this. it has been 675 days of investigation and wait. and now movement. that is "the story" on friday night. i'm harris in for martha. ♪ >> tucker: this is a fox news alert. for close to two years, american politics has been stuck in a state of suspended animation. for go years, this city, the city of washington has been utterly consumed by the far-reaching investigation of special counsel robert mueller. the business of running the government and improving the live osthing people who live here have been a distalent second for two years -- distant second for two years. tonight the mueller era is ending. 5:00 p.m. this afternoon, mule maualuga delivered the report to the attorney general of the united states -- robert mueller delivered the report to the attorney general barr. i'm tucker carlson and this is "tucker carlson tonight." it's not released yet but we know some things. we want to start with mollie

hemingway who is following this since the first day. thank you for coming on. what strikes you about what we know now? >> well, we really went know yet what is in the report. there are calls for people to be transparent about it. one thing we found out today there are no new indictments coming from the special counsel. the reason why that is significant if you take a step back and you think about what brought us here. several years ago political operation that was sec relately bought and paid for by the hillary clinton campaign and the democratic national committee to claim trump was an agent of russia. this was fed to the media, who largely took it uncritically and they accepted it and they pushed it back out. then weaponized by some of the highest level of the federal government. used to justify wiretaps against the trump campaign affiliates the placing of the human informants against the campaign. for years we had a slow drip

of stories that when it calm out we'd find that the trump was an agent of russia. learning that there are no more indictments coming down, if it were true and he was an agent of russia you wouldn't see one indictment. you would see hundreds. >> tucker: justified indictments if he was an agent of a foreign power. >> we'd take it seriously. >> tucker: we would. >> we are promised there are evidence. high-ranking member of congress claimed there was evidence. to find out that there no evidence to support dine itment against anyone affiliated with the president. we have had other people thought up in the probe. but not for the treasonous collusion to steal the election. people should be held accountable for spreading this without evidence.

>> tucker: i agree. the spreading of the fact that the presidential campaign spied upon by the rival party. obama spied on trump's campaign. pretense was the russian collusion but they did it. why isn't the press more curious and why hasn't obama testified why it was allowed? why don't we know more? >> part of the reason i don't think we have had more answers from president obama is the first issue. mark is incurious about this. normally this is the story reporters wait a lifetime for to find out that the f.b.i. was so politicized they were running informants or spying on a presidential campaign they successfully secured wiretap against an individual that there are no further charges come something the wiretap was run against the individual. there might have been several wiretaps against individuals with no indictments coming so that means they were harassed by the federal government and not what the federal government claimed. >> tucker: that is it right there.

so the proof is in the indictment and look thereof. if i violate civil liberties and if i destroy your reputation you can't have a job again -- they have done it for a number of people. then i don't indict you for the crimes, doesn't it mean i was wrong and you were right? >> certainly the evidence does not suggest they were right to have secured wiretaps against the people and they behaved poorly. you here people say mueller wrapping up so let's move on from this. good to know trump not an agent of putin. as if there were not real harm or damage caused by people weaponizing the information operation that was a hillary clinton campaign operation. as if the country weren't harmed by it or the attorney jern were not kneecapped as if they didn't pay money to defend themselves. or that you didn't have the people undermining the administration for several years. people need to be held accountable for what they did to spread the theory. inside the government and

outside the government. the media wanted to quickly move on and quickly justify the behavior. i don't think people forget what they were subjected to and how those who were skeptical were treated now we see there are no more indictments. >> tucker: they injected poise on the bloodstream of the country. you are right to note jeff sessions whose rep tallets was destroyed. >> -- whose reputation was destroyed. he was attack bud the president he faithfully served because of the investigation. >> he shouldn't have recused himself. >> tucker: i agree. he was an honorable man and he has been hurt. there are so many victims of this. i home someone takes time to apologize to each one and try to make it right. mollie hemingway, great to see you. thank you for starting off the show. you have heard that the mueller report arrived with no further indictments according to a senior official. that is it. no one else will be indicted for collusion or in addition

addition -- in addition else. so not a single individual charged with anything related to russian collusion. not roger stone or paul manafort or carter page and not trump. many of the people have had lives ruined by the mueller investigation. some could die in prison. not one of them colluded with russia. the people on tv have been lying to you. they will deny it now. they will tell you it was always about trump's taxes or some foreign real estate deal or hush money he paid to a girlfriend. that is a crock. this investigation was always from day one about collusion with russia. about betraying this country. they told us that for years. and we have the tape. >> what makes you believe that he has more indictments? >> because he hasn't addressed the issues related to criminal conspiracy as well as any

individual -- >> criminal conspiracy involving the russians? >> yes. >> is -- that is an area you know something about. it was developing while you were on the job. >> it was in terms of looking at what was going on with the russians and whether or not u.s. persons were actively collaborating, colluding, cooperating and involved a conspiracy with them or not. but also if there is going to be any member of -- >> did you see enough at that stage to believe that would result in indictments once investigated? >> i thought at the time there was going to be individuals who were going to have issues with the department of justice. >> tucker: so that was the former c.i.a. director. one of countless retired intel officials you see parading across your screen every night. all of them paid by the msnbc or cnn to tow the party line. all of them know better. they are lying. a habit many picked up years ago.

members of congress did the same. pick one among a thousand examples this is tennessee steve cohen telling us most of the trump family is bound for prison. >> well, i think they are getting closer knowing that the truth is going to come out and that there was activities with the trump campaign and russia and releasing the hacks and guiding them to the states and localities where they came from. some of that was jared kushner's responsibilities. some of it was donald jr. i think you will probably see indictments of both of those people. >> tucker: that man is a sitting member of congress. he is wearing necktie. he is on television. people believed him. why would they? he is an authority figure in this country. and he was lying. so was senator richard blumenthal who has spent years bringing shame to the state of connecticut and he embarrassed himself further on mock certainty on this and many, many other occasions. >> there are indictments in this president's future. they're coming. whether they are after his presidency or during it, obviously the department of

justice said cannot indict a sitting president. >> tucker: of course, there was howard dean the former governor of vermont. dean was also if you remember that far back to 2004 a presidential candidate. at one point it looked like he would be the nominee of the democratic party. he went on to run the d.n.c. he is on television constantly. people long whispered that howard dean is not all there. they say he yells so much because he can't think well. he is so slow it takes him hour and a half to watch "60 minutes." you don't want to believe it's true. it sounds cruel. but they might be right. >> we believe we may have a criminal in the white house. the next step is the trump family itself. i expect there is a good likelihood that jared kushner will be indicted for money laundering and then we have to see how far the russian involvement goes. this is serious business. the people are undermining our democracy. >> tucker: it was never serious business. another lie. it was ludicrous. it was always ludicrous.

no matter how much evidence you muster you will never convince stallwell of that. the original collusion truther. there is no evidence of the russian conspiracy that stallwell -- been on the show many times -- isn't eager to believe and magnify. he should have an overnight show on a.m. radio and tell us how putin runs bilderberg. cnn, of course, loves eric swalwell. for years they broadcast uncritically every lunatic claim that swalwell ever made. here is one example. >> it's looking more and more, wolf, that donald trump was a part of a criminal campaign, criminal transition and now presides over a criminal presidency. >> tucker: a criminal presidency. what is criminal is what just happened. we have lived through three separate investigations in to russia collusion. not just mueller. but committee in the house and a committee in the senate.

they spent years looking in this. in the end, they found nothing. but during that time this country, the country they are supposed to be running has become obviously and measurably worse. suicide, drug o.d.s are up. life expectancy is falling. the borders are a mess. we have no clue who lives in this country. to the tune of millions of people. maybe tens of millions. no idea. the schools are a joke. you wouldn't send your kids to them if you had a choice. infrastructure is crumbling. hundreds of thousands of americans sleep outside every night. what are the leaders talking about? what do they spend time obsessing over? what do they get tv bookings to rant about? irrelevant meeting with a minor russian lawyer in trump tower three years ago. the new york city subway barely works. the largest city in the united states smells like garbage. people are fleeing it. what does bill de blasio, the mayor, talk about? he is ranting about putin. this has been a disaster.

how can we let people who are responsible for it continue as if it never happened? how can eric swalwell and adam schiff keep their seats in the house of representatives? they should resign. how can jeff zucker remain at cnn after we now know much of what his network told us for two years is a total lie? it is a total lie. what about the victims of this monstrosity? there are many. roger stone is facing life in prison. he was indicted by an investigation deseined to find collusion -- designed to find collusion. minor charges. dragged from his own home in a morning f.b.i. raid. they put an amphibious vehicle outside his house and pointed an automatic weapon in his face to find collusion. but there was no collusion. stone is still looking at life in prison. where is roger stone's pardon? his pardon from the president? let's hope it comes very soon. the mueller investigation is over as of tonight but the wreckage remains.

forsake of the country let's clean it up and move on. chris hahn radio host and a farmer staffer to chuck schumer and he joins us tonight. you have been one of the people from the beginning saying i'm concerned there was criminal collusion from the president and russia. when the leaders sell us out to another country, we should be upset. but tonight it's not true. no one indicted for it. how are you celebrating this great news? >> look, i don't think anybody wanted to see the president indicted for colluding with a foreign power. >> tucker: of course not! >> seeing that there are no more indictments coming down we have to read the report and find out what happened. i don't think anyone is owed an apology based on the trump rule where you don't apologize for anything ever. >> i'm not invoking the trump rule. i'm invoking common sense, decency and logic. people alleged a crime. no crime was found unless you accuse mueller being in trump's camp.

i don't think anyone thinks that. >> i'm not. >> tucker: no crime was found. if there is a crime, and we can prove it, we indictment. if we don't, we don't. that is straightforward. you are an attorney. you know that. >> absolutely. >> tucker: why aren't we celebrating this? i'm confused. >> i think that everybody wants to read the report before they celebrate anything. i know i want to read the report. >> tucker: really? i want to read it too. i agree. >> when the attorney general releases it forthwith. it should be released to public barring anything that needs to be redacted for national security. >> tucker: you find no disagreement here. >> i think you would join me to say we should see it at the same time. >> tucker: okay, i want to see other documents like the fisa warrant that allowed the obama administration to spy unshoutses and rival campaign on the basis of what? why can't we see these? >> hold on. there were 20 russians that were indicted by the special counsel. >> tucker: good.

you have don't care. they're russians. i'm talking about american -- >> that may have stemmed from the fisa warrant. >> tucker: hold on. stop. hold on. why don't we find out? hold on. i don't care how the u.s. government treats foreign citizens. don't care on the border or if they are russian agents. i care about the american citizens. the point of the government is protect them. american citizens had civil liberties slighted by the obama administration on the basis of what? we don't know. why can't i see the fisa requests? >> i think the requests might be part of the report. they will definitely be part of the underlying documentation of the report. we should see it. i think the president should declassify everything in this report. >> i'm with you on that. >> today. >> tucker: i agree. and the fisa warrant. >> mar-a-largo and declassify everything. release everything to the public right now so we can see the underlying documentation behind -- >> tucker: again. we are having a vigorous agreement here. we only played to the tip of the cable news iceberg, the

tape of we have of people predicting indictment of every member of the trump family, calling trump a criminal, calling him treasonous, betraying the country, and all these people were lying. or guessing at best. >> none of us knew. >> why allege it? they are on the house intelligence committee. they oversee the intel community. how can they get away with saying that? we learn it is not true and they keep their seats. how does that work exactly? >> how did they do that when the republicans were investigating hillary clinton and the benghazi and the e-mails? >> okay. the republicans are bad. you won't get -- >> i don't hear people camming for them to resign. >> tucker: i didn't have the show then. >> thank god but none of us called for them to resign. >> tucker: i'm now asking you a simple question. i'm not here to defend republicans. i attack them all the time.

trust me. i mean it when i do. i want to know how anybody of any party who stood up and alleged a crime, especially some with access to the highest level of the classified information on the house intel committee proven wrong, proven a liar can hold his seat after that? i don't understand. how can you do that? you lied. that is caught. >> that is up to the people, to the american people who put them in their seats and that is something for their opponent to challenge them in election. that is what we live in. a democracy. >> tucker: it might be helpful -- >> if you don't like what somebody said you vote them out. >> tucker: okay. no. maybe there is a thing called honor and decency. >> no. >> tucker: is there's not? okay. so what you are saying is the chairman of the house intelligence committee, one of the most powerful members of congress, one of the most powerful people in country is a known reckless serial liar and we are okay with him running the intelligence committee? adam schiff can run the committee still? >> i think that what congressman schiff said was

there might be counterintelligence issues that we need to look at, that may not have been criminal. we don't know what kind of the influence the president is under due to the financial dealings. it might be outlawed in this, too. it might not be criminal or to the level of dine itment but it might -- indictment but it might be something the americans should understand. that is why we need the entire report. >> tucker: adam schiff accused of deeply reckless and deeply dishonest member of congress, adam schiff -- >> i don't believe that. >> tucker: he accused the chairman, his kids and me on camera of working for the russian government. now we know that is not true. if you were doing that you would be indicted. none of us were. how can he have -- >> well hold on amount. >> tucker: -- the role of chairman of the house intel committee? how does he have access to classified information after that? i'm serious. >> you are suggesting that everything he suggested was a criminal action that required an indictment. that is not necessarily what

he said. there are a lot of things that need to be understood by the american people. that is what the report might show us. >> tucker: i believe betraying your country -- >> okay. we'll see. thank you, good to see you. michael tracy independent journalist on the road covering the presidential race. he joins us tonight from undisclosed location. michael tracy, you are one of the very few people who noted this weird nexus between news outlets and retired intelligence officials. this seems like unhealthy arrangement to me. >> yes. >> tucker: do you think it is? >> i think it's unhealthy. i think it will contribute to a fundamental inability for the media to self-reflect on what it got so horrendously wrong throughout the episode. if john brennan is a colleague of yours at a different network, then that mult disincentivize you to do a thorough audit of the practices which led to a false impression being conveyed across the air awe -- airways

about what the stories entailed. this past weekend we marked the anniversary of the iraq invasion. since then, all the top media promoters of the investigation ascended to high level of power and influence. i could name a couple. many of whom appear on this network. >> tucker: you're right. one of them is the national security adviser of the united states right now. yes. >> if you could speak to president trump i'd ask him why are you, why did you appoint john bolton one of the main promoters of the iraq war to be the national security adviser when you said multiple times the war was a disaster? that is a digression. but the point this is a media story of the comparable magnitude. less depth, thankfully. but just as much, the total factual indiscretion. >> tucker: yes. >> i feel like something similar will happen where the people who were proven decisively wrong and have

proven to have deceiverred the american people for two plus years, approaching three years actually, they are not going to pay any price or face any consequence. if you or i or normal people failed at their job miserably, they'd get demoted or fired or suffer some reputational consequence. but not so for the media elite who have been leading the charge of the story who had a lot of influence on the security state officials like andrew mccabe who low-launched one of the investigations in to trump at the f.b.i. listen to andrew mccabe on the recent book tour. it almost sounds like he is a devoted reader of david from from "the atlantic." from worked from president bush and leading advocate of iraq war and russia-gate. a lot of crossover there. >> tucker: there is. >> but andrew mccabe seemed like he was just scrolling through twitter like reading the "new york times" or something. he didn't have privileged

information that we know of that led him to launch unprecedented investigation in the democratically elected president. >> tucker: you want to finish out the segment with this question to you. you got right to it. i think it was yesterday, the former f.b.i. director james comey wrote an op-ed in which he preducted what we found -- predicted what we found out tonight. no indictment or collusion. the obvious suggestion is that james comey had some inside information in the mueller investigation. shouldn't it shake all of our faith in the institution? >> it's already shaken the faith of many people. i don't think it will make a difference. let me say one thing. i'm happy to disclose the location. new hampshire. where the presidential candidates are campaigning. the democratic presidential candidates totally beclowned themselves on this issue. because they have in large part adopted the most

maximalist interpretation of what this consisted of irrespective of others saying let's not leap to conclusions. chelsea gabbard said the people calling trump russias puppet contradict that trump has taken aggressive action toward russia. that is what the democrats should emphasize. >> tucker: totally right. >> rather than the conspiracy rabbit hole. >> tucker: for her to say that is an act of bravery now. michael, thank you for joining us tonight. it's good to see you. >> thanks. >> tucker: probably nobody has covered the story more closely than kimberly strassel of the "wall street journal." we are happy to have her on tonight to make sense of what we know now. what do you think we know now?

from the lummed data we have at -- limited data we have at this point. what are you concluded. >> a couple of things that the prior guests pointed. one, the important thing is that it is done. two years on. that matters for a couple of reasons. it's not just the fact that it removes this cloud hanging over washington. but this also enautomobiles the president to -- enables the president from doing things he is constrained from doing. every time he would contemplate a certain action, they would say you can't do that. you are obstructing the mueller probe. that is removed and that will change the dynamic in d.c. that is one. two, no indictments. obvious limaollue hemingway -- obly, mollie went through why that is important. and bill barr sent a letter to congress and he pointed out as he required to do under the special counsel gudelines he had no cause at any point to overrule any of mueller decisions in the end. so that puts the other vast conspiracy theory going around

the last couple of years that somehow mueller was never going to be able to complete the work, that obviously there would be political interference. remember everyone saying we needed to have the legislation in congress to protect the special counsel? he was never in any risk of that. basically the barr transmission proves it. i also suggests reading the tea leaves that perhaps the mueller report is straight up if bill barr didn't feel there was anything he had to intervene on. >> tucker: how much of -- i'm so struck that huge number of the conspiracy theories seem to bubble up from the special media, twitter especially. then emerge from the mouths of the elected officials. supposedly responsible people. how broke and complex is this conspiracy world that a lot of left lives in right now? >> well, you make a great point. we should have been done with this. we should have finished all of this and had a conclusion more

than a year ago when the conditioningial committees -- when the congressional committees after months of diligent work admitted they could have find no evidence to support claims that people made on the other side. if you step back from that. we also should have known from the work that robert mueller was doing himself. court case after court case dealing with the central figures here. none of which in any of the filings, any of the court documents had any reference to any of the main collusion conspiracy theories out there. if anyone had taken a deep breath, this would have all been obvious some time ago. but there is an entire industry and you mention congressmenment you mentioned the media. that have an interest in riling this up every day as the way to delegitimize this presidency. and not just the presidency but his agenda as well, too. which is a very clever way of doing it. you say the guy at the top is corrupt. therefore everything he is doing is corrupt. so there is a political

advantage for them having done this all these years. >> of course. they have pressed that advantage. thank you so much for that. good to see you tonight. >> thank you. >> tucker: one of roger stone's associates, of course he released a statement to fox news tonight about the end of the mueller probe. here it is. "i feel vindicated they offered me a plea deal i thought was fraudulent i did not willingly give them information i knew was false. the fact is i wasn't going the lie to keep myself out of prison. i did nothing wrong and it's clear i did nothing wrong or they would have prosecuted me." of course he was threatened and pressured to sign a deal that would have sent him to prison. he refused. in the end he was never charged at all. what does out tell you about the investigation? that fact right there. fox news alert for those of you just joining us stops. the mueller report has been delivered. the investigation is over. the report sits with the attorney general. no indictment for collusion or

anything else coming next. the democrats are already pivoting. adam schiff previously said collusion was a certain thing. he knew it. the evidence was hiding in plain sight, he said. that was a lie. now he says it doesn't matter anymore. more investigations are coming no matter what. >> want of the great many of the unanswered questions and if they are not answered, then we will have to answer them. we have to find the truth. >> tucker: oh, the truth. three investigations, two years, not enough. so what is the new plan for the democratic party going forward? chief national correspondent ed henry joins us with that. >> it's good to see you. this has been a situation where you had adam schiff, eric swalwell, you have mentioned them before. they had visions of collusion, obstruction, maybe sugar plums dancing in their heads for a couple of years now.

out hasn't been there -- it hasn't been there. they missed a key point. follow the facts. maybe to his credit, we need to see the details of the report. maybe robert mueller actually followed the facts. this is an important point. you and i were on together in mid-january. remember the night that robert mueller to his great credit came forward and said the buzzfeed story was wrong, that claimed that president trump had directed michael cohen to lie to congress. that was critical because "a," cnn and others ran with that buzzfeed report and said if true, this could lead to impeachment. robert mueller saying it's not true. secondly it exposed of the schiff and other democrats got ahead of the facts. a lot of people in our business who got ahead of the facts. >> tucker: you have to wonder that is right and not for the first time we had a guest a moment ago, michael

tracy, who pointed out that there was similar support for the idea that the weapons of mass destruction in iraq. for the record, i believed there were, but there weren't. so you have to wonder no one was ever really sidelined after that. will there be reassetsments in news organizations after tonight? >> i think you know the answer to that. it's highly unlikely even though there should be a lot of questions about all of this. i think look the president and his allies have been out there attacking robert mueller. maybe now they will do some soul searching to say that worked politically. but mule maualuga -- robert mueller essentially clears the president. if, if if. they could say we like mueller. he followed the facts. i think all sides here have been jumping ahead of this, tucker, when in fact maybe everybody should have take an breath. you have been urging this for a long time.

there was this hysteria about everything associated with russia. and were there contacts between trump officials and russia in yes. we have seen that where papadopoulos and others. but what? he spent a week and a few days in jail. nothing to be trifled with. but his life was essentially destroyed. carter page who had james comey and other people. you talk about the weapons of mass destruction and i think of how many people in the government did we trust, that they know, that there were weapons of mass destruction? how many people in this f.b.i. and the justice department did we all think we could trust that if they will get a fisa warrant and surveil american citizen they will have the facts, tucker. >> tucker: let me ask you this since you cover this. have you heard anything about pardons? specifically on roger stone who looks like he could literally spend the rest of his life in prison for process crime that wouldn't have arisen without the investigation that turned out to be pointless in the first place. have you heard anyone in white

house talk about the president pardons roger phone is >> no. i have heard people outside the white house to tell me clearly to let the investigation plays out before he discusses pardons or does anything. based on the conversations i have had, i don't want to get ahead of it. it is possible you could see manafort, stone and others pardoned. i'm not saying they will be. >> tucker: i understand. >> but it's been discussed by the president's allies outside the white house. what is made clear to me in my reporting -- i think this is wise counsel to president of the united states, if you start to talk about the pardons or pan done people before mueller -- pardoned people before mueller is finished it looks like you are impeding the investigation. >> tucker: of course. >> another important point. how many times did we here schiff and others say we must pass this piece of legislation to protect mueller act. because president trump will fire him. it will be the second version of the saturday night massacre. none of that happened. yes, did the president tweet,

did he say it with -- was a witch hunt? did he get there and fight back? yes, he did. but he is entitled to do that. the first amendment protects us and the president. >> tucker: fair point. >> to be speak out. but the bottom line is that mueller didn't need legislation to, quote/unquote, protect him. he was never fire and rosenstein was never fire and now we have the report. >> amazing day. >> good to see you. >> tucker: thank you. good to see you. joined now by the former d.o.j. official. francie hicks. we read a story from jerome corsi conservative writer around washington, a book author who got for the various and boring reasons sucked in the investigation. he was threatened with the indictment by the mueller investigation. he refused to admit whatever crimes they claimed he was committing and they never indicted him. that seems fraudulent to me. didn't seem like a straightforward honest,

honorable way to conduct an investigation. if you believe a man is guilty, indict him. if not, don't threaten him. i don't understand what is going on there. >> i don't either. i promise you when i was a prosecutor if i had evidence to indict someone i'd indict them. if i told them i'd indict them, i would indict them. that makes no sense to me. it does make it look fraudulent. this investigation is like a sword of dameclese over the presidency and the nation. there are a significant number of people who believe the president is russian agent. the irresponsibility of the former intelligence personnel and officials in the investigation shocks the conscience. or it should. >> tucker: 67% of the registered democrats believe the russian government changed vote totals in the 2016 election. this country has gone insane. the damage, i'm not sure we can calculate it now. but to the extent we can, how do you estimate damage to the

social fabric and constitutional institutions and the institutions themselves from the investigation? >> you know, tucker it's really sad. i think the worst damage is to our law enforcement institutions. to the department of justice and the f.b.i. i love the department of justice. i'm proud of the time i spent there. i know that there are many men and women there dedicated and who do the right thing. but this really begs the question what is justice? are there two separate systems of justice in this country? one for the elite and one for everybody else. it looks like there is two systems of justice. it's very distressing to me. as someone who fought hard alone most of the time with very little resources for women and children and others who had been victimized to see that the justice system has been so misused. it's disheartening. >> tucker: so third world. what a powerful and a sad statement coming from you, a

former d.o.j. official. francey hakes, thank you for your perspective. sad as it was. good to see you. >> thank you. >> tucker: as we are telling you the mueller report is here. we are tracking every development in washington. seeking out every piece of information that we can find. one of the first people we turn to always for information is fox chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge. she joins us tonight. catherine? >> thank you, tucker. as you note earlier in the show the report was delivered to the attorney general at the justice department. more specifically, special counsel robert mueller indicated he is recommending against further indictments in this case. that is effectively the end of the russia prosecution. what also has been happening here at the justice department has been parallel series of investigations run by the inspector general michael e. horowitz. they have been looking at allegations that the surveillance warrant program with the courts was

potentially abusessed in the 2016 -- abused in the 2016 election. also the leaking of classified information by the senior individuals including james comey at the f.b.i. and also allegations that senior f.b.i. officials took gifts from reporters in violation of the ethics rules. finally what i will say is that when we have the benefit of hindsight and additional information, much of it coming from court transcripts now and lawsuits is that the fall of 2016, there was a fever pitch about russia collusion in the media. it was really billed as an intelligence product. but what i know now from my reporting is that it was not intelligence. it was a fact seated information opposition research. that was given to more than a dozen reporters in washington, tucker. >> tucker: ah, you really have been from the very first day, i think, the single most reliable source of information on this investigation. >> i appreciate that. >> tucker: the picture you are painting is really

troubling. really is. catherine herridge, thank you very much. >> you're welcome. >> tucker: so for more on what this is means we are joined tonight by florida republican congressman matt gaetz. what jumps out on you with this? >> happy no collusion day. >> tucker: happy no collusion day! >> it's tens of millions of dollars spent and team of people in large part were biased against the president and they could not produce evidence to even bring charges for indictment against people for the underlying allegation. conspiracy with the russian federation. you have asked the operative question. what do we do now? my expectation is that we have to have a thorough review of how we got here. how we allowed political opposition research to fuel an investigation that was never found in any fact or reality. then i think we need to seek apology from democrats in congress two said there was stone cold evidence of collusion, they had

demonstrable proof it was happening. if you look at the work the president has tried to do around the world to end wars, reduce conflict and end nuclear proliferation, a lot of it hindered by the lies in this country from the d.n.c. and the clinton campaign. >> tucker: smart point. i can't believe we are allieding over and blowing past the fact that the obama administration spied on the trump campaign. if the trump administration were using the department of justice to spy on the kamala harris for president campaign, that seems to me it would be a very serious breach. and a very big news story. why are we not finding out everything we can about what the obama d.o.j. did to the trump campaign? >> it all goes back to the fact we allow secret courts to operate in the absence of transparency and that invites an opportunity for corruption. >> tucker: right. >> it allows people to politicize highest level of the intelligence and the investigative community so we

need more transparency in the court system. we need senate confirmation of the fisa judges and make opinions public. you know who filed the bill? adam schiff. but now he won't cosponsor his own legislation to revise the fisa process because he doesn't want the same rules that applied to president obama to apply to president trump. it's a double standard and hypocrisy and it doesn't allow us to move past this moment. the country does not want to have to go through 22 months like this again where we are torn apart based on a lie, political dirt and then we have the blessing of our intelligence community and the fisa courts over something that never should have begun. >> tucker: i didn't think i could learn anything new about the story but you taught me something i didn't know. it's shocking. why do we have secret courts in the first place? what country is this anyway? great points, congressman. i'm grateful you came on to tell us about that. thank you. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: well, our coverage of the mueller report now in the hands of the attorney general of the united states continues tonight.

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>> tucker: well, the mueller report is out. the one thing we know is that it did not find collusion. the collusion was created to find. and we know that because no one was indicted for it. it doesn't mean it was harmless. plenty of people had careers and names destroyed by the federal investigators desperate to do the bidding of who knows who? but it happened. trace gallagher joins us to discuss the victims of the mueller probe. trace? >> it is for context imperative to know who got caught up in the special counsel net. there were 34 people and three companies that were either

indicted or pled guilty including 26 russian nationals, three russian companies and six former trump advisers. five of the six former advisers pleaded guilty. but as you say, not a single allegation related to collusion with russia to impact the 2016 election. former trump campaign foreign policy adviser george papadopoulos pleaded guilty in october of 2017 of making false statements to the f.b.i. he was sentenced to 14 days in jail. paul manafort, trump's former campaign chair was indicted on 25 counts of faking documents to obtain loans and financial crimes in connection to his work for the ukrainian politicians. manafort will serve about six and a half years in prison. former trump campaign aide rim -- rick gate named alongside manafort. michael flynn pleaded guilty in december of 2017 to making false statements to the f.b.i. michael cohen, trump's former lawyer pleaded guilty to tax

and bank fraud and campaign finance violations related to the hush money payments to women alleged affairs with trump. and finally roger stone, along-time trump adviser indicted for obstruction. and michael caputo blamed them for forcing them out of the home and crushing the children with the immense legal costs associated with defending themselves. tucker? >> tucker: trace gallagher, thank you for that. >> sure. >> tucker: laura ingraham hosts "ingraham angle" is here and a friend and grate to feel have her in the studio -- grateful to have her in the studio tonight. thank you for coming. a big media angle to this. the press drove a lot of this behavior and drove the investigation. at fox, we are allowed to say by the network whatever we think is true. they support us completely in that. i'm grateful for it. if you watch the other coverage really they are reading every hour from the

same -- maddow clearly says what she wants but everyone else seems so read from a script that jeffsucker wrote. how -- jeff zucer wrote. >> i think the collusion between the media, the d.n.c., the deep state is profound. and the international elite who wants this to be true. there is an international angle here. we look at the ukraine angle there. san international angle here. trump came along and he was can great disruptor on the scene. i don't buy into what you are doing for the e.u. and your confabs and your wine sellers and the think tank. the industry employs thousands of people. trump said this is not working well. he was an existential threat to them. they shell out the money for people like john meacham -- i

like him, he is a talented writer. but if someone like john meacham was caught up in this at msnbc. i looked at this. he said this is the testify in addition of treason. and he is a historian. he is a pulitzer prize winning writer. if someone like that can get caught and ensnared in this frothy frenzy to get trump, we have a big problem on our hands. i'm so glad. i watched every minute of your show tonight, tucker. as i do every night. but what you said about the need for consequences and repercussions is just like things like jussie smollett or uva rape case or what happened with the calving -- kavanaugh leakses. either the public should watch something else or there needs to be a an investigation by bill barr how it went down. the fisa warrant and the leaks that happen. all this stuff has to be looked at. this cannot happen to another

president of the united states. >> tucker: i agree. democrat or a republican. >> i don't care who you are. the criminalization of politics brought down individuals who are caught up in the gears and the machinery of the prosecution complex in this country. >> tucker: that is literally true. people call for my firing every day. >> ditto. >> tucker: yours, too. >> but think more slowly about the issues. >> tucker: i agree. i just wonder -- i'm grateful to work here. i'll say that again. i wonder how can jeff zucker run the channel after what we have seen. they are clearly getting information about this investigation, and they put it on the air as propaganda and it turned out to be lies. how can you do that? >> all that, you know, the buddhist said the fingers point back at you. so everything they say at trump, state run tv. colluding. colluding and the state run

tv, they are working for the deep state or elite state or whatever you call it. they are colluding and trump is like wait a second i'm just a guy from new york. i came in and i want to make this country better. i'm like my own man and i know i'm going to tick you off but i want america to thrive and be prosperous. really well thought of people who are smart people are throwing the word "treason," "traitor." the guy should be in handcuffs and led from the oval office -- all these people should look in the mirror and say maybe i need to re-examine how i speak on the issue in the future. not that we don't all make mistakes. we do. i do, you do. >> tucker: i made big mistakes. >> as do i. these were pronouncements that would destroy families, destroy presidencies. and as you pointed out early -- i'm so glad you did -- the lost opportunities that we might have actually worked with countries that could box out china on things. you mean do we really not want to work with russia on anything ever again? last time i checked, china has

the biggest threat to the united states. russia's economy is the size of france's. >> tucker: texas. >> c'mon! now russia and china are doing military exercises and we are on sideline going okay, we have to act really mean on everything with russia because of the mueller investigation. it had a profound policy effect i think on the government. >> tucker: yes. >> and we will never know really the effect on the american people, the geopolitical position. that must be examined. >> tucker: on the social fabric. you have notice out here like you, i am not from washington but i spent most of my life here. you, too. i have known you for most of the time. this city become paranoid, distrustful, angry. i talk to people all the tomb. i can't text that to you. i don't trust my text. what do you mean? what country is this? i can't have the information, i'm too nervous? people are afraid. do you want to live in a place where people are afraid? >> it's a prosecution state becomes so big and so powerful, a mere accusation

can turn your life upside down. >> tucker: yes! >> trump has money and he can defend himself. >> tucker: right. >> he happened to be innocent of these charges. he knew it all along. everyone who said, he is, why is he meeting behind closed doors with the russians? why did he vladimir putin dash whatever the criticismsh -- whatever the criticism. maybe he knew to look past mueller and do the right thing at the moment for the country. they never give him that benefit of the doubt. he deserved it and he never got it from them. >> tucker: what happens next? >> i think the left is going to go into a deeper rage. i think they will learn nothing from this sadly. maybe some of the smarter folks like meacham and others will. but i think now it will turn to -- it's not transparent. barr was brought in to be the clean-up man here. this isn't a serious review. like we see on the socialism

lurch, leaning or slouching to socialism in this case they will be in a precarious position with the interim anger -- internal anger saying we finally got the road runner. wily coyote. like the acme t.n.t. beep, beep! he is gone again. i think they will freak. i think they will freak. i don't think much will change. but it will mean they will move more radical on the policy front and try to whip up more enthusiasm that way. you don't see what else they do. to put the hope in the southern district. going back to that? the southern district of new york? >> tucker: fro guessk -- progresskly politicized. >> yes. >> tucker: who is on your show? >> ken starr and u. counsel and byron york looks in the media and devin nunes is going to join us. >> tucker: i'll watch with in my room. thank you for being on.

>> anytime. >> tucker: fox news alert. for two years washington has been completely halted by the mueller investigation. now it's ending. both the republicans and the democrats scramble to respond to what we know so far. peter doocy is tracking the reaction on the hill and he joins us now. hey, peter. >> tucker, the democratic lawmakers are already saying that the d.o.j. needs to do more than just tell them what mueller concluded. they want to eyeball the evidence themselves. if that is not allowed, some democratic lawmakers are now preparing to subpoena the special counsel mueller. >> i would first argue that the department cannot adopt a double standard. and should cooperate willing will. -- cooperate willingly. if it doesn't they'll have to subpoena mueller and others to answer questions. >> a different concern from the top democrat in the senate. chuck schumer. he wants to make sure that the trump-appointed attorney general does not send trump

attorneys a cop pill of the report bind -- copy of the court binding before the democrats can inspect it. >> senator schumer: attorney general barr must not give president trump, his lawyers or his staff any sneak preview of special counsel mueller's findings or evidence. and the white house must not be allowed to interfere in decisions about what parts of those findings or evidence should be made public. >> democrat mark warner who helped lead a senate investigation in to possible russian collusion has this statement tonight. "the special counsel's report must be provided to congress immediately and the attorney general should swiftly prepare a declassified version of the report for the public. nothing short of that will suffice." warner works on the investigation with richard burr, intel committee chairman who says this. "i trust special counsel mueller conducted a fair and a thorough investigation and i look forward to reviewing his report." so far, nobody in either party

on capitol hill has seen this report. but some republicans are already saying told you so. like steve scalise says there will be no new indictments confirm what is we knew all along that there was never collusion with russia. republican senator lindsey graham says, "you always believed it was important that mr. mueller be allowed to do his job without interference and that has been accomplished." lawmakers on the phone i spoke to expect to get some information about the findings this weekend. but one issue in terms of actually putting their hands on it, just about everybody is out of town. tucker? >> tucker: peter doocy. great to see you. thank you very much. i want to wrap up this hour with calmness, perspective, decency and kindness. the person we go to is dana perino. >> i have good news. >> tucker: what is it? >> i'll save it to the end.

ask me question. >> tucker: my question is open-ended. you have watched all of this for two years. >> yeah. >> tucker: tonight is not, it's not the final moment. but this is the beginning of the final moment. >> i think if it's not the final moment, just reading even at blogs they are saying that, i don't know if it's over. obviously we want to see the report. >> tucker: right. >> people will not be satisfied until they see the underlying documents. as laura and you were talking about does there need to be repercussions for bad behavior at the d.o.j., et cetera? however, i would say this. this investigation was shorter than the ones in the years past. although it felt really long. >> tucker: yeah. >> but it's thorough. mueller was never fired. he was allowed to do his work. and the new attorney general did not interfere, did not block anything. he is wrapping it up. so institutions hold. there is not a constitutional crisis. >> tucker: right. >> even has to worry about. i'm also, i'm very interested to found out from the report

about russia's involvement trying to interfere in the elections. because what we know from the intelligence committee is they are not stopping. as kirstjen nielsen said on our air earlier in week, cyber security is a huge problem for us. i will be interested to see what 2020 democrat would be willing to pivot away from this and say okay. we have always said that robert mueller could be allowed to do his work. he was allowed to do his work. let's let the work stand. let's now turn to how we can better govern the country. which democrat is going to do that? any of them that would do that? if they can't do that? they are going to miss out on all the people saying wait, you just said that mueller was supposed to finish the investigation. how he has. so let's wait, see what bill barr does. i think it could take time. they have to redact anything that is executive priv lidge, anything that is grand jury or classified or intelligence. it's not going to happen by monday. okay? we'll get conclusions but it's not going to happen by monday.

ready for the -- >> tucker: ready for the good news. >> the silver lining and the good news. if it turns out that this is it, right, that mueller dud the report, that there is no collusion, that there is no more dine itment, -- indictment, isn't that good news for america? there were attempted by russia , or any evidence it worked. you feel like america should be relieved. >> i agree. >> that is it. so let's turn to the most important issues we have to deal with and we would rather talk about. >> tucker: things are better than we thought or schiff claimed they were. i hoped that show on the note and laughed at by a democrat. i agree with you. >> no laughing here. >> tucker: no laughing here. thank you, dana, very much. >> thank you. >> tucker: well, it's been quite an hour. we are out of time. but fox's coverage of the mueller report will continue throughout tonight and in to the weekend and on until every

detail is known. we will be back at 8:00 p.m. on monday, the show that is sworn enemy of the lying, pomposity, smugness and group think. have a happy with all your loved ones. good night from washington. sean>> welcome to "hannity: tru vs. the swamp". we start with a fox news alert. the favorite conspiracy theory is dead. there was nothing. the witch-hunt is over and there will be no further charges, no further indictments after 675 days and nine month before that with the fbi investigation. in other words, almost three years, total of an intensive investigation. robert mueller's report has officially been submitted to the attorney general of the united states. president trump, no more indictments, no collusion charges