>> three-hour tour, how did that go for you? still onboard the minnow, aren't we? >> that was thursday, we'll see you back here tomorrow morning. >> see you then. >> all right, "outnumbered" starts right now. >> fox news alert, three more women accusing former vice president joe biden of misconduct, bringing total number to seven. allegations breaking short time after joe biden respond to growing controversy. this is "outnumbered," i'm melissa frances here today. mcdowell, contributor katie pavlich, fox news headline 24/7 reporter carley shimkus and joining us on the couch, my favorite democrat, democrat and former communications director for former senator harry reid, jon summers, one of my favorite guys, not even in the democratic category. >> jon: thank you very much.

what about you guys? >> yeah, we like you, we like your socks. >> jon: thank you. that mingos today. >> former vice president joe biden trying to get in front of the latest accusers coming forward after potential 2020 candidate posted online video in which he does not apologize for his alleged actions, but vows to change his ways. >> joe biden: social norms have began to change and boundary of personal space have been reset and i get it. i get it. i hear what they're saying. i understand it. i'll be much more mindful, that is my responsibility, my responsibility and i'll meet it. but i'll always believe covering quite frankly life for that matter is about connecting, about connecting with people. that won't change, but i will be

mindful and respectful of people's personal space. >> hours after biden released the video, three additional came forward saying his video response is not enough. among them, former obama intern who told the "washington post" in 2013, biden pressed his forehead to her and told her she was a pretty girl, an experience that shocked and embarrassed her and made her feel uncomfortable. another biden accuser, d.j. hill says he inappropriately touched her at 2012 fundraiser. she responded to biden's video with shannon. watch this. >> i would like to think that perhaps this is a time of reali realization and self-awareness for mr. biden. you know, time will tell. but i think that no one should define another person's

boundaries period. so i will be waiting to see from mr. biden, as well as other candidates, it is one thing to say it, it is another thing to show actions that you are moving toward what you say this self-realization is about. >> also yesterday, biden fellow delaware democrat defending the response. >> i was glad to see a very strong, clear, forceful statement by former vice president biden this afternoon. i think he gets it. it is important he made a clear statement today, he understands social standards have changed and perhaps he will be more thoughtful about whether or not to continue to be the person he has been, someone open-hearted and willing to engage with others and he'll be more cautious about other people's space. >> oh, boy, jon, i'm trying to think of who recently made a successful apology, it seems like no one is ever happy with

apology or response when these things come out. at the same time, you know, you learn the way you make amends by saying something like, i had no idea i was making these people uncomfortable. i'm sor -- so sorry, wasn't my intention. i made you uncomfortable, i am sorry. what would you have advised? >> jon: no matter what, people will criticize how he comes out with this if you are prone to not liking him or democrats. >> or running against him. >> jon: or running against him. he was sincere in the video, he spoke from the heart. for him, it is about connection and i should be clear, i'm not with any presidential candidate at this point. i've met him many times and he is all about that connection. when you are with him, he actually sees you. he's not looking to who will talk next. >> did he hug you

inappropriately? >> jon: not that i can remember. i do think if i can make one more point. it is important to remember what this isn't. these are not women coming out alleging harassment or assault. these are people saying he violated my space. >> that is harassment. >> intern getting harassed when working in the white house as an intern and the vice president of the united states is holding her face and saying you are a pretty girl, that is definition of sexual harassment in the work place. >> jon: where is outrage as relates to the president who comes out and brags. >> when democrats pivot back to you, anybody's behavior is excusable because president trump is the president, you lose the audience here. you don't get to excuse someone's bad behavior by pointing to someone else's bad behavior, the point is, voters knew about president trump's behavior and voted him into office anyway. this is joe biden trying to make this right so he can run, too.

>> who sets the bar for bad behavior. bill clinton and bad behavior, sexual harassment, we won't go there today. to traesz -- address the video with joe biden, first of all, he says new time and age. i don't buy it. they were starting sexual harassment and personal space seminars in the 1980s. we've been through them for years. there is problems in the private sector, in hollywood and politics, it has not manifested the same way as in america for the past three decades. i understand why he doesn't apologize, i don't like necessarily joe biden and his policies and the way he's handled this situation and his touchy, creepy hand movements, but i take apology with grace and say, you are forgiven, let's move on. as we've seen, when people apologize, it is never good enough, we look through a political lens and a lot of women making accusations are

working for other campaigns. >> true. >> or supported other candidates. it is fair to look at the motives and fair to say, why would he apologize when nobody is going to accept it with grace and forgiveness in the political situation that we're in. >> i think it was you on this very sofa who said after he refevered to vice president mike pence as decent man and he backtracked the comments that can't be the joe biden who wants to win the nomination and constantly apologizing for everything from voting for reform to iraq war to words he used to describe long-time colleagues of his. i spoke to a big democrat who still thinks vice president biden will declare presidency after easter and he will run, you know, jump in head first, but what has happened, they were troubled by the response to these allegations, the slow communication, the slow

response, the overall social media strategy. this first allegation from the former bernie sanders supporter came out on friday and we got the video yesterday. >> poor quality, it shows the campaign is kind of -- >> also this. bill russo, doing communication for joe biden has 3000 twitter followers. >> and republicans. >> right, smith running for pete budadich, and the husband dominating social media 180,000 twitter followers. the fact almost no presence by joe biden on social media at this point. >> let me show you, speaking about how should you apologize and are you being weak, this is what good afternoon huckabee said on the couch on monday, listen to this and carley, you can respond. >> mike huckabee: joe biden made the mistake not pushing back

hard, that statement he made supposedly, he didn't make that. ad agents, that was it and it was lousy. he should have pushed back and said, i hug women, i sometimes put my arms on them, i do it in public, nobody thinks i'm a sexual predator, anyone who thinks i am is totally wrong. >> kind of what he did. >> yeah, i think that joe biden's response was perfectly appropriate to this. somebody is going to criticize whatever he does at this point. i do think we run the risk of when we are knit-picking a hug that may have been too long, what else will that lead to? but from a political standpoint, joe biden is facing an uphill battle. he's a white man accused of inappropriate touching, that is not good. he's got the name recognition, he's still surrounded familiar memories with president obama, but he's going to dagen, have to

apologize, anita hill saying him being a white man flip-flopping on abortion. if he keeps apologizing, he will look like one. >> he ought to know, the other old white dude who wants democratic nomination, the bernie broes and babes have knives out and they will eat you alive. >> i find it very telling president obama has not come out and backed up vice president joe biden. i know he doesn't want to endorse anybody in the primary because he likes to vote present on things as he did in the senate. for him not to make a statement of character on behalf of joe biden, who he worked with for eight years in the white house. it is telling. >> he's trying to stay out of the fray. >> that is what we heard. can we say this as women? if somebody hugs up on you and

makes you feel uncomfortable, somebody that didn't work here wanted to give me a neck massage. i said, buddy, throw that truck in reverse and back it up. >> that does not surprise me from you. >> can all women not say that? somebody tugging on your earlobe or whatever crazy thing, get away from me. >> also the media fire storm for days on end because some allegations aren't as serious as -- >> i think he deserves a lot of it. >> the hair, holding somebody for a beat too long is different than sexual misconduct. >> each situation is different and has to be judged on its own merit, you can't generalize when it comes to sexual harassment. >> tonight fox news will host a town hall with schultz, former starbuck's c.e.o. and potential presidential candidate. martha maccallum and bret baier will talk about the issues he

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>> this fox news alert. the justice department responding to a reported split between members of robert mueller's special counsel team and attorney general william barr. the "new york times" reporting some special counsel team members are taking issue with barr's four-page summary of the mueller report. the times reporting this "some of robert mueller's investigators have told associates barr failed to adequately portray the findings of their inquiry and they were more troubling for president trump than barr indicated. according to government officials and others familiar with simmering frustration. the "washington post" reporting mueller's investigators say the evidence on obstruction was alarming and significant. trump attorney rudy giuliani says this proves what they had long argued about mueller's team.

>> they are sneaky unethical leakers. they hate the president of the united states and i can't tell you how much false information they leaked during the course of the investigation. how many people are going to get indicted that didn't get indicted? how many block busters, papadopoulos to cohen, who turned out to be a serial liar, how can you have kvdz in this? >> adam schiff says this shows why the report must be made public. >> we have bill barr's word for this, that comes from someone who was picked for his host ility to the obstruction case. it comes back to the fact we need transparency, let the american people judge whether what mr. barr did was fair or

unfair, the only way that can happen, if they make this report public. >> just the last hour, the justice department releasing a statement pushing back on reported criticism of attorney general bill barr writing this. barr provided initial findingsing with understanding report itself would be released after redaction process and does not believe the report should be released in piecemeal fashion. some people in the reporting were upset that more material from their kind of summaries, were not included in this letter that bill barr wrote with the help of rod rosenstein. when you talk about the summaries, it is justice department determined the summaries contained sensitive information, material and information related to current federal information that needs to remain confidential. shut up and wait for the doggone

report to come out. >> associates are saying. here we are with another russia story without direct quoting eanonymous sourcing. this is how we got in the situation with misinformation surrounding this investigation for the past two years. first thing. the second thing is nobody, not president trump, not department of justice under william barr are saying the report will not be released. they have said at the white house and d.o.j. it will be released, but without confidential grand jury information which is something protected because we believe in due process in this country. further, i said this yesterday, the mueller team is working with bill barr and rod rosenstein, who has come under a lot of fire for being anti-trump to make redactions. not like bill barr is doing this in a rogue fashion, they are

working with a special counsel to do this. they will release this and bill barr will go to capitol hill in front of senate and house and have two open public hearings, which i'm sure will last all day, get questions about what they redacted and didn't redact. the idea nobody wants transparency is absurd. >> jon, i wrote this down, to your point, why would the attorney general downplay the findings in the letter knowing full well most of this report will be released, knowing he would be called in front of congress to testify about it after its released and if he mischaracterized anything truly, bob mueller, his friend of 30 years, would surely speak up. >> jon: it is interesting, i agree with everything katie said. we don't always take the trump administration at their word. we will see this entire report.

the biggest concern we have right now, it may be slightly false one, people are concerned people's positions are hardening as a result of this book report that attorney general barr wrote. he wrote four pages based off 400 pages. i've written high school book reports longer than that. >> you thi cleared, but on which side? >> jon: on both sides. right? they are worried about hardening their appearance or views when the reality is we all know that no one's views have changed as a result of that. but we need to get the whole report and i think you are seeing a lot of work, particularly on the democratic side. katie is like, republicans also want a release, republicans and democrats alike want the entire report out. we have to make sure it is the entire report and that unflattering pieces aren't redacted under the guise of -- >> sure, but not confidential.

>> unflattering stuff should not be redacted for the same of pr, should not be redacted. confidential information to protect people's privacy and constitutional rights should be redacted. >> grand jury testimony can't be released by law, that is the law in this country. >> to your point, you got to look at why would bill barr, look at this from his perspective, why would he lie and cover something for the president? he was a successful lawyer working in washington, d.c. when he was tapped to become the attorney general. he doesn't owe the president anything. he's not going to risk his reputation to cover for him. he is working with bill barr or with robert mueller currently to release this report. i feel like this guy has been given such a bad shake with everybody just breathing down his neck to get the report out, it will come out and all the answers will be cleared up. >> it is interesting, though, democrats were horrified all of hillary clinton's dirty business

was shared from the report even though they didn't find enough to get her in trouble. they felt that should be kept to the side, you don't talk about evidence when someone wasn't convicted or brought up. so -- >> we got to go. i had something i was going to read, can't get to it. i will tweet it. homeland security secretary kirstjen nielson set to visit southern border in arizona after warning of category 5 crisis migrant surge overwhelming border patrol agents. we'll monitor her visit. house democrats launching what politico describes as assault of president trump, demanding years of his tax return and the full mueller report. his attorney is firing back. is this a turning point in democrat's battle with president trump? we debate it next. >> politicians in congress get their hands on people's tax returns and they are democrats and go after republican returns,

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very well along on the deal, it is complex deal, very big deal, one of the biggest deals ever made, maybe the biggest deal ever made. it will be a great deal for farmers. technology intellectual property theft, everything is covered, not a thing is not covered. he could have made it a quickie, we're in a good position, our economy is way up. china is not way up. and we're trying to make a good deal or will not make a deal at all. it looks like the deal is moving along nicely. i think you will meet me and say hello to the media and are a little while sometime after 2:00. thank you, everybody. a lot of good things are happening with mexico. mexico understands that we're going to close the border or tear up the -- one or the other.

probably start with tariffs, mexico has strongest immigration laws anywhere in the world. they don't have courts like we do. we have a stupid system of courts, crazeiest thing in the world, could be the only country that has it. you put a foot on the property, foot into the united states, congratulations, get perry mason to represent you, you end up with a court case. they release you and you come back four or five years later, but nobody comes back, 2% come back. not so smart ones come back, the most ridiculous system anyone has ever seen and we have catch-and-release and chain migration, somebody comes in and bring the family, bring them all year, grandparents, brothers, sisters, cousins, craziest thing put in by democrats. democrats are going to straighten it out. i predicted this, i hate to see it. i can say, i was right.

i told everybody, you have a national emergency at our border and nobody even talks about drugs. the drugs that are flowing in. so for the last four days you actually have covered it to a minor extent, mexico has been capturing people and bringing them back to their countries at their southern border. they've been taking people under their very powerful laws, they have the right to do it, and bringing them back to where they came from. that is about three days now, i guess, since frankly since they heard i was going to close the border. before i close the border, mexico and we love mexico, we love the country of mexico. we have two problems. we have the fact they allow people to pour into our country, we have to stop them. border control has been incredible, ice, law enforcement incredible. the other problem is drugs. massive, large, most of the

drugs, much of the drugs coming into our country come through the southern border in alla different ways, much of it, we don't have walls, the wall is under construction, by the way, large sections. we'll be meeting on friday at a piece of the wall completed, a big piece. a lot is being built now. a lot is being signed up now by different contractors, it is moving along very nicely. we need the wall. we need lots of other things. we need help from mexico f. mexico doesn't give the help, that is okay, we'll tariff their cars coming into the united states. mexico is big source of drugs, unfortunately, now we have china sending fentanyl to mexico to be delivered to the united states. it is not acceptable. so the second aspect of it, which you haven't heard before, is that if the drugs don't stop,

mexico can stop them if they want, we will tariff the cars, if that doesn't work, we'll close the border. i think that will work, massive numbers of dollars. so if we don't see people apprehended and brought back to their countries, we see massive caravans coming up to our country through mexico, coming through mexico, like nothing. buses are even given to them. last three days it hasn't happened since i said we're closing the border. the only thing frankly better, but less drastic than closing the border, tariff the cars coming in. i will do it. you know i will do it, i don't play games, i'll do it. we're doing it to stop people. we'll give them a one-year warning and if the drugs don't stop or largely stop, we'll put tariffs on mexico and products, in particular cars, the whole ball game is cars, it is the big

ball game with many countries, it's cars. if that doesn't stop the drugs, we close the border because mexico last year and for many years, like china, except china numbers are even bigger. and i don't blame china and i don't blame mexico if they can get away with it. i blame the people that used to sit in this seat, they should have done something about it, not just president obama, many presidents should have done something about it. if mexico doesn't do what they can do very easily, apprehend these people coming in, they could do it much more humane fashion. why should they walk up 2000 miles and then be brought back? they can stop them at their southern border when they come into mexico. they have unbelievable immigration laws, the most powerful in the world, as good as you can have. they are going to do it.

if they don't, we will tax cars. if that doesn't work, we'll close the borders. but we're going to do something having to do with tariffs on drugs. not only are hundreds of thousands of lives a year being ruined in our country, but numbers of people are dying that you wouldn't believe. the we'll lose one military personnel and it is front-page story. yet we have 100,000 people, people don't even know the number, they say 77,000, they say 72,000. any number they give, guarantee to raise it. if the drugs don't stop, we'll put tariffs on it. it costs our country $500 million through southern border. $500 million. so we will put tariffs on if they don't apprehend and ultimately give period of time, but if in a year from now, drugs

continue to pour in, we're going to put tariffs on you. u.s. mca, it is all done, they'll have to live with it. okay. they'll have to live with it. i'm not trying to be unfair, they'll have to live with it. the u.s. embassy is a great deal for everybody, this is more important than the u.s. mca, they will have to live with it. thank you very much. thank you. thank you very much. thank you. thank you. tell you one thing, it's a great deal, they don't pass it, purely political. the u.s. mca, everybody wants it passed. whatever they want to do is okay with me. thank you. [everyone speaking at once] >> come on, guys. >> ending from the cabinet room

on the u.s. mca, the trade agreement which replaced nafta and talking about trade, he said he would say something about the mueller report. he did not. that was erroneous report we got before we saw the tape. the main theme and i'll bring to the couch, jon, it is interesting, if you start to think about how he's framing his presidency, vis-a-vis, 2020 re-election, there is focus on being safety and security president, whether the war on drugs, whether it is immigration, whether it is national security, that is one of the main tenants and main themes and only time willing to put economics aside and the freedom for business aside is idea of wait, the only thing more important than money is security. what do you think? >> jon: yeah, i think that is right. most agree we need stronger, more secure borders. we need to have -- need to address immigration reform in comprehensive way.

i think it is interesting that he's first going to give them a year, give mexico a year. if they don't comply, don't enforce laws he wants them to have the way he would enforce them himself -- >> drugs pouring in. >> jon: taxes on american consumers. >> again, that will be the democrat response, katie, like he's going to impose taxes on american consumers. he's saying we have a great trade agreement, the only thing that will screw it up, you look the other way and let drugs pour over the border, i will tariff the car and hurt your economy. >> they have, the mexican government looks the other way all the time from local to federal government in mexico when it comes to the drug trade. they are hand in hand in that operation a lot of times there is a reason why drugs come through like arizona and don't go through places like el paso and texas. different sectors are protected by the mexican government so

cartels continue to run drugs. i think what he said about the new u.s. mca, replacement for nafta, if it doesn't pass, it is all political. that is true because chuck schumer wanted to redo nafta, nancy pelosi is on record saying it. >> threatening tariff on automobile imports for the reason it steps all over the trade agreement his administration, although not ratified yet, it steps all over the trade agreement they negotiated. by the way, how many mexican car makers do you know? there aren't any. it is general motors, an american company, that he's talking about. >> right, he's saying everybody will pay the price if we don't stop this drug flow into the country. >> general motors more than anybody. >> we'll be right back. veterans buy a home without paying one dollar out of pocket for closing costs.

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>> fox news alert. new reaction as house democrats

take investigation to president trump to new level launching what politico calls investigative assault on the president over span of eight hours yesterday, including five years of president trump's tax returns, a decade's worth of financial records, pending subpoena for the full mueller report and trump's inaugural committee documents. carle, you didn't get in on the last one. how are they going to read all th that? >> if was a big day for democrats and listen, it is kind of funny how we're now talking about tax returns, it is no surprise, the mueller investigation is over, we're pivoting to tax returns, that is probably going to wind up in court, according to judge napolitano, he says that is why he's not releasing tax returns, that is not a good enough reason to not release them. is this really any surprise that

we are going down and checking all the boxes with democrats once again attacking president trump? i know a lot of his issues are self-made, he's hired a lot of bad people, sometimes his behavior is not the best, but he has great reason to say he's constantly under attack when you look at something like this. >> i wonder if his tax returns will be as disark pointing as the mueller report. >> the democrats are trying to embarrass president trump. >> hard to embarrass him, though. it is unflappable. >> whatever. >> not as rich as he says he is, he didn't give to charity, he took egregious tax deductions, maybe that is part of the path they are trying to use. i said this all along, nancy pelosi removed the word impeachment out of the lex can of the liberals in washington and they'll focus on the process. >> presidents don't need to release th tax returns or do they? >> president trump is under

mandatory audit. as president this is procedural manual and this mandatory audit is legal basis for this request and i think it is going to be a court fight over this. historically they have gotten tax returns. >> jon: we wouldn't be here if president trump had kept his word, back to my earlier point. forgive us if we don't take him at his word every time he says something. he promised to release his tax returns and hasn't done it. >> he did? i don't remember that. >> on the campaign trail he did >> jon: there are real questions that need to be considered, concerns about financial ties to other countries, why does he have a cozy relationship or -- >> if he got checks from abu dhabi or took money from russia when he was there. we want to look at his tax return. was that him? >> no, that was the clintons.

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>> melissa: leading hostage advocacy group caving to pressure from trump administration critics and withdrawing freedom award for secretary of state mike pompeo. and disinviting him from the awards banquet. here is invitation showing the intention to give the secretary of state the award. according to washington examiner, james w. foley organization threatened to boycott if mike pompeo was recognized. the media pressure is cynical, how sad that based politics and patread creep into this sphere of our national activity. i will also add pompeo expressed concern the guests would not treat him with respect and he would not show up for this award. we agree on this, james foley was kidnapped and his parents

worked hard with the trump administration to bring hostages back home. yet they want to give mike pompeo an award, they are boycotting by the media. >> jon: by the media and supporters, as well. >> media sponsors paying to be there. >> jon: we are on the same page. it is wrong, embarrassment to everyone. it is embarrassment to him, they shouldn't put him m that position, it is embarrassment to supporters. it speaks to poor organizational skills on their part. there had to be discussion internally, someone would have to raise the white flag, this might be a problem. someone probably made the decision, let's do it anyway. it got tough, they decided to back down, that is wrong. i work with nonprofit organizations all the time, particularly progressive ones. i remind them, love or hate this administration, if you want to advance your cause, particularly if you need government grants or you need to influence policy,

you have to be willing to work with your friends and people you consider your enemies. >> i want to get in here and say the foley foundation was bullied into pulling this invitation. they were bullied by media partners, including cnn, emcee for the event saying they had concerns about pompeo receiving the award. it is not like they had much choice. they were trying to raise money for their foundation, melissa, to raise money to bring american hostages home and protect journalists in the field. >> i feel like right now and we run into this a lot in the community and doing other things. this is a time you can either stand up and cause more division or you can take an opportunity like this to reach across the aisle to the other side and say look, we may not agree on a bunch of things, we agree on the importance of this. >> and criminal justice reform. >> and the decriminalization of

homosexuality around the world, which rick richard grenell pushed. >> you look big sxer set example. you can stand up and say i disagree about this, this and this, but today we are standing together to do this. it was an opportunity to do something like that. >> carley, quickly. james foley's mother making round with media and you can't help, but respect her and see the pain she's been through. spot on when you said she's been bullied into this. that is horrible. some things shouldn't be partisan. >> mike pompeo will be on tomorrow. >> we apologize to the foley family for that kind of behavior and having to deal with that situation. more in just a moment. what does help for heart failure look like?

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>> it is always friday eve. back tomorrow, everybody. here noon eastern on "outnumbered," melissa frances is in for harris, take it away, melissa. >> melissa: fox news alert, the president issuing new threat to mexico if they fail to stop the influx of migrants crossing the border. go "outnumbered overtime," melissa frances in for harris faulkner. right now dhs secretary kirstjen nielson is set to visit the yuma border patrol station in arizona amid president trump's thet to close large portions of the border to deal with influx of migrants. the president, who heads to the border tomorrow, had this warning for mexico just minutes ago. >> pres. trump: if mexico doesn't give the help, that is okay, we're going to tariff their cars. if the drugs don't stop, mexico can stop them if they want, we will tariff the cars. if that doesn't work, we will close the border.