>> shannon: no drinking. it is apple juice. >> 12 seconds, ten, and nine, and eight command seven and six. we are getting fired! ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to tucker carlson tonight. there are breaking developments in the jussie smollett case. the story that goes on and on and on. as of moments ago, 16 additional felony charges. what does that mean? it means jussie smollett could go to jail. first tonight, let's say you disagree with the political views of the people who run the thcountry, the billionaire clas, the tesla drivers, the self appointed clergy and retired prosecutors and spy chiefs you see on television opining about things. if you're watching this show, you'll probably not all that impressed about these people. you don't wish them personal harm.

of course. some of them are t well eating people. but you don't think they've done a good job for america. you might have voted for donald trump to make that very point. have you ever considered what these people think of you for voting the way that you did, for daring to be insolent and disobedient? how would they punish you if they got the chance? ever think of that? wonder no more. yesterday, manafort has no criminal record of any kind. he will be 70 years old and a couple of weeks and no criminal record of any kind. his sentence is considerably longer than the national average for the charges he pled to. by the time manafort gets out of prison, he will be elderly, broke, and disgraced. but for our ruling class, that's not nearly enough punishment. they believe he must die in prison. anything less cannot be allowed. >> shocking news. >> shocking. i andng i will tell you,

as a former prosecutor, i'm embarrassed. as an american, i'm upset. >> this judge had a hard-on for the mueller probe overall. >> it's a serious crime and he got a slap on the wrist. and i think forgo that, people should be outraged. >> i find this jaw dropping. >> it's an extraordinarily lenient sentence in light of the extent >> manafort got the special clubby washington elite friendly treatment. of. >> paul manafort must die. that's what they're demanding. robert mueller agrees with them. mueller asked that manafort receive up to 24 years in prison, more than twice the average murderer in this country spends behind bars. that's a death sentence. keep in mind that al capone only got 11 years for charges similar. look, if he was a gangster, the

democratic party a much worse. is there a single person in america who believes that manafort would be going to jail if he hadn't run donald trump's presidential campaign? everyone in washington knows that. there's a lot of republicans who are grateful they didn't take the job. they are heading out on spring break tomorrow but paul manafort heading to prison. the judge in the case clearly understands what's happening here. he reminded those watching that manafort was, quote, not before this court for not having anything to do with collusion with the russian government. to influence the selection. that's true. nobody has been charged with a charge related to russian collusion.bo that's a fact. that's not an opinion. there's no dispute about it. somehow, a lot of people are still out there lying about this, probably because nobody in the press calls them on it. watch your elected official say something totally untrue in the most self-righteous possible way. >> the american people would be justified in feeling that there is some miscarriage of justice.

manafort potentially threatened our very democracy, the principles of our democracy. >> this news came out about manafort and i'm ticked off about this. >> were you shocked? no, >> this criminal justice system can't surprise me anymore. >> i think i spent more days in detention in high school than judge ellis thinks that manafort should spend in jail. >> cory booker is very ticked off that manafort may not die in jail for cheating on his taxes. keep in mind this is the same cory booker that recently spent hours on the senate floor wagging his finger over mass incarceration and our broken justice system. yet that's also the same cory booker who now is outraged that a tax cheat isn't getting the death penalty. has he ever cheated on his taxes? hope not. it would be interesting to know

if any of these hyenas has fudged a deduction or violated our banking laws. somebody should check. this isn't about taxes, obviously. cory booker knows that well. it's about using power to crush your political opponents. in order to get more power. the same principle will be on display for when manafort is sentenced for failing to registration under the foreign act of 1988. it's like hayley's comet here in washington. in the space of 50 years, between 1966 and 2015, the doj charged a total of seven people, just three of them were convicted. meanwhile, the most powerful foreign lobbyist in washington still are not registered. mueller has no plans to indict them. of course not. they never made the mistake of running donald trump's presidential campaign. chris, the sentence that the

mueller investigation recommended to the judge was up to 24el years. that's twice what the average convicted murderer spends in prison in this country for tax evasion. is that an appropriate request, would you say? >> well, they didn't actually make a request. those were the sentencing guidelines set by the court by the federal judiciary system. >> tucker: no, you are factually incorrect, they did. >> yes, they requested that the guidelines be fold. >> tucker: that was their request. honest question.uc do you think that paul manafort, who was pled to bank fraud, and he didn't defraud money, he didn't steal money from a bank. he misrepresented a loan application. no bank actually got released from paul manafort. and he cheated on his taxes, as a lot of people here do, as you know. do you think getting twice the sentence of your average convicted murderer, is that

appropriate? would you feel better about america if he had gotten that? >> no.nketer and tucker, you and i had many conversations about criminal justice. i never root for anyone to go to who hasn't committed a violent crime to go to jail for any amount of time. but there are guidelines and this particular judge sentenced jefferson for 12 years for bribery, charges later thrown out, you would think he would follow the guidelines at least a little bit. but he didn't. >> tucker: are you with the ghouls on msnbc and cnn and the u.s. congress that are shocked he won't die in prison? which he may. he's going to be 70. what's your position? >> there's still another round of sentencing for him. i think that manafort was working for bad people and he was the connection to russia in this last campaign. i don't have any formal proof of that, but i do believe it.. >> tucker: working for some pretty bad people. i guess i've been here too long to take. that seriously. you have michael cohen.

his lawyer represents the government for pakistan. which the part of the tele- pan of 9/11. are those bad people? should he go to jail for that? >> i think that he spent a lot of time advising people who wanted to bring more russian control tong the ukraine on how they could do that. >> tucker: since we're all very judgmental on that. people who lobby for pakistan, and there are a lot of them and most are democrats, pakistan supported the taliban during 9/11, people who lobbied for thaw, should they go to jail? >> i don't see evidence of them running a campaign while pakistan was interfering with our election. which russia clearly was. look, i hear a lot of gnashing of teeth on the right about people reacting here. i hope when jussie smollett gets sentenced, people are saying, that's too much.

>> tucker: if jesse's mullet is looking at prison for lying. >> tucker: i will be the first one to say this is not a police state. okay. let me ask you. >> let's hope everybody is saying he should get a life sentence, too. >> tucker: i don't know what the guidelines are. i don't think he should get more than ary a fentanyl dealer. the phoniestor person in washington is cory booker. he got on the senate floor hour after hour, telling us we are racist for putting fentanyl dealers in prison. and we need to have their sentences. he sponsored that too. now he's saying manafort needs to spend the rest of his life in prison for tax evasion. do you see the disconnect? >> i think the disconnect is how this particular judge sentenced a congressman who happened to be black for 12 years, but this guy lived anbe exemplary life, and

he said except for the lying that he he's. he's only going to get four years. >> tucker: are you saying bill jefferson wasn't guilty of keeping cash in his freezer? >> i see the supreme court threw out most of those charges and got rid of most of the sentencing. >> tucker: i'm not here to attack bill jefferson. i'm just asking what you're saying. >> i'm saying this judge is stricter on bill jefferson than he was with manafort. there were guidelines in place. he completely ignored it. there's a difference. >> tucker: your position is that for tax evasion, paul manafort ought to have spent the rest of his life in prison. i just hope nobody else has cheated on their taxes or registered -- failed to register. >> that is not what i'm saying at all.

you can go to jail for financial crimes. >> if there are going to be standards, they should be applied equally. >> tucker: good, well, i agree. let's do a quick check. half the people i know will be doing one. >> people talk about josie >> tucker: okay, thank you. good to see you. we talk a lot about prison. all the dumb people on tv think it's no big deal, whatever, die there. you are on the other side and you deserve it. one thing about people who have been in federal prison, they tend to be for prison reform because it's bad.av bernie is one of them. he joins us tonight. offers the book jailed to jail jailer. quick question for you, bernie. did you see people recommend that so and so do the rest of his life in prison, what's your reaction as somebody's who's been there? >> honestly, it makes me sick, especially cory booker. and i worked with him for the last five years on trying to get these bills past. and every meeting, everything

we've done, first-time non-violent offenders should not go to prison for life or extended time. we should look at alternative sentencing. andd then to hear him talk today like paul manafort should go to prison for 19 to 24 years, whatever the4 recommendation wa, it's bs. it's completely hypocritical and just makes me sick. >> tucker: you hear people say -- and let's just be honest. most people you see on tv are dumb. that's why they're not in finance. so, they don't know. but you do know. when you hear them say it's club fed, it's easy, is that true? >> the only people that thinks that a minimum-security camp where paul manafort should go, the only people that believes that are people that's been in the system and are institutionalized and been there for 15, 20, 25, 30, 40 years.

those people think that a minimum-security camp is club fed because they've been turned into monsters. but when you take a law-abiding citizen, a 70-year-old man, and you stick him in a minimum-security camp where the noise is atrocious, where there's filth, where you have to worry about mrsa and staph infection and hiv, and there's two people and five guys in there and you have the deprivation of freedom which is so profound that you can't even imagine it. you don't get to see your kids and grandkids. and if you don't have money, you can't survive because you can't talk tone anybody on the outsid. don't tell me that a minimum-security camp is a country club.

were club fed because you have no idea what you're talking about. you're delusional or just plain stupid. >> tucker: how do you feel, as someone who's over 40 watching your country become a place where people openly call for the imprisonment of their political opponents because they're political opponents? >> you know what, tuck or wrote about this article and basically it is all a about nadler sending out 81 letters. he's going to torment and torture and bankrupt 81 people for political reasons, selective and political reasons. it's got to stop. somebody has to do something to stop this. they're bankrupting people, destroying people's lives, crucifying people, families, kids. it's just sickening. >> tucker: it is sickening. i agree with that completely. thank you very much for your a perspective on that. >> thank you. we have a fox news alert. more than a dozen additional felonies steming from his fake

hate crime this january. trace gallagher has the very latest, trace. >> he went from one felony count of disorderly conduct to 16 felony counts. and to make matters worse, the grand jury returned two sets of charges because they say he gave false statements to two different chicago police officers and the stories were different, telling police about the racist and homophobic slurs. each set of charges carries a penalty up to four years in prison. experts say it's highly unlikely he will serve eight years, but more likely now that he could serve someye jail time, though a plea deal is also a strongd possibility. police say smollett paid two brothers $3500 to stage the attack. they say the brothers did strike him but the bruises on if face were likely self-inflicted. he could also face federal

charges for mail fraud. investigators believe been the alleged attack, he sent himself a letter with white powder that turned out to be tylenol. so far, no word for the 36-year-old actor. or his lawyers about these counts, tucker. >> tucker: thanks so much. we've got new information coming in at this hour on the smollett case. we're going to have a reaction and more straight ahead. ♪ at midas, with every oil change you get a free tire rotation.

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everything that happen >> i still want to believe with everything that happened, that there's something about justice, because if i stop believing that, then what's it all for? >> tucker: beautiful. thank you, jessie. that's my new ring tone. i'm not forget that. you shouldn't either. a month ago smollett was a victim.ur now a grand injury has charged him with 16 felonies. the indictment accused him of lying to police officers to fabricate a hate crime against himself.cc those are the facts as we know them. what do they mean? >> a contributing editor joins us. thanks for coming on. i would say you're an expert at taking three steps back and assessing the meaning of news events. what's the meaning of this one? >> well, i think we had the presumption on the part of smollett. t

presumption of innocence. it seems overwhelming that he's couple of major problems. one is illegality, filing a false police report. people have done this in the past. for example the uva case. and there really no consequences sur -- suffered. and there was no consequences for those who lied. i think it will send a message that if you lie to police about events that didn't take place, that is very serious especially in a city like chicago with a massive crime problem, you've got police who ought to be finding murderers, sool that's serious. and there's a very serious moral problem here, which is in a country that's completely with all of us at each other's throats, the last thing we need is one more reason to try to strangle each other. and when this whole thing happened als few weeks ago, you had a place involving a black man who's also gay, which made it a racial and sexual case. people supposedly say this is maga country.

which turned it into a war on trump supporters. the last thing we need in this country right now is people adding to the tension and division we're suffering already. that's why this is very immoral and illegal.ng and he ought to spend several years in jail for consequences. >> tucker: so, your final point is the one that really resonateds with me. why do you think so many of our opinion-makers in the media and onre social media are encouragig that division? >> well, unfortunately, this is something the left has pushed. they've pushed racial divisions for years, going back to the slave days and jim crow and on and on. identity politics, not looking at us as individuals or whatever shortcomings we may have, but instead by putting us into competing racial camps, sexual camps, and so on, and letting this sort of tension and acrimony continue. here we have this actor

who gets paid $65,000 per episode implicating or perpetrating this. supposedly, a raise of $65,000 a week working on empire which works out to $1.3 million. a pretty good rage but i guess he didn't like that. fortunately, he got caught. if he didn't get caught, he would still be considered a victim. he probably would have gone to the oscarsav and been applaudedy all the elite in hollywood, as this black gay man who's suffered. the most horrible consequences. gq had a headline on this.n a racist attack on jussie smollett it's far-right america's end game. fortunately the police got to the bottom of this and this whole thingy unraveled. and menacing in this country. >> tucker: it's sad to see what happened in american magazines. only the losers remain. last question. am i making this up or is there a theme here that the people who claim to be victimss tend to be the more powerful in our society? i can't remember the last time i saw an hvac repairman claiming

to be victims. it's always the powerful that claim to be victims. >> very often, people in elite schools, elite institutions what have you and rather than celebrate the victim's comeau a very sad situation. cjussie made it worse. which is of course the opposite of john lennon encouraged >> tucker: great to see you. us to do. >> tucker, great to see you. well, according to a lot of polls, joe biden has run a number of times for president, is the favorite once again for the democratic presidential nomination, should he choose to run. but who is joe biden? you'll know more about the next segment. \m /m just one free hearing test at

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officially running for president once again yet. he's going around the country getting rich speaking to corporate groups. reallyly. but if he does enter the race, he will immediately by a front runner for the democratic nomination. he's been in politics for a long time. the democratic party today is completely different from the party he joined 50 years ago. how will the party's red guards feel about biden's past? lisa boothe has been taking into this command she joins us with the results. >> hi, tucker. there's a lot there, as you can imagine. he served on the senate for 36 years, 8 years as the vice president. and with the fact a lot of positives front-runner part of the reason why he's the front-runners, you are more easily able r to raise money whn people know you like that and you have a base of support among the donor base. but there's a lot of challenges, things you've said that you have to answer to, things you have to vote on as well.

joe biden has recently come under criticism, for his treatment of anita hill. a lot of democrats felt he was too tough on her and negatively impacted anitagh hill. and remember how much trouble hillary clinton got over her super predator comment and how that impacted her 2016 presidential run. one the interactions with black lives matter protesters demanded an apology. joe biden had a similar comment he might have to answer to as well. listen to this. >> the cadre of young people, born out of wedlock without parents, without supervision, without any structure. without any conscious. we should focus on them now. but for simple pragmatic reasons. if we don't, they will, or a

portion of them will become the predators 15 years from now. and madame president, we have predators on our streets. >> and, tucker, remember the 4.4 million voters, 2012 obama voters that sat home in 2016. more than a third were african-americans. there's this comment i want when you look at the effect like kamala harris, elizabeth warren embracing slavery, there is this comment that i want to show you that biden made about school busing. i do not find it popular in the 60s to suppress the black man. the white man is now far ahead in the race for everything our society offers. in order to even score, we must now give the black man a head start or even hold the white man back to even the race. i don't buy that. a lot of these comments could end up being an issue in just where the democratic party is as

a whole. we know that the the party has gone increasingly left-leaning. joe biden may not be in the mainstream ofthe the democratic party anymore. >> tucker: i would say he's not in the same zip code. [laughter] >> that's a more interesting way to say it. z >> tucker: it's true. unbelievable. thanks a lot for that. >> happy friday. >> tucker: the russia story has completely and utterly warped the democratic party. it's driven them to become pro-war, pro-censorship, pro-china. pro-cia and a bunch of things that would have horrified them ten years ago. even cohen knows a lot about this. he's been at the heart of russia studies and politics for a long time. obviously a famous russian and a professor, and joins us tonight. thanks very much for coming on. you've been around american politics and russian diplomacy for decades.

how has this story changed the democratic party, would you say? >> some people say i've been around too long. i'm working on that. look, as a historian, i know that parties have parties within them. they're w divided. and i saw that when i was growing up in the segregated south. my father was a roosevelt democrat. for social justice, yet the democratic party was a a segregated to this party in the south. we see something like that going on today, i fear. that iss to say that the party and its candidates for the presidency are preaching social justice and economic justice and traditional liberal values, but they're pushing this russiagate story against trump in a way that i think is making the democratic party the party of cold war with russia, which easily could be hot war, the party of neomccarthyism and a

party that doesn't care as it used to about civil liberties. you made a point at the top of the broadcast about paul manafort. it seems to be a party that wants a death sentence for tax returns. that would put a lot of people in prison. >> tucker: russia seems to be the unifying force behind all o these changes. you're seeing censorship onlines that liberals in my childhood would have rebelled against, fought against, that they now support because it's done in the name of eliminating russian disinformation. >> yeah, i have a different way of formulating it. in the 20th century, we had three marriage episodes with russia or what president trump is calling cooperation. they were all done by -- i don't know if you have thought of this -- by republican presidents.

eisenhower, nixon and reagan, correct? >> tucker: gal. in that sense, trump is squarely in the republican tradition. i don't know if trump knows that himself, but he is. and yet when he does, whatever a republican president did in the 20th century, try to cooperate with moscow, it's called treason. i'm not making this up. you remember in july last year, he went for a summit with putinl the russianum leader, something that every american president since eisenhower had done, had a submit with the kremlin leader. what did they say when trump came home? treason.id driven by the democrats. so, i mean, to my mind, though i've been a kind of democrat most of my life, the democrats are becoming the party of anti-national security. >> tucker: it's bewildering for me and i know only a fraction of what you know. >> what zip code are you in?

[laughter] i'm in a very far away to zip code. >> tucker: i don't think we have cell service in my zip code. that's how far out i am. great to see you, thank you. big tech has become a critical part of the left censorship agenda, really the engine of it. does that problem have a simple fix or is it time to break up the tech giants entirely? that's a rhetorical question, you know the answer. but we have more on it next. ♪

>> tucker: most of the democratic party is happily >> tucker: most of the democratic party is happily aligned with the interest of big tech, which funds their campaign. but there is one exception. elizabeth warren.ce today she broke up a plan with the biggest tech monopoly if

google, amazon, facebook she's elected president. when somebody says something smart and true, we want to be the first to congratulate that person. we are not partisans. we're just looking for people of good faith to make good decisions. that would be a good decision because monopolies have immense power.d and these monopolies use that power to censor unpopular speech. watch. a twitter executive with a rogar podcast and basically admitted that. watch. >> your platform restricts speech. >> our platform promotes speech unless people violate our rules. >> why are people being suspended for tweeting hashtag learn to code? >> some of these contain death threats, wishes of harm, other coded language that we have seen

to mean death to journalists. so it wasn't just about the code but the context. >> that's just not true. the editor-in-chief of the daily caller was suspending nothing but hashtag learn to code. >> tucker: she's just lying. they all are. jessie kelly has himself been a victim of tech censorship. we are proud to have him on, thank you very much for coming on. so what strikes you more, the willingness of twitter and other social media companies to censor things they don't like or their complete lack of self-awareness when asked about it? >> i think they're extremely self-aware.bo they are aware of the fact of that than that right there, nobody's going to ask them the tough questions. and i'm not surprised about them censoring. that's what totalitarians do, they censor things off. we have a war with socialism int the united states of america right now.

and the socialist control all the supply lines and the conservatives wonder why we are starving to death. >> >> tucker: but you're absolutely right that they're never pressed on this by anybody except in the most sort of sensitive way. and that confuses me because journalists have everything at stake in the first amendment. they should be opposed to censorship. they usually have been. why are they no longer? >> because journalist want to be eaten last. the journalist are socialists just like the tech guys are,al just like all the media and hollywood is. all the journalists just want to be aligned with the socialist in charge of the government at the end. the conservatives better wake up and realize that making your living just off these techth platforms is dangerous. it spells trouble. it is like inviting ilhan omar to your kids bar mitzvah.

[laughter] >> tucker: i mean, if only conservatives controlled the branch of government or a chamber of commerce, congress, maybe someone would do something about it. why aren't the conservative office holdersn' who wield power doing anything to protect their voters and america and the bill of rights itself? >> well, tucker, they should be. they should be treating these tech companies like publishers. they are publishers. they censor out conservatives and they only sent throughout conservatives and have never censored out liberals they should change their tax status. you and i both know congress is going to screw that up too. congress can't do anything right. t congress couldn't sell cat litter at an event for feminists. >> tucker: i'm not allowed to laugh at that. i'm just going to nod like i don't understand what you're saying. if elizabeth warren comes out, who i haven't made a lifetime habit of complimenting, if she comes out and says let's get this under control, why wouldn't republicans alie with her in

that one thing? >> because if you give elizabeth warren that kind of power, what's she going to grab next? it sounds nice. to break up amazon, google in these things frankly, they scare me too how big and powerful they are. once you give her that kind of power, that hungry animal is not going to stop there. she's going to look at people like you and me and you knowli and you know we're going to get eaten next. >> tucker: it's probably a fair point. you're a wise man. great to see you. thank you. >> appreciate you. >> tucker: you thought typhus was gone. it was a 19th century disease of poverty and filth. and you're sort of right and sort of wrong. it's making a comeback in los angeles. we hit the streets for our investigation, madness in california. we've got it on tape. also, one of the great people at fox news joins us tonight in the friend zone with some great news to share. we'll be right back.

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♪ >> tucker: now to the slow-moving disaster known as california, los angeles has one of the largest homeless populations in the united state local officials have done virtually nothing to fix the si diseases you used to read about in novels are making a comeback in this supposedly developed coverage. hillary vaughn went to los angeles and this is what she found. >> in the heart of los angeles rats are breeding and a medieva disease is born again -- typhus >> medieval diseases are here now because this environment go out of control. >> typhus is popping up in l.a.'s skid row, an area where homelessness sprawls across 50 city blocks, and an infectious disease eradicated in the 1800s that festers in filth is and spread by fleas and rats is back, because the city allows hundreds of homeless people to set up

shacks on the sidewalk and live there forever. >> they have dup they have furniture. one lady had a rubber jacuzzi in here on they get real comfortable here. the officer said has spent over two decades on skid row. he says letting tent cities thrive isn't protecting the poo it's proliferating drugs and di >> we have some people who have housing but they'll set up a tent and pretend to be homeless all day and sell drugs -- spice methamphetamines, crack cocaine. >> we have drug addicts, drug dealers, thugs who are praying in our most vulnerable. >> the council member, also a former police officer, led an effort to pass a city ordinance had led homeless people pop tents, street to sleep at

night. but the court blocked it from being enforced after advocates representing a group of homeles people sued the city, calling its enforcement cruel and unusual punishment. >> our police officers are not able to do their job and clear our public sidewalks. it's insanity >> they are not allowing us to clean our streets and our sidew what they are doing is they are embracing and encouraging a lifestyle of filth. >> over time, squalor builds up on the streets with rats feasting on rotting food. mixed withs sewage and used syringes. but far away from skid row, through rats and fleas, typhus traveled through the streets and the deputy city attorney who works way up on the sixth floor at city hall got infected. >> i felt like i was going to . >> he says the building is always had rats but what changed isn't within the building, it was surrounded. >> the homeless population has they closer and closer. surround the building. as folks walk to work and back, they are walking through rotting food, raw sewage. >> they're going to

stay right here and surround th with filth. that's only going to lead them to demise. >> tucker: hillary vaughn joins us. that's dirtier than downtown mumbai, where i just was. were you surprised by it? >> i was surprised and i actually threw away my shoes because i didn't trust i could clean them effectively. i didn't want to get any form of typist. >> tucker: how could there be used hypodermic needles on the streets and no one picks them u? >> we saw some cleanup efforts but a lot of the controversy is what they are allowed to throw away a stretch. a lot of homeless people keep piles of things on the street and you may think it's trash bu yey get upset when you try to remove it. >> tucker: homeless people get upset. that makes total sense. insane. thank you for that amazing package. ♪ we've got great news. end of the week, we want to endre on te happiest possible note. "the friend zone" is back. we welcome

an actual friend from fox news onto the program, janice dean, a beloved meteorologist, a cohost of "fox & friends." a new memoir out tonight, "mostly sunny," and she joins us tonight. it is so great to see you. >> hi, i'm just glad to be in the same studio as you. i really miss you. >> tucker: i love it. "mostly sunny" --ke you are the sunniest person i have ever met. >> what about your wife? >> tucker: she's pretty sunny.. >> she's very sunny. >> tucker: why would your memo be "entirely sunny"? >> i was going to call it "partly sunny." [laughter] i think it's all about your ou i think that truly can help you through life. and that's what i try to do. i try to find the silver lining. i think all of the bumps on the road that i've had, and i've had a few, i realize now they had to happen for me to have this moment, sitting here with you, tucker. >> tucker: i love that. i love that you decided that and you stuck with it. who are we

tulooking at? >> that is me back home in ottawa, canada. i was a bylaw enforcement officer. in uniform for about two weeks, trying to make it look cute. >> tucker: what bylaws did you enforce? >> bylaw is noncriminal laws. barking dogs, lawn grass complaints, annoying dogs, cats not on their leash. we actually tried to leech cats at one point, try that come of friends. [laughs] >> i was a dispatcher there an i would dispatch calls. "bylaw base to 16, there is a -6g on the loose, phase 21069 -- " i did that every summer while was in school. so i did that for a while. and they tell me that i got my start in radio from disp those calls.ll and i did the actual uniform thing for about two weeks. i was terrible at it there would be a dog across the street that i was supposed to catch and ie would pretend that didn't see it. >> tucker: i know that you know the name of every

song written between 1960 and 2 how long were you a disk jockey >> on and off for 15 years. well, 10 years. i've been at fox for 15 years. my broadcasting career was 25 years. i started when i was about 23. i worked at a classic rock sta i met all these cool rockstars, which i document in "mostly sun" shannon bream are talking about how my hair was terrible back then. >> tucker: it was great, actua >> there's billy ray cyrus. "achy breaky heart." >> tucker: when was that? >> that was the '90s. but my big story was with steven tyler and that's in the book. you helped me get my autograph on the actual picture of steven tyler and i 20 years later. do you know that story? >> tucker: don't know. >> you have to read the book. here's steven tyler and i. we had a moment together back home in ottawa. he never signed my picture until "fox and

friends" a couple of years ago. we were playing "love in an elevator." i said, i have this great mome with steven tyler but i don't have an autograph. on twitter somebody contacted me and said, send me the picture, i'll get him to sign it. he did. there it is because of tucker carlson. >> tucker: that is so cool. that was in canada? >> that was in canada. that was backstage. he wanted me to come backstage after the show. and then that would have changed the whole trajectory of my life. >> tucker: probably best you didn't do that. we never would have met you if you had done that. without getting too heavy on live tv, we'ves. talked about this a numr of times. you decided that you were going to approach the challenges in your life in a positive way. >> mm-hm. >> tucker: how -- i mean, people are inspired when they hear>> t can you give advice to other people facing challenges? how do you do that? how do you stick with it? >> i wrote this book for mysel when i was diagnosed with ms and that was almost 15 years ag

because i was looking for peopl doing well despite the challeng i couldn't find a lot of that.ei needed a book like this to make me feel like i wasn't alone. i wrote this book sort of for me 15 years ago, when i was facing a really dark time. i just wanted to know there was somebody out there doing well. >> tucker: whatever you did, really, i've never met anyone who's approached life as you have, and i'm very impressed by >> it also helps to have really good friends around you. and i consider you a very good friend and now i have my mug! i've been waiting for this mug. i won that contest and you never gave me the mug. >> tucker: because we're not allowed to send him through the u.s. mail. you had to come here and get it. >> he's in my book, too. >> tucker: i know he is. [laughs] one of his relatives approache me in the airport and asked me for one of these mugs. janice dean -- >> i love you, tucker carlson! >> tucker: what a great end to

the week. we're done. we'll be back monday, 8:00 pm. the show that's the sworn enemy of lying pomposity, smugness, and groupt have a truly great weekend and we will see you monday evening. "hannity" is next from new york. ♪ >> sean: this is a fox news al we are following several major breaking stories this friday ni i know so many of you have been very frustrated, so have i, wit our system of justice. we've watched mueller's witch-hunt. that's been playing out for two years, day after day. a lot of people's lives have been ruined over "process crimes" just because of their connection to president trump. and i know you've been saying yourself, well, what about alll of the people that we know have been abusing power, committing real and serious crimes? hillary clinton's one. we look at people mccabe and james comey and peter strzok and lisa page and many, many more. what abt