just before the noon hour on the east coast, 232-point gain on the dow. a portly lot of this is apple. it got a big upgrade by one of the wall street analysts and stocks are rallying this morning. thank you for joining us here. "outnumbered" starts now. >> harris: president trump is holding up the economy as the signature issue for his 2020 reelection campaign. telling workers at a plant in the battleground state of ohio that whomever becomes his 2020 democratic opponent will struggle to beat him on the debate stage. he says he will just rattle off the unemployment numbers. this is "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, most of kennedy on the fox business network, kennedy. fox news contributor, lisa boothe. syndicated radio host and fox news contributor as well, leslie marshall. in the center seat, here we go. fox news contributor and coast of "unpc" on fox nation, tyrese.

we say were "outnumbered" but he wore a jacket that! will bring your game! >> tyrus: last time i was her to work. i were overalls. we're talking about politics. if you when you're going to preach? >> tyrus: i'll talk a little bit. politicking. >> harris: let's get to it. the president doubling down on his message of the economy is surging under his leadership. pushing the issue yesterday on a visit to ohio. a state that is seen as a linchpin on his 2020 reelection strategy. watch. speak of the nice part about running for president this time as opposed to last time -- last time, you know, i said i was going to do it but i didn't do it. but i said it was going to do it. this time i've done it far greater than i said i was going to do it. so it's going to be really easy on the debate stage when they hit me with nonsense and i say, "really? but african-american appointment is the best it's ever been. hispanic, asian, women, everybody.

it's all the best it's ever been." how do you top that in a debate? what are they going to stay? "it could be better?" >> harris: that came on the same day that the federal reserve chief jerome powell signaled they would likely be no interest rate hikes in 2019. he said that while policymakers have an overall positive outlook of the u.s. economy, there are concerns that the economy may grow slower than expected under pressure of weakening foreign economies, trade wars, and more. meanwhile, politico has published a piece entitled, "how trump is on track 32020 landslide," writing, "economic models contribute to a blonde in 2020, but a giant scandal country and everything. close that we haven't seen anything like this economy in a very long time. >> tyrus: epic is 100%. how could you argue with economy and jobs? when they said giant scandal, what's left? >> harris: [laughs]

>> tyrus: i mean, what's left? unless he has this sick fetish or he's been hiding the real jurassic park for most. [laughter] there's literally nothing left as far as scandals, that they haven't either made up or have improved it. i don't see them losing him as he doesn't want to to run, honestly. whether you like them or not, tweets, whatever, you can argue about stuff that doesn't really matter that he talks a lot of trash as long as you got jobs and money, most americans don't care. >> harris: lisa, i'm also looking -- we are spinning headlines today because there are a lot of them to spit out. in the independent, how democrats are guaranteed 2020 election victory to donald trump on a plate. you've got to read this article, is it it's interesting it's was the ever. >> lisa: the political article you mention about how trump will win in a land side as interest income as well. it looks at this economic modeling. one of them is trend micro lyrics that predicted trump winning in 2016 and said he

would lend donna quinn in a landslide, predicting the amount of electoral votes that his landslide. it will conduct to the economy, particularly the rust belt states again. that will be his path to victory. what do democrat student response? the introduce and endorse a green new deal, which would be absolutely devastating to these rust belt states economies. also as an issue, if you look of the things people care about, it's at the bottom. nobody cares about climate change. they care about paying their electricity bills and putting food on the table. that's the democrat response. good luck winning 2020 from democratic candidates if you hang your hat's on things like the green new deal. he won leslie, what do democrats do when they get to those states? after think that unlike other clinton they have learned some lessons along the way. what is their message going to be on the economy? >> lisa: when you look at the midterm election, the economy was really strong. it's been slowing down recently.

white house reports say they won't get to 3% of the president from us after this legislation. it doesn't just come down to numbers. as you know, voters don't always get up in the actual numbers. it's how they feel. >> harris: right now they are saying they feel good. >> leslie: do they get that tax refund? equal or higher than what it was? do they have to pay taxes or get nothing back? again, how do they feel? remember, when you look at the economy, within the eval don mcgahn bill of health care -- which is very big issue, as he saw in the exit polls after the midterm election, to voters from both sides of the aisle. i think were for the midterms, quite frankly, republicans didn't tout the economic success of their party. the present is doing well with manufacturing. >> harris: just a follow-up grow quickly -- and forgive me for cutting -- i'm just curioust these are the issues? don't they roll out at least one of them question rick "hey, this is the health care new deal." where's that? >> leslie: i agree, maybe they should have done it already.

i'm pretty sure they will. especially in the house. the house is going through gun control from immigration, anything else -- >> harris: are those above the health care and economy for american voters that we know of in recent bowling? >> leslie: honestly, no. especially if you're not dependence >> kennedy: nobody's figured out health care and that's the biggest sticking point for republicans right now. the democrats also don't have a good solution. medicare for all is not a good solution because it too expensive. there are ways of closing don't like the holes within -- with cheese -- without buying an entirely new wheel. it's a $30 trillion wheel by conservative estimates, and those are from right and left-leaning think tanks. it's interesting here because i think politico is absolutely right. every time the president wants to tweet about "snl" or senator mccain or something distracting he really need someone to redirect him back to the economy. and really focus on that. because when you lay out the

most important things in voters' lives, the economy is always first. financial security is always first. they want to be optimistic. they want to have reasons to spend money. >> harris: you know what he's got it, he's got -- >> kennedy: did you see this weekend? >> harris: but did you see this? in which of the president taking credit for the economy? watch this. >> we, all of us come our living by simple rules. buy american and higher american. an opponent has reached the lowest rate in 51 years. the united states is up, and we are way up. think of what that would become of the road goes up, we go up with the world. the world is down but we still go up. something is happening. that wouldn't happen under barack obama, that i can tell you. it wouldn't happen under cricket hillary clinton. >> harris: so he is talking about the economy and what he sees as his role in all of the

positive messaging. kennedy does bring up a good point, tyrus. the president goes lateral on some of these other issues with dozens of tweets like this we can. it can get confusing for people who aren't watching every second. >> tyrus: advocates get to the point -- an old wrestling coaches to talk about two elephants making lover front yard. when it first happens, everybody comes out of the house, "oh, goodness!" the elephants in this case are the trees and the rhetoric. "look at that!" after month 2, you are literally stepping around the elephants to get in your house. >> harris: and other stuff that the elephants are leaving behind! >> tyrus: i think it comes point where americans -- it's amazing, there elephants. but the point is they never -- it gets to the point where it doesn't matter anymore. it's not a big deal anymore. walking around in my on vacation, nobody is going, "did

you see that tweet?" >> harris: and nobody can mark it like this president. nobody can mark it. like this president. >> lisa: let's talk about the economy. in fairness, even if president trump -- he doesn't veer quite a bit, i'll admit that -- even if he did stay consistent and beat the drum beat, economy, economy, the mainstream media would find every reason not to cover the economy. they run stories that he likes two scoops of ice cream. idiotic things. even if president trump went out there and it is job -- which i agree he should tout the economy and stay on that -- they would find ways not to cover it. let's be honest about that. >> kennedy: it's when you give people any missions they didn't have before. now is the time where the president is absolutely right. if he focuses on the economy talks about the jobs and talks about the potential, the global economy really is being pulled down. yet, america is buoyed by some

of the positive occurrences in his administration. >> harris: moving forward, the 2020 democratic presidential candidates are doing what they can to relate to voters. but some are saying that senator kirsten gillibrand and some others are trying too hard. we will talk about whether this is the kind of social media that voters want from the people running for president. plus, we are expecting an executive order from the white house as the president is set to tackle a growing controversy over free speech on campus. after championing the flight of conservative activist who was attacked. >> [bleep]. jesus christ. what -- [bleep]. ♪ oh! oh!

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>> if they want our dollars and we give it to them by the billions, they've got to allow people like hayden and many other great young people and old people to speak. free-speech. [applause] >> kennedy: earlier this month president trump set to sign an executive order requiring universities to support free speech or lose federal funding. the signing ceremony scheduled for later this afternoon. a conservative activist who was attacked on the uc berkeley comp donna campus will be among the presidents guests today. the video went viral back in february. watch. >> [bleep]. [bleep]. [bleep].

[bleep]. >> kennedy: oh, my goodness! what a bully. that's hard to watch every time. among the attendees at today's signing will be kristin hawkins, president for students for life of america. she tells politico, "probably no other campus group has had more free-speech issues than the pro-life movement. i'm really excited for the spotlight that is finally being shed on this issue." when time, while her republicans have long accused colleges of stifling free speech some conservatives have also cautioned on recruiting new federal restrictions. back in november, lamar alexander said the government shouldn't be in the speech-defining business. education secretary betsy devos has said she doesn't believe "government muscle should be used to address campus free-speech issues." lisa, i think betsy devos is onto something here. there's something strange about coercion and force creating freedom. >> lisa: e.r., regulating speech to regulate what speech -- to regulate the speech

that is regulated on college campuses. i read a "wall street journal" report that basically said they are not specific -- they didn't see a specific penalty in the executive order, so maybe it's something that's more bark and less bite. something that's more the investors and stating their policy but not much enforcement. we will see what ends up being there. the admin church and also laid out some changes to higher ed. loan-barn. this is important at the time or you have them laying out, let's just give away things for free that we don't have the money for. what the administration wants to do is kind of rain in. they have found a tire in the amount of federal student loan subsidies are being put in and colleges raising tuitions. for every $1 president, colleges raise tuition by 60 seconds. that's a problem. we should have a conversation about that as well. >> kennedy: okay, but that should be the students going back to the colleges once they

got their degrees and saying, "this is absolutely no obligation in the real world. i want some of my money back. let's go there's no incentive for colleges to keep costs down as long as they have those three federal dollars. it almost seems to be a bigger problem. we are compounding the issue. it's okay to go to these college compasses and learn that there's only one way of thinking, and that's what happens. there's no incentive for change. and you end up having a very socialistic system. >> leslie: i don't disagree with your point, and a fox news alert, i agree with betsy devos. which is shocking to me regarding that. [laughter] here's the problem i see. i feel the constitutional first amendment it's very specific and very clear. you know you can't yell fire in a crowded theater. >> harris: unless there is one. >> leslie: but the thing that bothers me, if you want to take federal funding -- i'm going to use ucla as one example. there are many examples, not just in california, with federal funding. the overwhelming majority of the

federal funding at ucla goes to research. medical research. this can hurt people, do you know what i mean? i'm talking -- the violence, there is no place for it on the campus or anywhere. >> kennedy: i want to talk about that specifically. there are people who feel that violence is an appropriate reaction to words they don't like. it should be a much more difficult boundary to cross, but when you hear something that is so offensive to your ears -- there are people that feel that kind of conservative speech is violent. >> tyrus: when you don't like to hear things, you don't have to go to his speech. that's fine. i don't particularly like opera, i'm not going to punch somebody in the mouth of their singing opera. i just won't go. [laughter] i think the president's point, just to break it down, i think schools need to be more proactive and responsible. if you have a guest coming to speak, there should be secreting measures. this isn't new. this is behavior that has been going on on both sides.

he needs to be -- if you are not going to protect the speakers, may be getting it with federal funding is a good wake-up call to be like, "you know what, if we are having a speech or we should make sure they are safe on campus." if a student does that, maybe he's not allowed to go to college anywhere. there should be incentives. we will call it incentives. it was hard to obstruct free-speech, you will be at that school. of the school doesn't do anything about it, maybe they shouldn't get federal funding. >> harris: real quickly, we are expecting the signing of the executive order today. it deals with a whole host of issues around this bigger one. this president has a way to get us talking about these issues. you and i have set on this couch and talked about people being blocked over the issues of security and under the guise, may be, of what they should be provided. because of his might not agree with what they had to say. this is a conversation we have needed to have. it's interesting he took an executive order to put out front. >> kennedy: it might feel like it, but ben shapiro won't let your hair on fire. [laughter]

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as president, i had to approve. i don't care about this. i didn't get a thank you, that's okay. we sent him on the way, but it wasn't a fan of john mccain. so now what we can say is now we are all set. i don't think you have to answer that question, but the press keeps -- "what do you think of mccain?" not my kind of a god. some people like him and i think that's great. >> harris: has words about the late senator wrinkling more and more members of his own republican party georgia republican party johnny isakson pushed back hard on the radio show. >> it's deplorable, what he said. that's what i call it. from the floor of the senate seven months ago. we should never reduce the service people give to this country. including the offering of her own life. to use it as political fodder in washington, d.c., or anywhere else, for that matter. >> harris: senate majority leader mitch mcconnell joined

him in defending mccain but stopped short of mentioning the president directly. mcconnell said this. "today and everyday i miss my great friend john mccain. it was a blessing to serve alongside of repatriated and genuine american hero, in the senate. his memory continues to remind me every day that our nation is sustained by sacrifices of heroes." there is a longer list today. i know congressman adam kinzinger also, the military. dumb et cetera -- in fact he just served active duty at the border putting a picture of mechanics and yesterday. >> i was always a fan of mr. mccain, rest his soul. we got a chance to get a hot dog together at a baseball game. he's my kind of guy. this, as a guy who has had a lot of rivalries in my day, football, wrestling, the nemesis never dies. even from the grief he is still putting the bolts of the president. i wish he didn't go this route. i wish he didn't say these things. unfortunately, if you ask our

president a question, he is going to answer it. in this -- the media found something they could exploit and has become a big thing. his words were to liberal pre he was struggling to say the nicest rudest thing he could say. he obviously doesn't like them. it's common knowledge, it's not an issue. the point is that he shouldn't say. this was the heat checked. 100% in my mind. people just say he does things. he's not a dog chasing a tire. sometimes he generally he checks the republican party. i think he is still little sore about what happened with the wall situation, so he went out and said some things about john mccain and looked to see who would standard him to say anything. we literally -- no one else said anything, and that let him know it is still his party. don't think it's not. >> harris: a lot of people asking where his good friend was, saturday lindsey graham. >> tyrus: because he knew better. >> harris: he weighed and let john not just moments ago.

>> a lot of people are coming to john's defense paid called him crazy and a warmonger, so it's interesting to see the politics of how this domestic dispute is being used the bash trumpet by people who are against trump and mccain. >> kennedy: lindsey graham also said he wished the president would say things about his friend john mccain, and lindsey graham should have a little bit more of a full throated defense. he was one of john mccain's best friends. john mccain was a good man. john mccain is also no longer with us. it's very painful for his family who have to relive that fresh grief every day as they are defending their husband and father from these attacks. i think the president is better than that. i think this is incredible petty and one of those areas where his base loves where he fights back. john mccain can't fight back. the president has to let it go and move onto another fight. >> harris: when i would say this, because meghan mccain sat on this couch with us for a while. she is a friend.

she said something so eloquent yesterday, she said, "a lot of people can't fight back." she's got support, a big platform. a pulpit herself. but she points to those who cannot. that's who she advocates for in all this. john mccain served in our nation's military. he was taken by forces in vietnam, in october 1967. he was tortured and suffered lifelong disabilities from that. until 1973. just a little background. >> leslie: i'm a liberal democrat and a senator mccain and i disagreed on probably 99% of the issues politically. i've seen so many documentaries on people that survived that a p.o.w. camp because of senator john mccain. he was the leader that helped those people through holes in the wall and little games that they played if they had a piece of mirror that they could communicate with. he is a hero. i just -- it bothers me.

my father is deceased, i can't imagine somebody saying negative things about my father. i tweeted this to make in the other day he has been gone for seven months. the present should be better than that. any leader should be better than that. we should not speak ill of this man in particular who has died. we will not get to the politics of it. the president has a right to talk about why certain things failed on his watch, like health care. so what do you do to take care of and to honor -- >> kennedy: he's with matt it lisa murkowski? >> harris: that's a good question. >> lisa: the way i see it is that senator mccain served as a center for quite some time and was in public service. it's fair to confess his record. what president trump says comes around new information surfacing on the dossier on the way senator mccain handled it. i think present trump is fair to criticize and pay the problem is his criticisms are deeply personal and get to a point where i think is unfair and unnecessary. that, i do not like. i think to criticize his fear.

the way that he is criticizing is unfair and unnecessary. i don't agree with that. but we are moving onto another fight that's going on right now. counselor to the president kellyanne conway finding herself in the middle of a bitter feud after the president criticized her husband, george conway, who is an outspoken critic of the president. george conway saying trump is a counterpunch or and is free to respond to being accused of having a mental illness. the president has generally refrained from attacking george conway, who has repeatedly mocked him on twitter. trump broke that habit yesterday. watch this. >> i don't know him. he's a whacked out, there's no question about it, but i really don't know him. i think he's doing a tremendous disservice to a wonderful life. >> jon: kellyanne is a wonderful woman. i call him mr. kellyanne. the fact is he's doing a tremendous disservice to a wife and family. >> lisa: meanwhile, kellyanne conway waited in again

this morning defending president trump. listen to this. >> he is protective of me. that's a people should from this, i'm not being asked to choose between my marriage and my job. donald trump -- the president has never made me feel that way, maria. i know george is quoted recently as saying he wishes i didn't work there. >> does he want you to step down? >> certainly. but what message would that send to the feminists everywhere who pretend they are independent thinkers and don't make decisions for them? they can talk it and i can walk it. >> lisa: tyrus, where people giving george conway a pass? is in the router them to be out there putting his life in his position? >> tyrus: i've bet that they probably have some really strict rules that in the predon't talk about the office. they are still married, she is in a tough spot. the boss is now -- you asked the

president. if i was -- i try to put myself in that situation. if i didn't like my wife's boss, let's say. i still probably would keep my comments respectful come out of respect for my wife. i really feel that if there is a bad guy in this it's him. he is only hurting his wife. you can have differences. i do like the policies, i don't agree with this. but he's name-calling. there's a long history. so is your marriage. >> harris: george conway on the present -- they worked together. this was a guy whose legal services were looked upon by the president as being good of the time. >> tyrus: put yourself in that situation, though. if you are working and -- >> harris: my husband wouldn't tweet outside my job because he would never -- he wouldn't do that. >> tyrus: exactly. >> harris: every marriage is different. >> lisa: i want to ask you why you think president trump wants this fight.

>> kennedy: i think unfortunately that george conway has forced this fight. he has made it as personal as he can, and he knows if he accuses the president of not having a mental illness the president will respond and respond forcefully. kellyanne conway went on tv and said the president -- the husband, rather, had already asked her to leave the administration. he want her to quit her job and she said no. that obviously has created an uncomfortable dynamic. but shame on him for forcing that dynamic into the public and the most publicly possible, that he knows is going to have this exact results. >> lisa: leslie, you're married. i'm sure you have some thoughts on this. [laughter] >> leslie: like you said, put yourself in the situation. my husband, like yours, harris, wouldn't put me in that position. i have to say, i would defend my husband over my boss. although the kitchen table conversation would be quite different than the public conversation in the media.

i don't think the president should respond. there are a couple of ways you can react when somebody is attacking you, whether it's on twitter or otherwise. you can laugh, you can ignore them, and you can turn your cheek. i want to go to your elephant. can we take the elephant? >> tyrus: we have the elephant on location! >> leslie: my father-in-law once said if you are an elephant you don't worry about the little dog who is nipping at your ankles. so i'm saying, if you are president of the united states, don't let somebody on twitter, even if it is one of your lead employees' spouses, bob v. brush it off, let it roll off. >> harris: pachyderm wisdom! elephant was in. >> tyrus: in the elephant's defense -- [laughter] i just wanted to clean that up. >> leslie: done mike >> lisa: will leave it on the elephant talk. new turn in the divide over democrats 'support of israel.

comments woman's woman's remarks that everybody thought was anti-semitic. what they want them to boycott now. stay tuned for this. ♪

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♪ >> harris: politico was reporting the liberal group "move on" is calling a democratic presidential candidates to boycott aipac policy conference. among other things. the group charging the pro-israel lobby has supported human rights abusers and is working against palestinian self-determination. meanwhile, speaker of the house nancy pelosi and senator chuck schumer are among the big names at this week's aipac meeting in washington. israeli prime minister benefit to benjamin netanyahu will be there as well. "move on" says in a statement, "it's no secret that aipac has worked to hinder diplomatic efforts like the iran deal, is

undermining palestinian self-determination and inviting figures actively involved in human rights violations to its stage." meanwhile, the debate over congresswoman ill are omar's remarks continue to cause turmoil. congressman max rose has apologized for omar's comments, while virginia's jennifer wexton's come to her omar's defense saying she's a victim of smears from foreign governments that are trying to divide us. earlier, congressman rose said this. >> congress in omar's coming through the cost people pain. in my community and jewish communities throughout the country, there is no doubt. she apologized for them and they're working as hard as we can to make sure this doesn't happen anymore. but i do think it was important for me to stand up in front of the jewish committee on staten island and say, look, i feel to you. congress caused you pain, because you hurt. will work as hard as we can make sure it doesn't happen again.

>> harris: what a position to put himself in there and take accountability. what do you think about this for your party? >> leslie: there are two camps. the jewish vote, the mobile reduce majority democrats, that there's almost like a sucking sound of then leaving. my cousin is jewish, he's watching today. he's a member of aipac. he's a democrat but he is pro-israel. speed when you make it sound like democrats aren't pro-israel. that's going to be an awkward litmus test to going into 2020 if that's the case. >> leslie: but that's my point. i think there is a perception that if you are in favor of a two state solution you are anti-israel, or if you are in favor of a two state solution or if you are anything that favors the palestinian people and the palestinian territory, that you are anti-semitic. this is a problem. you can be against the leader of israel, the policy of israel, against building the resettlement's. i lived there in '96 briefly.

there were very different opinions. it's not necessarily hatred. >> lisa: but you are downplaying the risk going on. it's a bigger risk. we sat player with the women's march as well as the dnc separating themselves from the women's march with people -- we have seen more democrats come out and expressed disappointment with the party, as well. congressman ted deutch took to the floor criticizing his party for not being able to singularly condemn omar's anti-semitic remarks. >> leslie: what kind of condemnation would be sufficient, whether to democrats or people that just don't hate her? does it have to be legislated? >> lisa: have an answer to that. it would be what representative deutsch wanted, resolution, to singularly condemn omar's comments. >> harris: they could have done two resolutions. >> leslie: and said they watered it down to take the heat off of her and made it more bro.

i would say ted deutch is the one who -- >> tyrus: as a republican i would like to sit back in my couch and go -- [laughs] the cat open and ability given there was fight and they don't if what she said was wrong, straight up. but they are afraid to take chances. they are afraid cory booker -- whenever he is asked the question, he says -- they don't answer anything. this is what american voters see. democrats are over the place. when somebody is wrong they can't call them wrong, it's supposed to be the party of making the right choice in doing the right thing. standing up to evil dictators like president trump to say mean things all the time. democrats do it, they just don't handle it right. this whole situation, whether you support jerusalem or palestine, if you are democrats, you should be able to say, "that's your opinion, i respect

that. let's get back to work." but they can't do that. >> kennedy: no. the problem with the democrat side is there are so many red lines. it has to be really tough for the candidates because everything is a redline, whether it's reparations or medicare for all where the green new deal or support of israel. everything is a redline. you're either on this site or you are on that site and that is such -- hold on -- at such an unnatural place to be for politicians. they want to straddle everything. look at beto o'rourke. he used to be against spending and against deficits in 2012 and now the only proposal that he is for is the green new deal. he is also talking about how mahmoud abbas is kind of responsible. no, he teaches kids how to slaughter jews. that's very problematic. >> leslie: historically, whether it's democrats or republicans, on an election year, especially general election, it's common for them to do this. have those red lines, to your point, take this stance, make these huge, grandiose statements

whether it's reparations, medicare for all. then it seems to come into the middle from the left or from the right. >> kennedy: at your try to regulating this on. good luck spew and i'm going to turn to the teleprompter. more controversy for the white house hopeful kirsten gillibrand as twitter users mark the center for posting a workout video while on the tram campaign trail. part of the growing trend among some democratic candidates. are they trying to hard? ♪ ♪ when cravings hit, hit back. choose glucerna, with slow release carbs to help manage blood sugar, and start making everyday progress.

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♪ >> kennedy: you can add senator cruz to deliver into the list of hopefuls using social media to make themselves more accessible to voters. she posted herself working out a campaign stop in iowa. which of us are lifting weights at a gym hawkeye state and reading a shirt that says, "just trying to get some ranch. close with a refers when somebody walked by gillibrand saying she just tried to get some salad dressing. people say she is trying too hard to relate to the average americans. this comes on the hills though my heels of live streams by

beto o'rourke getting a dental exam and talking immigration with the hygienist. alexandria ocasio-cortez -- she was cooking, answer questions and reading user comments. of course, senator elizabeth warren awkwardly hanging out in her kitchen interacting with users. most notably, "i'm going to have a beer." "i'm going to grab myself a beer." "i'm going to do this right now, until you all about it." [laughter] >> leslie: am wondering if any these people had saved her life, if you said he would give them credit for that. >> kennedy: absolutely! and i talk about how i understand the appeal of people like bernie and kemal are just give me a policy paper. >> leslie: if you look at the data, especially since the midterm, just on the campaigns that i worked on this stuff is effective. >> kennedy: when it's authentic. when it's not authentic, it's the opposite. >> leslie: because the field

is so large and ever-growing right now, the voter -- the would-be voter decides what is authentic. to be what i think this is where president trump has an enormous advantage. you can say we want to say about what he says and what is offensive and so on and so forth. he is who he is. no one has been able to change that since he's been in office. anybody who has known her for decades probably would have said that one before. that authenticity. the authenticity is powerful, especially in the world the social media. >> kennedy: it's fun to make fun of these politicians, because -- >> tyrus: i will be the elephant in the room. [laughter] my issue is not enough depth. if we can get that back up there, she's cheating herself. she's only going like halfway. your elbows need to be at the apex. you have to bring that all the way down. my advisor is maybe take it off, two or 3 pounds. get a little lower.

[laughter] she's got great guns in terms of biceps. it looks great. she just needs a little more depth. this is what happens when you don't -- >> kennedy: she's opening herself up to criticism. >> tyrus: i can take it. that's what happens when you do the 'gram. >> harris: portion control? >> tyrus: never heard of it. >> lisa: i think when alexandria ocasio-cortez does these videos, they are very natural. >> harris: i like the dancing, it's authentic with her. that's interesting point. >> lisa: if it's real, if it's real. >> kennedy: we have more "outnumbered" in just a moment! stay right here. but the va home loan benefit is a big one. if you want to use it to get cash, call newday usa. and don't let less than perfect credit hold you back.

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you can start your free trial by logging onto foxnation.com. do it now. he's a little taste on pc >> capturing the essence of being a hipster for an article about how hipsters conform and dress and groom the same. couldn't tell the difference between a hipster and himself. just -- >> that's called game, set, blouses. thank you for proving our point. here is a free wool hat to wear in july. we will give you 50% off your next flannel shirt purchase. >> kennedy: oh, tyrus. [laughs] speaking of flannel -- >> tyrus: it's not flannel, its planned! this is my vince mcmahon jacket. >> kennedy: you are bringing the heat to fox nation. >> tyrus: b or a flagship show. lots of guests out the box. we get to class. >> kennedy: is that true? >> tyrus: and we can be on our

show. between me and the elephant there will be a lot of elbowroom, but i can -- if i can get them on the chair ultimate. >> kennedy: check out fox nation. back on the couch at noon eastern tomorrow. now here's harris. >> harris: the crisis at the southern border has taken on a new turn. let's go "outnumbered" over time. i'm harris faulkner. u.s. border officials say they have been forced to release hundreds of illegal immigrants due to overcrowded detention centers. this, as the yuma, arizona, border patrol has released new video of migrants crawling under barbed wire in a desperate attempt to enter america. earlier this month, homeland security chief kirstjen nielsen warned lawmakers the migration crisis on the southern border is "spiraling out of control." but some immigrant groups are accusing the administration of intentionally releasing the migrants to cause chaos of the border. william la jeunesse has more now from yuma.