i'm glad you are here. that is the story. we will see you back here tomorrow night 7:00 p.m. eastern but in the meantime, our friend tucker carlson is up next * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to tucker carlson tonight. there is a loud debate in washington to participate in border's acute or. to build a wall and how much ice should get with detention center big enough to hold everyone they need to hold. people argue about these questions everyday. you watch it on tv so it seems like the parties are divided on the matter. but on a deeper level -- level, there is no debate but a consensus. everyone in the political system knows in our faith that mass immigration is good for the economy. immigrants make us richer and the chamber of commerce tells us that.

think tanks to start to prove it's true. and the democratic party, it is a bedrock principle. america would collapse without his steady torrent of new bibles developing. that is what they tell us. immigration does not just improve the economy. we wouldn't have an economy without it. >> i want us to be a country where hardworking immigrants who pay taxes, and by the way, one have undocumented workers pay federal income taxes. >> these people are just waiting, waiting for a chance to be able to contribute fully. and by that standard, 11 million undocumented aliens are already americans in my view. >> we cannot continue with this economy. >> our history and the facts show that immigrants are a net plus for the economy and our society. >> tucker: half of the illegals pay their taxes. you should be impressed and grateful. and a new talking point as you

can tell from the aging video we showed you but like everything in this country, it is accelerated dramatically the past couple of years. the left's new position is immigrants are not just good for america, but better for america than you are. they don't complain, they don't file hr complaints, they don't get expensive long-term diseases like diabetes or opioid addiction but do what they are told. the leaders are what they've always wanted. kristen gillibrand is running for the president explained that every single immigrant in america is good, no matter how they got here or why. just by virtue of the fact they are immigrants. and have i heard anybody say that about american citizens? no, don't hold your breath. but gillibrand mentioned immigrants, watch. >> there is no such thing as an illegal human. [applause] >> immigrant populations across the state, refugee populations that make economy stronger and make the city and state

stronger, that make the country stronger. >> tucker: pulses person in washington. but she is saying something everybody believes, it makes our economy stronger. and it is it true? a great job in this country, highly patriotic and successful in business, great neighbors and friends. everybody knows people like that and everybody is glad they are here. but not every immigrant is like every other immigrant. don't tell kirsten gillibrand but they are not all the same. the current immigration system treats them like they are. treats people like widgets. the government does virtually nothing to celebrate the good from the bad. a system like that not designed to help america but designed for the benefit of foreigners. by that measure, it has been wildly successful. a new study shows last year immigrants living in the united states spend $120 billion to the countries they came from. even in the age of expanding cost from a $120 billion is a

lot of money. more for example then we spent on the first gulf war. more than ten entire russian military spends every two years. enough money to buy at costco, not the stuff on the shelf but the entire company and still have $15 billion left over. it is a lot of money and all of it could be going to americans who badly need it. but instead, mexico received $33 billion in remittance last year. the countries on president said the economy would go under without this. in guatemala, the business in the united states amounted to a full 11% of entire gdp. you know salvador and honduras, 18 and 20% respectively. in the past decades, those three countries received a total of $120 billion in an arm man tents for the united states. by the way not just latin america benefiting from this. china who hardly needs it gets $15 billion in remittances. india $10.5 billion vietnam,

nigeria $5.5 billion, russia $3.5 billion and we can go on and on. none of this is a tech on immigrants but helping families back home and go for them it's not their fault. it is our fault. much of this money has never been taxed at any level. more than 10 million illegal aliens working in this country under the table. that is part of the reason between 2012 and 2016 an estimated 39 million social security numbers were stolen from americans for fraudulent use. in effect that is rarely reported. but legal or not come immigrants send earnings abroad and pay nothing when they do it because remittances are untaxed. it is a pretty good deal for mexico and guatemala. when is the last time you made financial transaction that wasn't taxed? can you remember? at one point the administration proposed remittance tech but they didn't like the idea. so it went nowhere. we can't fix that on the show but what we can do is be honest about what is happening.

immigration is good for the economy, sure, it can be good. immigration is always good for the economy? more immigration is always better for the economy? no. that is a lie. there is nothing to support that claim. there is a lot of evidence to disprove it. anyone who tells you that and that's pretty much everybody on television either doesn't understand the subject or is lying to you purposely and may be both just so you know. and steven does understand the director of research for immigration studies and joins us tonight, thank you very much for coming on. $120 million in remittances and they are not tax but i can't think anything except remittances, why is that? >> steve: for the state of oklahoma which does have its own tax, remittances sent overseas, money is allowed to flow out of the united states in large dollar amounts. and no, we don't collect any. >> tucker: wait a second, i know for a fact if i brought $100,000 in the airport and caught doing it they would seize

it from me. >> steve: yeah, they do, but i can send as much to mexico and not be taxed and i guess i need better lobbyist, is that a question mark >> steve: it's not just american businesses or the mexican government but americans who handled these wire transfers and they charge a fee and collect money on it. but not the taxpayer, at least not right now. >> tucker: will come again and i don't begrudge anyone but i commend people who want to help their families, especially their aging parents. i'm totally for that, but this does undermine the universally accepted claim get that always makes the economy stronger if immigrant sending $120 billion out of the country how does that help the economy? >> steven: it is money flowing out of the united states so it can't be taxed and not here for savings or investment and does not with spending. but it is often flowing out of many of the poorest communities

in the united states. remember, new mexico and central american mower then have to immigrants in that region are in poverty and sending a large fraction of the money for those emigrants from they are. so that is a big concern, in other words or people making them somewhat poor but choosing to do it but also flowing out of a community that could use the resource. that is one of the disadvantage of immigration and i wish people would stop lying about it. >> tucker: thank you very much. we are happy to have him on the show, thank you very much for coming on. >> so you often hear the claim, as it said and the open, blanket claim, and the idea that the more people you bring into this country, especially poor people the richer you get is a lie. there is no evidence to support it and the evidence outlined tonight shows why. so why are we still lying about this? >> i don't think that is the claim or that immigrants are all good. there was nothing bad that comes

with it but obviously people understand they were sometimes crime that comes with them. but what i think they are saying by and large less likely to take a crime but the americans can also jobs specifically stimulate the economy. they take less and tax programs. so i think -- >> what are the jobs and clearly a lot of successful immigrants and start a lot of companies, but i'm talking about immigrants and i think this is more than half that don't have a high school education and the lowest wage wage wages, but -- >> jonathan: but those jobs are service jobs, farming jobs, jobs hospitality for example, hospitality jobs doing housekeeping services. but these are jobs that actually stimulate the economy because the americans to take those jobs, far more. >> they would have to pay a living wage so they pay less than someone can live on and thn

to the u.s. taxpayer and social programs. >> jonathan: that is a whole another problem. >> tucker: no, it's the same problem. if i'm an employer what i rather hire you college educated american to pay you enough to live or someone that is used to making $3 a day and then encourage him to go on food stamps which is what we do. >> jonathan: that is capitalism in the country and walmart does that with the workers on all companies do that with the workers. they paid them the bare minimum. >> tucker: why is it capitalism to off-load my labor cost on to u.s. taxpayers without telling them? that is not capitalism, that is a criminal scam. >> jonathan: that is the way the system works. >> tucker: that is not capitalism. >> jonathan: amazon from a mcdonald's that pay their workers far less and then they have to go get government assistance and we pay for it. >> tucker: i'm very aware. so i guess, it's not just -- you are absolutely right they fled the labor market and lower the price of labor because we can do

this because people work for less. but my question and this is all slow ply and demand. my question why the democratic party making excuses for this in defending those people and why are they defending jeff bezos in the big employers who are hurting our society speed to it that's not what they are doing but a republican party that demonizes illegal immigrants and not here because immigrants depending on how you view this. >> tucker: it's not an economic question and there is all this moralizing. >> jonathan: but it is. >> tucker: there is a moral proponent but how much does it cost to employ somebody? and if someone from the third world to work for a lot less, why wouldn't that shaft a poor american? they can't make that amount because they are not living or use to the same thing. >> jonathan: this does not just affect illegal immigrants. what you are talking is low wages overall which i actually agree with you one.

the wages are bad for the country because taxpayers get stuck with -- >> tucker: here is why -- >> jonathan>> tucker: let's conw dots. nancy pelosi and sheila brown and cory booker -- cory booker come on the same side of the argument as some of these big low-wage employees, though walmarts, but you notice the same side of the debate, and accident? transgender bathrooms or something deeper? >> jonathan: to support businesses like that. >> tucker: you are right. >> jonathan: the liberals are doing it and countering who demonize immigrants legal and otherwise. >> tucker: this morning, you are being mean to people in america or whatever. >> jonathanthe president of the united states is the one that spews lies. >> tucker: why, it is real. and has it ever occurred to you that maybe you are doing the

bidding of big companies and you specifically in your party for sure the bidding of big companies that are lowering the price of labor. speak to my party is specifically asking to pay a higher living wage so these people do not go to the government for services. so i don't know. >> tucker: because they are making it possible for millions of poor people that will work list much to live i in the country. >> jonathan: we are saying we want illegal immigrants to be document, verified so we know they are here and to be making a living wage i can't understand how you are making that -- >> tucker: more people willing to work for less causes the price of labor to drop. an overabundance of something, that is why sand is cheap. supply and demand. >> jonathan: part of the argument but the full picture -- >> tucker: lead everybody in. >> jonathan: no, not let everybody in. who gave amnesty, reagan. >> tucker: 1986, not going to get me to defend the wreck and amnesty. if you want to take the side of amazon against normal people -- >> jonathan: that is not at

all what we are doing. >> tucker: very much. >> jonathan: these people to be documented is the exact opposite of that. >> tucker: thank you very muc much. democrats tell you the borders to fake crisis but the real crisis is global warming. it could in this world in 12 years. they tell you that everyday on tv. does anybody really believe that? a new poll shows literally not one person believes it. we have the numbers for you. ♪ live from the starlite lounge.

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democratic party has about as many presidential candidates as it has members. but strange, there is not a lot of diversity of viewpoint and the party. on a couple of topics, big topics everyone agrees, first immigration. the view from the democratic party is, no big deal. and if you think otherwise you are insane. >> it is absolute fiction that there is a national emergency here. >> showing this is not about a crisis, it is a political ploy. crisis, crisis, and the crisis does not exist. >> national emergency is completely made up. a wall's colossal waste of money for a crisis that does not exist. but even if he declares a national emergency, he is lying. even if he declares it, it will be a declaration of a falsehood to. >> this whole idea of declaring a national emergency is ludicrous because there isn't one. >> tucker: those people just get their talking points,

obedient little, such holder as they are. the border is fine. i don't care what is happening in your neighborhood. it is fine. but you know what the real threat is? something you can't see, but deadlier than godzilla and vladimir putin combined, global warming and it is going to kill us all. >> the biggest threat to our prosperity in this 21st century is climate change. the crisis could at its worst lead to extinction. >> the climate change is real. it is a threat to the country and the entire planet. >> we are running out of runway to be able to fix this problem. [applause] >> we need all hands on deck. >> when the planet has been imperiled in the past, who came forward to save earth from the scourge of, totality and regimes to make regimes? we came forward to. >> so if you take climate change seriously, you care about the world and the country.

you don't care about people. >> tucker: here is just because you string a series of unrelated cliches together doesn't make it a sentence much less an idea. but they tell you this every single day. the border is totally fine and you are a racist if you disagree. the real problem is global warming. the real question is does anybody believe this? or do they write it off as propaganda that it is. we have a new poll that answers the questions and the voter, what issue most important to them? the number one issue immigration. what percent picked global warming, 2%. so voters know which issue is radically changing their country and which is a totally abstract distraction and excuse for another power grab. joe, a meteorologist and author of the claimant chronicles and you will not hear from al gore and others, joe thanks for coming on tonight. is it surprising to you after 25

years of really relentless propaganda beginning in children's cartoons all the way up to the moment of death that americans rate climate change at 2% concern, 2% most concerned about climate change. are you shocked? >> joe: not really that shocked because i think my experience is much greater percentage of people and they are 20s that believe what is going on. and i think it is because they don't look at everything. i have said hundreds of times that if all i looked at and all that i was told was that global warming issue, i would believe it too. co2 is causing this. but when you look at the entire picture, the totality of the picture and you put some perspective into it, the last 40 years have the equivalent of six seconds out of 80 year old man's life, you realize that there is a very, very different story here. it is like, it is like one scene in a movie for five seconds determining the whole movie.

that is not the case here at all. the foundation that you stand on today was built yesterday to reach for tomorrow. it is the same thing with weather and climate, folks. what happens is you have to go back and look at the big pictu picture. in our business of what i do at whether bell is we need the supply of accurate forecast for energy companies which includes wind and solar, retail companied knowing what happened yesterdayn perspective to say, guys, this can happen again is something that we do. >> tucker: so i want to be clear. i'm not denying and i'm not a meteorologist, unlike you are a claimant expert, climate does change. >> joe: absolutely. >> tucker: why since more people killed by illegal aliens than climate change, why do you think they are so focused on scaring us and telling us we are all going to die? why did they need to tell us that? >> joe: i think hl mencken and

i quoted this in my book said it best, practical politics always tries to whip up this kind of thing. most of them is imaginary. and the urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. that is a democrat that said that but he passed away 1956. but coming from that kind of background from old democratic background, i knew who hl makin was. i think that is what is involved. i wrote that book because the security of what i've loved since i was three and my dad is a meteorologist. this is all i ever wanted to do. i can't believe this is what it has come to. it turned into this political poll or whatever. it's really bad. >> tucker: it is. it is not science beacon. joe, thank you very much and i hope you come back. >> joe: if you invite me back my will come back. thank you. >> tucker: antigun propaganda last year and they called it a town hall. another thing given some kind of

journalism award for it. a hilarious story after the break. ♪

>> tucker: well, to punish america for not giving absolute power to years ago, the democratic party to undermine or crash every institution that stands in its way. one of the newest targets electoral college, kamala harris said, -- >> senator elizabeth warren had

a town hall and she thinks we should do away with electoral college. do you agree with that? >> i think it is open to discussion. i mean, there is no question that the popular vote has been diminished in terms of making the final decision about the president of the united states. we need to deal with that. >> tucker: so that would have been a pretty far out thing to say a couple of years ago. but without question, the view you heard will be mandatory on the left. if you disagree or question it, you will be a racist. in on tuesday congressman stephen cohen demonstrated just how that will work. watch. >> the country is different than it was when the constitution was drafted. when the constitution was grafted it had to do with slavery. this is all conceived and perpetrating, perpetuating slavery on the american people and on the african-american people directly. >> tucker: so if you are for

the electoral college, you are for perpetuating slavery, a bigot, freedom of speech, the right to bear arms, due process, separation of power also created when slavery and so was the country. maybe that is why the left is trying to undermine them too. cohost of five, dana perino fox news joins us, so dana, just struck how quickly things are moving. if barack obama had said two and a half years ago i think we should get rid of electoral college. that would be stop the press moment but now it's becoming coincidences, would you say? >> dana: it's a litmus test. as they were eight democratic candidate saying no? cory booker, whoa, i don't know. but he will get there. this is happening. and remember, eric holder during the obama administration suggested this. but the democrats didn't need to talk about this when president obama was president because he won the electoral college.

okay? >> tucker: that's true. >> dana: you know how the left talked about the concerns of president trump and he's obliterating the norm? >> tucker: i've heard that. >> dana: because he's not simple. look, you know how i feel, the nicknames and all of that stuff. the institutions have held up at the democrats are talking about actually dismantling those institutions. and what is interesting to me is that, the reason that the country is set up this way with different states is because we are republic representative government. if you do away with that and you just elect the president by whoever lives in new york and california, then, and you just erase all of those boundaries, then you truly are for open borders. then you are no longer of the united states of america. you are like united people of america where perhaps, not so united, right, just the people of america. >> tucker: it seems like it would be a massive drain of power from the because parts of the country, rule america in the interior of the country to the coast brimming with power and

wealth. why would you want to exacerbate that divide? >> dana: elizabeth warren made an announcement about abolishing electoral college in mississippi. you heard what the congressman from tennessee said, right? who will campaign in mississippi if all they need to do was get the popular vote? the other thing is, remember, we talked about this on your program. abraham lincoln only won because of the electoral college. he didn't win the popular vote. so the argument doesn't actually last. >> tucker: does that mean he's racist? >> dana: i'm trying to be ironic. [laughter] >> tucker: really quick come i think there is a cost. some are racist and you should be embarrassed to be racist. >> dana: of course. >> tucker: if you call everything racist, it undervalues the term. will anybody's stand up and say stop at that and have an adult conversation? >> dana: will joe biden do that? from a communication standpoint i'm looking for the democrat to say, oh, i don't need to worry

about talking about something that might happen in 50 years if we change electoral college. electoral college not going to change for the 2020 election, okay, in i think they are wasting their time. where was president trump today? in ohio. what was he talking about? manufacturing the drop in economy. >> what have we been talking about electoral college for an entire week. so they are missing the opportunity. he is basically saying, you want to talk about the economy, great, i'm here. he's ready to take the slings and arrows but they are talking about electoral college. that is great in san francisco and new york city but not great and all the states. you have to win in 2020. if you want to win. >> tucker: dana, thank you so much. it was great to see you tonight. >> dana: thank you, bye-bye. >> tucker: two more institutions under further attack the second amendment and objective press. this week, received something called cronkite award, you didn't win but they did.

they won four full-blown propaganda event that they staged after last year's park when shooting. it was a town hall on gun violence. it was transparent excuse to ambush anyone who supports the second amendment and announce them on national television, which is what happened. >> i think what you are asking about is the assault weapons, man. >> yes, sir. >> let me be honest with that one. if i believe that lowe would have prevented this from happening to him i would support it. but i want to explain to you why it does not. >> can you tell me right now that you will not accept a single donation from the nra? [applause] >> i wish in our lady -- nra lady i could talk to considering the fact that she has children that she can even look in the mirror. >> let me ask the question you can shout me down after i'm finished but let me answer the question. i would do everything in my power to prevent that. >> you just told this group of people that you are standing up for them. you are not standing up for them.

[applause] >> tucker: such demagogues. a spokesperson for the nra was at the town hall. you saw the tape and she joins us tonight. it is upsetting to watch that tape because it is so unfair. it is a mob basically screaming at you but what was elect to be there? >> dana: tucker, thank you for talking about this. we have learned so many things since that time, right, got israel on the stage. i don't know how to describe it. when we found out the town hold taking place on a wednesday, i was going there tuesday. i found out i was going to be asked questions that afternoon while i was on the plane, and it wasn't until i got there that i found out i was going to be on stage. later, scott israel. they actually queued me to walk out into the arena to black-eyed peas song and that is after the camera stopped rolling with cnn.

but what cnn did not tell people they allowed and invited politicians to come up on stage and election years. scott israel to make a bidding speech before this even began in which he already started deflecting blame by putting it on me. it was treated as this, i think, they tried to stylize this to make it most emotionally impactful. i question the ethics of them putting it on this way. tucker, this was not a journalistic endeavor. they had this town hall literally titled it was called "stand up the students of marjorie stone douglas demand action." that is not a journalistic endeavor, that his advocacy. >> tucker: i wouldn't question the ethics but this is flat out unethical and i cannot imagine why they would win a award. they should be ashamed what they did. people were really hostile towards you. what was that like? >> dana: i have never been in

a situation like that. i've never been in a situation where that i had someone rush me from behind and try to get me and a member of my detail. i grabbed -- i showed up to talk about the issue at hand. not just this town hall but you will remember tucker at that particular network to stand unchallenged on their airwaves accusations not just my integrity as a person and as a mother, but also millions of law-abiding gun owners all across the united states. their integrity was question and they are genuineness was question and questioning the same people just because they thought differently. what they did, what this town hall did, was set dialogue back by i don't know how much. it pushed dialogue back. it was an embarrassing display of bias. they should feel ashamed instead of back patting themselves. for them to say this advance the national conversation on can

control is like saying the salem witch trials advance the conversation on women's rights. that is exactly what this was like. it was an embarrassment and they should be ashamed. >> tucker: days after mass murder to leverage the tragedy they way they did, they should be ashamed i agree 100%. thank you for telling us what that was like, disgusting. >> dana: thank you, tucker. >> tucker: new information tonight about marijuana which all of a sudden, totally cool, no problem with it except according to a reputable study by physician to make you schizophrenic. we will have the details in a minute. google employees want to use power to take away your freedoms and already doing that but meanwhile, empowering china on the world stage. that just ten. ♪

>> i'm all for legalizing marijuana. should marijuana be legalized? >> yes. >> tucker: cory for weed, course they are. in the midst of the greatest and most fatal drug epidemic in the history of this country, marijuana is entering a golden age, democratic presidential candidates compete to show how cool they are and how much they love it. the district of columbia legalized marijuana most tolerate medical marijuana. often known as pretext. every year at the drug becomes prevalent. nationwide seems inevitable in a few years away but what happens, couple of companies will get very rich. but as marijuana becomes more common mode what will happen to the people who smoke it? you're not supposed to ask that question but we think it is interesting so we do. the medical journal medical marijuana increases of a

psychotic episode or developing schizophrenia. no big deal, just schizophrenia. dr. mark sehgal with the fox news medical contributor and joins us tonight, dr. thank you very much for coming on. i can't think of a disease more serious than schizophrenia. do you take the study seriously? >> mark: this was an extremely well-done european study, tucker. it looked all across europe, and it found three big cities, london, amsterdam and paris head up to 50% cases of new psychosis linked to marijuana use. why would that be? let me tell you little biology lesson, tucker. marijuana is not what people think it is. the active ingredient that causes problems in the brain, psychiatric symptoms is now 20 to 30 times more powerful than it was in the 1970s when we were teens. 20 to 30% more thc in marijuana right now and thc is causing

depression, anxiety. it's causing psychosis and people that have legalized pot, recreationally, like colorado, like washington and penn state and canada. the amount of cannabis induced psychosis is doubled or tripled. it is a real rampant problem. >> i'm a little bit confused. so this is really kind of beyond debate from a medical perspective is what you're saying. and we know this is happening? >> marc: first of all it's beyond debate from a medical perspective. this study absolutely proves it. 50%, that is just psychosis. we are not talking about anxiety and depression. you mention schizophrenia, you know what is troubling? there are people out there at risk of schizophrenia. we give them a lot of regular use of pot. you talk about regular, heavy use of product, they get they get schizophrenic break and they may never come back. we may never be able to treat them out of it with

antipsychotic informatio medici. you can stop smoking pot and psychotic medication but in some cases the paranoia goes away and the suspicion goes away. you come back to reality. in some percent of cases, tucker, you don't come back to reality and you stay as a schizophrenic and this may be the reason. this is really, really a disgrace this is not being considered, and i'm really glad you brought it up. it is becoming a worse and worse problem of the more powerful podcast. you know when it gets legal, that it gets more powerful. it is in foods. it is in juices. it is in cosmetics even. it is more powerful than what they smoke, what people smoke. >> tucker: who has seen the tragedy of schizophrenia up close will know exactly what you're talking about. nothing more exciting. doctoral siegel dr. siegel i appreciate you coming on. >> tucker: a report based on the white house, the trump administration to issue executive order order designed to protect americans freedom of

speech on college campuses. supposed to protect by definition and the bill of rights. but they trample on it with him meet -- impunity to protect the sanctity of dogma. the executive war will allow every federal agency to deny grants to public colleges and universities if found to contravene the first amendment, hostile to free speech, amen. the other half of executive order will do something different to help from exploitation. currently countless programs that charge students a lot intuition, but offer no reasonable job prospects in return. schools know that, of course, but students don't know it a lot of times. now, the administration will require colleges to make that information public. every program will have to disclose what graduates actually earn and students can decide whether a degree is worth it or a scam. as so many degrees are. student loans are the biggest problem for people in the country and more will have to be done to fix that.

we will have more on that topic later in the week. but this is a start. ♪ >> google commission of the single most powerful company in the history of the world and almost every day new reasons to be suspicious of that much power concentrated in few hands. tonight internal google email obtained by this program and then it a manager told him the company would fight so-called hate speech and fake news because he blamed hate speech and fake news on donald trump. other lakes internal documents google vice president banned a christian video from advertising on youtube because it promoted conventional marriage. so google trampled your freedoms here in the united states and google enhances the power of tyrants abroad. last week testifying before congress joseph dunford accused of empowering china by research over there while simultaneouslyo support americans department of defense. hard to believe that is true.

but thank you for coming in. to the second first, google helping china really, the only global rivalry we face but refusing to help the department of defense. am i overstating that? >> no, not at all tucker and a lot of people don't understand to do business in china, you have to agree and have to be in bed with chinese government. you have to keep data and business in china. you have to respond to requests and also looking over your shoulder and perhaps on top of that, china has its own government run business operations. those are staffed and owned by children and the princes of the people in power in china. so no doing business in china without intertwined closely with the chinese government. that is what they are doing. >> if google has a choke hold on all information in english,

google with political bias which is overwhelming. , how can we believe that 2,020 election will be fair? >> : you would be naive and stupid to believe that. i believe he meant going back a couple of years ago, i filed a lawsuit come as you know against google and then similar documents to the one you mentioned in the email, local punishing conservatives and counting them people anything conservative for a couple of years since the election so almost three years now. and now that they are open like my twitter and facebook as well, openly banning and cracking down on conservative speech because they think it is dangerous and they want to protect people from these conservative ideas, they are absolutely going to wield that in favor of democratic candidates. we have seen google panning from the president on immigration issues and marsha blackburn on abortion issues and other issues like that. sometimes they are called on it and back off but that is

happening. interestingly -- >> tucker: the president understands that he will not be reelected in a free and fair election unless someone gets a hold of this. >> : i'm not sure the whole establishment understands that. >> tucker: you are saying that? >> : i do. i think we are in crisis mode. the old technology, the sec does not allow traditional broadcasters to ban ads from political campaigns. >> tucker: yes. >> : social media companies can and we do, we have evidence of that. if we allow this to continue and if we allow this in 2020, it is game over for conservatives and this country and competition in politics. >> tucker: went they act like we let the free market do its thing. no, collaborating with the enemies, the political speech and we will not have a fair election unless somebody does something. >> : the thing tanks this is a free market they are getting contributions from google.

>> tucker: disgusting and i i appreciate that, great to see you. the mueller investigation may claim its democratic victim. what did he do it legibly and can more people follow? i will tell you after the break plus the law center has been rotten for decades hawaii are people just realizing that now? we will be right back. ♪

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>> tucker: according to a new report, former obama white house counsel greg craig with criminal charges from the mueller investigation. craig is one of those prominent democrats in washington and has been for decades. he is a lawyer in the clinton white house. and also an unregistered lobbyist for ukraine. he got that gig hooked up by paul manafort who also worked ukrainian government. like so many foreign lobbyists in washington, craig apparently did not disclose his work to the federal government, even making millions from ukrainian oligarchs. he camp -- the foreign registration act 1939, until recently went essentially unforced. okay, so it looked like both sides will now have fair indictments. but let's not lie about it, feeling to register a foreign lobbying is a crime, there are a lot of felons walking free tonight in the nation's capital. and will any of them face indictment? all of them showed up.

virtually none of them ever will. an argument against upholding the law, we should but selective enforcement is not justice, persecution. that is true even when they indict someone you don't like. >> last week southern poverty law center founder were indeed canned under mysterious circumstances and the organization exist to tar all in them and these of the democratic party has hate groups. racist, sexist bigots who should not be allowed to speak in this country or make a living. they should be disappeared. it does seem fitting that apparently he was fired made allegations that his own organization was rifled with racism and sexism. but it turns out this is nothing new. all the way back to 1994, montgomery advertiser with a paper in town reported hostile racial claimant inside the splc. this group has been rotten for years. why are people just now

noticing? tyler o'neill joins us, tyler thank you so much for coming on. >> i guess we've known 25 years the southern poverty law center has racism in its own offices but we treat it like it's legitimate? >> tyler: that is an excellent question. the story is really, really bad. you had 13 black former employees of the splc, interviewed in 12 said they witnessed racist incidents. in their time they are. and three of them called the organization plantation forest black workers. >> tucker: did the splc put its own list of pay? >> tyler: no, but they did fire of the cofounder. the interesting thing it was not just montgomery advertiser in 1994. two years ago and in 2017, we had former employees go onto the website glass door and talk about their experiences facing racial discrimination. they are apparently 100 lawyers

and advocates of the splc and only five are black. black employees worked there 12 years and yet, none of them elevated to senior leadership. >> tucker: i'm not surprised. what i am surprised, the living and accusing other people. what i am surprised by come with fact news organization "new york times," cnn, msnbc -- and take press releases and reported as news. at this point knowing what we know, can they continue to do that? >> tyler: it is a pious left-wing smear factor. it's gone back down and they sued the kkk and made life better for black americans. but today, they list conservative and christian organizations with hate groups as you mention, and they had to pay him $3.375 million. >> obviously anti-muslim -- anti-muslim bigots come a great guy and a valuable voice in this conversation. but how can news organizations

get away with pretending they are a credible source of news? >> tyler: it is the liberal bias. they can't see it. that is one of the positive things splc hires more black leaders, there is a possibility because blacks tend to be more christian and believing angelical beliefs at a higher rate than whites do. there is a chance new black leaders could know that christianity is not anti-lgbt t hate. tucker: possibly and hard to redeem splc, both which are cited relentlessly by the press which really isn't trying. >> tyler: and companies too. >> tucker: so nice to see you, tyler, thank you for doing that. >> tyler: thanks, tucker. >> tucker: congratulation the wrapper zoo be a major women's sports record and did it without training and without being a woman. a couple of weeks ago he tweeted this come i keep hearing a

biological men don't have physical filmic physical strength in 2019, so watch me destroy the british women's dead lift record without even trying. you know what he did? he did just that. why is that a record? he explained, identified as a woman lifting the weight but don't be a bigot. prevailing wisdom come in fact mandatory belief system that you must adopt or be punished, he is actually right. if gender is fluid, democratic claims zuby is a weight lifting champion. don't be a bigot, shut up where we will hurt you or laugh at it. which is exactly the right response. don't get mad. laugh in their faces. they deserve it. we are out of time. we will be back tomorrow night at 8:00 p.m., the sworn >> "tucker carlson tonight" is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness and group

think. >> we have a surprise and this is going up they are but a little early to do this but coming next and nine seconds. >> if you want a real surprise, you are doing hannity with a couple of drinks. >> tucker: i hope i can do that. i want to be your feeling guys someday, serious. >> sean: okay, done. thanks, tucker, great show, welcome to hannity. breaking tonight, he'll john solomon we have major evidence of election collusion in 2016, real evidence to back it up, this collusion with hillary clinton and top ukrainian government official that wanted her elected. we will have all the details coming up with john solomon. but before we get to the top story ask yourself a couple of questions, will this be investigated for three years, two by euler and one by the fbi and banned the democratic donors? will the mainstream