is that true story on this monday night. thank you for being here. on thursday bret baier and i will be town hall with howard schultz. tucker is up next. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." joe biden isn't technically nut presidential race. is he frontrunner right now that could change due to biden sniffing the hair of unwilling women. the joe biden hair sniffing scandal more on that ahead. also the jussie smollett story continues to unfold. we will talk to the lawyer for the nigerian brothers who told police they were hired to attack smollett. that's just in a moment. first tonight there is always something a little poignant about the end of something. maybe that's why people get drunk on new year's eve to forget it. sad to think that a whole year is over. if you think new year's is

depressing. how far would you feel if you thought that all life on this planet was ending soon? 3 million years of human history erased forever. sad. isn't it? chris hast hayes think so chris hayes is what every man would be apologetic, a speck spectacle and deeply deeply concerned about global warming and the patriarch call. he hosted a town hall event with alexandria ocasio-cortez designed to promote her green new deal. this apparently seemed like a wise idea to executives at msnbc. the very same news outlets that spent two years lying to but russia brings you a 29-year-old former bartender to teach you about science. hayes framed the terms at the outsouthwest show unless you do exactly what dr. ocasio-cortez says, the entire human race has only 12 years to live.

>> what we have to do to avoid the most catastrophic effects of the climate change is to cut emissions in half in 12 years. 12 years. that's the project we have been tasked with by the earth. has come a bold new policy proposal that might be the most controversial thing in american politics at the moment. you probably heard about it it's called the green new deal. some people call it a socialist monster. some people call it our only hope for survival here in the way of life that we hold dear. >> tucker: looks like ellen kind of a fusion show. did you hear what he said? our only hope for survival. holy smokes. that is terrifying. help us chris hayes. what is this life raft this humanity saving antidote that alone can prevent the death of our children? the good news is that alexandria ocasio-cortez has the cure for human exextinction. all we have to do is obey her and be very, very good

people. >> in my framework, in my beliefs that we not just have a wealthy society, but that we have a moral society. >> tucker: wait a second, you may be wondering. how does a member of congress who hasn't yet turned 30, someone who has never even raised children, get the right to lecture me about morality? well, that's the difference between you and alexandria ocasio-cortez, she is a highly decent person. listen to her explain how she doesn't resort to ad hominem attacks unlike her enemies who by the way are xenophobia white supremacist. >> actually talking about something substantive. we are not calling anyone names. people say tea party of the left. i find this phrase very interesting. this phrasing very interesting because the grounding of the tea party was xenophobia, the under pinnings of white supremacy. [applause] >> yeah, stop with the name-calling you racist

white supremacist xenophobia. so, it's official alexandria ocasio-cortez is a moron and nasty and more self-righteous than any televangelist who ever preached a sermon on cable access. she is not oppress you ha impre. how do people like her? not everything she says is wrong. listen to this clip from the same town hall. ocasio-cortez take as break from her idiotic climate to offer critique of the american economy. >> we have run away income inequality. we are at one of our most inequal points economically speaking in american history. we are dealing with a crisis of how our economy is even made up. our economy is increasingly financialized which means we are making profits off of interest, off leasing your phone, off of doing all of these things, but we aren't producing and we aren't

innovating in the way that we need to as an economy. >> tucker: okay. you hate to admit it, given the source, but try to ignore the way she said it maybe just print it out and read it a lot of it is basically true. no other party wants to talk about this. republicans are in fetal position they will do anything not to be unpopular. democrats want total and complete control over you and this country. neither party will say that our economy at its core is badly distorted. any economy, based on interest payments isn't really an economy, it's a scam. healthy countries innovate. they make things. think don't treat people like interchangeable widgets. they don't worship finance. in a healthy country, bankers aren't heroes. private equity is not the highest paid profession. nobody brags about working at a hedge fund. in america right now, we have the opposite, unfortunately. that's why alexandria ocasio-cortez has a constituency not because she is impressive.

she's not. but because she is one of the very few people who will say the obvious about growing corporate tyranny in this country. it doesn't mean she is right about anything else. taking power from the banks and giving it to ocasio-cortez as she proposes would not solve our problems. it will just put an even dumber person in charge. but she is right about the financialization part. mickey congregation joins us co. we don't know everything about the green new deal. name one proposal in the green new deal that you are aware of that would not increase the power of the democratic party. >> well, the democratic party is a very big party and right now i don't know if you heard there is a divide in the democratic party between those like scoorks who are not taking corporate money and oil money and those like the establishment, you know, you just mentioned joe biden perfect example taking a lot of money big hedge fund money and oil company. there is a lot of divide in

the democratic party. >> tucker: i know the party has all kinds of problem. we rejoice them every night. >> you guys are fine. >> tucker: it weesk effect us le the real things they plan to do. which one wouldn't increase the power of the democratic party? >> well, that's essentially the point. the democratic party was the big business party. now it's not going to be if more people like alexandria ocasio-cortez are auto elected. the green new deal is essentially saying is that the cost of climate change, which do we have to admit there are costs associated with it. are not being put on every day people. not being put on the people who are fleeing their homes whose homes have been hurt in storms whether it's hurricanes or tornadoes or they are dispersed from their communities. on the 1% who is extracting from these people and making money off of disaster. >> tucker: i'm going to ask you a third time. go ahead. i understand what the talking points are for the proposal. >> that's not a talking

point. that's nics. >> tucker: it's good for everybody. fair, equity tillable. makes us more moral i heard congresswoman bartender to explain all that. >> green economics. >> tucker: who gets more powerful. >> the people. >> tucker: no. whoever administers this plan will have control over a fifth of the u.s. economy our energy sector will be administering the largest building works project ever attempted will have control over every building in the continental united states, that's more power than anybody has ever had and invested in the hands of ocasio-cortez and the people who support her the politicians who do. maybe it's a power grab may be good but it's a power grab. >> who would you rather have controlling the future of our livelihood? a bunch of big banks who right now are determining whether or not they there is a jobs program, whether or not homes are built or infrastructure plan. they control most of congress. or would you rather have people, her campaign was people funded controlling their futures?

i vote for the people. >> every day americans. >> tucker: but if you believe that climate change is an existential problem for the planet, if it's going to end the planet in 12 years it's not science it's religion. we should drop that. >> 98% scientists agree. >> 98% of scientists do not agree. i have google, i checked it. there would be at the heart of the proposal something that's good for the planet but does not make ocasio-cortez more powerful. but everything in this proposal that i have read would make the democratic party more powerful. so you can see why we would be a little nervous about it, no? >> the democratic party is more nervous about alexandria ocasio-cortez and future aocs and presleys and ilhan omar's and rasheda tlaib and co ro khanna. than handing over the wheel to donald trump. ultimately when we are

talking about solving climate change. it's going to take elected more people funded politicians who represent the people and not the banks whether a democrat or republican. >> tucker: okay. but if you are using climate change as a pretext for taking over the most basic decisions in my life, how big my toilet can be, whether i can have a wood stove, cars i own and whether i can flag fly. basic decisions. shouldn't you know something about the science? shouldn't you know that there is not a consensus among scientists that the planet is going to end in 12 years. >> pretty much a consensus in 12 years it's irreversible. >> tucker: there is not anything as pretty much consensus. >> it is a scientific consensus that the majority of scientists believe and know and it's 98.9% that in 12 years it's irreversible in cities like new york. just in 10 years in cities like new york. >> tucker: is there a website 8.9% of scientists. >> www.google.com scientists

who understand climate change. >> tucker: agree with alexandria ocasio-cortez manipulate committee that allows them. >> in the association of scientists. >> tucker: okay, we will check that out. i want to thank you and the association of scientists 99% of whom agree with you. >> a few under water, tucker. we can wave under water. >> tucker: okay. thank you. the author of the book cool it, the skeptical environmental guide to global warming and he enjoys us tonight. mr. lom lomborg, thank you for coming on. i keep hearing from watching television in this country that many people are dying of climate change in the united states. is it a leading cause of death here? >> no, by no means and, look, we actually have pretty good data for how many people actually die from weather related disasters so climate related disasters and the truth is over the last 100 years it's dropped dramatically, every

year in the 1920s we estimate about half a million people died around the world. now, we quadrupled the population and, yet, the number has dropped like a stone. it's 95% reduced. we are now down to about 20,000 people that die every year. this is not because of global warming. this is simply because getting richer means you stop being in trouble when the weather is bad. >> tucker: so if the problem as measured by death rates is getting better, the threat is in decline, why the focus on it? why not a focus on cancer or diabetes or alzheimer's or suicide or drug od's? these are all rising. >> yes, absolutely. if you ask people around the world, the u.n. did that a couple years ago. they have asked 10 million people what do you want us to focus on they told us not surprisingly if you are really poor you worry about healthcare, food and education. those were the top things that came out. at the very end, number 16

of 16 priorities came global warming. not surprising, if you are poor. but if you are rich and well-meaning, this is one of the things that you start worrying about. and, look, global warming is a real problem but it's not anywhere the size of what most people let you believe. >> tucker: so, maybe it's an easy problem for the richest in our society to focus on because it doesn't really require anything of them. they can still fly private and have four houses and be deeply concerned about this problem. maybe that's why they have chosen it. >> well, i think it certainly gives a lot of people a sense of i'm really trying to do something good. oh, i have cut down. i'm no longer eating meat or something like that. the reality, of course, is if you really wanted to cut carbon emissions dramatically as many people talk about, you would have to experience a cost that would be much, much higher. if you take, for instance, the green new deal, bloomberg estimates and this is just one of many estimates that it would cost every year about

$2.1 trillion that's two thirds of the u.s. budget. so, no, we can't afford that even if you did, the impact would be fairly small in 100 years. it would be very small and inefficient way of helping people very little. >> tucker: okay. so assuming this is about helping people and i don't believe that it's clearly about grabbing power. let's pretend it's about helping people. in the name of helping them, you would probably wind up killing more than you would save because poverty does kill people. we know that. >> exactly. what you have to be very careful about is to say how do you go and help people, for instance in bangladesh and other places? well, a lot of people will say well, we need to cut carbon emissions so that they will have less of a problem in 100 years. of course, the reality is most people in bangladesh wants to get out of poverty. we should help them by having more free trade. having more opportunity. having more technology. those are the things that will make them much richer so that when 2100 comes

around they will not only be better able to tackle global warming but also all the other challenges alzheimer, cancer, all the other problems you were talking about. >> tucker: you are a man that talks about science fluent in the terms of science. how do you feel when you start hearing politicians discuss scientific issues with theological terms talking about the morality of your society and making claims to their own virtue? does that make you uncomfortable? >> well, i'm an economist, actually, so i look at all what the scientists are telling us. they are telling us global warming is a problem but it's also a moderate one. they tell us by the end of the century, global warming will cost somewhere between 2% and 4% global g.d.p. remember, by then, we will be about 10 times richer per person. so, about 1,000% richer and then we have to pay 2% to 4%. that's a problem. not the end of the world. when politicians go out and tell us we have got to go

morally do something that's really nice cutting off meat or not driving your car or something, in order to pacify this problem, they are simply talking against the better opportunity of actually dealing with this problem. because that's not going to happen. you can't tell people to do this. what you need to do is focus on technology. well, americans and everyone have had many problems in the past. we have not solved those problems by telling people could you please do with less? what we have done is through technology enabled people to do more with less. actually enabled people to be better off with technology. this is all about innovation. we need to innovate the price of green energy fossil fuels. the chinese and indians will -- >> tucker: that's not even on the take. thank you, i appreciate it? >> it should be. >> tucker: it should be. good to talk to you tonight.

thank you. joe biden is polling at the very top of the democratic presidential field, now that we know he has been a decade's okay snugler and hair sniffer can he that position? mark steyn joins us after the break. the latest innovation from xfinity

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joe biden. he was supposed to be the frontrunner for the 2020 nomination on the democratic side. polls show that he still is. but the former vice president has had a terrible weekend. he has faced backlash for controversial behavior, physical behavior around women. former nevada assembly woman lucy flores on friday accused biden of making her feel deeply uncomfortable by kissing her without being asked on the back of the head at a 2014 campaign event she wrote a piece about it amy accused biden of inappropriately touching her head in 2009. it's a head thing. flores says in her view biden should not run for president. >> i have answered this question many times in saying that personally i do not believe that he should run. >> hair sniffers have no place in the modern democratic party. the rules are changing fast but that's apparently where we are right now. in any place it is not a great look for joe biden

keep in mind he is the man who has over the years and many times recently bemoaned the fraying of america's moral fabric. >> that invisible moral fabric that holds up a society, a democracy is being shredded. >> there is an invisible moral fabric. >> there is an invisible moral fabric. >> there is an invisible moral fabric. >> this invisible moral fabric. >> there is an invisible moral fabric that holds up all societies. >> the invisible moral fabric. >> the moral fabric. >> the moral fabric of society is invisible but essential. >> stop this enormous erosion of the moral fabric that's at the hands of donald trump and the republicans. >> tucker: the moral fabric is fraying. the good news is the moral fabric softener smells amazing. so should biden stay out of the democratic race? well the other candidates can't quite make up their

mind on that question, watch. >> i believe lucy flores and joe biden needs to give an answer. >> should he not run as a result? >> that's for joe biden to decide. >> you know, i believe lucy flores. he is going to decide whether is he going to run or not. >> people raise issues. and they have to address them. and that's what he will have to do with the voters if he gets into the race. >> >> tucker: author and columnist mark steyn joins us tonight. so, mark, one of the many reasons i'm glad you are with us tonight is to help make up my mind on this question. on the one hand you think he is a warm person. i know him. he is warm. on the other hand, it's a lot of hair sniffing. this is the guy who the secret service said used to swim naked in front of them, including female agents. there is something a little creepy here. what should we think about this? >> well, you know, tucker, there is an invisible moral fabric that's fraying and it's holding up the back of that lady's dress which is

why joe biden has got his nose between her shoulder blades trying to keep it from fraying any further. you mentioned those secret service agents and i have heard a lot of people i respect like brit hume earlier today and brit was saying that he doesn't think there is anything at all sexual about that i think that can be true still not be a mitigating factor. you mentioned his habit of swimming naked in front of female secret service agents who are there to take a bullet for the vice president when he removes his swimming shorts and tosses them over their heads, that's not really the bullet they are supposed to be taking. there is something that is actually slightly presumptuous about this behavior in the way that it was when charlie rose used to do over at pbs. used to do dress rehearsals

undressed. it's a power thing. it's the presumptuousness. the democrats are completely morally indifferent on this unless it serves their ends. and what they want to do is take this guy out observe calling dads would to other candidates wanted to take him out the way other candidates took out jeb bush. low energy jeb. so you use what you have. ands that why all these democrat candidates have decided this is the bullet that takes out joe biden. i don't think he is going to run. because i don't think he wants to be defending a lot of this stuff between now and november next year. >> tucker: there is a lot of hair sniffing. my one concern obviously i'm enjoying this deeply i think joe biden is fraudulent in a lot of ways and shouldn't run. but, you don't want to live in a society that is even

colder and more atomized and more stand offish and suspicious than the one we are. in maybe the one good thing about joe biden is arm around the shoulder which he has done to me many times. you don't want to kill that entirely, do you? >> that's actually an interesting point, tucker, in fact, i was talking to someone just a couple of days ago who said he is actually a bit overly touchy feely with men, too you are right moralistically in this age of me too panic. if i were a male democratic candidate i'm not sure i would want to stand on a stage with female democrat candidates. i would essentially want to put a lot of physical space between us. >> tucker: that's right. >> the fact is this is an you utterly cynical mo. you use what you have. we're now two months from the equivalent point where trump came down that casey later at trump tower and disrupted the whole republic can process. they haven't got anyone that big.

all the kamala harris, all the cory bookers want to get rid of joe biden and get on with the real primary. >> tucker: that's what's happening. mark steyn, so smart. thank you. >> thanks a lot, tucker. >> tucker: one thing about the democratic party, of course, it's the party that believes survivors. so, why aren't they pouncing to denounce joe biden more than they already are? richard good stein is an attorney, former advisor bill and hillary clinton and he joins us tonight. so i, as can you tell, normally we go into these conversations you and i richard, have got a clear point of view. i really am of two mintdz on this. on one hand it's a lot of hair to sniff. a lot of hair to sniff. on the other hand, i think if the other candidates don't like biden maybe they should argue what he is saying and not just attack him sneakily in the way that they are? >> so, let me address both of your points. i mean, what it's not is

grabbing women by the genitals and then bragging about it it's not forcing somebody down on a bed and putting his hand over their mouth. it's not having an affair with a playboy bunny. >> tucker: it's not juanita broaddrick what you are saying? it's not paula jones? it's not being accused of rape or something like bill clinton? >> no, as biden proudly says, you are not running against the almighty. you are running against the alternative. this year the alternative in the election will be donald trump all of whom we talk about. >> tucker: hold on, wait, hold on, i'm actually more forgiving of joe biden than i think people in general i am flawed. all people are i'm more forgiving than the other democratic candidates i can't believe is he such a bad man. really? >> look. >> tucker: they are the ones who leak this stuff. >> if democrats run joe biden off because of this, they deserve to lose. because joe biden, look,

standards change. you know, the founding fathers had slaves. you know, barack obama was against same sex marriage and biden brought him around. and what biden did, you know, some years ago is not something that people -- this flores incidentally she was a bernie sanders person in 2016. my guess is she wants bernie sanders, not joe biden to be the democratic nominee. >> tucker: wait a second. hold on, i'm sorry. now you are confusing me more. i thought we believed all women. i have been taught that. >> nobody is saying. >> tucker: you believe all women even if they supported bernie sanders. so you are saying that her political views make her less believable? >> no. i'm saying even joe biden doesn't take issue with the credibility of what she is saying. he is saying his intent was not anything negative and if she took offense, he wants to listen to her. he is not so -- so it's not basically saying that she is not to be believed. it's saying if you believe her it's not something that should be his undoing. you are looking at the

totality. the voters should decide. not. >> tucker: this is sincere. hold on a sincere question. not attacking biden. there is a lot of hair-sniffing. i'm not making this up. what is that about? have you ever sniffed a stranger's hair? honestly? >> he is a handsy guy. >> tucker: that's not hands, that's a nose thing. that's an ole factory thing. what is that? >> i'm just saying he is a handsy guy. he likes to feel that -- sea touchy guy. so you know, when you have him on your show you can ask him what's that been about. >> tucker: by the way, i'm not going to judge him. you like to sniff people? totally fine. that's your -- >> i don't think it's a question of sniffing. i think it's a question of humanity. i think if we turn our back on that, shame on all of us. >> tucker: i love it richard, great to see you tonight. thank you. >> thanks. >> tucker: smollett has still not admitted to everyone else in america he staged a fake hate crime. instead is he telling us the

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competing rallies in chicago. matt finn was there he joins us tonight with an update. matt? >> tucker the jussie smollett tension came to a head today right here in downtown chicago outside of kim foxx's office. the police union protested against kim foxx saying she has a history of being anti-police, that she has exonerated known gang members and they're demanding that kim foxx resign after dropping the 16 charges against smollett. it was a clash of protest as kim fox supporters led by jesse jackson rallied against police. both sides got in each other's faces at one point police had to step in to calm things down. jesse jackson told fox news today that he think the chicago's superintendent investigation is, quote, very wrong and alleges kim fox is reforming the criminal justice system in chicago and the target of political attacks. kim foxx is still defending her office's actions writing in an op-ed in "the chicago tribune" since it seems politically expedient to question my motives and actions and those of my office let me state publicly

and clearly that i welcome an outside, nonpolitical review of how we handled this matter. the chicago police union fired back in a statement writing quote the fop believes the article barely merits a response. a grand jury returned a 16-count indictment. it is miss fawction's duty to prosecute this crime. she refused to do. so and today a former illinois department justice wrote she is going to personally petition the courts here in chicago to assign a special prosecutor to investigate kim foxx. tucker? >> tucker: matt finn, from chicago. thanks a lot for that well, even kim foxx acknowledges she believes jussie smollett is guilty of faking a hate crime but the actor will still not admit that. instead, his lawyer says the adoornd may have put on white face. >> he believed his attackers were white. he said they had masks on and gloves and he saw their eyes and he saw the skin

surrounding their eyes. was that a false statement? >> obviously you can disguise that and put makeup on it took me all of five minutes to google i was looking up the brothers and one of the first videos that showed up was one of the brothers in white face doing a jokester monologue with white makeup on. it's not that implausible. >> tucker: not implausible. is it implausible? lori smith is an attorney representing those brothers and she joins us tonight. gloria, thanks very much for coming on. you heard that suggestion that your clients, without the knowledge of jussie smollett, attacked him while wearing white faced makeup. did they? [laughter] >> it's preposterous on top of more ridiculousness for her to come out and say that you know what? of course anything is possible in that world. but, probable? no. >> tucker: so do your clients, these brothers, concede that they were part of this hoax? >> absolutely. they have cooperated, tucker, from day one. i mean, their main focus was

always to not be part of a fraud. and, you know, tucker, if you look at the very little media that they have done and the releases that we have made, they have apologized for their role and they feel tremendously regretful for their participation in this. >> tucker: so were they employed by -- >> -- we are waiting on that -- i'm sorry, go ahead. >> tucker: i want to understand. were they employed by smollett, i read that one of them had worked for the show, had worked for his show and they had worked for him in some capacity; is that correct? >> that's correct. remember, that there was a friendship. they had met on sets. they had known each other for, you know, not more than a year. so, they really put their trust in someone who they thought was their friend. someone who had influence, someone who could, you know, make a game change for them in their career. >> tucker: yes. >> that's what this is

really about. and we are seeing that in the news on various different fronts. people putting their trust in the wrong person and the worst of hollywood. >> tucker: so they follow his lead, they take money from him in order to pull off this fake hoax. they get caught, so does smollett, he blames them for it. and lies about it and then beats all the charges. what do they make of that? >> here's the thing about the a do you. owe sudo youosundairo family. they wanted to make sure they were not part of that fraud. their value system came out while they were in custody

and they went through a relation process that what jussie wanted to do was tear people apart more, not bring them together. and one of the first statements we released actually we said that that they were not homophobic. they were not racist. and that they were not anti-trump. >> what do they think the motive for this was? have there have ban bunch of explanations why do they think smollett did this? >> you know, and i hate to not answer a question on your show, tucker, truthfully, the motives and their intentions, their feelings, things that go to those things i think will be better said from them. and when the time is right, they will come out and say their story. it's just not the right time. >> tucker: of course they are welcome here any time it goes without saying. finally, do they face any legal jeopardy at all? are they done with this process? >> they are done. there has been a lot of questions about well, now are they going to get investigated? are they looking at

co-conspiracy charges? you can't be a co-conspirator to something that is not illegal. so, tucker, for example, if i asked you to go out to the street and put a noose around my neck which i would never ask you to do that. >> tucker: thank you. >> if i had, that's not illegal. that's just not illegal but calling the police and saying that somebody did, that is illegal my clients didn't do anything illegal. >> white face to beat up boss without his knowledge. thanks for clarifying that. >> absolutely. >> thank you for laughing. because it's worth laughing at. good to see you. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: well, many top democrats have staked out amazingly in the past couple of months the democratic party is the party of infanticide. most americans are not for that the question is do more americans want abortion? more abortion or less abortion? simple question. straightforward answer after the break. ♪ ♪

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>> tucker: have you heard a lot recently about how ilhan omar doesn't like israel and that's definitely true. she does not like israel. have you heard next to nothing but who omar does not like this country. she likes more than israel. it doesn't bother anything anybody. it should. this is what omar told vogue arabia she described living in the united states as quote an every day assault. america is so racist and hateful, she says, that she feels, quote: threatened, demonized and vilified every day. it's difficult for her to even go to work. in many ways things were easier growing up in refugee camp in kenya she says quote when you are a kid and raised all black all muslim

environment nobody really talk to us about your identity. you just are. there is freedom in knowing that you are accepted as your full self, unquote. that freedom omar says doesn't exist in america. so pause and think about that for a second. omar's country collapsed as a child. she lived for years in kenya in refugee camp. she may have died there without outside help. but help came from where? from here, america. and this country didn't just wick ilhan omar to america, we paid to relocate her family and many others from a foreign continent purely for the sake of being good people for al truism. because no country in history has been as generous as we are. to places we have no ties to and no obligation we have been kind anyway because that's who we are. despite her humble and foreign birth, omar has been elected to our national law-making body. good for her. how does she repay her adopted country the one that literally saved her life

attacks it as hateful and racist and for that she is applauded by out democratic party because they view this party as hateful and racist, too. the more ilhan omar's america has they believe the better. but is that what is best for america? here is another suggestion we should think about. maybe our immigration system should prioritize people who actually like this country and are grateful to be here. why wouldn't we do that? well, in just a few months, the democratic party has become way more radical on abortion than any party on earth. new york has legalized abortion up until the moment of birth. literally the moment. in virginia the governor there ralph norm defended infanticide and that was barely a scandal. democrats are far more upset about his face paint 30 years ago. is that in step with what america wants? the movie "unplanned," a pro-life movie did very well at the box office this past weekend. far above expectations despite having its twitter account briefly shut down with no explanation. of course you know what the explanation is the

commonwealth of kentucky the state legislature there just banned abortion conducted based on a child's race,sex or disability that law was immediately challenged by the aclu which no longer has anything to do with civil liberties. we thought it was a fan sisating step and grateful to talk to matt bevin. thanks a lot for joining us tonight. >> great to be with you here, tucker. >> tucker: you wouldn't think you would need a bill like that because you wouldn't think someone would do something that horrifying. >> sadly they do. this is a non-kne non-eugene nis bill. kill on gender. aligning specific whether i a lot of federal statutes and whether it's the ada or other things literally prevent defended by the aclu in people who are outside the womb but they felt that was too much to expect of a child who has not been delivered. it is reprehensible. >> tucker: they are against defending a child, a fetus

as they call it on the basis of race? really? okay to have a race selected abortion. >> can you kill a child on their estimation they think it's a step too far to say you should not kill a child based on its race or its gender or some perceived disability it is, to your point, this guild has come off the lily of it being rare and safe and legal. they don't care about that anymore. it never was intended to be rare. it is now literally when and however somebody would want to see this happen. it's reprehensible to me that you have the aclu not even trying to serve its past defense of civic liberties and literally attacking a bill that is on its face something that we should applaud. >> tucker: sex selective abortions are very widespread across the world. that's one of the reasons india and china have so many more boys than girls, rather. it targets girls. is there any support for sex selective abortion in this country? have you seen the polling? like 40% of the population

has to have sex selection abortion? >> sadly it is done. to what degree it is supported by the general populist i think people would be offended by this and for good reason. i applaud we have legislators in kentucky leading the charge on this boldly. we have young senator matt calf lynn who sponsored a bill relate to the heart beat six weeks or whenever a heart beat is detected that abortion beyond that could not be performed in kentucky. that also was immediately challenged. melinda was the one who sponsored this bill that you are talking about. this non-eugene nics bill. >> did you get any democrats to support it. >> they were. in america, increasingly, the more we know about medicine, the more we know about science. the more we know about what is happening inside of the womb, it is evident that that is a human being. that child is not going to be born and come out as a chicken or something. this is a human being. nobody is under the impression it's anything other than that and the more we look with technology, the more we know this to be

true. >> tucker: planned parenthood as a matter of policy supports sex selective abortion. is it weird to get lectures from people who align with planned parenthood. >> think about the history of planned parenthood, margaret sanger the founder of planned parenthood was one of the greatest apologists for eugene nics which believed that removing unfavorable people, people that were unpleasant, people that would water down the gene pool of humanity. people immigrants, people who were of color. people who were poor. people that were disabled, she felt that these one desirable character traits and that they needed to be removed from the human gene pool. she was the founder of planned parenthood. so the idea that 100 years later they still give awards in her name and that they are still practicing the very same thing should not be shocking. >> tucker: they are. that's why they put the planned parenthood clinics in the inner city. they still feel that way. >> targeting. >> tucker: governor bevin, we are thankful to have you tonight. thank you for that racial segregation amazingly one of

the worst things this country ever did is coming back courtesy of the left. what do past victims of segregation think of that? after the break. ♪ ♪ sunlight... longer hours... eyes today are stressed. but ocuvite has vital nutrients... ...to help protect them. ocuvite. eye nutrition for today.

>> for almost 100 years, strict racial segregation ran in this country and a stain in this country. now it's making a comeback in

some places where the left is dominant. primarily college campuses. radicals are endorsing segregated housing, graduation. young white liberals say it's needed to fix racism. what do african americans think? we investigated that in new york. >> would you support segregated housing for black people? >> a lot of schools have, where colors live together. >> blacks live separately? >> yeah. >> you're cool with that? >> yeah. >> comes with the school. we're going to offer blacks separate housing. >> yeah. i'd support it. why not? it wouldn't change anything for me. if they would be happy -- >> do you support black students having a separate graduation?

>> if that's what they wanted. >> you'd be okay with that? >> yes. >> separate graduation? >> yeah. i would. >> absolutely. >> several blocks away, the local black community, the opinions were unanimous. >> why are we going back in time? >> that's segregation. we should graduate together. >> that is segregation. shouldn't be happening. >> it's terrible separating people by race. >> you think it's almost racist to do that? >> i would think. >> the greatest effort. what a brilliant idea. did you -- thanks for joining us. was that pretty much the universal reaction from african americans you spoke to? >> i didn't find a single person thought it was a good idea. they were smacked. some of them were like i don't

know what you're talking about. >> did you tell them that it's for your own good? >> yeah. the white man is telling you what is good for you, this is so dangerous. >> i agree. >> we awaken this notion of segregation that we've been fighting for generations but focusing on the politics of racial identity. they asked harvard about their policy there. they said they want to give something for our marginalized students. i'm thinking to myself -- anyplace on planet earth, a black personal feels the least marginalized in all of earth on a university campus. if marginalization is a yard stick to segregate people, con she -- conservatives should have. >> and if you ask any normal

person like is this -- this or any other thing, can your change your sex by tapping your shoes together? no. it's transparently dumb. most people know that, i think. >> it's totally insane. i did find a group of people that did agree with us. the end of the video, i found a group that is so woke, they've been woke for generations. i spoke with the head of the kkk in north carolina. he loves the idea. his wife was so happy she was crying. she was thrilled what she's people are doing to the black students. so there you go. we found a group that enjoys it. >> it's like the scene at the animal farm where the pigs and the men are eating from one eat. talking about betraying your revolution. unbelievable. smart and interesting and deep. thanks. >> my pleasure. >> we're out of time. amazingly, i don't know where the hour went. back tomorrow at 8:00 p.m. the show that is the sworn enemy of lying smugness and group

think, all of which are in over abundance. our good friend, one of our favorites, sean hannity is in new york city to host a tv show right now. >> sean: it's not a surprise anymore. let me straighten my tie up. great show, tucker. good to see you. welcome to "hannity." just breaking as we speak tonight, well, we call him creepy and crazy uncle joe biden for a reason. now he's facing a second accusation of inappropriate touching. a rough week for the democratic party. it's only monday. alexandria ocasio-cortez embarrassing herself again. bernie sanders can't answer a simple question about his own policies. you just heard the breaking news. creepy crazy uncle joe