no word on the marshal that was shot. rockford, illinois, about 80 miles northwest of chicago. >> sandra: police or to the other way does not. we will continue to update all of you as news comes in on that. the news continues. "outnumbered" starts now. >> melissa: fox news alert, we are awaiting house democrats to introduce and possibly vote on a resolution in the wake of by their own numbers. nancy pelosi sing the measure won't directly address remarks from freshman congresswoman ilhan omar. and that decision appearing to put democrat leaders at odds with many in their own party. this is "outnumbered" and i'm melissa francis. here today, host of "kennedy" on the fox business network, my friend kennedy. turning off on the couch for the very first time, allie beth stuckey. welcome. conservative commentator and host at least 2b. >> allie: that's not me! no.

[laughs] >> melissa: costa "fox & friends," jillian mele. chief speechwriter for former attorney general loretta lynch, jake maccoby. this is a fun and exciting cash to the! are you ready for us? >> jake: always! >> melissa: allie beth, are you ready? let's get to it. we may see the text of this was was not a moment and exactly what it says has reportedly been the focus of a fierce debate inside the democratic caucus. some democrats are calling for clear repudiation of remarks from minnesota congressman omar after she suggested that some americans are putting loyalty to israel over loyalty to the united states. several freshman democrats have railed against the congresswoman in her defense. not sure about that. okay, here is representative rashida tlaib yesterday. >> i can tell you, when she speaks about those issues, what i hear is her trying to uplift

my grandmother in palestine, in the west bank. saying that there are real, actual, factual evidence to show that there is human rights violations. >> melissa: that was rallying in her defense, by the way. i misread that. but other democrats including for linda ted deutch say congress needs to send a specific message. >> i want a very strong correlation of anti-semitism to pass in the house today. the fact is that using anti-semitic tropes like the dual loyalty charge, which i take so personally -- both as a member of congress and the son of a world war ii veteran. the linkage is unacceptable and must be condemned. it's important we do it clearly, singularly, and today. >> melissa: chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel is lame on m-uppercase-letter with more. my question asked to go melissa, good afternoon tea. house speaker nancy pelosi was asked about ilhan omar and the controversy brought her a time

ago. >> it's up to her to explain, but i do not believe that she understood the full weight of the words. when you're an at a cafe like i was, i understand how advocates come in with their enthusiasm. when you cross that threshold into congress, your words weigh much more. >> several weeks ago she suggested support for israel was all about the benjamin's, a reference to $100 bills. more recently she said those who support israel are declaring an legions to another country. when some of her fellow freshmen stuck up for, the plan was to broaden the resolution to include other forms of discrimination. >> we are in a time in this country where we are seeing a rise in anti-semitism, a rise in islamophobia, a rise in racism and bigotry. considering what is happening around the world of the rise of authoritarianism, it seems a

good time, figley , to make a statement of our values and defend -- >> of lawmakers it should be some water down resolution, that congresswoman omar should be bumped off the foreign affairs committee. >> representative omar can say whatever she wants. it's america, she is elected. the democrats can take her off of the committee that has to do with these issues, because every thing we say on committee may not make front news headlines in the united states but it does in the country we are talking about. think about the impact. we do the democrats stand for? >> others are calling on the congresswoman to apologize. >> >> send message. do some allowed. anybody speaks it, believes in it, is going to be called out and shouldn't be in any party, democrat or republican. >> this has certainly expose some cracks in the house democratic caucus. some suggested it should be an easy thing to condemn anti-semitism, but this has turned out to be quite a fight this week. melissa? >> melissa: mike emanuel,

thank you for that. i'm going to take that up to the couch. jake, what is your reaction? >> jake: so, i'm jewish. i think that we do need to be much more careful, much more empathetic, much more thoughtful about the language that we use when we talk about israel and the jewish people. i think that we need to be very careful about making distinctions between the current government of israel and the jewish people in general. >> melissa: do you think she did anything wrong? >> jake: so, i think that we all need to understand the way that our words are taken. i don't know how these words came about. what i do know is that these tropes are harmful. one recruit will not can correct them, it's really important to correct them. i also don't appreciate becoming -- being used to make a

political point. >> melissa: what do you mean? >> jake: i think a lot of the conversations going on right now are just ingenuous. >> melissa: like what customer give me an example. >> jake: you've got the same people who stood behind donald trump when he said that they were good people on both sides in charlottesville. these are the same people who turned a blind eye to steve king for ten years. the same people who have been dog whistling to their supporters every time they are up for reelection, saying, "how dare you attack my friends, the jews?" frankly, it's pretty insulting to watch that happen. >> melissa: grantee that point, do you still think that what she did was wrong? does she owe an apology to anyone? again. >> jake: i think it's important that she understand how those words are taken. i think a lot of people don't. particularly i think a lot of non-jewish people don't. i don't single her out here.

i think a lot of non-jewish people don't -- they don't understand how those tropes are used, because -- >> melissa: she's been told a couple times though. does it feel to you that it's intentional? from the outside it looks like she has sorta been told what she is doing is offensive and then she does it again. she is told and she does it again. so it seems like she knows it's offensive. and she's doing it anyway. >> jake: there have been two instances where there have been comments made that were inappropriate, in that they sort of backed up against these tropes. >> melissa: three. the 2012 tweet where she talks about -- >> jake: i'm speaking more recently. since she's been in congress there been two issues that we are talking about. i don't know how big that issue is, because we haven't spent a ton of time getting to know her. and i come as a jewish person, frankly, would rather make allies and have conversations and be able to help turned on the temperature on this than to

sort of have our first reaction be one of rage and anger and frustration. >> melissa: allie beth? >> allie beth: you mentioned that republicans kind of stood by president trump when he said there were five people on both sides. not all republicans did. love republican said that simply unacceptable. so if you want to take that argument and kind of put it on that, that's what they're doing now. they were really against present traversing their refund people on both sides. nancy pelosi is saying, "we are not going to include her name in this resolution," when this is about her. and "oh, by the way, will include other forms of bigotry." that is exactly like president trump. shamefully, i believe saying there are five people on both sides. so if you didn't like it then, you should be doing it now. >> jake: i think there's a big difference between defending neo-nazis who are marching -- >> allie beth: against anti-semites? >> jake: hang on a second. making comments -- >> allie beth: >> kennedy:

what dude anti-semites and neo-nazis have in common? >> jake: if you are saying that she is the same as neo-nazis -- >> kennedy: i think jewish people are targets of the rage and neo-nazis. that's incredibly unfortunate. i think you should take a much firmer stand against this kind of liquid. >> allie beth: is absolutely right, democrats have a wonderful opportunity now to squash anti-semitism, particularly in their own party. there will be times to talk about trans phobia and islamophobia and denouncing racism in all its forms, but you don't want to water this down. this is critical it is incredible important. it's okay to say, "you know what? she said something wrong. this speaks to her intention." this is not accidental. this is not someone taking issue solely with israeli foreign policy. those in the democratic party, particularly some members of the freshman class, who are softening what she is saying, i think that's actually -- >> jillian: follow what you

said, i don't know how you felt about come up when you're nancy pelosi earlier this morning saying, "i don't believe gender is the full weight of her words," you are an adult woman who has this role now. you've been elected to this role. how do you not understand full weight of your words? i think that is something that was softened with nancy pelosi saying that this morning. i stood there and i was like, "did she really just say that customer you are an adult woman." >> kennedy: she's also saying she's an idiot. l1 omar several times has faced backlash for the things that she has said. over the years. this is not the first time. this is not "oops, what did he say?" she knew exactly what she said. she knew the subtext was given to a very painful place for jewish people. >> jake: what i think is -- i think this is a good opportunity to educate. because i think there are a lot of these tropes that -- i mean, they are often mixed together and made acceptable on purpose by people who want them to

become part of the dialogue. but i think than it sometimes becomes difficult for people to kind of tease them out and figure out when they are intentional and when they are not. i dig it's really important for us to be all educated about why these things come from and how to avoid -- >> kennedy: just denounce it. you can denounce anti-semitism. that's okay. >> melissa: 6 i do denounce it. >> melissa: i wanted to people what we are looking on the screen. they are getting ready to introduce this very thing that we are talking about. as we get out any more details about it, because we don't know specifically what it says, we haven't been told yet. we will bring you back to that as the news warrants and as we get more information on that. in the meantime, a shocking and deeply personal moment on capitol hill yesterday. in case you missed it. arizona senator and former air force pilot, martha mcsally, told a hush hearing that a superior at raped her. this person was an officer of the time. why she waited until now to come forward, and what it could mean for the military and the may too

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meeting with the house intelligence committee yesterda yesterday. >> i told them at any additional information they would want, they should feel comfortable to reach out to my counsel and i would continue to cooperate to the fullest extent of my capabilities. >> kennedy: meanwhile, former house speaker newt gingrich says new revelations may put cohen in more legal trouble. >> he seemed to be perfectly happy doing whatever he was doing, until the fbi occupied his office and he was faced with going to jail. suddenly he had a conversion experience, because i think by the fbi. and what he said last week was a lie. i have no idea between last week and this week which is the real truth, but he's clearly in danger once again of having committed perjury. >> kennedy: kevin corke is live at the white house with more. kevin? >> i tell you what, kennedy, really something. we're talking about battling lawyers, parsing words, and the truth is inescapably clear. let me pose a question -- did

michael cohen why when he said he had not asked for a pardon from the president? well, he said. in his testimony on capitol hill that the answer is no. but his lawyer, lanny davis, is making a bit of a clarification. the mission part of a statement as a sort of laid out a date that i think you will find a port for your discussion. he said prior to michael cohen's decision to leave the joint defense group and tell the truth, on july 2nd 2018, michael was open to the ongoing dangling of a possible pardon by trump representatives. privately and in the media. he said this. this is probably the key part of the statement. "during that time period, he directed his attorney to destroy possibilities of a pardon at onr rudy giuliani as well as other lawyers advising president trum president trump." then he goes on to say, "well, listen, after july 2nd, mr. cohen authorized him to say publicly that mr. cohen would never accept a pardon from the president even if it were offered." thus, began his testimony the

oversight hearing true. as you can imagine, the president's lawyer, rudy giuliani, pounced in a series of tweets today. among them, he said this. "i have never asked for a pardon from mr. trump." as lawyer lanny davis has said he, cohen, directed his attorney to explore a pardon. you just heard me tell you that. "never means never, ever, not after july 2nd, 2018, which is the latest deception. another perjury and more prison." giuliani added another tweet, "what a tangled web we weave when he first practice to deceive. "by his count their nursery perjury's but the real question remains, will come of t customer kennedy? >> kennedy: fantastic. the answer to your question earlier, cinnamon life. thank you very much. >> allie beth: that's where it's at. [laughter] >> kennedy: here's democratic star michael cohen. is he the best shot the democrats have for unseating the

present? >> jake: first of all, that's not the culprit second of all, no. >> kennedy: but he's a star. >> jake: to who? he's the former fixer. it's usually best for a president not to have a fixer. it's not something you want to be having if you are outside the criminal element. >> kennedy: you can tell that to hillary clinton with the brothers, sid blumenthal. >> jake: when someone is called a fixer, it means something pretty specific. i will say that this is also why you have corroborating evidence and corroborating witnesses. it's what you bring in people like alan weisel break and matthew calamari, who is a real person and that is his real nam name. that's why you have these conversations. that's why these are the stations are so that's why they continue to go on. no one is saying that michael cohen is a choir boy, because that's how this -- the u.s. attorney or anybody who has been in in a criminal attorneyl

tell you that when you're dealing with shady characters, e people who turn them are also shady characters. that's what we are grappling here. even if the information from documents, checks -- >> kennedy: but they're so much shade, jillian. it's really hard to tease out from someone like michael cohen what is truthful and what is helpful, from what is just purely cya. >> jillian: yes, and if you like when you're dealing with somebody was a convicted lad, it's hard to believe anything they say. both parties, by the way, every single person -- i think at this point i listen to what he says and i don't ever listen to it as facts. because you just don't know when it's the truth and when it's not. >> jake: b6 it's interesting thy that, because a recent poll makes that americans actually trust michael cohen 50% to 55% over the president. and that's a real problem for the president. >> kennedy: but the seventh district of new york didn't. maybe they should operate based on -- >> jake: maybe they should get their own poll. i'm looking at the entirety of the mega people who trust cohen

more. they think he committed crimes before you begin present. that includes 30% of republicans are taking committed crimes before he became president. >> kennedy: that's very possible. >> melissa: was interesting in this day and age, and i bet people nothings notice it, any behavior is excusable because donald trump is the president. that's the argument that is kind of made over and over again. you kind of just make that that argument now. "well, michael cohen may be terrible, but donald trump is the president." it's sort of interesting. for one more minute -- what i do understand is, lanny davis put out a statement earlier today that basically confirms -- i mean, it was written for it. not even accident. but he confirmed that michael cohen lied about the pardoning thing. saying, this is a quote, "he directed his attorney to explore possibilities of a pardon at onr rudy giuliani, as well as other lawyers advising president trump." president trump." he acknowledges in the statement that his own client lied.

but he lied in his prepared testimony, which lanny davis, as his lawyer, looked at. >> kennedy: lanny davis may not be a very good lawyer. michael cohen is not a good lawyer, either. >> melissa: did not read the statement question it because he said and mother to live he able to forgive postmark >> kennedy: white as he got there at all question mcauley can do this point is further perjure himself, adding more prison time. it seems like a bad strategy. >> allie beth: i think he knows he's going to get empathy from democrats. you said that democrats and maybe still skeptical of michael cohen. i don't think so. every time the president's people come out and say come up ago by this way, this guy is racist and i knew it all along. never mind the fact that you are okay with that of the past ten years until you realize you have an opportunity with the democrats to not only get empathy but also be given credibility simply because he is pushing back. but the bad standard for credibility. >> jake: empathy from the democrats gets michael cohen nowhere. he's already going to jail.

empathy from the democrats -- >> allie beth: makes them feel loved. >> melissa: he said while he was on the stand, if there's anything the script could do for me in terms of lessening the sentence i would like that. >> kennedy: colluding with adam schiff! collusion between the intelligence chair! and the star witness! this democratic star! >> jake: i don't know why you call him a democratic star. this was trump lawyer. and rudy giuliani, by the way, is not a person would like to spend a lot of time listening to for a variety of reasons. in part because if anybody says being consistent in language, giving ten reasons for donald trump doing anything. but i do think it's important that we recognize that donald trump is a credibility problem here. when you're perceived as less credible than a 3rd-rate fixer... >> melissa: i think we were talking about michael cohen and he brought it back to donald trump.

but, anyway... >> kennedy: obsessed! [laughter] >> melissa: we got fallout as the democratic national committee boris fox news and the channel here from hosting any primary debates. a top journalism group slamming the decision. rightly so. we will break down with howard kurtz next. ♪

♪ >> melissa: new reaction to the democratic national committee's announcement barring fox news channel from hosting any of the 2020 presidential primary debates. now everyone from president trump to a top journalism group is weighing in. fox news media analyst and host of media buzz, howard kurtz, joins us live now with more on this. hi, how we! >> high there. i can't say i'm surprised by the decision on the prime rate debates but i agree with many of the prominent journalists who are writing that this is a missed opportunity for the democrats to reach a broader audience. i think the chairman tom peretz is kind of using this 11,000 word new yorker article about

fox and trump as a fig leaf. bill simmons saying, we can put that up, "we hope the dnc will reconsider its decision to bar chris wallace, bret baier, and martha maccallum -- all of whom anybody journalistic integrity and professionals of dust from debates. there the bus in the business." president trump him as he mentioned, weighing in on twitter. "they blocked fox news. i think it will do the same with the sickness that works in the radical left democrats in the general debate." the new yorker article is deeply flawed but it does include some fair points that i and others have been covering for a very long time. fox's primetime host and "fox & friends" are largely sympathetic to president trump, but not always. several of them broke with him on immigration, as you remember, before the government shutdown. the president does watch a lot of fox news and you can tell from his twitter feed that he is influenced by that. and number of people who have been at fox, including bill sean, have got to do in the administration lot of

journalists join the obama administration as well. but here's the thing -- the article doesn't really acknowledge that fox has a news division. there are all these people, except for a couple of tough moments involving chris wallace and shepard smith -- they're all these people, bret baier, martha maccallum, john roberts, harris faulkner, bill hemmer, sandra smith, who cover fairly and aggressively. the michael cohen hearings, the hush money investigation, the mueller probe, and all of that. it would be like writing a hold piece about "the new york times" being anti-trump but mostly just citing quotations and sources from the editorial pages. a real difference between opinion and the news side. and that is my bottom line on that. >> melissa: howard kurtz, thank you so much. bring it on out to the couch. so i wonder, if the dnc's job to best represent the candidates. and to hopefully get them elected. they don't have a responsibility to journalism or to journalist

outlets. looking at it from that point of view, that viewership, does it not make sense to put democratic candidates in front of a fox news audience? especially if you are asking them -- "if you think the audience is going to vote for trumping harassment of over democrats, don't you want to put them in front of that audience?" >> jake: i see two things for the first of may 2016 the republicans didn't have any debates moderated by msnbc. in fact, the only time they had them slated to moderate a debate, they canceled it because donald trump refused to go. >> melissa: do think that was smart, or do you think they should have put their candidates in front of everybody they could? >> jake: i think you go over the voters of your party are. what is a primary debate, you're going to speak to as many people of your party as you can. >> kennedy: what about states like california have open primaries now? >> jake: everything is that these debates are going be behind a pay wall. any democrat who is watching fox news right now, i guarantee they know how to change the

channel. >> melissa: what do you think? >> allie beth: didn't they have questions stellar clinton customer wasn't that cnn? i just find this extremely rich that the dnc all the sudden is is caring about objectivity. >> jake: if you read the piece that was just discussed in the new yorker, it said essentially the same thing was done from fox news to donald trump. and this was at the same time that donald trump was really against all of this. >> allie beth: and i think it was wrong. the speed when an allegation we certainly don't agree with and i don't know whether sourcing is t the proof is on that front. but keeping it what we're talking about right now, i don't know if it's in the best interest -- maybe it is in the best interest to keep the democratic candidates from being pursued by somebody like chris wallace who was a really tough question her. or martha maccallum or bret baier. maybe the democrats feeling they can't stand up to that kind of debate, prep common questions. >> jillian: i don't know that they can't stand up to it, i just think it's unfortunate. sure, you want to talk to your

base. i get that. on the other hand, i think if you want to move forward and have progress in life, like in all aspects, we want to talk to everybody. if there is an opportunity that out of, say, 1,000 people watching you could sway one person by what you are saying, i think that's worth it. for both sides. i think both such have the opportunity to talk to everybody. i think right now being a between you guys, by the way, it's a tough place to be. [laughter] >> melissa: kennedy? >> kennedy: it's interesting, because i think what democrats see is in 2016 the moderators of the fox debates on fox news were very tough on the republican candidates. and i think this is a cowardly move. because they saw how these moderators really help these candidates' feet to the fire. it was not an echo chamber and it was not necessarily a friendly form. i think that's what they're scared of. if they really want to win the general election, they need to get outside the echo chamber. you need to really extend yourself outside of the bubble and submit yourself to this

level of scrutiny. >> melissa: it was interesting, in a recent article they were talking about the industrial midwest and that this is sort of the area that trump, by surprise, took over in the last election that was typically a democratic stronghold. if that is the case, it seems like you would want to -- if they were viewers that were traditionally democrats that went to president trump, that you want to win them back. that's all the more case why you would want to get in front of trump people and show them, may be he won one election, but here's 26 reasons why you should come back to the democratic side. >> jake: i guarantee you that all the candidates running or going to be talking to people all across the country. folks in iowa, they are doing right now. they will talk to folks in ohio and michigan. >> allie beth: so why would they be afraid? >> kennedy: you know that's different than going out to a rally or to a pancake breakfast in iowa. when you're standing there. not only are they challenging

each other, the moderators are challenging those beliefs. right now they are essentially being unchallenged about medicare for all and some of the ultra-left -- >> jake: i guarantee you, though, that all of the moderators are going to ask questions about all these issues. because this is how you find out what the candidates believe. i don't think it's unreasonable to say, "we are going to go where the primary voters are and make sure they can see your message." also to say, again, based on -- >> kennedy: who has more viewers, fox news or msnbc? >> jake: who has more democrats? [laughs] speech if they want more eyeballs they should go to the police were there more viewers. plenty of independence watch fox news. >> jake: and they know where to find these debates. >> melissa: we will see pre2020 democratic contenders coming to defense of congresswoman ilhan omar over her controversial remarks about israel. whether this is a smart move, and how it may play with different voters. ♪ are you a veteran, own a home, and need money for your family? newday usa can help.

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>> jillian: welcome back. we are awaiting house lawmakers to await a resolution condemning hatred following allegedly anti-semitic remarks but minnesota congresswoman ilhan omar. that resolution reportedly putting democratic leaders at odds with many in their own party. it comes at some 2020 democratic presidential candidates come to omar's defense. senator bernie sanders saying, "what i fear is going on the house now is an effort to target congresswoman omar is a way of stifling that debate. that's wrong." senator kamala harris releasing a statement shortly afterwards, saying, "i'm concerned the sprightly being put on chromosome and omar may be putting her at risk. i also think there's a difference of criticism of policy or political leaders and anti-semitism." and then senator elizabeth warren saying this, "criticism of israel being branded as anti-semitic has a chilling effect in a public discourse. threats of violence like those made against representative omar

are never acceptable." jake, i will start with you. what you make and what this will do to their base? those coming out of defense? >> jake: i think ultimately it won't have a giant effect politically. i think senator harris said some of what i said before, which is that we need to be more careful about her language and be able to separate support for the jewish people from support of the government that israel has right now. i also think we need to be careful about the threats of violence, which ilhan omar come up representative omar, has received. i've got some sitting in my inbox now from half an hour ago. so we have to be careful about this. in fact, hate crimes against jewish people in the united states are up more than any other group. that's just in the last couple years, and they are in fact the group most targeted by hate crimes in the united states. i think it is really important that we turned on the temperature and that we try to talk about how to have these conversations about politics and

about ideology versus getting sort of tied up in tropes that can be really dangerous. >> jillian: but kennedy, is that one thing for her to make these comments and then apologize for some of them and then for people to want her to apologize for more of them than presidential candidates coming out and defending her? >> kennedy: i think it's offensive that these presidential candidates are trying to rationalize what she said. again, you are not going to inject nuance here. she's not talking coincidentally about foreign policy. there's always room for a rational discussion about the way the aid foreign countries or israel or anybody else. what she's doing is blasting over and over again these offensive and dangerous stereotypes. as you say, anti-semitism and violent acts against jewish people are on the rise in this country and in places like western europe, which is all the more reason why the democrats should have a firm and strong resolution against this specifically. >> melissa: i also think it's interesting, he listened and

needs police comments earlier -- and she is trying to separate being anti-semitic from being against israel -- and so much of the democratic party has become anti-israel. it starts to feel like the united nations, where there is sort of this pile-on of israel and in isolation, that there is sort of the outsider. it seems like that's what's happening the democratic party as well. if you look back to the last administration, it is a fair conversation to have. i don't know. we still stand with israel? i think we have shared values on human rights and democracy with israel, and that is not something that necessarily -- >> allie beth: can i ask you a question? who was in charge of the democratic party? i remember aoc saying she is in charge. it seems like these freshman congress people actually are in charge. that nancy pelosi is just

acquiescing to whatever ilhan omar or aoc said. i want to know who is actually leading. >> jake: representative democracy come we've got leaders across country. i want to point out one thing that you were talking about, which is interesting and deserves to be addressed. you are talking about democrats being anti-israel, and i don't think that's the case. i think what is going on -- and this is what i'm talking about -- i think we need to separate the idea of israel, the state, from the current government. i think that president obama's administration had a hard time with benjamin netanyahu. for a lot of good reasons. in fact, he's in a lot of legal trouble now. but i think the democrats now also have some problems with the current government of israel. i think it is worthwhile being able to tease that apart. >> kennedy: don't forget obama and the iran deal, which was very offensive to people who are supporters of israel. they felt like there was a slap

in the face. even chuck schumer came out and said that. >> jake: except you had members of the israeli defense forces, general standing up and saying it was an important deal. it is true that the leadership of israel at the time, which is the same of the leadership of israel now, was against the iran deal. but there were plenty people both within israel and the israeli defense forces thought that it was only made of go forward and make them safer. >> jillian: we are still waiting to hear more on this resolution. when they have that we will bring it to. in the meanwhile, a stunning moment at a hearing when a lawmaker said she was sexually assaulted while serving her country. senator martha mcsally and why she is coming forward now and what she hopes to change. speak of the perpetrators of abuse their position of power in profound ways. in one case, i was. upon and then raped by a superior officer. ♪ billions of mouths.

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>> kennedy: this is a fox news alert, senator sherrod brown, democrat of ohio, announcing he will not seek the democratic nomination for president in 2020. he has been on a speaking tour around the country with the slogan, "the dignity of work." brown saying, "being president isn't something you have dreamed of being my whole life or even

for years. my goal for our tour is to make the dignity of work at the centerpiece of the campaign, because i think that's the way to be donald trump." he said he wrestled with the decision but, "it's not fear of any specific opponent. it wasn't processed, it wasn't money." we will bring you any updates as we get them, and he is the second democrat to say no to the big job. a powerful and deeply personal moment on capitol hill. arizona senator martha mcsally, america's first female fighter pilot to fly in combat, revealed that she was raped by a superior officer while in the air force. here is senator mcsally on why she is coming forward now. watch. >> it's not just as a commander that i speak, but as a survivor. i just felt i needed to talk about it. but it isn't about me. i wanted to give it perspective, why i am advocating so strongly for women in the military. and why i am advocating that the

command chain has to step up and do their job to rid us of sexual assaults. >> kennedy: the air force releasing a statement, saying in part, because the criminal actions reported today by senator mcsally violate every part of what it means to be an airman. we are appalled and deeply sorry for what senator mcsally experienced and we stand behind her and all victims of sexual assault." the senator today tweeting, "thank you for the outpouring of support. it means a lot for all who have reached out." allie beth, this is obviously incredibly difficult for her. that was a very emotional and honest moment. and she raised some really good points. it's hard because as a lot of victims have said, she felt ashamed. >> allie beth: yeah, there has been a lot of criticism of the me too move and paid some of it legitimate and some of it not. but this is one of the parts of it. almost given cover to women -- and under no she's categorizes this, but given cover to women who previously might've been

afraid to speak it. especially someone so tough like martha mcsally, it allows people to say, "i'm going to share my story, too. i was scared before but i think it will have more support now." i commend her for doing that and taking the lead in this regard. it is appalling and sad, to reiterate the quote you just said. >> kennedy: people should be sprayed speak of. it's a different time now. look at the survivors coming forward who were brave enough to come forward and share their story. you talk about being ashamed, you talk about having killed. i have no expensive so i can speak to it personally, but i just think people need to be held accountable. it's a different time. >> kennedy: and a servant of the armed forces, as well. there is a respect for the chain of command. we've heard from a number of women and men who have been sexually assaulted by superior office don't like officers. threat of retaliation if forwar forward. are we in the better place in terms of dialogue for these things then we were? >> jake: i think we're in a

more open pace and i think it's important. i think it's great that senator mcsally came forward to talk about this. i do think that it helps to encourage other people to come forward, especially to see someone who is in a position of authority in a position of power to say "this is something i've dealt with, i'm a survivor." i think it's a slumber for people. i think we need to think about the way we approach this in a legislative way, his will. in a cultural and legislatively. in fact, there are folks who have been working on this for a long time. senator kirsten gillibrand has been working on this a long time. the military justice improvement act is something that she has worked very hard on, and i encourage folks interested in this topic to look it up. but yes, i think we are in a really important moment and i think this is just another important story in a long list. speech of its interesting, because there are more summers coming on her. that "leaving neverland" documentary just came out on hbo. some people were like, "why are

these people coming out now?" because they're so much internalized pain, it is difficult. i think you're right, it has opened up a conversation we are talking about things in a vastly different way. >> jillian: and essentially premature point, people say, "why now?" why not now? it's better late than never. never too late to say something. >> allie beth: and i think people fear, may be more than in the past, "am i going to get somewhat blamed for this? will i get that accusatory question that asked me what i did to put myself in that situation?" and they are afraid. i think martha mcsally actually said that she felt that when she brought this forward she was re-assaulted. a lot of people feel like that. and they just don't want to relive it. i'm glad we are in a more open space. >> kennedy: i'm glad we have a couple more moments. you got more "outnumbered" in just a moment. stay right here

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just reading all about -- [laughter] thanks to jake maccoby. you took some shrapnel. some incoming, but you survive. did you have the best time of your life? >> jake: always a pleasure. >> kennedy: what a great attitude! we are back at noon eastern tomorrow. here is melissa in for harris. >> melissa: fox news alert, it is dem versus dem is the house get set to vote on a resolution condemning hate. this is "outnumbered overtime," i'm melissa francis in today for harris faulkner. that vote following congresswoman ilhan omar's controversial remarks about israel could happen at any moment. the resolution originally targeting only anti-semitism, but democratic leadership was forced to broaden it out after some members came to omar's defense asking why she is being held to a different standard than president trump and other republicans. here is speaker pelosi, who also says omar won't be singled out in the text. >> we are working now on the