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special of the bull market's 10 year anniversary. i will be back on monday at 2 p.m. eastern for making money on the fox business network. see you then. tomorrow 10 year bull market. big deal. "the five" starts right now. >> ♪ >> ♪ >> i am dana perino with lisa, juan williams, and greg gutfeld. it's 5 o'clock in new york city and this is "the five." >> ♪ >> ♪ >> speaker nancy pelosi is facing questions about how much control she has over her new party. the final anti-hate measure did not mention omar by name.
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telling fox news our problems are called by 3 people. kevin mccarthy blasted nancy pelosi for failing to rein in her new numbers. >> the new democratic socialist swing overtook their own leadership. >> this is not the democratic party we have come to know. the transition is now complete. the democrats, socialist wing of the party controls their own leadership. >> brian, nancy pelosi really owes her new speakership to the new fire brands but to the moderate that won in swing districts and beat republicans. now it's like the only one that can get attention are the freshman members making a lot of noise. >> it's unbelievable. in the beginning it was like look how powerful she is. they thought can she go to the middle to make sure the moderates keep their seats. now the story is how did she get
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this so out of control so they needed a resolution that says anti-semitism is wrong. now we have a situation where somebody told us, this minnesota freshman, omar, when she said, i will let you change the rules because i will be wearing this headdress. 181 years no one could wear anything on their heads. now they said lindsey graham is compromised. what is going on here? we find out about her past tweets and back tracking. no one can rein them in. i thought she chose in the beginning not to, now i realize she can't. >> this is a defining moment or do you think now they can pull things back together? >> i don't think they have gotten past. it the resolution was a joke. even democrats criticized it
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even a jewish member of congress called them out for failing to address anti-semitism. nancy pelosi is facing this big challenge. the party is gearing towards the left. you look at medicare for all that bernie sanders introduced in 2016. that was considered outside of the mainstream. now you see the front runners for the 2020 presidential election embracing it. you look at the green deal. the party is going to the left. the problem for democrats is a lot of these moderate democrats who represent republican leaning districts who could be jeopardy in 2020 and alienating independent voters in 2020 and critical states that democrats need to win. >> even nancy pelosi she tapped the brakes on impeachment and
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medicare for all and the green deal. yet that's getting all the attention. >> that's the media. that's a legitimate thing. this is a controversy. this is what people are talking about. to my mind, the big slip up here is we would be discussing things like the republican revolt against the president on the emergency claim for the border. or we would be talking about the democratic bill which tries to layout new rules with regard to ethices and campaigns and voting. they have run over what pelosi wanted to be the message at this time. i will say this, i think pelosi did a great job. i don't think she surround the pressure you describe. she held her caucus together. >> she said if you won't listen to me i will leave. she left. >> 23 votes went against this resolution. not one, not even people
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anti-semitism. not one democrat voted against focussed on people especially if a jewish member voted against this resolution. >> let's get greg in here. >> no, thank you. i am looking forward to the michael jackson segment. omar slammed president obama today. >> omar says the hope and change offered by barack obama was a mirage. the caging ever kids at the u.s. border and the democratic president operated with the same broken framework as his republican successor and said:
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>> all right. back to what i was saying. >> [laughing]. >> michael jackson -- no one is safe. including president obama. she slammed president obama. doesn't she know that's our job? >> [laughing]. >> there is turf in this place. she is coming in our turf. this is what they did that was hilarious and clever. the democrats. she does something wrong. she has a litany of anti-semitic slurs. instead of putting her name up there like with steve king, they threw it into a bucket of other wrongs which dilutes the condemnation. that's the strategy by inserting it with other kinds of hate crimes and hate thoughts and so on. it's like taked a bruised apple and putting it in a pile with other bruised apples. they look the same. >> i think that's clever. i think it's a win for her. >> no. >> a flat out win for her.
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>> no, it's clever because you have the republicans can point to you, and say you republicans didn't vote for an anti-hate bill. you must be haters. what i find interesting: it's amazing how traditionally liberal the left and old school conservative the right is. you have peace talks in north korea. the democracy can't agree on anti-semitism. they want a cold war with russia again. north korea and the saudis and they want to shutdown dialogue on campus. we have a flip-flopped world. >> yes. especially when you are defending obama. >> juan, they want us to get this other topic in. the 2020 presidential hopefuls are split over the party's
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position should be. the latest elizabeth warren wanting to break up big tech giants including google, facebook and amazon. she claims they have too much power. she doesn't care about the pocahontas stuff. >> i don't know what she will go on legally to break up google. yahoo. they are not as good. take the most successful thing about america and destroy it. that's a good way to run. kamala harris wants to legalize prostitution, she can't do that. or medicare. she'll pick out something else that makes her unique. i don't think this will resonate with anyone who has a respect for the free market. >> you know who people should be
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looking at is bernie sanders. he is the only democrat who threw his name in the hat that is generating excitement on the left. you are seeing -- >> who is genuine. >> exactly. he comes across as authentic. when you have such a crowded primary field unique situations happen. bernie sanders is the one that emerges as the frontrunner in the democratic party. >> she gets credit for doing something no one else has done. >> you know what? she is all about co-opting someone else's character. now it's aoc. she is trying to be aoc. >> she was in long island city making this announcement. >> that is funny. >> [laughing]. >> get me a beer. >> and thanking her husband. >> it's difficult for the
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democrats. they were very pro-these high-tech firms. they give a lot of money to the democrats. when it comes to issues and we have seen this week with facebook, looking at the privacy and trying to revamp. >> they know it's coming. >> i think you are wrong, brian. i think there are lots of people in this country who say you have to regulate. you see the europeans saying these high-tech companies are running over our society. no responsibility. >> i am not sure about following the europeans off the cliff. new questions about over michael cohen and whether he was coached by democrats before talking to congress. new details next. >> ♪ biopharmaceutical researchers.
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>> ♪ >> ♪ >> welcome back. bombshell new development in the wake of michael cohen's hearing on capitol hill. republicans asked if he was coached by democrats beforehand. sources say cohen met with the staff of democratic congressman schiff leading up to public testimony last week. cohen's lawyer said it was appropriate and he would have done the same thing for republicans had they asked. i will start with you. >> brian is writing this and i can't read what it says. >> for the people at home. the reason i am going to dana and brian at first. they were into this before. they are fired up. >> i am not fired up. i don't really care. >> [laughing]. >> all right. >> you think it's a huge deal
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that schiff is shifty. >> dana, schiff is downplaying this. that it's normal, is it? >> i want to hear her yell at brian and you yell back. >> someone start. >> look, lanny davis is the lawyer. he is a good one and been through this before. the committee said you lied to us last time you were here. we want to go through this to walk it through. maybe that's inappropriate. they offered it to the republicanings as well and they didn't want to do it. number 1 thing that president trump wanted michael cohen said no evidence of collusion. did the democrats coach him to say that? the second headline was president trump did not directly tell me to lie. those are the two things that the president could get in trouble for. michael cohen sided with the president on those two things.
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in the democrats were trying to coach him, they did not do a good job. >> brian is raising your hand. go. >> what bothers me is the deposition -- deception. schiff said they were just worried about security. that's not true. you told me something i didn't know. that republicans were involved. they were surprised. turner wrote a letter saying was this a rehearsal? number 2, the benghazi hearings. all of that controversy, there was one time when a democrat was not inviteed to a one-on-one session with a key witness because the whistle blower was not secure about it leaking out to the media. cummings went crazy. do at this time same way. no legal reason to bring republicans in, but it's the right thing to do traditionally. it came out.
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they said trump lawyers changed his remarks. they didn't. that turned out to be wrong. they found his original the moscow tower talks stopped in january. that's what he said. >> the cohen hearings at the end of the day, does it help or hurt president trump? i would argue is absolutely helped him. >> greg, what dana said. >> i was not listening. >> if you are not interested -- i am kidding. i am joking. unlike your crazy show in the morning. >> you are sleeping until noon. >> order in the court. does it help anyone to embrace michael cohen? >> no! to your point about adam schiff being shifty, people say he is like joe mccarty and on this
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witch hunt. he is like charlie mccarthy. he is a doll on string and the strings are pulled by the media. he is being rewarded with the spotlight. he would makes john carry look like a gummy worm. he is in control of the media. as long as the media is chasing this, he will chase them. >> i got to say, i got to introduce you to nunes. >> i know him. >> we play racquetball. >> playing with the media, that was devin nunes when he was in charge of house intelligence. when you stop and review the idea this is a witness who lied to them and to the congress, the idea they would say we want to review what you are going to talk about. we want to know what you have knowledge of to prepare going over catch and kill stories with the "national enquirer." >> axelrod put out a tweet with
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the document request from 81 people saying this plays into president trump's witch hunt? >> no, it plays into the media narrative. the congress has a legitimate oversight. >> [overlapping talking]. >> you want congress to ascertain the facts before bringing any charges or going after impeachment. they are doing that. that's their role. >> isn't it redundant and mueller has been doing this investigation since 2016? >> no, we don't even know what is in the mueller report. if mueller comes up with nothing -- >> jussie smollett got invited on 16 felony count. >> breaking news out of chicago. there is more legal trouble for jussie smollett. the latest on "the five." and the explosive new
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i can't in good consciousness defend anyone accused of such horrendous crimes. at the same time i am not here to judge him. he didn't do those things to me. that was not my experience. >> well, this is a telling moment. we have the simpsons pulling an an -- episode with michael jackson and canadian stations and other stations around the world pulling his music. a statue of jackson in england pulled down and ending a broadway musical in chicago. lisa, we knew so much of this? >> that's pathetic. that it took this long for this to be this response to michael jackson. in 1993 he reached a settlement with a young child and their family for $23 million.
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his sister accused her brother of being a pedophile, what business and a 35-year-old man having little boys stay with him for 30 days. there was a documentary in 2003 talking about this. a 12-year-old cancer victim saying michael jackson told him if you love me, you will spend the night in my bed. me put celebrities on such a pedestal. we let them get away with so much. this has been in our face. it's been clear for so long. >> greg, the simpsons people were asked why pull this now? you knew what lisa was talking about. but he was acquited in 2005. although he settled a case back in 1993. >> yeah. to me a lot of this stuff is very easy virtue signaling.
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when you reduce the supply of something, what happens? you have scarsity and that increases the value. hold on to your michael jackson records. a radio station will say we will no longer play his music. it's about who sells the music. will they stop selling the music. you can still key charlie chaplain movies. there are a lot of actors who are downed drills. the inventor of the radio was a friend of musleany. you would have nothing left to watch. will you sell that? not removing something from the
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simpsons because you are not losing money. will you sell that album? >> and the same with harvey wine stein. >> if you have music produced an alleged pedophile, do you associate his actions with billy jean? >> when i first heard that the bbc decided to say we will never play michael jackson's music on any radio program. i asked peter who is british. he said that's what the bbc does, they overreact. i think your point is a good one. the music will be there. i don't understand why it's happening now. the documentaries are driving decision making like this. this is a lot. on harvey weinstein --
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>> and paris his daughter. she said chill out. why are you so uptight about? >> reacting with a calm mind is more logical than asking without rage. it feels better to mellow out with smoke weed. chill-ex my dudes. that's a cry for help. michael jackson is not my speed. he is mostly considered great. the problem is his music is so good, how do you walk away from it for generations? >> so whether you like it or not matters? >> but there is no way you will get rid of it. it's so elite. so great by musical experts. he made such an impact over the course of 4 decades. how do you get rid of all of that? that's a heck of a dumpster
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fire. >> when you look at r.kelly. black radio stations are say are not running it. it's popular music. but what he did to black women is so awful, they can't tolerate it. i think it may be people taking responsibility. >> there is no question -- you could be repulsed by the actions of these artists. what i am saying there are certain people like r.kelly hasn't been found guilty yet. they dropped kevin spacey from house of cards. i don't know where this goes. roman polanski raped a 14-year-old girl in a hot tub and is considered hollywood royalty and standing ovation at
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the oscars. >> the fact of him spending the night with little boys should have been enough. >> it's weird. no question. you think about neverland. it was intended to draw in little kids. >> breaking news about actor jussie smollett. this is hot and late here on "the five." stay with us. our big idaho potato truck is out there somewhere and we're going to find it. awe man. always look for the grown in idaho seal. to be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing it's best
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16 counts were you expecting this? >> we are working to independently confirm this. a clerk told me the grand jury returned 16 additional charges against jussie smollett. the court just closed. there are several news outlets in chicago right now that are reporting a grand jury just returned an indictment with 16 additional charges against jussie smollett for disorderly conduct for filing a false report and for all of the follow-up interviews and reports that jussie smollett gave to officers. he was originally charged with just one felony account for claiming president trump supporters attacked him.
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these new charges carry probation to 4 years in prison. he pleaded not guilty to the first charge. he is free on bond. >> we will have to see. a lot more serious. john, what do you think, 16 cou count? >> i imagine there was no reasonable ground for believing such offenses had been committed. he told "empire" colleagues this was not true and he was sticking by his original story. the grand jury did not buy it. smollett is as --
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>> on its face the story didn't seem to be credible. he understood how the left sees the world. that's how the story played into that. and assumptions about trump supporters that are racist and homophobic. the media brought the narrative. >> he will be arraigned on the 14th. >> i think this is solid. remember, his defense attorney says they were going to prove to all of us it was a hoax. we have not heard one thing about that since then. a grand jury is made up the citizens offing is who returned this indictment. that's serious. that doesn't happen if there is nothing there. >> greg, you were writing something down. your list for this weekend? >> yes, one of my brian insults.
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i predict that he choose the victim route. he will say work pressure and maybe drug addiction and life of discrimination and the consensus media will probably embrace that. the hollywood reporter says he is a victim. will the media learn? no. i watched cnn. they had "hate in america." what they did to the police years ago when they created the illusion of panic they are doing with hate crimes. they can't realize after burning their hands on the smollett stove, they have not learned a single lesson. they will cling to the hysteria. >> you said he would use drugs? >> yes, and claim a lifetime of discrimination and workplace
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pressure. >> it's happened before but this is the one time he made it up as a lawyer that's what i would tell him. >> really? >> the drugs. he is on record about buying drugs through these two guys that he then hired. >> yes. dana, when is this going away? i had never heard of jussie smollett. i can soon forget him? >> you can. i think to greg's point, there will be others. how could this happen with these hoaxes? you have had so many over the years. remember eric, who greg interviewed on fox nation. he is a crisis communications guy. he said these people that perpetrate these hoaxes, these celebrities especially, they don't realize they have been had or been caught. we are all way ahead of them.
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the grand jury is way ahead of them. he still thinks he is a victim. it's something you and i can't understand because we would not do this. >> as much as i and the grand jury, they will indict a ham sandwich if the prosecutors want it. but i think in this case the amount of evidence is persuasive. i think that hate crimes is real in this country. the victim here is not jussie smollett. it's all of the people who have to endure real hate crimes and now will be doubted. >> juan, i agree on the last part. i disagree, there is no spike. there are people who are victims of hate crimes. i will give you that. >> that's all! >> i will take my camera and say so long. >> [laughing]. >> i will argue with dana. >> i will win. >> as usual. "fan mail friday" is next.
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not by aba. "fan mail friday." i know greg will love this one. if a robot could just take over one of your daily tasks, what task would you give it, brian? come on. >> is that what this is? >> do you do any tasks. >> you don't watch this show. >> friday i don't. happy hour and lady's night. >> you go to lady's night? >> [laughing]. >> you are a strange man. answer the question! >> [laughing]. >> maybe the robot should do "the five" for you. that's what we figured out. >> i would like a robot to walk my dogs. >> there you go. >> you don't love your dogs? >> it's too cold right now. >> i know. >> they are prepared and i am not. >> juan? >> i think driving, but that's coming. the thing is i don't like losing the control by not driving. i like driving.
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>> it's like therapy for you? >> yes. >> every friday. >> he works through the answer. >> making by med. -- my bed. >> don't make it. >> i like a tight corner. >> you always make your bed. first thing you do. >> because you feel great when you come home to a made bed. >> and you feel organized. i would say laundry. living in new york i don't have a washer and drier in my apartment. you walk down the hall and wait and then fold. it's the entire process. >> there is a robot that would fold. >> they would be better at folding than i am. >> we will nothing to do as people. >> helping children. >> a robot? >> yes. >> you have such a big heart. >> i do. >> medically even. have you ever sent a text message to the wrong person?
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>> yes, but it wasn't bad. thank goodness. >> that's a great story. >> one time it happened at the white house. it was an email instead of sending it to dana perino they sent it to dana at the "washington post." >> people at home don't know who the other dana is. >> our producer, megan, do you remember the text message i sent by mistake? >> [laughing]. >> did you think if i spell checked it too? >> wow, it must be be bad. >> the producers told brian he is not to tell that story. >> absolutely not. >> lisa? >> when i was working on capitol
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hill, i sent an email to a constituent and i meant to go to the co worker. it was a happy hour plan. >> [laughing]. >> it was super embarrassing. >> juan? >> well, i hit reply all when i shouldn't. the biggest one you write know email and then all of a sudden, wiki leaks swoops in. suddenly everybody is telling me why did you say that? oh my god. >> will i forgot about that. i don't send any replay all emails. >> that's tricky. >> someone sent the wrong message to me and it was hilarious. >> was it about you? >> yes. >> was it good? >> no, the person used to work here and talked about me and how i dressed and sent it to me. >> how you dressed? >> yes. >> what was the problem?
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>> i will tell you later. >> was it phil? >> no, the person is gone now. >> this is a great question. what one thing did you not realize you were dead wrong about your whole life until the last few years? >> for me it's always music. i don't know that songs are about whatever. i find out right here on the set. i like that song. you like that? i didn't know what that was about. >> brian? >> pass. i have no idea. >> you have never changed your mind? >> i wasn't prepared for this segment. >> if you are going to be our favorite villain, you have to do this. >> i will ask it to somebody else. juan, one thing you didn't realize you were dead wrong about your whole life until the last few years? >> i don't know. this is hard. i thought i was wrong once but i was mistaken. i don't know. >> lisa? >> gosh, this say hard one.
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a lot of things i have been wrong about my entire life. >> there you go. brian, you can't think of any? >> i thought it would be fun to have a rabbit. >> [laughing]. >> then checking every day why is he still alive? it was not fun. the rabbit lasted 10 years. >> let the dogs go after the rabbit. kidding, everybody! >> the rabbit had 10 great years and i miss him today. >> interesting. >> i used to think having brian on the table would be fun. that's wrong. "one more thing" is up next. all money managers might seem the same, but some give their clients cookie cutter portfolios. fisher investments tailors portfolios to your goals and needs. some only call when they have something to sell. fisher calls regularly so you stay informed. . .
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everyone loves tom and loves tom. if he is like tom he is an awesome dude. i'm sure he had a long and great life. condolences from everyone on "the five" and the g.g. show and everyone at fox. get to the less deep stuff. greg gutfeld show tomorrow saturday at 10:00 p.m. heather, kat timpf, tyrus. 10:00 p.m. great e. show in the universe. >> dana: juan? >> he hit the jackpot, $273 million in the mega million jackpot game first he had to find the lottery ticket. he had left them at the store. here's mike. >> dana: amazing. >> i put the ticket down to put my money away did something with my phone and just walked away. >> juan: after realizing he lost the tickets he went back to the phillipsburg quick check and to his surprise he was told that someone turned in the tickets. a stranger. two days later the unemployed man realized hey, these are the winning numbers and he was a
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multimillionaire. as for the stranger who found the tickets, listen to mike. >> i'm looking for the guy that handed them in. i have got to find him to thank him. >> juan: yeah. he should thank the lucky stars. you know, saint patrick's day is coming. is he a lucky guy. >> dana: i have a nice story here. most kids spend their snow days sleeping in not these kids in new jersey. patrick is a senior at high school and rallied his friends and classmates to help shovel a driveway at 4:30 a.m. the neighbor is currently on kidney dialysis and not been able to make her 6:00 a.m. treatment an ambulance has to come pick her up. patrick and friends had a sleepover where they played video games all night so they wouldn't dozen off. within a half hour of shoveling they cleared the path and natalie said patrick is a wonderful young man and thanked all of his friends. what a good example they set these nice young guys. brian? >> brian: great story. happy birthday to the
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highest paid lineman. they said happy birthday to 29-year-old kevin zeitler. isn't that nice? two hours later they trade kevin to the new york giants for olivia vernon. is he now a new york giants he just knows that his old team wished him happy birthday. looks like an even swap. vernon was getting paid too much for not doing enough. he sat during the national anthem. offensive lineman browns have another great player. the browns are going to be a force. >> dana: we will revisit that next year. lisa? >> lisa: don't mess with this girl put jack in a head lock after he asked her to marry her. listen to this? >> what happened at school? >> i took a head lock down jack and took him down. >> you took him down? why? what did he say? >> because kids don't get married. liz his when her mom kristin told her she is not supposed
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to but the boys in a head lock she replied that's the greatest thing ever. >> dana: it is international women's day of course. that's it for us. see you back here on monday. "special report" is up next with chris wallace tonight. hey, chris. >> chris: that's what happened to w. me the first time i proposed to lorain. [laughter] >> chris: president trump sees for himself what tornadoes did to eastern alabama answered explains what happened with a disappointing jobs report. a look at what's behind a 1700 percent increase family unit apprehensions in one section of the southern border. when american children don't get vaccinated are the russians to blame? this is "special report." ♪ ♪ >> chris: good evening, welcome to washington. i'm chris wallace in for bret baier. as residents of one eastern alabama community continued to pick up the pieces after a deadly tornado, president
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