you are arm and midnight hero. best of luck to you and rocky. don't miss the special report. the most trusted, you spent the evening with us, good night fro washington. ♪ >> welcome to tucker carlson tonight. homeland secretary kiersten nilsen submitted her resignatio ofen the week in. she always seemed like a nice person when we had her on the show last week and she was nice but it's possible she was neve really a good fit for the job that she had. it always seem better suited fo a jeb bush administration. total deportations were lower than under barack obama. the border itself on from troubled too chaotic to completely out of control. now more than 100,000 illegal arrival showing up from mexico every month.

she didn't single-handedly caus for the spreadsheet input for open borders and can believe in open borders, she seemed to believe in the law. even that was too much for the left. she was denounced as an extremist and chased out of restaurants. today issue that the white house , making her some like doctor mingle out. >> for the rest of her life you will look at her and think that's the one who put children in cages, that's the womans wh broke up families across the border. and you know what, they'll be right. take this. >> they separate babies from their parents. >> she will be known for implementing of cruel policy. >> for the year and a half she spent running the department of homeland security, she should never sleep soundly again. ours is for her resignation of bloomberg reporter called jennifer epstein tweeted this, her next stop will be carefully watched if any major companies hire her, pay her to speak,

expect to see major outcry from immigration and civil rights group and beyond. in other words, for her sins, she shouldn't be allowed to hav a job sheet must be carefully watched. anyone who disagrees with that assessment should be able to work either or speak in public or his post on social media or so books on amazon, or use banks . that's their position. it is the definition of extremism. anyone yowho disagrees with me must be hurt. this is not sustainable. deep down pretty much everybody knows that. we can't keep living like this with a small group of unhappy angry people in power terrifyin the rest of us. it is too stupid, and cruel and dishonest. w countries have borders, that's why they are countries. seeing that isn't hate speech, it's true. barack obama must not be on twitter because whatever his many faults that is still obvious to him, listen to what he said the other day during a speech in berlin.

>> i worry sometimes when as we think about how to deal with th immigration issue we think that any moves towards assimilation of the existing of newcomers to the existing culture is somehow a betrayal should we want to encourage newcomers to lend the language of the country they're moving to. of course. does that mean they can never use their own language question like no, it doesn't mean that, but it's not racist to say if you're going to be here, then you should learn the language o the country you just arrived in. >> assimilation is essential to national cohesion. immigrants should learn nthe language. that doesn't sound crazy. nobody's doubting that in the 204 year history ofed this couny

. least of all the millions of immigrants who have arrived her and learn to sing the national anthem in english was self-evident to them and everybody else. only under the reign of the modern left has a become forbidden to say what's true about immigration and 100 other topics. the truth doesn't change. it doesn't make faqs disappear fax disappear. immigration can be a great thin for the country that it must be carefully and thoroughly manage. you can change the population o the whole country and assume things will get better. if you cared about a country yo wouldn't try to do that. even bernie sanders understands it. he wants that may or may not be a good idea, but it will definitely not work with open borders, it's impossible with open borders. sanders acknowledged that the other day.ac >> if your point is you open th borders, there's lots of povert

in this world. you will have people from all over the world i don't think that's something we can do at this point. >> there's lots of poverty in this world, the poor will move here and we're going to have to pay for it. my gosh, sanders must be racist to say something like that. maybe he just cares about what d happens to america. all of our leaders should care about what happens to market. .e america. we don't hire them to improve mexico or china or europe. no offense to those countries. how would you feel that your parents if they treated you lik camilla harris wants to treat the united states. keep the doors a month, everybody can stay. nobody's keeping track of how many come and go or who they are .. your parents aren't around to supervise, there at the neighbors house bragging about what good people they are. that's what neglect looks like, it's abuse and that's what's happening right now. people know what. look at the polls. americans would like to see les

immigration into this country not because they're bad people, because they are people, they want b the immigrants we do tak to be skilled enough to support themselves. and to contribute to america right away, not three generations from n now. more than anything americans want secure borders, but they'r not getting any of that and so resentment is building. why wouldn't it? what can be done to fix it. thank you very much for coming on. hwhy is it so hard for the administration to enact the policies that president ramone? >> i think the biggest impediment hasdi been the department of homeland security itself. leadership at that agency for the past two years, ever since thee president took office has been unwilling to execute many of the president plans. i can say from direct personal expense i have been in the room when the president has given express orders to leadership at dhs and then assured that yes those orders will be carried ou

than a year later nothing has happened. there has been deliberate for dragging and i think that's wha you're seeing the white house take the necessary steps to cleanhs house at dhs and put people and hopefully who will quickly execute what the president orders. the agency needs to enact and move quickly to execute the presidents objections and policies. that has not been happen. it's been really remarkable. how badly the agency has been doing and executing what the president as asked. >> it's not just a hope it's a constitutional requirement. if you're running dhs to how, what would you do first? >> the first three things i would do to address the current problem on the border is number one we would publish the final version of the regulation that settles the floor as settlement.

it supersedes the forest settlement. it basically allows how the nic can detain an entire c family u together see you wouldn't have separation of families and you could detain them from as long as b necessary. the second thing is i would to play the thousands of fema trailers either to border citie or to military bases in texas and arizona and set up processing centers instead of turning loose these bogus asylu applicants onto the streets never to be seen again. let's put them in mobile homes let's ship the immigration judges in. when there are denied, five the back home. and the third thing that i woul do, is published by regulation to tell elmexico and so many wo no, you're illegal aliens in th united states cannot send remittances home anymore. you can't wire things or wester

union. that regulation is going to tak effect and become final unless you send the third country like we have with canada so that in the asylum applicant has to the first to save country they set foot in, mainly mexico they hav to play therefore asylum they can't walk all the way through mexico and say were applying fo asylum here in the united states . do those three things right away , and then there's about 50 other executive actions. to give those things that you just extended take care of the huge percentage of the problem that we see on television.ee i can't resist asking about barack obama is remarks from berlin. he said it is not racist as people to learn the language of the country they're moving to o to encourage them to assimilate. i wonder how have things change so much that that obvious statement which is been an article of faith for americans become hate speech?

>> in zero, i think multiculturalism has gone so fa over the edge that now to even say anything that suggest to people who came to america because they like something about our country to suggest to them, went on to adopt the language ofdo our country and w on to appreciate the united states constitution, to suggest that is to be somehow racist an intolerant. it's not true at all. is just to say hey we want to b a country where we all agree with each other in principle. we want to have shared principles and shared language. and shared values. nothing wrong with that. every great nation has them up. will she be headed to jail alon with 12 otherol cory booker pushing build to an

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enough to play by the rules. prosecutors say that they want jail time for all of them.or hoffman for maximum sentence could be five years behind bars. we are happy to have probably back. thank you for coming on. five years behind bars, does that seem like a likely punishment? >> i think most of them will ge a lot less very probably only a few months. the have to pay back some of th money. it will depend to what degree they cooperated. some of them have flipped on other people that they know aspects of how this thing was pulled off that might allow the government to bring bigger harges against some people. these things i always work in ways sthat are not they don't make sense often to us. this person gets lucky, this person doesn't, this is par for the course. >> the more transparency we can bring to better the country would be. i'm struck that the people bein held up by not defending any other parents obviously. but are all almost all our

parents and the colleges which benefited from this don't seem to be getting punished at all. whyem is that? >> these are their employees wh facilitated so predominantly it was coaches, it was people caught up in this immense sport bureaucracy that exists and is to some degree funded and pushe by the federal federal government. these people, they were just bribed a left and right, and no one caught on for forever. they just got away with it. it scares me how much power the evidently p had over the admissions process to decide wh comes in with no one double checking who they're saying is on the rowing team. this kid is obviously never rod their bikes. the guts of this really a lead really nice schools, that is horrendous to me. >> it's a little hard to believ that these games could be going on and no one in the admissions office or the present office is aware of it. i don't share the politics of felicity huffman or whatever he

name is,s but it makes me suspicious that all the attention is on the parents and none on the actual beneficiarie of the scam. >> the people in the schools were either so oblivious and so bad at their jobs they had no idea what was going on. i if the teller at wells wells fargo defraud a series of customers and business scandal around it. the ceo of wells fargo jumped u to the delegates to testify before congress. the head of the u.s. he has escaped scrutiny at all. >> says it sounds like they jus quietly fired the person. it didn't come to light into al this news broke because they don't want the bad publicity. their self interested just like everybody else. the act like they're the world and are, but i think with the scandal may have shown more tha anything else in our populist moment we're living through is man, this is really rigged in

really unfair and it's not producing a kind of merit society based on merit. it's a the playground for the rich. >> these people were there and they went they were going get thrown out because they weren't smart enough. >> if you want to know what america's elite colleges produce , go on twitter and you will not be impressed. >> every day i'm not impressed by twitter. >> thank you very much. >> my pleasure. democrats have become the almos every sister on board was race-based preparations. cory booker says everyone else is a phony that is pandering. he's not getting it all. watch. >> this has been a hot button issue this time is reparation. would you be in favor of direct monetary payments to black to americans who our descendents o slaves? >> can i tell you why i am disappointed by this conversation. it's been reduced to just a box sto check on a presidential lis.

this is so much more of a serious conversation. do i support legislation that i raise conscious about the balance that economic scales wa not only do a supportive, but has legislation that does it. i've got the only legislation i the entire congress the columbi university says would virtually eliminate the racial wealth bac in our country. >> it turns out the bill wouldn't actually make preparations that would create commission to study reparations andou that would make recommendations. why the long wait? thank you much for coming on. can you thank you for having me. >> cory booker is sponsoring this. he grew up in a town that was less than 1 percent black. both his parents were ibm executives. he1% went to stanford, then he a scholarship to oxford.

he's now a united states editor. how big with his reparations check the? >> first of all the commission is going to study whether there is even check this idea that it's the check that it will com from individual taxpayers. we don't know any of that. perhaps it could come from the corporations that have benefite from slave labor like lehman brothers, like wachovia, late j.p. morgan. what about aetna. >> who would get it. that's the funding side i mean the beneficiary side. how big, someone who's obviousl at the pinnacle of privilege in our society. >> i wouldn't say the pinnacle privilege for debbie heard the story about his father joined by a home had to have a white man pretendnd. >> there is no doubt in my mind that his family has faced racism ,. >> unlike me for example he let me he went to stanford, then he was of rose-colored oxford may want to yell lustful.

and now he's a senator. there's people to lack any privilege at all, he is not one of them. >> does anybody earn any of that ? who's to say he didn't earn tha scholarship, the entrance into stanford. >> our missing he didn't. i'm saying as of 2019 is one of the most powerful people in the country. would people like that be eligible for payment? >> one of the things were doing. >> as you know, and i mean it. i think it's really clear that s since that have taken place i america's past reverberate through the centuries. >> absolutely. the past informs the future. >> do we make it worse? my concern would be if for giving people money who don't need it. >> i would say barack obama is not eligible.

>> because he doesn't have a parent who lived in the united states? >> he is not a descendent of slaves people in the united states of america. i don't know about cory booker is genealogy. >> would you feel uncomfortable if cory booker or pick and affluent african-american. there are not a small number, there are a lot. would you feel uncomfortable if they got checks? >> again, i'm not sure this goe down to checks. again, how this will be dispensed, who gets it, these are the things we need to study and figure out if it's even feasible. >> can you understand, there ar over 300,000 americans killed o the union side and their descendents must be saying we lost a family member fighting this institution for people who just showed up from another country who might be in scripte to pay for this. how about latin american immigrants? >> again, tucker, you are

looking at this from a moral standpoint. i think that's an okay stand. but i think some of this has to be looked is as an economic issue. we're looking at it from the standpoint of there were people who were labor was expected, an made people extremely and the country extremely wealthy, and other people did not get a chance to build that. >> i don't think anybody doubts that actually. but what we're talking about what booker is talking about is what do we do nowal. so what you're going to wind up with is a country that says to poor people from guatemala, som percentage of what you make is going to go to make this thing you had nothing to do with better. >> this is what we have to study . why wouldn't it come from corporations question i. >> the shares of those corporations in ssome cases wi be owned by first immigration immigrants. though say that's my money. >> i would say this corporation that you've invested in those a

are dead because it became extremely wealthy from free labor. and discriminated against people . >> there is no doubt, but the corporation is owned by individuals in the united states . there is no corporation apart from that. it's a corporation they own and probably most of them have no even genealogical link to slavery. a lot of them were on the other side. i mean you bump into reality pretty fast and it becomes is sotesque. >> i think this is something that a commission has to study, look at. what is a fair way to dispense reparations. how can we equalize or at least get rid of this wealth gap. it says it would take 228 years that african-americans be at th same level is white, and that i if we made everything equal

today. it would take 28 years to eliminate the racial wealth. >> one of many statisticsia produced byy academic and academia that has no basis. after you get into this academi thing. >> i would love that. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> democrats don't want ex- felons to vote, now they want people voting from prison. think about what that means for ms minute. we will discuss that after the break.

>> democrats finding it harder and harder to win the votes of ordinary american citizens. instead they have a new strateg create a new beauty voter pool. but 16 -year-old vote, open the borders and now gets the boat t violent criminal still behind e bars. and i want saturday those who nt make a of america's law still should be able to help make them . >> incarcerated people are allowed to vote. >> yes. >> would you commit to that idea ? would you commit to that on a nationwide deal question are. >> i think that's absolutely th direction we should go. let incarcerated people vote. plenty of prisons are located i rural areas it's perfectly possible that inmates could win up running the town that holds them because they be the bigges

voting block. expect that to be a democrat at litmus test by the end of may. mark, the inmates would not be just running the asylum, but running the town. >> is. he is actually the front runner because to continue with your asylum the land of the entirely deranged, the fitfully sane man is king and bernie is the proverbial stopcock. you just ten minutes ago, you mentioned a burst of sanity on immigration where he said we can't have open borders because all the world poor will want to come here. he sounded is crazy as you, tucker. he sounded evil. and then every so often, he jus he just genuflect to the

insanity of the base and the party. but he's actually much shrewder than haris and booker and all the rest of it. if he doesn't quell it blow it like he did last time, he's actually going to be as i said at least fitfully sane guide th proverbial stopcock. >> can i ask you a question that's been bothering me. why can't you have a candidate populace in economics, who wasn't any kind of supply side supply-side or libertarian economics that more conservativ on the social issues is focused on the country rather than the rest of the world, who is profamily. those are not incompatible positions. >> i would say that's where the sweet spot in politics is. you're over 10-15 years ago we used to have these people like who we're so-called fiscally conservative and socially liberal. i would say actually the sweet spot is probably to be fiscally

liberal and culturally conservative. that is where old-school socialists like bernie sanders would have been quite comfortable.. bernie's brother is like an old-school british labour party socialists. he's all about the workers, by which he means the british workers. the six and a half billion othe workers that want to have after the border. i think that is the sweet spot. >> i would be sympathetic to a candidate. she started sporting a new accident while speaking at al sharpton extremely tax exempt conference last week. >> this is what organizing look like. this is what building power looks like. i'm proud to be a bartender. nothing wrong with that. take she says she's from the bronx and she has always spoken that way.

she says it was tone switching and that her normal day-to-day voice is the fake one. she is not the first democrat t discover a long lost accent. >> i have come too far from where i started from. nobody told me that the road would be easy. >> if you patronize an audience that much, would you feel shame? >> looked. in fairness, i would say alexandria, hillary is terrible at it, absolutely terrible. if you're going to do it come h had to do it and i speak as a foreigner, so i can't tell the difference betweenen an and william f buckley junior. all you americans on the same t me. but hillary can't do it. and actually, i think that gets to the heart of it. alexandria can get away with it in a way that hillary can't

because i think for hillary and joe biden. i think those people are saying i want to be something other than white. take my whiteness away from me. i'm indian like elizabeth warren , i'm hispanic, or i'm just whoever i'm standing in front up at the moment like hillary. alecf she is doing it with a mu lighter touch. >> i think it's a fair point. i want to know, we are roughly the same age, didn't you grow u in a g world where people were encouraged to be you naturally are? when you're a kid can you imagine living in a country where people we're supposed to be ashamed of how they we're born. i think that's opposite of what we want to. >> i lived through a huge generation of stupid songs abou being authentic. whitney houston, learning to love yourself is the greatest love of all. sammy davis junior, i gotta be me.

all of a sudden, we have politicians who are actually trying to pretend to be so elizabeth warren is nobody laughs, that's the insanity. we laugh at it, but everyone wh matters in america takes that nonsense perfectly seriously. >> is a sustainable long-term t tell people they should be ashamed of how they we're born? >> i don't think so. i think it's actually psychologically unhealthy?. i think that's what's interesting. she's a young woman in the late she's goofing around with that crowd. for hillary, it actually says something appalling about our political class that they can b in front of us for four decades and still not know who they are. >> i agree with that. it's really unhealthy i think. marc stein, great to see you. thank you for that. >> thank you, tucker.

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>> ♪ >> tucker: >> last month the state legislature and the state of georgia passed hb 481 the sogar rb bill which awaits the signature from the georgia governor bright is pretty straightforward with the usual exceptions for,, and life of th mother. position would be sanctioned fo performing the abortion after the child's heartbeat can be. famous people in los angeles

have promised to boycott georgi if it becomes law. what's interesting is what the abortion lobby has been said about it. nobody's claiming the bill won' save lives. it's hard to argue that a child whose heart is beating isn't a living human being. instead, here's the argument that using against it. listen as the former georgia legislator explains on msnbc over the weekend. >> we have to be a state that's not only h friendly that we've to be friendly to the women who work in these businesses. you should not have to worry about your ability to control you're bodily economy because the governor has pushed such an abominable and evil bill that i so restrictive. it's not bad for morality and humanity, it's bad for business. >> is bad for business. according to stacy abrams, protecting the life of the chil whose heartad is beating is evi because as she said it's bad fo business. business needs reliable workers to give everything to the company. workers who won't be distracted by things like their own

children or perpetuating a species. dutiful little worker bees who' rather have an abortion than disappoint shareholders. stacy abrams want to make the world safe from workers like that. this is the face of corporate liberalism. it's crueler than the old version. throughout the 1990s politicians iawe're willing to admit marijuana use, but they seem embarrassed about it. now ijon both sides they brag about their drug use and call for marijuana to be legalized nationwide. >> i am all for legalizing marijuana. >> i'm all for the end of the prohibition of marijuana. >> should marijuana be legal? >> yes.. >> marijuana will be great for some businesses, but it's stil a drug causes it causes letharg and lowers iq. it's been linked to schizophrenia among other psychoses. the legalizing it be good for america? a fantastic new book called tel

your children the truth about marijuana and violence. he joins us.ou thanks very much for coming up. >> thank you so much for having me. could. >> you been living this topic i is that your wife is a physician , she told to the marijuana was more damaging to people than you thought he spen quite a bit of time proving her right. since you know what you do abou it, what you make of watching politicians call for legalizing it? >> i think it's interesting. in the democratic party this is clearly an issue that politicia to our serious about running fo president don't feel like they have a lot of room on. and blue states like, new jerse and new york, state legislators who are actually confronted wit the realistic possibility of legalizing this drug are kind o shying away from it. we saw in new jersey there was going to be a vote on march 25 th that didn't happen because the pro- legalization lobby didn't have the votes in new york, the governor promised that it would be part of the

budget, but the budget came ou and it wasn't in there. i think people to think legislators who have to deal with this is a poster politicians at the national level who are just running for office and want to be seen as rogue and progressive than what young democrats to support them i think local politicians are seeing the real problems here. >> so we have case studies, colorado making the most long-standing, what have we learned from their experience? >> in the states that legalized as i mentioned in the book, violent crime has gone up post legalization. we can't directly connect that to legalization, but we can say is the promise of legalization will reduce violent crime doesn't seem to be the case. the states seem to have this dilemma if they legalized for i they can essentially let anybod who wants to grow and sell, gro and sell. that's what oregon has done. that makes prices plummets you have this cheap the bill pot available to people or do a california didn't they were going to have high taxes and no

allow dispensers to site. in that case the black market continues to be very vigorous. ironically in california now there are people calling for enforcement against the black market. i thought legalization was supposed to end enforcement. >> so that's kind of points up with the motive white me which is tax revenues. >> absolutely. texas and california have been short of projections. i think the governor though he' never said this publicly might be concerned in new york were not actually going to generate the revenue we think were going to generate -ish is going to be a problem for me so going to le it with her on the vine and not try to get it passed even thoug i said it would. it is odd that there has been s little movement. i would also say that since the book came out in january there have been more study showing that cannabis can cause psychosis, that is linked to depression. cannabis use in the young adult is lead to depression. cannabis use by mothers is

linked to more symptoms of psychosis in their kids. so more and more, i think one reason the left is pushing the sogard and m legalizes are pushing so hard right hinow is there aware that the data is coming out and coming out best to show the real problems here. >> i'm interested in the reception you got. i'd be shocked if you're a conservative break you've written this book, you say it's nobody wants to say in public. have you received a lot of hostility? >> is. i've received tremendous hostility both from users and i like to say it's not exactly direct threats, but i get on twitter some death wishes. b but also from the drug policy community. i've honestly been shocked that these people will not engage with the science and a serious way. i love you, i love being on wha fox, but i should be on msnbc, should be on cnn. these people don't want to engage with the reality of what this drug is. they want to pretend it's medicinal. they want to pretend it doesn'te

have problems. the truth is that is a dangerou position to take. if they said this is a recreational drug, it has us that we think people should be allowed to use it. they just want to pretend it's medicine. >> we're the reckless moment. i think that might be the answer . you've taken such an unpopular stance and i respect that. >> i believe in the book and i believe in the truth. >> amen, i do too. chicago prosecutor kim foxing appears to be corrupt is pullin the last she's calling her critics racist. more on that head. the i press is so committed to open borders that are ready to ms 13. t ♪

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>> ♪ ♪ >> tucker: congressman eric swalwell of california has been a frequent guest on the show. he was one of the original and truest believers in the rush of conspiracy sadly, he never found that truth he spent so long looking for. we have good news. he stopped looking for russian spies for a few moments anyway. now his new passion, becoming the president. >> i've already done a lot but i can do more. i've been in congress for six

years. i've defended our country from the intelligence committee while democracy has been on the ropes. i took a group of young members of congress, started a group called future forum, we've gone over the country to listen for an agenda for the next generation of americans. i see a country in quicksand, unable to solve problems and threats from abroad. >> tucker: congressman eric swalwell. a nice guy. he does get elected, it will be tough. swalwell is already called for confiscating the firearms of law-abiding americans, who committed no crime at all, and said that federal agents are going to take their guns by force. if he becomes president and is that, it will be tough to manage the country. chicago prosecutor kim foxx has been denounced by chicago's police union, its outgoing mayor, the state's prosecutor bar. she could soon face a federal investigation into what she did. almost everyone sees her on corrupt and unethical. those who can pronounce it say that. so how is kim foxx hanging onto her career? she has one weapon left to use,

call all of her critics racist, even the black ones. trace gallagher has more amount. >> as before, despite numerous judges and legal expert saying it is highly unlikely to drop the charges on jussie smollett, cook county states attorney kim foxx has denied to discuss the case. and now she openly wondered if the criticism she faces might have something to do with race. march. >> i've been asking myself for the last two weeks, what is this really about? and or someone who's lived in the city, who came up from the projects of the city to serve as the first african-american woman in this role, it is disheartening to me when we get in these positions that somehow goalposts i change. >> congressman bobby rush and

activist jamaal green accused the chicago police union of flat out racism. watch. >> the foc is a sworn enemy of black people. >> we have all white men fop getting up looking like the ku klux klan to us all in uniform. >> whenr: most comments are made from a fox news correspondent matt finn, who was at the news conference, said kim foxx didn't verbally or visually object. so he repeatedly asked her if she considered police the blue klux klan, and she ignored him. >> did you think that statement was correct? do you think the fop is racist? are you going to stand by the gentleman? >> and foxx says she believes white nationalist participated in the police union

demonstration. the union rejects that assertion and called the blue klux klan comments falls. the former assistant states attorney in kim foxx's office has filed a petition to find out if smollett should be recharged for staging hate crime. tucker? >> tucker: trace gallagher, thank you very much. ms-13 is america's most dangerous criminal gang. that is not speculation. the numbers are there, they are tied up with human trafficking, drug smuggling, dozens of writers around the country. like any rational person, the president doesn't like what they stand for. he called what they deserved to be called, animals. >> the ms-13 gang members don't reach a certain threshold -- >> we have people coming into the country, trying to come and, we are taking people out of the country, you wouldn't believe how bad these people are.

these aren't people. n these are animals. we are taking them out of the country at a level and a rate that is never happened before. >> tucker: keep in mind that i'm a 13 praise upon almost exclusively other salvadoran and guatemalan immigrants. you would think terms comments might be greeted with applause. but no. condemning ms-13 would be questioning open borders, so instead, the press decided to lie and accused him of attacking all immigrants. msnbc's joy reid for example tweeted, "asylum-seekers are people, they are animals. this is particularly frightening language coming out of a person vested with the power of the presidential office." if you are getting a little deja vu, don't worry, this exact same fake controversy played out over a year ago over the exact same court. a republican from the new york state assembly joins us tonight. thank you for coming on. you thought ms-13 cells all over

new york state. what is your response to what you just saw? >> winston churchill is said to have said, a lie gets halfway around the world before the truth get his boots on. it was figuratively true in his day but now with twitter and everything else, is literally true. if you look at who read tweeted this comment, saying that trump called people illegally crossing the border animals and didn't distinguish between regular border crossers and ms-13, it's a who's who of media people, a who's who of hollywood, a who's who of presidential candidates. so it's really amazing this is happened not once, but twice. >> tucker: one of the most amazing shows we've ever done, i sat right across from a guy on the set, a democratic political consultant from virginia during the governor's race last year, who defended ms-13. he said that it was immoral to attack them. in fact, bigoted, to attack them because they were from el salvador. how do we get to a place where people will defend ms-13?

>> they have to obscure the real conversation that was going on with the fresno sheriff and the president of the united states. she was saying, because of the california sanctuary policies, there are ms-13 members that she cannot get offers streets, that she cannot bring to justice, ant really scary realitybs is to play the races card, to accuse the president of saying something so horrible, and that is what they have done. now they have lost the big russian collision narrative and they need another way to attack this president, and they attacked the president as being a racist, and there's a couple of things they are doing. of course, hurting his reputation but millions of americans support the president and they are trying to drive enough of those americans who support the president away from him for the selection that is coming up because no one wants to be seen as the supporter of a racist because then you are implicitly a racist and that is a big part of what is going on. >> tucker:or so if you are willing to defend ms-13, and pretend that a political figure you don't like is referring to

all immigrants as animals, what is it going to be like a year from now when we are getting very close to the election? i mean, how unhinged our democratic candidates going to be by>> that point? >> i don't think we have seen anything yet, as amazing as that is to ponder. president trump, candidate trump snuck up on them in 2016. they did not know how to expect that, as you can tell by their reaction immediately after the election and for the k last two and half years. they know it is coming.or the stakes are high for them. i think trump derangement syndrome is going to be taken to a whole new level. >> tucker: but if we racialized everything, if you live in a country where peopleuc cannot agree that a violent criminal gang of illegal aliens is bad because it's been racialized, what is due to the country? can you have any conversation about any policy that doesn't rake down racialized? >> that's a big part about this. the democrats can't win borders and critical soap support her

actual policies on the border. if you push them, they are for open borders. no enforcement, change, chain migration. they can't win on those issues so they need to prop, activity to the race card and try to be viable in elections. it's ripping the country apart. >> tucker: why not just explain yourself? if you are for open borders -- i'm happy to talk to a flat earth there. just make their case. >> they know that is not going to get them continued majorities in the house of representatives, not going to get them is in it, not want to get them the white house. they have unpopular policies are so they wrap it in the race card to an recollections. it's despicable. >> tucker: to get you to shut up on their way to power. we are all living at right now. thank you very much. we are out of time.me amazingly enough. could go on forever. limited by law to one hour. but we hope you will come back tomorrow, at 8:00 p.m. we will still be here. the show that is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness, and groupthink.

all of which are everywhere right now. if you don't catch a live, you can dvr it, given that you can figure out how it works. good night from washington. now, joining us live from new york city, the great sean hannity. >> sean: oh, it's me come as before, how are you doing? [laughs] good show. as always. welcome to "hannity." it's a big breaking news night onyo multiple fronts, we are working up to the last second here. in moments we will cover the crisis on the southern border. it is now completely and fully overwhelming any capacity that those brave men and women a that guard our borders have to deal with this. also we will focus on its way out of control radical socialisi 2020 democrats, new levels of insanity worse than ever as they become more unhinged with each passing day and of who are literally becoming, you know, the socialists that we thought