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win. that's all i'm going to say. it's pretty impressive. he would be the 46th president of the united states if he announced today he was running. >> sean: i voted for the 87 billion before i voted against it? we will never be the hate-trump media. let not your heart be troubled. let not your heart be troubled in d.c. laura ingraham, and other free speech advocate. i was telling tucker tonight thank goodness we all support freedom of speech and we actually think people should have the choice whether they want to watch are not. >> laura: absolutely. all for one, one for all, hannity. like the three musketeers, right? >> sean: great. three musketeers. wonderful. >> laura: which sword do you want? i want the coolest one. i want the coolest one. >> sean: and we put hannity at the bottom. >> laura: no problem. fantastic show and you are right, the forces against free speech in the united states, we are going to expose them night after night. they will never win. they will never stop freedom
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from ringing out across this country no matter what you believe, you should have a right to say it and be respectful when you do it. >> sean: thank goodness our audience has been so good to us and loyal to us and loyal to us in support of a loss when they come after us the way they do. so we are very thankful to all of you out there. three do you bet. gratitude extraordinaire. thank you so much, sean. great show tonight. >> sean: have a great show. >> laura: i'm laura ingraham. this is "the ingraham angle." from washington, democrats claiming they represent the youth vote. but julio is exactly out there fighting for the youth freedom? my angle will explain in a moment. plus why is nyu hiring radical partisan commentators to teach journalism? and also tonight, 2020 democrats abandoning israel after pressure from the far left progressives. governor mike huckabee is here on the part's continuing
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struggle. new zealand's ban on semiautomatic weapons in the wake of that horrible mosque attack has protocols to do the same here. we'll tell you who's pushing it. congressman steve scalise, a victim himself, of gun violence, reacts. but first, liberals repeal free speech. this is the focus of tonight's angle. in 1964 on the uc berkeley campus, the free speech movement was born. and the drama unfold and thousands of students, they gathered to prevent the rest of the civil rights activist and they surrounded a police car on sparrow plaza. there was a mass sitting with students demanding no disciplinary action for violating the administration's than free-speech restrictions. this was mario savio, the leader of that free speech movement, in his famous speech.
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>> there is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part. you can't passively take part. objective put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, all the apparatus and you've got to make it stop and eve got to win the case of the people who run it who own it, that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all. >> laura: unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all. hold on to that thought. students eventually won the free-speech concessions from the administration back then, he had 55 years later, free speech is more dead than alive in places like uc berkeley. even ever conservatives are technically allowed to speak or appear on campus, this is what happens when they show up. >> [yelling]
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>> [bleep] , [bleep]. [bleep] >> laura: this anti-free speech but really it's an antifreedom movement. it didn't start with trump. it's been growing since jeanne kirkpatrick were shouted down at colleges in the early 1980s including at berkeley. and don't forget what happened in 2014 when condi rice was invited to give the commencement address at rutgers. >> [chanting] condi rice has got to go! >> laura: secretary rice eventually gave into the mob and stepped aside as speaker. it would've been nice, wouldn't have come have barack obama, then the president, first african-american president, has said something, anything to support the free-speech rights of the nation's first
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african-american female secretary of state. but no such luck. but president trump struck a blow for free speech on campus this afternoon, announcing an executive order aimed at schools that trample on free-speech rights. >> under the guise of speech codes and safe spaces and trigger warnings, these universities have tried to restrict free thought under the policy i am announcing today, federal agencies will use theirs grantmaking programs to ensure that public universities protec protect, cherish and protect the first amendment and first amendment rights of their students or risk losing billions and billions of dollars of federal taxpayer dollars. >> laura: of course the cable networks largely dismissed the effort as just basically exaggerating the threat on campus altogether. >> the problem is the president
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is following the cliche about what the crisis is on campuses, that cliche says that noble conservative speech is routinely shut down by crazy liberals. and of course the reality, the day-to-day reality on college campuses is far more complicated than that. >> laura: oh, really? well, others were out there suggesting trump was acting only to protect speech from his supporters. so in other words, that would mean his entire exercise today was meant to just what, target liberal speech on campus? on my god. it's just ridiculous, completely absurd. liberals dominate every aspect of university life at all but a handful of schools. the faculty, the administration, they dominate in the board of directors, board of trustees and of course the student body itself. so where are the principal thinkers on the left today?
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why aren't they standing up and fighting for the free expression rights of everybody, including conservatives? and by the way, conservatives are obviously in the minority at colleges nationwide. >> even as universities have received billions and billions of dollars from taxpayers, many have become increasingly hostile to free speech and to the first amendment. we will not stand idly by and allow public institutions to violate their students' constitutional rights. if a college or university doesn't allow you to speak, we will not give them money. it's very simple. >> laura: well, back to berkeley. 1964. many of the students who ended up agitating for free speech that fall, they had spent the summer in mississippi registering black sharecroppers to vote. this is where they were radicalized and they tied their own free-speech rights to the civil rights movement. interesting tactic. the fascinating story.
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but you might not know that a group called the independent socialist globe also played a key role in organizing the free-speech movement. it's funny isn't it that all these decades later with more democrats slouching toward socia conservative republican like donald trump to remind us what it was all about. freedom. and that's the angle. all right, joining me now to rock 'n' roll on this topic, to people who were at president trump's executive order signing today. harmeet dhillon, rnc national committee woman from california. and bernadette daisy, correspond for campus reform.com and a student at california state university. her meet, practically speaking, how will this proceed? every agency and department will have a role, how will it work? >> the agencies mentioned in the executive order, each is
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supposed to make regulations as to how this post implemented. the big idea is that if university does not adhere to the free-speech principles that is promised if it's a private institution or the first amendment requirements if it's a public institution, the funding will be reviewed and potentially pulled in for some of these institutions, were talking about hundreds of millions, and a couple cases over a billion dollars in federal funding one of these 12 agencies so it could be huge. this is a stick if you will to make sure that they comply with the promises of their obligations under the constitution. it's being mocked by the left because they say the school should have to do this anyway. they aren't doing it, which is the point. there was a most hundred students in the room today who each had their individual story. it's about time. these are our taxpayer dollars and if the schools want the federal dollars, they have to comply with the federal law. >> laura: i think this is such a great start. this conversation, bernadette, is so important for people in your generation to have and to see being dealt with by frankly
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a conservative. conservatives believes everybody should have a say. yet all the liberals are running for cover. they don't want any part of this conversation because it exposes them. tell us about your story. >> right, couple years ago got permission from a university to talk pro-life messages on the sidewalk. >> laura: chalk? >> chalk. >> laura: how threatening. >> a professor said he would be coming back to erase them and that's what he did. he brought students with him to help erase the messages as he proclaimed that college campuses are not free-speech areas. and waited on filing a lawsuit with alliance defending freedom and this is a students for life group at fresno state and we ended up winning. this is a big win for free-speech end of big win for students attempting to speak their views on campus. our students now, future legislators and judges and this is a way for the university of did step up and to be held accountable. >> laura: oh, no, no. we've been doing a lot and harmeet, you've been helping us on this, to push the narrative of our repercussions are so
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important for bad behavior. i mean, we want people to be responsible. everybody makes mistakes. every buddy steps over the line every now and then. but when there's criminality. whether it's a racial hoax or intimidating a student and depriving you of your free-speech rights, there has to be repercussions. alliance defending freedom is a phenomenal organization. just so the audience can see this by the way, this is what happened when fresno state university, when you put your pro-life messages on school sidewalks. let's watch. >> free-speech is free-speech in this free-speech area. very simple. this does not constitute a free-speech area. this is our part of free-speech. do you disagree? >> college campuses are not free-speech areas. do you understand? obviously you don't understand. >> laura: then this happened in april of 2018. >> why are you carrying down our posters? why are you tearing down our
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posters? >> laura: i love this. it's that kind of thing we would've done all these years ago. >> the reason the videos are there are because students are getting punched. students are getting assaulted. i as a lawyer for a lot of these students have said you need to start documenting this because you can expect this type of violence and harassment on a lot of these campuses today. bernadette had a lawyer. my clients and had a lawyer but this is going on at community college, every level and not everybody has a lawyer. so is william barr in the president trump turns a table and puts the burden on the schools, not on the students to go to court and enforce the law laws. groups on campus have been instrumental in making sure it happens. i'm really excited to see that now are going to have -- who in the universities are going to defend them not adhering to the first amendment? >> laura: let's look at some of the federal funding some of the biggest schools get. johns hopkins gets about
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$2 billion a year. university of washington, seattle. 952 million. michigan gets 829 million. stanford, 710 million. university of north carolina chapel hill. half of johns hopkins funding comes from the department of defense. the president was i think clear in saying it's not about tuition, money that will go to tuition. these are special grants they get for various reasons. i have to ask you bernadette, our students on campus this reflects reflexively liberal or do most just keep to themselvesy don't want to cause any problems. keep my head down, study, may be party, have some fun. keep my head, study and get out of here. >> it's very hostile environment for conservative students and it's a shame they feel they can't speak out. they can't speak their values and their views because they will be shut down and
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universities should be promoting free-speech. >> laura: they say this is hyperbole. when you hear from liberals, you heard the guy when he played during the angle. it's a big exaggeration. there are a few examples where people went nuts and it's terrible. but this is all exaggeration. you exaggerate for publicity. >> this is happening with university administrators and professors in my case that you saw. it's not just rooms they're attacking free-speech period. to come all the way from the top, this something we are born and all the time of the leadership institute of campus or vomited something has become a big problem. like i said, we are teaching our students were going to be our future leaders. this is so important to us. as we are being attacked on campus. that president trump has signed this order. we do thank you very much and as we discussed, it was once a beacon of free-speech but now berkeley is ground zero for shutting it down. speech that isn't approved which is basically conservative speech has been met with threats and violence. our next guest was fair 55 years ago for the birth of the
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free-speech movement. documenting the entire thing as a student photojournalist and he is outraged by his fellow liberals for rejecting so much of what they once stood for. richard mueller joins me now. richard, it's great to see you. by the way you look really young, i can't believe that. i want we're having. you look fantastic. and watching these videos today. this is what i do all day long. i'm watching archival footage. students seem really impassioned. they were really dedicated to the message and because of free-speech. seeing what you are seeing today, is this what you had in mind back in 1964? >> oh, no, no, no. back in 1964, free-speech wizard dream. it was something that was practiced and it could be improved. in 1964 when i first arrived on the campus, i went to a lecture by a nazi, an american nazi.
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i was curious. i was fascinated. there were over 100 students listening. he was introduced politely. he talked for half an hour and then students took their turns, raised their hands, asking questions and everyone tried to outdo the previous question in terms of stomping him, making him look embarrassed, confound him. by the time everybody left, 20 minutes later, everybody regarded him as an idiot. he couldn't answer any of the questions. he looked stupid. i walked out and i remember thinking what a wonderful example of free-speech on the university of california campus. you can hear anybody. you can hear their side, if they have something to say. you have an opportunity for it. but you can challenge it and it was challenged. it was a glorious moment. it was a few months later that i decided to, i thought, put my career on the line and be arrested in the free-speech
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movement. >> laura: richard, someone like this guy milo, kind of an altera guide. he shows up on campus and gives a speech and this is in the birthplace of the free-speech movement. showing the video. things were smashed, people were threatened. people running for safety. a lot of people with black masks on their faces. there were these brave warriors for something that i have to cover their faces because they are a bunch of little wimps, mommy and daddy paying for it all. this is what it looked like. there is no debate. there's people getting their face punched in. there is no debate. >> no, no. this is an free-speech. this is what happens -- the united states had its ten amendments of the constitution to preserve the rights of the minority. and you have to do that. you have to have those amendments. you have to have them enforced. if you don't, then you don't have freedom. liberty allows the bullies to take over.
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over the last 50 years, i've been watching the slowly happen at berkeley, to my horror. there's not much you can do about it. the university has the role in my mind of protecting free speech. that means they have to hold back the bullies. they have to allow speech and debate to proceed. the university has been afraid to do that. every time they did it, they did it in a heavy-handed way. they got into trouble and it got worse and worse. we are at a point, you mentioned earlier condoleezza rice. that really horrified me. there is a time when she was invited to come to the university of california berkeley to give a talk and she couldn't come because she knew she would be shouted down. >> laura: condi rice is a pretty mild-mannered person. she's not milo. she's mild-mannered, mainstream republican. everyone thinks this is about tron. this was going on in the '80s with jeanne kirkpatrick. she couldn't get a word out.
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>> if you told me in 1964 that this would become liberty, not freedom, that bullies would be allowed to have their free-speech and suppress the other speakers, if you had told me that the most prominent successful may be even effective but certainly a person, i went to hear a nazi. i would have loved to hear condoleezza rice but she couldn't appear on campus because the bullies had taken over. >> laura: by the way, we are showing some of your photos that you took. what were you, 19, 18 years old? how old are you? >> i was 20. >> laura: you were inside the hall at the point and you were taking these. >> i think i was the only one who know how to take tri- x film and push it to nasa of 1,000. i got all these photos. i've never seen any other photos taken inside sprawl hall. they are all online. >> laura: unbelievable.
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we really appreciate your coming on, professor. your voice. you were there. you covered it. you knew the people that organized so much of it and you are giving us perspective that frankly people across the country, young people. you disagree with me, fine. take it out on the online or whatever you want to do but let people speak and then may the best arguments went out. great, great to have you on, professor. thank you so much. >> you're welcome. >> laura: liberal partisan writers are being hired to teach journalism classes. dinesh d'souza has been targeted on campus. he has all the details plus progressive groups push democrats even further toward anti-semitism. they happily oblige. what does mike huckabee think about that? don't go away. after walking six miles at an amusement park...
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>> laura: how about this for indoctrination? new york university has hired partisan fact-checker tally lavan to teach a course on covering the far right. you might remember lavin resigned from the new yorker last year in disgrace after she falsely accused of wounded combat veteran and an i.c.e. agent of having a nazi tattoo. from there, she went to work for the liberal goon squad media matters. now and why you think she's just the person to be lecturing
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students on journalism. remember last year the same school hired former "teen vogue" columnist lauren duka to teach a "feminist journalist" course. duca once tweeted that straight white men are generally trash and she said of billy graham following his death, have fun in hell. a sexist and cruel is apparently the winning combo for professors. joining me now is conservative filmmaker dinesh d'souza. dinesh, is it a surprise that radicalism is being rewarded, bread, fed on college campuses? >> i think we should step back for a moment and taken the comedy of the situation. you have a practitioner of fake news, someone who is busted either for sheer incompetence in journalism or for outright deceit. trying to pin you might say, the nazi tail on an i.c.e. agent and not being able to get away with
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it. so what happens to her? she's kicked out of journalism but she's hired to teach journalism. now, think about this. and then the other field it would be insane if somebody was caught for example cheating at chess or making legal moves, with a be hired to teach chest, to be a chess coach? no, why not because we don't want chess coach is teaching people to make a legal moves or cheat. but nyu does. i think the reason they hired her as precisely because they see that from their point of view, she has a stronger commitment to left-wing activism, social justice, as they put it, then to journalistic standards. they don't really care about the journalistic standards. she's highly qualified from their point of view. >> laura: part of what they are doing, dinesh, is what we alluded to, we talked about with harmeet, they want to circumscribe speech. they want to take players off of field altogether. she is just a hit gal. media matters. they don't want to argue. they don't want to win the debate. they want to search and destroy.
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that's what they do. that's why fox viewers are so loyal to this network because we refused to bow, refused to cave into these kind of terroristic tactics and that's what they are. they are it'll journalist terrorists and people are think of it and tired of it and even this piece for each movemet journalist from 19624 we sang it, end. it's crazy. but they do it to intimidate and they are teaching young kids to learn to try to intimidate conservatives who they will call far right from ever entering the public sphere. that's what i think is really going on. >> yeah, you have two institutions that seem to be kind of in incestuous collaboration. on the one hand you have academia and academia is producing the fake narratives and the fake scholarship. then you have journalism which is producing the fake news. notice the easy and seamless traffic between the two. people move seamlessly from academia into journalism, even when discredited in journalism is in this case, she slides right back into academia
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and so essentially what you have is the left using these megaphones of culture, namely media, namely academia, to put out fake narratives of one kind or another. >> laura: dinesh, at this point, what should students do? i haven't heard of anyone actually going to a journalism school in a long time. i mean, should conservatives even think about going to journalism school? is there a reason to go to journalism school today in this climate? >> well, i don't think we need much -- i don't think we need people to go to journalism school. we need a lot of investigative journalist on our side but i think in terms of students on the public, we've got to learn to decode these narratives. we've got to be able to look at the news and you know were so close to him to saying that's the news, that's what happened yesterday. that's what my professor told me. that must be the way it was in the 1930s or the 1830s for that matter. and now we've got to become distrustful of these narratives
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and learn to read between the lines so to speak. >> laura: quickly before we get to mike huckabee, i want to read, this is her bio at nyu. tally lavin as a writer and researcher focused on far right extremism and social justice. she has written for publications from the village voice, that tells you all you need to know, and "the washington post." then from her course description, move on to that. this course will teach students vital tactics in identifying and tracking the spread of far right movements online. he will teach students how to track far right harassment campaigns to their sources et cetera, et cetera. how ironic when the last are the agents of harassment now with very tedious, pathetic, in the basement wearing underwear campaigns against conservative's. they're talking about conservative harassment? are you kidding me? we are for something called free speech, fools. >> look at what she was trying to do to the i.c.e. agent. she was trying to basically make
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a law enforcement official into a nazi. this guy was nonfar right. it's almost as if you have a communist looking in a welfare state liberal and says you are far right. actually that's far more illuminating about the person making the accusations that it is about the person who's attempted to be described. >> laura: dinesh d'souza, oh, yeah, there's the picture. dinesh, thanks so much. also despite a growing number of 2020 democratic hopefuls will not attend this year's american israel public affairs committee policy conference, better known as aipac. the news comes as, just a day after the liberal group moveon.org called on dems to boycott the event. the list include senators elizabeth warren, kamala harris, bernie sanders, and now beto o'rourke, julian castro, and pete -- i can ever say his last name. joining me now, governor my cocky, former republican hopeful and fox news contributor governor, where the dems playing
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into this progressive, anti-israel mind-set. they are doing it so quickly, they fall into line so quickly. >> they have lost their minds. our alliance with israel is not a left right issue. it's an up-down issue. this is not horizontal politics. it's vertical politics of army going to take our culture and society up or are we going to take it down? aipac has been reliably nonpartisan. in fact if anything i got a little bit disappointed with aipac a few years ago during barack obama's push for the iran deal. because they were really pretty much on the sidelines. they didn't say that much that was overly against it. i think the reason, they didn't want to offend the president. i thought they should have offended him because the deal was terrible. it was terrible not just for israel. it was terrible for the u.s. but this has become the new matter for the democrats is to be against israel.
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they don't like the prime minister netanyahu who i was just with two days ago and israel, and they don't like him because they don't understand him. his job is not to be left or right. his job is to protect his country and in doing so, laura, he is doing us a great favor and he understands that the iranians are led by crazy people who would blow up the world if they could and that's why even the other arab nations don't like him and don't trust him. we do the anti-israel sentiment is a line from in many cases the media, academia. also we are seeing it in hollywood and we are seeing it in a big way on college campuse campuses. this boycott divestment and sanctions, bds movement, it is sweeping the country. now even berkeley professors are saying that this is starting to really hurt, you know, their first amendment free expression rights. so they say for years bds
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supporters have disrupted campus events featuring individuals who espouse views they oppose. this could have been part of the angle in the first block of the show. also deprived the university of calvary students, faculty, and staff of their right to hear alternative viewpoints. the goals of bds and its supporters and actions, therefore do pose a clear and direct threat to academic freedom. governor huckabee, that's when the rubber meets the road for the faculty, when they see wait a second. wait a second. my academic freedom is now being heard by the liberal -- i say liberal. not really liberal, the progressives on campus who i think there's a deep anti-semitic strain running through but now even the professors are saying it's gotten out of hand. >> the bds movement ought to take the d out of it because it's really just a b.s. movement. let me tell you what happened because of bds, the palestinians that had good jobs because israel opened up factories like the soda stream factory in
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judea, 1100 people work there. i toured the plant. 600 of them are palestinian. 500 were israeli. they got along fine. they worked together. men, women, muslim. it worked beautifully. they have had the best paychecks they've ever had their lives. four times the amount of money they'd ever gotten under the palestinian authority for any job they ever had in the bds movement puts so pressure on soda stream, they shut the plant down and you know who suffer the most, the very palestinians that it's supposed to help. >> laura: governor, we had obama and hillary. they both spoke at aipac. will the party ever be the same after the radicalization that we are seeing over take it now? will it come back? >> if it doesn't, they're going to continually move to a level of being anti-semitic and that's dangerous for the democrats. you know, laura, forget the politics of it. it's dangerous for freedom. it's dangerous for a country,
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israel, that most mirrors the u.s. and its ideology and its value system and we still have to do with the fact that look, they may not want to admit it but the palestinians, if a palestinian kills a jew, that family is rewarded with a lifetime pension. that's got to stop. >> laura: peace in the middle east. everybody wants it. it's extremely frustrating. governor, thank you. coming up, failed gubernatorial candidate andrew gillum has a plan to get 1 million new voters for the democratic party in florida. who exactly is he referring to and targeting? it's all above board. the ingraham angle exposes it next. plus what happens what happens when we start releasing prisoners from the war on terror? one expert has a big warning. loopholes might allow them to
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>> laura: tonight we turn our eyes to florida and a push by failed gubernatorial candidate andrew gillum. in the wake of his laws, he's looking to turn florida blue with 1 million new democratic voters. that got the ingraham angle thinking. where exactly are these 1 million voters and who the man behind this effort? first the new voters. after hurricane maria, was reported that roughly 300,000 displaced puerto ricans move temporarily to florida. the best estimates guess is about 60,000. that they actually stay. ahead of last year's primary, here's how many of the new puerto ricans registered. 55% went independent. 36% went democrat. and just 9% registered republican beta and it isn't
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just displaced voters. gillum himself even admitted they are targeting "1.4 million returning citizens." in other words, former felons in line to have their voting rights restored after a vote last year. >> next time, florida is going to be a different ball game because they passed the amendment. x felons can vote. >> that's right. >> that will make a big difference. >> laura: don't x felons when a good economy? aside from where these new vote should come from, should democrats entrust gillum with this effort? two months ago the florida commission on ethics found unanimously that as mayor of tallahassee, gillum violated ethics laws with trips to costa rica and new york and of course take us to the broadway musical hamilton. did florida democrats really want someone who doesn't respect the will of the state's voters to be the catalyst for this? >> we have been able to legally
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count every one of those votes, not just in florida but also in georgia. i wonder what the outcome might be. >> laura: exactly what they are staying in georgia by the way. florida will be of vitally important state for president trump's reelection. it's clear the democrats will be relying on felons, displaced voters, and an ethics violator to throw the vote their way. what's the g.o.p. plan? we'll be watching. all right, we are so far removed now from september 11th that prison sentences without would last forever are now ending. and those terrorists are coming back into society. the counter extremism project is reporting that over the next five years, 61 terrorists, suspected terrorists, will be walking free. in a little more than one month, detainees zero zero one on the war on terror, john walker lind, is getting out. the american taliban militant reportedly told the television
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news producer that he would continue to spread violent extremist islam upon his release. next year, kevin lamar james is being released. remember he created a radical islamic group while in prison and ordered an attack on a u.s. army recruiting office. joining me now is john torres, former acting ic director. john, should we be worried about these guys coming back into society? >> yes, we should be worried not so much because we know law-enforcement is going to keep tabs on them but they have limited resources and quite frankly what i'm concerned with is the average citizen. i'm not in law enforcement anymore. who is moving into the neighborhood next to me? who's going to be close to our schools where students are, the churches, the concert venues? these are all places that event attacked in the last few years. >> laura: the argument would be they were sentenced and they fulfilled their sentence. let's review kevin lamar james first. he was sentenced to 16 years, his release is january 2020. convicted for seditious
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conspiracy to levy war against the u.s. he founded a domestic terrorist group. they group recruited people who planned to attack u.s. military operations, infidels, and jewish facilities in the l.a. area. i'm sure he will just end up being a barista. and then siad hash me, his sentence was 15 years, released august of this year, detained at age 27 while boardig a plane to pakistan, extradited to the u.s. on charges of providing material support to al qaeda, affiliated with a group, a band militant jihadist network in the u.k. we have a lot of problems already in this country. we are dealing with gang warfare are not too far from where we are now. ms-13, they are decapitating people, stabbing them 100 times. that trial is going on. i never going to have to deal with this too?
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this can't end well. >> not only that but a number of people who get released, they are foreign nationals so they are going to be turned over to i.c.e. to be deported but there are some countries are going to take them back so guess what they're going to be stuck here in custody but only for a limited time because the supreme court has ruled that ic can only detain people for up to six months at a time. that's part of the problem. the other part of the problem is that you have a number of u.s. citizens, they aren't going to get deported. they are coming into the communities next to us right where we live. >> laura: oh, my gosh. john, i also want to get your reaction to breaking news out of washington state. i.c.e. is confirming that the man who killed a sheriff's deputy and injured another officer there in a shoot-out was indeed in this country illegally. the suspect had an agricultural work visa that expired five years ago. this center for immigration studies estimates 42% of the 11 mill million migrants thought to be living in the u.s. illegally as of 2014 have overstayed their visas. what's the solution?
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i mean, this is -- we've been talking about bambi larson. we exclusively pushed this story for days and days and days. we want justice for her and now we have another person we need justice for. >> any time a law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty is a tragedy but it even more senseless when it's done by someone who shouldn't be here in the united states. one of the concerns i've always had is okay, i.c.e. agents in the past been accused of, why should they be so heavy-handed when they arrest someone. why should they be wearing a vest or jacket or have a gun drawn? is because of situations like this. you don't know how prison is going to react. quite frankly when i look at this, there's something missing here. this is a person that's supposed to be an agricultural worker who leads police on a high-speed chase and then guns down two train police officers, one who's killed and another is seriously injured. we do this is what we always hear. who's going to pick the blueberries? if i hear that one more time, who's going to pick the blueberries and who's going to pick the raspberries? someone did pick the fruit and
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ended up killing someone. that's why we have laws. year of an orderly presence of people who want be part of our great american experiment and representative democracy. >> sanctuary cities. >> laura: oh, no. >> they're going to say he didn't have a criminal record mission focus on it. >> laura: if they pick him up, if they had picked him up for something else, a year ago, they wouldn't have honored a detainer anyway. that's where this is. it's a travesty and the people of california have got to wake up. thank you, john. new zealand's ban on semiautomatic weapons following that horrible mosque, series of mosque attacks has now spurred because you do the same here. is that a good idea? congressman steve scalise himself a victim of gun violence, has some thoughts on the next. you control your blood sugar
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>> every semiautomatic weapon used in the terrorist attack on friday will leave and in this country. >> laura: new zealand's assault weapons ban comes a week after that deadly terrorist attack on two mosques. democrats mutely praise the response and pushed for similar action here in the united states. bernie sanders tweeted "this is what real action to stop gun violence look like." we must follow new zealand's lead." and alexandria ocasio-cortez also chimed in saying that
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within days new zealand acted to get weapons of war off the consumer market, this is what leadership looks like. joining me now, someone uniquely qualified to address this issue, house minority whip steve scalise. congressman, you heard bernie and aoc praising the leadership of new zealand, saying that let's get it done here. are they right? >> well, laura, the first thing we all should do is keep in mind that there are 50 victims and we should pray for them. but when you hear liberals in washington talk about gun control, it's much less about guns and more about control. if you look, they've been trying to control every aspect of people's lives. just a few weeks ago, they passed a bill to take away first amendment rights. everybody from the aclu to national right to life so they were infringing on the first amendment rights. then a few weeks before that, they passed a bill to take away some more of your second amendment rights. we are talking about law-abiding citizens. we are not talking about people that are out committing these crimes, already violating laws
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on the books. enforce the laws that are out there. don't infringe upon the rights of law-abiding citizens. unfortunately that's what democrats want to do in washington. we have a second amendment in this country. >> laura: they are very different countries. we've had our share of terrible gun violence obviously that is reprehensible and horrific, so they point to high-capacity magazines. got to get those off the streets. no reason to have an ar-15. isn't an error 151 of the most popular rifles in the united states? that's a lot of weapons you have to confiscate i guess if that's what they want to do. >> laura, this is the danger of what they're trying to do. when you look at their definition of semiautomatic weapons, automatic weapons have already been banned since 1986. semiautomatic weapons, when they described them, in many cases they are talking about hunting rifles. they are talking about weapons people buy to defend themselves in their home. these aren't the weapons in many cases that are being used as some of these violent crimes. we have a second amendment for a reason that so people can defend
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themselves against criminals. >> laura: yeah. i want to play something that happened with al eval she'd come over there at msnbc and dana milbank's. let's watch. >> i want to go somewhere else because no one in america has suggested banning any guns but we have so many guns in this country that it causes other problems. while mass shootings get our attention because they are so tragic. >> we live in a different system. we have constitutional obstacles but it is outrageous that all we hear, it's become this cliche, thoughts and prayers. it's not doing anything to stop this from happening. >> laura: constitutional obstacles? that's not how i view the constitution. >> listen to what they say. they view the constitution as an obstacle they can go around. the constitution is a framework of our country. it's what makes us in america better than everybody else in the world in terms of a country
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where you actually have rights that are given to you not for men and women but from god, and you have those rights for reasons of that you can protect yourself in your home. >> laura: i'm happy to take all the thoughts and prayers that i can get every day. and i am given them to you. >> they meant a lot to me. >> laura: they sure did and we were praying for you and we continue to. congressman, thank you so much. up next, a fuzzy little furry fluff ball and a car. it's tonight's last bite. what the world? ♪ heartburn and gas? ♪ fight both fast tums chewy bites with gas relief all in one relief of heartburn and gas ♪ ♪ tum tum tum tums tums chewy bites with gas relief
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