democrats and when you put something up as was just put up before the senate, everybody on the democrat side votes for it. by the way, i have to say one thing. they're lousy politicians and they have lousy policy. they have policy i could neversome if i wanted to. but, but, big but, they always stick together. and the republicans don't. remember that. [ cheering and applause ] >> remember that! they always stick together. they vote in blocks. they have 47. we had a tremendous victory. we were were given no credit. i can't go and campaign for all of the people in the house. too many. and guys like meadows wins by so many points. he doesn't need any help. he doesn't need it. you need any help? i'm okay. they win by 30, 35. they're okay. these guys -- you know the funny

thing? the ones that love trump, the ones that are really the trumpers like he meadows, jordan, gates, so many of them, i could name so many, they're the ones that win. i mean, it's like they don't even have an election. it's the one that's sort of they're shy about embracing what we're all about, they get clobbered. they get clobbered. take a look. those are the ones that get clouggetclobbered. they're all starting to find that out. just this week senate democrats opposed legislation to prevent the killing of newborn infant children who survive abortion. virtually every democrat voted against protecting these precious babies. everyone. they vote inand we did have thae didn't like got out.

they said they retired. they didn't retire. they were retired. [ cheering and applause ] >> they said these two senators have decided to he retire. no, no, no, they retired because they had like very little support, like how about 5% and 8%. no, we did great. we had 53. we picked up in the senate. they were going to win the senate. remember? i tell you, folks, i worked hard. i did. 32 big, fat rallies. and those rallies brought us to a tremendous t senat tremendouso we can continue onward with our judges and our progress. [ cheering and applause ] >> and the fake news back there, they love to say donald trump suffered a big defeat. first of all, we won the senate. which frankly judges never -- you know, hate to say it, in all

due respect for us, the senate, far more important. i really worked hard. but think of it. we won the senate and we had this like tremendous victory. we get no credit at all. wait until you see what happens. they say donald trump suffered a humiliating defeat. i said i wasn't running. and one of the commentators, i aplesappreciate it on one of thw where they say i suffered a defeat. the commentator said excuse me, he didn't run. not all our candidates were great, let's face it. you can only do so much. but wait to you what's happening when i do run. what they don't say is governor of ohio -- great guy, mike. he was down six, he won by seven with one day. he was down by six, one day into the election. i went out, i campaigned, worked

hard, made a speech. jim jordan was there. everybody was there. it was a fantastic crowd, like this, like this, and all the people in the other ballrooms that are waiting for it, and he ended yo up winning. he was down by six. he won by seven. one day. then we have georgia, the governor of georgia, great guy. where's georgia? great guy. he was losing in the primary by 10. i got a call from david perdue and sonny perdue, two great guys, could you endorse him. said let me check. i checked him. he was a trumper before trump was a trumper and i said i love this guy. he's down by 10. he won by 40. do you believe that? i endorsed him, mark. he won by 40. then he had a tough race against the new star of the democrat party. not democratic.

it's democrats. we have to do that. you know it sounds prettier when we use democratic. i hate to say the speech, the democrat party because it doesn't sound good but that's all the more reason i use it. they should change it because it sounds much better. rhetorically it's much better, much better. but then he had an electionagaid me after the state of the union address. i didn't didn't think was great she's their star. who showed up? oprah winfrey, michelle obama and president obama and they campaigned for her and they worked so hard and all our man had was trump. and we kicked their ass. [ cheering and applause ]

>> it's true. we had a rally at the airport where 55,000 people showed up te airport. there was one hangar, three other hangars that were full. they had so far back. the problem was they gave the press like these guys, they gave the press too good a location. the people behind them couldn't see properly. i was so angry. we had 55,000 people show up. i said you're going to win the election. he won it fairly easily against their star and now david perdue is going to win as senator 2020 and then we had florida and many others. [ cheering and applause ] >> and we have a candidate, ron de santis, a friend -- [ cheering and applause ] >> a friend of many of us in

this room. but nobody knew he was running. he was running against in the primary somebody that was easily going to win. he was scheduled to be the next governor of florida but ron's been great to me on the witch hunt. he's been a defender of me against these phony charges of russia, russia, russia, russia, russia, russia. my wife said you never spoke to anybody from russia, darling. i said that's right. but ron de santis -- i like people that defend me. when people defend me, i defend them. so he came. that's why i like mark. that's why i like mark levine. and i'm not sure a lot of people like him. he's tough as hell. but i like him. i love him. but then we have florida. so ron de santis is at three. three. he calls up, sir, could i have your endorsement. i said ron, you're at three. your opponent is agriculture,

commissioner, has $22 million in the bank, poll numbers are very good, he's up in the 20s, 30s. i said ron, don't make me do this, ron. sir, i can win. all right, ron. here we go. because i know if he loses, which almost never happens when i endorse someone, almost never, only one time and that was because it was done in the middle of the day of the election. nobody knew i did it. they got home, they say i didn't know trump endorsed him. but we rarely, rarely lose. you said ron, don't do it. i said all right, i'll do it. he went from three to 60. to 60. [ cheering and applause ] >> and then he ran against the guy who had unbelievable support. he had every celebrity going to florida. he had money all over the place. and ron was in there pitching and i was in there pitching with him and now we have a great

grosser nogovernor in the statef florida. [ cheering and applause ] >> and i could mention many others, other governors, many other states. i'm not going to bore you with it. i really think that it's incredible what we did. in the midterms. i think it's incredible, governor of florida, governor of ohio remember, you can't win unless you win the stat state of ohio. we got the state of ohio. as we den fen defend american vt home, we are also defending american security abroad. we have secured all sorts of funding, all sorts of record everything, and we will never forget our military, we will never forget our veterans, we are taking care of our veterans like they've never been taken care of before. we just got them choice so now they can go see a doctor.

[ cheering and applause ] >> now they can go and see a doctor. instead of waiting i waiting onr weeks and weeks and weeks. and we got them accountability. you couldn't fire anybody in the v.a. you had people that took advantage of our veterans. they hit them. they were sick people. you couldn't fire them. you had thieves that were stealing, openly stealing. you couldn't fire them. i got a bill passed, v.a. accountability. now you look at the guy, you say get the hell out of here, you're fired, get out. [ cheering and applause ] >> nobody thought we could get it, for 40 years they tried to get it. for 40 years they tried to get it. they couldn't get it. and v.a. choice, they thought for many, many decades they've been trying to get v.a. choice,

you couldn't get it. now instead of waiting online for two days, nine days, three weeks, people were dying. people that weren't very sick would be dead by the time they saw a doctor six weeks later. now these great veterans, if there's a big wait, they go outside, they go to a local doctor, we pay the bills, they get better, everybody's happy and we actually save a lot of money, if you can believe it. and i got that approved after 44 years of being unable to get it approved for our ve veterans. we love our veterans. [ cheering and applause ] >> and just in finishing up, as you know, i just returned from vietnam where i had very productive meeting with chairman kim jong un. very productive. we get along. we've developed a good

relationship, very good. and made great historic progress. and i do get a kick out of all these people in previous administrations, donald trump should not under any circumstances be doing this or that, they tell me how to negotiate. these guys died. one administration gave billions of dollars to him and got nothing. and we haven't given him anything yet. i look forward to maybe doing something at some point. but i know one thing. i'm going to get other countries to give. maybe not -- i'm going to get other countries to give, if it all works out. if it all works out. but i had to walk. because every once in a while you have to walk. because the deal wasn't a deal that was acceptable to me. i don't like these deals that politicians make. they make a deal just for the sake of doing it. i don't want to do that. i want to make a deal that either works or let's not make it. but the one thing we have done- [ cheering and applause ]

>> is we have no testing, no missiles going up, no rockets going up, no nuclear testing. we got our great people back. we got our great, great people. and that includes our beautiful, beautiful otto. otto warmbier, whose parents i've gotten to know, who is incredible. i'm in such a horrible position because in one way i have to negotiate. the other way, i love mr. and mrs.warmbier and i love otto. and it's a very, very delicate balance. he was a special young man and to see what happened is so bad. was so bad. and a lot of what i do with respect to north korea and any success that we hopefully have and we've had a lot, given no credit. they don't remember that in the last days of the obama administration rockets were flying all over the place, nuclear testing was going on,

mountains were being -- these are big mountains, they were being shoved over, three, four inches. people thought it was massive earthquakes. they found out, no, it was nuclear weapons, nuclear testing. so much. we're getting the remains back of a lot of our soldiers from many, many years ago. [ cheering and applause ] >> mike pence was in hawaii, it was one of the most beautiful ceremonies. we made a lot of progress and we'll continue to make progress and i really think what we're doing there is very important. but we actually had to walk but i think we had a very good meeting. in fact, when i came home, they put out a statement that actually they were willing to do much less on the sanction front. but you see, that's not what happened there. so already i think we're negotiating and i'll tell you this. north korea has an incredible, brilliant economic future if they make a deal. but they don't have any economic

future if they have nuclear weapons. it's really a bad thing for them. so we'll see how it all goes but i think it's going well. i think we learned a lot over the last couple of days. and again, the relationship seems to be very, very strong and that's an important thing, especially when we're dealing with this kind of a situation. [ cheering and applause ] >> for years you watched as your leaders apologized for america. you saw that. we would like to apologize. i'm not apologizing. [ cheering and applause ] >> now you have a president who is standing up for america after decades of building up foreign nations. we are finally building up our nation and we are doing it with american hands, american grit, and with beautiful, beautiful american steel. [ cheering and applause ]

>> we are fighting to ensure that every young american inherits the same blessings and the same boundless opportunity that our an sees ancestors fouo secure with all of their heart and might. now more than ever, we need the proud men and women of cpac, and i want to thank everybody here because it is incredibly incredr organization is incredible, matt and mercedes, incredible. you're energized, you mobileized, and you're engaged. we need your voice, we need your patriotism, we need your incredible spirit. on the 4th of july we are having in washington, d.c. a great tribute to america. i hope you can all come. 4th of july, keep it open. we want to bring millions of people into the city and we want

people to come who love our country. those are the people we want. the 4th of july. [ cheering and applause ] >> a salute to america. now is the time to embrace the promise of our history. now is the time to defend our american legacy. and now is the time to seize our glorious destiny. by the way, i'm watching this, there's not one person that's left and i've been up here a long tile. i said matt, is that okay. he said i love it, don't leave but not one person. so if you hear tomorrow when they read, people left. nobody left early. there hasn't been one person that's left. but when you read it, you just say fake news. this magnificent nation will always be the home of those who cherish life, who love liberty,

and who defend the sacred rights given to us by all mighty god. chaff. >> together.[ cheering and appl] >> together we are one people, one family, and one nation, forever united behind one great american flag. [ cheering and applause ] >> thank you to everybody in this room and to all of the other rooms all over the campus. and all over the country. we're hooked in all over the country. thank you very much. i want to thank cpac, what a job they've done. what a job matt shlapp and his family have done in such a short period of time in bringing this to a level like never before. god bless you. god bless the united states of america. thank you very much. [ cheering and applause ] arthel: president trump capping off a jam-packed week with a

speech that lasted two hours, two minutes at one of the biggest conservative gatherings of the year. the president just wrapping up his speech at the conservative political action conference, otherwise known as cpac, just outside washington, touching on a variety of topics as he addressed enthusiastic audience that he says did not leave the room. hello, welcome to america's news headquarters. i'm arthel neville. eric: i'm eric shawn. the president defending the emergency declaration on the southern border, warning about crimes from i'l illegal immigra, ridiculed the mueller investigation, defended the economy, talked about otto warmbier and talked about democratic policies, among the targets, the green new deal. >> green new deal, i encourage it. i think it's really something that they should promote. they should work hard on. it's something our country needs

desperately n have to go out and get it. but i'll take the other side of that argument, only because i'm mandated to. they should stay with that argument, never change, never change. [ laughter ] >> no planes, no energy, when the wind stops blowing, that's the end of your electric. let's hurry. darling, darling, is the wind blowing today? i'd like to watch television, darling. [ laughter ] arthel: for more on this now, let's bring in james pindel. that was a little cza sardonic edition of that speech, the president egging on i the democrats' green new deal. he was there free-styling as he does at those events. what was his mission at cpac and did he accomplish it? he uses the cpac to -- that

platform to speak to his base and is the president's messaging for his base and the cpac crowd the same or is it different on levels? >> i think we're going to be on it to kind of understand what the messaging was. he very early on said he would go off script and he certainly d as you mentioned, over two hours. pretty much every topic in american life was addressed. i don't believe according to my notes he addressed the bryce harper situation, leaving the washington nationals foress at r situation and topic he came up with. one thay when you step back, the president really was enjoying himself. he finds this to be fun and obviously the crowd -- any crowd likes to see someone who enjoys doing what they're doing. it was obviously very highly entertaining. i don't think he walked in with a particular message. in previous years we talked about this dynamic about would donald trump be fully accepted by conservatives and it was

later on could he fully take over the republican party. those things have since came and went. he has done and accomplished both. this was basically a rally for him to have a good time. after a he very busy week. arthel: he did that and the audience seemed to enjoy that. let me pull up another comment the president made regarding the green new deal. >> under the green new deal, which somebody described as a high school term paper, written by a poor student. [ laughter ] >> i see these white hairs, long-time senators standing behind this young woman and she's ranting and raving like ae parts of the president's speech today aimed at denigrating democrats and their early messaging on the campaign trail? >> you know, i think it's very interesting, it was a very good question there, because most of

us we thought this afternoon would be a split screen sort of event and it was an event that both bernie sanders and donald trump would like. trump obviously right outside of washington, sanders kicking off his campaign in the hometown of brooklyn. you thought this was the vision donald trump would want, a self-described socialist and a frontrunner in the democratic party against himself. but those themes of socialism really didn't come to the forefront the way that you might have expected. he veered from topic to topic, from the 2016 election to the 2018 election, talking a lot about that, the border wall and the national emergency he declared, north korea, a number of topics. you didn't have a clean line where he has been trying to make since the state of the union address about socialism on the one hand and what he would argue is economic freedom on the other. arthel: bernie sanders, senator sanders wanted the juxtaposition

of the two rallies because he is touting himself as the self-made man from brooklyn and touting the president as someone who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. so look, it's up to the voters which method will resonate with them. i want to touch on this, though. because towards the end there, again, it was two hours and two minutes the president spoke at cpac. towards the end he was talking about north korea, the summit, saying it was a very productive meeting that he had, saying that we haven't given him anything, meaning that we haven't given kim jong un anything but he had to walk. he said the deal wasn't a deal that was acceptable. so was the president saving face on any level for not returning with a signed deal, although that was a tall order. >> it deferly was defer definil order. some were questioning whether we should be meeting with kim jong

un unless we had something to sign, where we had particular progress. we're giving a leader from a her mitt nation the same status as the president of the united states by even having the meeting in the first place. i think if he should walk back anything, it should be his statements about otto warmbier and whether or not he believed the north korean leader knew anything about what happened with him. i think he tried to walk that back a little bit. in terms of north korea not coming back with a deal, clearly he's trying to change it. to be fake fair, it's hard to cp with a deal, hard to trust kim jong un on anything. arthel: was that enough? i was here, backup for ed henry that night and i was watching it live when the president said that at 2:45 a.m. local time, 2:45 p.m., it stuck in my mind when he said he believed kim jong un and his remarks that he didn't know what happened to otto warmbier at the time. so much of what happened. and so today was this an attempt to somehow try to walk that back and was it enough?

>> i think it was was an attemp. whether it's enough, i'm not sure. honestly, i think we'll be moving on to the next news cycle, the next 15 minutes, so we'll probably leave that as is. he clearly tried to clean it up a little bit. arthel: eric is going to touch on this later with gordon chang. i want to move on in terms of political theater or any policies the president touted today. how much of what he said will be used against him by democrats? >> well, i mean, democrats will try to use anything in particular against him. i think if one singular moment, it was the extended discussion he had about robert mueller and the investigations on capitol hill, even using an expletive to describe it. and i think democrats will be using that and they'll be making the argument that he did not sound like a very confident man on that particular situation, though he's obviously trying to defend himself. >> i notice he called out and

congratulated congressman mark meadows of north carolina and jim jordan of ohio who were grilling and working hard to discredit michael cohen during the oversight committee hearings. he seemed to be saying good job, guys and keep it up, at least that's what i got from that. what did you get from that? >> you heard it there and you heard it in other areas of the speech where he talked about how republicans need to stick together like democrats need to stick together, a call for loyalty out of the president. arthel: he said democrats stick together, republicans don't. remember that. thank you. eric: we'll talk about otto warmbier in a moment. first back to the race for the white house. today democratic senator bernie sanders returned to his roots, holding a large rally near the neighborhood in brooklyn, new york where he grew up. the democrat presidential contender touching on the themes that have made him so popular with progressive.

>> we are here to tell the 1% that we will no longer tolerate 46% of all new income going to the very richest people in this country while millions of americans are out working two or three jobs just to survive and pay the bills. [ cheering and applause ] eric: jacqui heinrich is live at the site of the rally in brooklyn with more. >> reporter: senator sanders is trying to shake that image of being too old or too white. he's trying to diversify his campaign and he's also sharing some personal stories about his upbringing. it's a departure from the campaign speeches we saw in 2016, sharing details in brooklyn about how he grew up in the city, in a rent-controlled department as a son of a jewish immigrant. one salient moment was when he said i know where i came from. i know what it's like to live

paycheck to paycheck. but a lot of his policies remain largely the same. the campaign will be a lot like 2016 in terms of policy. he still wants free public college for families who make less than $125,000 a year, medicare for all s. income equality and a $15 minimum wage. and of course, climate change, he supports the green new deal which aims to eliminate carbon emissions by 2030. a challenge will be reminding people that he was the first to bring these ideas to the table. he said the competition is em ee ideas and running on them also. >> the underlying principals of our government will not be lies. [ cheering and applause ] >> it will not be racism, sexism xeno phobia, home phobia

and religious bigotr big got. >> reporter: a lot of bashing the president. the president railed against him and socialism at cpac, saying that it was anti-thetical to american ideals. here's what the president said earlier today. >> i see senators that are there for 20 years, white hair, see, i don't have white hair. [ cheering and applause ] >> reporter: there were a lot of people here. there were lines down the block, huge crowd out here. it's really reflective of that large grass roots donor base that he brought together in the first day of his campaign with that record $6 million in fund raising in just day one, coming out ahead of kamala harris' $1.5 million. you can see he's drumming up a

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so they don't have anything with russia. there's no collusion. so now they go and morph into let's inspect every deal he's ever done. we're going to go into his finances we're going to check his deals. we're going to check -- these people are sick.

they're sick. i saw little shifty shiff yesterday. it's the first time. he went into a meeting and he said we're going to look into his finances. i said where did that come from? he always talked about russia. eric: that's president trump blasting adam schiff after democrats announced they are seeking testimony from trump organization executives including the chief financial officer, possibly including members of the trump family, all this after his former personal attorney, michael cohen, finished those explosive three days of testimony on capitol hill this past week, that raised questionaboutquestions about thp organization financial claims. kristin hahn, kevin sheridan, former communications director to paul ryan, welcome to you both. kevin, looks like they're going

after the trump organization financial aspects, this those do with adam wiseelburg, a long long-time chief financial officer and rona graph, the president's personal assistant. >> i think they're moving on from russia. they're going to throw everything at the wall and see what sticks. look, if the trump organization did anything wrong, we already know that the southern district of new york, where the real action is, is probably going to be lookin looking into it. the hearings on the hill have become performance theater. it's for democrats to vent their rage against president trump, the president. we know they despice. despisc. they're going to do four minutes of political speeches, ask a couple questions that are not very effective at getting to the truth of anything and target donor lists with a viral video they send out to their lists and

it will keep going on and on and on. there is no end to this. eric: do you think as kevin said this is political theater, that they're having a parade for political purposes to drum up the base. >> i don't necessarily disagree there's some element of political theater here. let's remember that the congress has a constitutional responsibility to provide proper oversight over the executive branch. if the president has done anything illegal or wrong, we should look into it. when the democra president sayse democrat calling in folks to testify are sick, i fundamentally disagree with that assertion. a lot has been made about even bringing in members of the president's family and i think it's totally appropriate to bring in members of the family if they work in a an official capacity in the united states for the white house. eric: in terms of the fdny investigation, that seems where some of the land mines are.

dealing with campaign finance with the checks the president signed that michael cohen showed and a deutsche bank loan, some believing the organization inflated basically the value and worth of some of the real estate properties, perhaps to get mortgages. that could be bank fraud, they say. >> yeah, i think that is where the action is going to be. i think the mueller report, we would have heard something more about collusion with russia if he actually had something and that report is being submitted we think soon. so look, if this thing moves on to the southern district of new york, he's got a lot more problems because he's not going to be able to -- he can't really pardon people necessarily in the same way that whoa b he would b. it's very tenuous right now for the trump administration and we don't know what they've got. they're going to bring all those folks in probably subpoena the heck out of everybody but that is where the action is right now. eric: what if the new york state authorities continue their

investigations? you've got the charity. and what if there is something found that violated federal bank rules in terms of applying for those mortgages a and if indeed some of the properties were potentially inflated. how would a financial crime by the trump organization affect the presidency of mr. trump? >> i think it affects it in a number of different ways. i mean, politically i think it would be devastating for him. he's already got his issues with russia. we'll see what comes out of the mueller report, if we're able to see that in the next month or so. i think again, this administration, if the president has committed any financial crimes or otherwise, the american people deserve to know and we will act accordingly. eric: all right, we shall see what happens as we wait for the mueller report. that on russia, the southern district on potential other issues, so we shall see. thanks so much.

>> thank you. arthel: this is a fox news alert out of sacramento. the district attorney is expected to announce whether she will file charges against police officers in the deadly shooting of stefan clark, the 22-year-old african american man who was shot last year. marianne rafferty is live on the west coast. what's happening in sacramento? >> reporter: we're expecting to hear from the district attorney a few minutes from now. as of today, the city of sacramento bracing for possible fallout on the decision on whether or not to charge the officers who fatally shot stefan clark. lawmakers were warned to avoid the legislative buildings and store owners were advised to take precaution. they're being told to be patient, have a plan to protect themselves. another local business partnership says protests just come with the territory in the capital city. they're advising business owners to a take the same security

steps they normally would. 22-year-old clark was shot and killed in his grandmother's backyard on march 18th of last year after a brief foot chase with police officers who were responding to a report of smashing car windows. they thought clark had a gun pointed at them. it turned out it was actually an iphone in clark's hand. protests ensued shortly after and have continued leading up to today's announcement on possible charges against the officers who shot clark. those officers placed on leave immediately following the shooting. sacramento's mayor issuing an apology to the family during the state of the state address. clark's family has filed a $20 million lawsuit against the city of acsense mow. sacramento. arthel: if anything happens in sacramento that warrants breaking in live we will do so. eric: a federal judge ruled otto warmbier was forced to give

a false confession. he was beaten and tortured. he was sent home deaf, blind and in a coma. how we can remember otto and what we could do in his memory. ? p3 it's meat, cheese and nuts. i keep my protein interesting. oh yea, me too. i have cheese and uh these herbs. p3 snacks. the more interesting way to get your protein.

you're smart,eat you already knew that. but it's also great for finding the perfect used car. you'll see what a fair price is and you can connect with a truecar certified dealer. now you're even smarter. this is truecar. eric: a few moments ago president trump ended a two hour address to cpac, expressing his love for otto warmbier and his parents, cindy and fred, that over the controversy over the president originally saying kim jong un did not know otto was tortured to be returned home to die. this comes as there was no agreement reached with the regime. what does that mean? otto chang, he moderated a panel this morning. he is an asian analyst and author of the book, nuclear showdown, north korea takes on the world. the nuclear issue, kim wanted the sanctions lifted but was not willing to fully denuclearize. what do you think the president

will do now? >> i think there will be further discussions. the north koreans indicated they want to talk to president trump. they did that just hours after the breakdown in the talks. and president trump today said yes, look, we will discuss this and we may end up with a deal with the north koreans. i think there will be continued dialogue. but i think it will be extremely difficult because the north koreans at this point are just not in a position to make a deal. eric: they also certainly many think will never give up their nuclear weapons. do you think they will? >> yeah, i think that they -- well, certainly they won't do it under the current set of incentives. it's in president trump's job description to change those incentives. for instance, the president can go back to the policies that made him successful before june of last year which was the vigorous enforcement of sanctions. president trump does that, sanctions notice only the north koreans but the chinese, russians and south koreans, yes, i think kim may well give up nukes and missiles.

eric: what if the missile tests continue or do you think kim will have an olive branch himself, like taking the yongbyon nuclear site offline without getting anything from the united states. >> i didn't quite hear all of that. with i don' yongbyon which is tr most important nuclear site, the issue is what the north koreans are willing to do. there's a lot of elements in i don'yongbyon. there's the old plutonium reactor which they have to close and there's a brand-new uranium enrichment facility, which has been there for a decade or so. if they were to close down both of those, that would be really important. if they're not willing to do that, there's not much of a deal there for the united states to accept. eric: what do you think kim could do right now to try to reassure the united states, if anything at all? >> well, i think the most important thing for kim to do if he really wants to start negotiations is to put out a

feeler to american representatives, especially steven beegan, the new north korean envoy. that may get things going. he may try to work through the chinese. there's reports that kim is going to meet xi jinping on the way back to pyongyang. so probably he will try to get beijing to contact president trump to get the process going again. eric: and the issue of human rights largely really kind of largely ignored during the summit. gordon, i want you to stay right there. we'll break for some commercials and next here on the fox news channel we'll remember and talk about the death of otto warmbier and what could come next to honor otto. we'll be right back. it's not sexy. or delicious. or fun. but since you need both car and home insurance, why not bundle them with esurance and save up to 10%?

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eric: otto warmbier was murdered by kim jong un's regime. here's what the president said about that this afternoon at cpac about otto. >> otto warmbier, whose parents i've gotten to know, who is incredible. i'm in such a horrible position, because in one way i have to negotiate. the other way, i love mr. and mrs.warmbier and i love otto. and it's a very, very delicate balance. he was a special young man and to see what happened is so bad. eric: gordon chang is at cpac.

here's what judge beryl howell said. north korea seized at to otto to use as a pawn. they extracted a false confession and characterized the trial, used the lengthy sentence against the united states to further north korea's own policy objectives. do you believe that kim jong un knew? >> kim jong un had to know, eric. first of all, the detention of any foreigner in north korea is a matter of great importance. it gives the regime bargaining power because these people are seen as chips in grand geopolitical strategy. so clearly kim jong un and his father knew about this and i think that what we're looking at essentially is the president was wrong when he said that kim -- he accepted kim's denial of

knowledge. eric: what should the president do? >> i think the president should do what he did today and that is to acknowledge the love and support for the warmbier family. also, the president was much more measured in his comments about kim jong un as a person and i think that's a good thing. but also, i believe the presidented should raise human rights much greater -- to a much higher level than he has up to now. and the reason is we sort of think if we raise human rights, that undercuts our ability to get a nuke deal. i think it's actually the other way around. eric: gordon chang. thank you. we must remember at toe warmbier and we shall. arthel: eric and i will be back at 4:00 eastern. please join us. va home loan benefit. but i've got some good news that will change that. newday's operation home. it lets veterans buy a home with no down payment and without paying one dollar out of pocket for closing costs. no down payment and not one dollar out of pocket for closing costs.

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it was a very interesting two days and i think actually it was a very productive two days. sometimes you have to walk and this was just one of those times. paul: welcome to "the journal editorial report." i'm paul gigot. president trump walking away from a deal with north korean dictator kim jong un in an abbrunabrupt end to their summin vietnam. >> basically, they wanted the sanctions lifted in their entirety and we couldn't do that. they were willing to denuke a large portion of the areas that we wanted but we couldn't give up all of the