins us ofnext. ♪ ♪ (woman) candace, two minutes. too late for lunch. starkist saves the day. sweet and spicy tuna in a pouch! smart choice, charlie. (charlie) no drain, no pain. just tear, eat... and go! try all of my tuna, salmon and chicken pouches.

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yoga group on web site. group was quote to allow space for white women to gather in the name of yoga surrounded by the people of white people, white yoga instructors. any group. the group she put online was completely fake. she was making an important and too often, too seldom made point. segregation is coming backat to this country in the guise of racial safe spaces. it's a point her critics seemed determined to miss and misrepresent, of course, because they are dishonest. pat brown joins us tonight. thanks for coming on. i want to make clear for the third time, you are opposed to the growing racial segregation in this country, correct? >> absolutely. i grew up in the time of martin luther king saying he had a dream that he wanted equality and he wanted everyone to be together. he wanted his children to be

judged by their character and not their color.ha he wanted black children and white children to hold hands and be brothers and sisters. it was going that direction as i grew older. then we had the civil rights act of 1964, which told people you cannot have a business, you cannot serve the public and put out a sign that says one race only, in that case in those days white only. and then things were getting better and then 1979 i married a black man. i never thought twice about it, and then i had children.ch i have two biracial c children and one black child who is adopted. and we went on with our lives. was there problems along the way? of course you run into that as time went on. my husband did file an eocc lawsuit against a company who did discriminate against him. he eventually got the job with the company and worked for them the next 20 years. there were incidents here and there i raised my children to love everybody. to respect everybody and to judge them by their character. >> tucker: yes!

>> things were getting -- i was so relieved as my kids grew older they would do okay in life and they have done all right in life. but over the last decade i have noticed things turning around where we are now seeing things through a racial lens where groups at this point, whites in time, are being called oppressors and if you are not a white you are a marginalized person. and it has just gotten so out of hand. and i have a granddaughter now who i call a person of not enough color. and she is going to be running into these kinds of things because now she is too white and not black enough. i have been seeing this over time. groups came along and kept sending me advertisements saying you could join this group, you can join that group. i'm going, but these are all black only groups or people of color only groups or african-american groups. then i found out there were hundreds of these on the internet across our country. this is a direct violation of the civil rights act of 1964. because meet up is a multi-million-dollar business.

they made $14 million last year. $50 million. s and they rent store fronts, essentially in their internet building, they rent these store fronts for the meet up groups. people pay for them and in turn, if you have a meet-up group, you can charge membership fees like a gym, charge special events like a dance club and charge fore lessons like salsa lesson. >> tucker: they are practices desegregation. >> they hung out a sign.y if you are meet up not only permits it is absolutely permitted you can't say who you won't let in but you can say who you will let in like, again, you can say blacks only or whites only. >> tucker: we are out of time.gr but i want to be totally clear. you are making a statement and your life itself has been a statement against segregation. >> absolutely. >> tucker: and for that you were attacked as some sort of bigot and i just want that to stand as a testament to the insanity of the world we

are living in. >> that's true. the most important thing this is against the law and we don't want to go back to segregation and separation. i am going to fight and take this to court. >> tucker: i hope that you will. and i strongly hope you will come back and give us an update. pat brown, thanks so much for. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: can a member of the royal family be gender neutral? they are saying it's possible. cathy areu joins us after the break. after the break. ♪ ♪ gear up during the spring fishing classic at bass pro shops and cabela's! with huge savings on the latest gear. like booyah spinner baits for under $2. and save 50% on this pro qualifier 2.0 limited edition baitcast reel.

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>>tucker: a new megan markel says she and her husband prince harry plan to raise their baby in a "gender fluid way." it's a decision that more and more parents are making these days. to explain the trend we have kathy joining us tonight. kathy, great to see you. >> good to see you. >> the core idea as i understand sit that sex, male-female

designations are creations of society. they aren't real. nothing inherent is sex specific. so you can choose whether your child is a boy or a girl. is that the idea? >> the child will choose what the child wants to be. we're facing a genderless future. a gender-unisex future. magazines are coming without unisex names for children so you can name them harper or blake so they can fit into the future of this genderless society. tucker: leaving the magazine aside, leaving aside the scientific question of whether this is fantasy, which, of course, it is, rather than reality. >> it is reality. tucker: why would you want a genderless society, isn't like the whole point that the sexes

are different and that's a good thing? why would you wantd to eliminat those differences? >> we're always teaching our children to be who they want to be. will smith says his son is fearless. smith is not afraid to wear skirts on runway or dresses. his son is who he wants to be. strong, fearless and unique. that's who we want our kids to be. >> you just said we'reo encouraging them to be all the same, unisex. a sexless drone. >> not sameness, unique actually. absolutely not. tucker: so in ignoring differences we're accentuating differences? >> we're doing who we want to be. we're showing children they can be who they want to be. if a boy wants to wear a dress that's okay. if a girl doesn't want to wear a dress and play with barbies, that's okay. tucker: i wouldn't argue with this but i'll still confused about the details. i'm sure you'll come back and

explain this brave new world we're entering. thank you. that's it for us. we could go on for monday but you'll have to wait until monday at 8:00 p.m. have a great weekend with the people you love. sean hannity right now. who >> welcome to this special edition of han anity, i'm in tonight for sean who is making his wayay back from vietnam. for the hour we're going to do something no other network will do.. we'll actually examine the democratic party's mission to radically transform america into a socialist nation. as we speak, 2020 democrats and their colleagues in washington are promising you the world. free healthcare for all, free higher education for all, free housing for all, universal income, no more fossil fuels, no more nuclear energy, no more gas powered cars, no