arthel: the showdown over border security and immigration intensify as president trump says he's considering a proposal to place i' immigrant detaineesn sanctuary cities, triggering fast and fierce reaction from democrats. welcome to america's news headquarters. i'm arthel neville. eric: i'm eric shawn. the president is reversing earlier statements from administration officials who briepreviously said the idea waa non-starter. the white house pitched the plan twice in the last six months but it was rejected both times. the president says it's not off the table. >> california certainly is always saying we want more

people. and they want more people in their sanctuary cities. we'll give them more people. we can give them an unlimited supply and let's see if they're so happy. they say we have open arms, they always say we have open arms. let's see if they have open arms. arthel: jeff paul is live in los angeles with reaction there. we begin with allison barber live from the white house. >> reporter: president trump says this is an idea he is strongly considering even though the white house has been warned that it is likely illegal. sources tell fox news, the white house previously asked the department of homeland security and i.c.e., immigrations and customs enforcement, if it would be possible to bus large numbers of immigrants from the southern border to sanctuary cities. i.c.e. told the white house that it would violate the laws guiding immigration enforcement authority and also run afoul of appropriation restrictions. the idea was reportedly bounded around and the white house decided against it until yesterday when the president

said the idea is one he is strongly considering. here's the president's senior communications adviser a little earlier today. >> that discussion that occurred was mostly between advisers, it was conversations we had between the white house and the department of homeland security. in speaking with the president, the president said let's look into this. you know, at the end of the day, the president of the united states is the one who is going to determine what our immigration policy is. >> reporter: yesterday president trump also said he is planning to send troops to the southern border. he got pushback from that when he did that in october. critics said it was a political stunt that wasted a lot, millions of taxpayer dollars. the white house they disagreed. they felt it was necessary to deal with what they see as a national emergency at the southern border. all of this as democrats are slamming the president for tweeting a video that begins with comments congresswoman ilhan omar made at a speech last month, comments that critics say

minimize the terror attacks on september 11th. the video president trump tweeted shows congresswoman omar saying some people did something and shows various news clips from 9/11. democrats are condemning it. senator elizabeth warren said it is inciting violence, calling it disgusting and shameful. the latest pushback is coming from house speaker nancy pelosi. in a statement released this morning she says the president should not use painful images of 9/11 for a political attack and calls the memory of 9/11 sacred ground. arthel. arthel: meanwhile, house democrats are still trying to get president trump's tax returns. update us on that. >> reporter: initially they wanted to see those tax returns six years of them by april 10th. treasury secretary steven mnuchin said had his department would not be able to meet that deadline of april 10th. the chairman of the house ways

and means committee says concerns expressed by mnuchin in order to justify not making the deadline in his view lack merit. the chairman sent a letter to the irs commissioner and said the administration has until april 23rd to turn over the president's tax returns and if they don't, the chairman says they will see that as a denial. he will see that as a denial of his request, setting up more conflict between the white house and members of congress. a arthel. arthel: once again, allison barber, thank you. eric: reaction pouring into the president's idea of bussing the migrants to sanctuary cities, especially in the places that would be most affected. some democratic leaders on the west coast are pushing back hard on this proposals. other mayors say fine an say itd they would welcome the new people. jeff paul has more. >> reporter: the idea of sending migrants to sanctuary cities is sparking fierce opposition from

many democrats. nancy pelosi, who represents a district, san francisco, said the president is targeting -- that the president is targeting, was asked about this very idea. >> it suggests another notion that is unworthy of the presidency of the united states and disrespectful to challenges that we face as a country, as a people, to address who we are, a nation of immigrants. >> reporter: mayors of sanctuary cities across the country are also weighing in. new york's mayor, bill de blasio in a statement said in part the president uses people like pawns. new york city will always be the ultimate city of immigrants. the president's empty threats won't change that. los angeles' mayor tweeted we need real solutions that uphold our l values values, not disgra. with more central american migrants heading to the border, the former border control chief says the sanctuary cities are doing more harm than good.

>> make no mistake, sanctuary cities are part of this crisis. they are signaling and telling immigrants come here illegally, exploit our laws, our generosity, not only will we take you in, we'll protect you, we'll reward you and we will thwart the law enforcement from trying to do their job. it's truly unbelievable. >> reporter: oakland's mayor called the president's idea an outrageous abuse of power and public resources. she says she's proud to be the mayor of a sanctuary city and feels because of it her city is safer. and the mayor of san jose said his city welcomes migrants with open arms. arthel: for more on this we'll go to jill colvin, thanks for being here. as of yesterday, dhs officials weren't taking any steps to implement president trump's request. you've got legalities, logistics, liabilities issues preventing legitimate roadblocks. why would the president double

down? is this disregard for the law or is this merely a an attention-grabbing move. if that's the case, what point is he trying to make and is he getting in the way of his own message? >> we know the president is very frustrated by the situation at the border. early on, he used to talk about how the border capture numbers were way down, he was proud of those numbers. we just see the numbers going up and up and up. we reached a 12-year high last month in march. members of his administration are looking for anything they can do to try to address the situation, to stem the flow of people who are coming through. this is one idea that we know that the administration and dhs officials discussed at least twice, back in november and february. ds lawyers and -- dhs lawyers and i.c.e. lawyers said it was unfeasible. they say it would be a misuse of i.c.e. money to move these people. i.c.e. is strapped for

resources, strapped for cash and they're not taking possession of a lot of people who are coming a across the border, the migrant families, the border patrol agents are interviewing them and releasing them without i.c.e. taking part in the process. you've got a president who is deeply frustrated, trying to figure out what to do, saw the reporting on this idea that we saw on thursday night and into friday and decided this is something that maybe he wants to actually consider, despite what the lawyers said and he let us know that by tweet. arthel: is the president going about it the wrong way? you pointed out his frustration. he's the president. call the democratic leaders to his office, say this is enough, let's get together, as well as republican leaders, bring them both together and say we have to come up with the problem, together, this is silly at this point and it's dangerous. >> you've got the president looking for any solution he possibly can, trying to up the pressure on democrats, seeing this as a way to potentially

gain leverage over them, also threatening to completely shut the southern border which drew cries from the dhs officials saying you can't do that, it would be i'would impractical. you've got a president who is deeply frustrate and who has not been talking to democrats about this idea. we have not seen chuck schumer or nancy pelosi come to the white house in months, tensions are very strong there. we have the longest government shutdown in the nation's history over this issue, the border funding issue and you saw where democrats were deeply reluctant to provide the president money to build any kind of border barrier and they're just not talking. you do have democrats and republicans on the hill who are discussing various ideas, jared kushner, the president's senior adviser and son-in-law has been working for several months -- arthel: who he is working with? >> he's been bringing in -- he's held round table discussions with various republican groups,

talking to some lawmakers on the hill, trying to figure out some kind of package that might appeal to republicans that everyone can agree to. this is one of those issues, that's often described as the third rail in politics, one of those issues that is p deeply contentious, very emotional, people have different ideas about it and it's something that for decades members of the hill have l failed to reach a broad consensus, pass any major legislation that would address the flow of migrants coming in, asylum laws, also changes to the legal immigration system which is something jared has been focused on. arthel: you have been reporting the administration has been bussing people away from the border because they say those border towns are at capacity. tell us more about that. >> my colleagues who have been doing excellent work reporting on the border, last week wrote about how border officials down there are so taxed and you've got nonprofit groups along in the border towns say we don't have room for people here. they've been putting people on

busses, shipping them to bus terminals, to other facilities, towns likable yesterda like ad shipping them there. when the people come over, oftentimes they've had treacherous journeys, traveling from central america, from places like he'll sell have -- l salvador, through mexico, and they show up and they need help and it's something that is very resource intensive, not just for the government but the nonprofits who have set up, trying to help. arthel: tell us about the alleged conversation between kevin mcalon mcalean and presidt trump. >> this president allegedly happened last week. this was the time before the homeland security secretary, kirstjen nielsen, was pushed to resign. that happened a couple of days

later. and that point in time the president was still threatening that week to shut down the r border. kirstjen nielsen was telling him you can't do that, would vie lighviolate laws, you have to let asylum seekers come in. the president was having a conversation with kevin mcalean, and basically told him, i want you to close the border, doesn't matter what secretary nielsen is saying, i want you to do that. he at that point was head of the border patrol. the president from what we understand, according to sources, also told mcalean if he faced legal repercussions for that action, that the president would be happy to pardon him if he got into any personal legal trouble. it's unwhethe unclear whether hs saying this in a tongue in cheek way, it's hard to imagine a circumstance where the cbp commissioner or the secretary of homeland security would find themselves personally in legal

trouble for doing something like that on the president's orders but none the less you can see this is one more example of how frustrated the president is, how he's trying to push everyone around him to do more, to do something, even if they're telling him it's illegal. arthel: there's customs and norms and rules. i get it that president trump is looking for some sort of different answer because he feels what has been applied so far is not working but again, you've got the democrats saying -- speaker pelosi saying the idea that he's proposing she says, quote, is another notion that is unworthy of the president of the united states and disrespectful of the challenges we face. so summing it up here, again, something new is important, it's different to bring new ideas to the table. i know senator mitt romney is saying that both lawmakers, lawmakers on both sides of the aisle to get together and come up with new legislation. some of the president's tactics right now may be -- again, may

be getting in their own way -- his own way of trying to solve this crisis. >> that's why you saw secretary nielsen decide to resign because of frustration over the president's policies, her telling him you can't do this, this is not in accordance with the law, this is going to backfire on you, if you close the ports of entry remarks willl happen? migrants that are trying to come through will just do so illegally. some are saying the policies are backfiring, that they're increasing the flow of migrants, encouraging people to cross illegally. you can feel the frustration as they try to figure this out, pushing the president to try to do things that are in his capacity and to work with lawmakers to try to find a solution. arthel: political crisis, humanitarian crisis, indeed. but you still have to follow the rules. jill, thank you very much. >> thank you. eric: it's another saturday,

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time where cold air and warm air bump into each other, that's when you see severe weather. 54 degrees in dallas, 71 degrees in san antonio. you see the deep temperature difference? that's when you're going to see big systems spur up. that's what we've seen so far. we could see tornadic activity. the leading edge, the back edge of the storm, back to the eastern side of dallas, stretching towards austin. there's one area where we've seen a tornado north of college station, running to the north of lufkin. it's a cell that spun up at least tornadic activity off and on throughout the last couple hours. it's one to continue to pay attention to. this entire region, there's a spot here as we begin to see this system drift into northern louisiana and mississippi, all areas where we could see winds up to 60 miles an hour, hail and of course off and on tornadoes are likely through this afternoon, into this evening. the future radar shows the motion of this storm. it is going to be lifting to the north. this edge down here is all spots

where we could see severe weather. that runs from now all the way into the overnight hours. then you get into sunday. this entire system is still in place. so it's going to be shifting across the country. that's something we'll have to be watching, not just for today where we see the large area of the potential for severe thunderstorms and tornadic activity and then you get into sunday and this shifts farther off to east, so we start talking across areas of the southeast and mid-atlantic. this is not just today we're paying attention, but something we'll be watching tomorrow also. arthel: thank you very much. eric. eric: arthel, the race for 2020 heating up and there's a wide range of issues that americans will be weighing when they head to the voting booths. there is a special town hall, town hall america, it airs tomorrow night at 8:00 p.m. eastern right here on the fox news channel. we're pleased to say harris joins us now, the day before, live from urbandale, iowa. >> reporter: hi, eric. eric: great to see you.

>> reporter: good to see you. eric: what do you expect folks will be concerned about tomorrow, what will we hear about some of the major issues? >> reporter: democratic socialists, me too movement, immigration, sanctuary cities, by the way, there are 14 known sanctuary counties in the state of iowa, even though they've been putting on the books laws to try to push them out, they're popping up with jurisdictions who refuse to go away and what that issue looks like with senator joanie ernst on set with me and an angel mom whose daughter was killed by a drunk driver who was in the country illegally. they're still looking for him, by the way. these are some of the issues we know, eric. you and i will catch each other. this will be the first time that we see some of the story-telling and elements from that mom, michelle root, and what she wants the nation to know. she's even met with president trump and she's got a story to

tell that broadens out the conversation about what's happening at the border. we'll be asking the ad audience show of hands questions in terms of what they think are the issues. you and i will talk about polling and where we think voters are. we don't have to poll anymore. we can ask them. fox news has come to the people and we're going to do one thing, i hope very well, we're going to listen and we're going to do so silently and let them get their words out. there's a reason why those two words have the same letters. listen and silence. eric: can you tell us more about michelle, the washington post has a story saying that -- they did a study in which they showed that a certain sample of migrants are not going to sanctuary cities but to the midwest, states like iowa. what is the story with michelle, what is the tragedy that she suffered? >> reporter: well, look, i mean, there is fresh reporting here in iowa. we'll have a couple reporters in our audience too. there's fresh reporting that

shows some 14 counties identify as sanctuary jurisdictions. they're all over the country. but the issue that you're asking about specifically with michelle root is that she understands what other angel families are going through. she gets the issues of we just had another one in jersey city, a nanny killed, 4 a 5-year-old d woman, showing that that person, that suspect had been deported twice. this is an issue that hit anywhere. new jersey is not close to the southern border. the issues have to do with what works down there and we're going to hear directly from voters who by the way this audience, wow, in iowa, they know their place in history. they're engaged, educated on the issues and you know they're ready for february 3rd, even though it's next year, they're already thinking about these things. we've got democrats, independents, republicans in the audience and we're at full capacity. this living history farms

beautiful, the venue we have it in has a seating capacity that's pretty large and we're at it. we'll hear from a lot of people today. eric, again, sometimes you and i, we anchored together in the past, we'll talk about the things we think voters want to talk about that proverbial kitchen table, what they're speaking about but now we can simply ask. economics are an area where with people i've been talking with in iowa, that's where the president wins. what will democrats do to get their sight and their direction? will it be medicare for all? a lot of people are saying they like their employer based private health care, what is that going to look like? it will be juicy. eric: juicy and fascinating and we'll learn a lot and very compelling, looking forward to seeing you and watching tomorrow night here on the fox news channel. beautiful set, hope you have a fascinating time as you report from iowa. we'll see you back in new york. >> reporter: thank you so much, my friend. appreciate it. eric: thanks for joining us.

arthel. arthel: harris, thank you. democrats celebrating 100 days since taking control of the house. are they making progress on their agenda? and what about the divisions in the caucus? our political pan l he'l panel , that's straight ahead. cory booker kicking off his presidential campaign in his hometown of newark, new jersey, we're live from the scene. that's next. >> they can't wait for change. none of us can. we are here today to say we can't wait. [ cheering and applause ] let's see, aleve is proven better on pain

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why i am running for president of the united states of america. eric: that's a fiery senator cory booker, kicking off his national campaign tour. he did it in his hometown of newark, new jersey, where he served as mayor. this marks the beginning of a two-week cross country tour for the senator as he runs for the democratic presidential nomination. the president president joins a list of contenders, of nearly 20 democrats who have joined the race. brian llenas attended the rally in newark, new jersey and reports for us now as the event is basically ending. hi, brian. >> reporter: eric, good afternoon. yes, the event has ended now but going back to that point, senator cory booker served as the mayor of newark for seven years. his message today was, look, just as he claims he revitalized the city of newark, he said he can do the same for america's farm towns and factory towns

across the country. his message today was the situation right now in washington, d.c. is urgent. he is the person that needs to be in the white house to fix it and that this country is facing a great moral crisis. >> we can't wait when this administration is throwing children fleeing violence into cages, banning muslims from entering the nation founded on religious liberties and preventing brave transgender americans from serving the country they love and we can't wait because many of our most serious challenge as a nation were with us long before donald trump entered the white house. >> reporter: this launch of the two-week national campaign tour is called justice for all, and he believes he's the best candidate to deal with the inequities and social injustices that minority communities are facing across the country. he talks about how he lives in newark and has an apartment in

the projects. so that is a big part of his message. he talked about the need to reform the criminal justice system and strengthen voting rights act. but he's one of 18 democratic candidates in this very large and diverse field booker said the president is going to try to divide democrats but he believes a message of unity and love is what's going to win out and that they want to stay on higher ground. so far, the polls show booker's message has not gained as much traction as some of his competitors. this is the latest average poll out of iowa. the first primary state. booker is just at at 4%, biden is leading with 26%, l followed by bernie sanders actually who is at 16%, bideen i'm sorry is at 27%. you can tell that booker is the bottom half of that with just 3% of support nationwide. so again, booker's people think this is a good start and hopefully will gain momentum that he needs. eric. eric: his goal, clearly to move his name up that list.

brian, thank you. arthel: senator booker's fellow democrats celebrating 100 days since taking back control of the house with nancy pelosi, the speaker there, calling the milestone among the most productive in history. lawmakers gathered at an event this week hoping to create a united front on the looming showdowns on immigration, health care, and spending. let's bring in christian hon, a democratic strategist and former chief political advisor for the blue dog coalition. also, kevin sheridan, former communication director for paul ryan and former senior advisor for the romney, ryan ticket. kristin, since it's your party, you're up first. we mentioned some of the issues facing the house democrats. what grade would you give the house democrats, 100 days in? what grade? who is excelling? is anyone messing up the curve? >> i think we have the most diverse caucus in history and i think that that's an asset.

there's a lot of talk about division within the caucus but i think having a lot of different voices from all across the country is actually a good thing. and i would say that the democrats and the house are willing to work with republicans in the senate and donald trump on any number of different issues. we were able to actually pass pretty monumental criminal justice reform where senator dick durbin, democrat in the senate, took the lead with jared kushner and that was--i don't think enough attention paid to that. i think there's a lot we can do. let's keep in mind, the democrats control the house of representatives but the senate's controlled by the republicans. we all need to come together. arthel: i get your point. we'll talk about that in a second. hang on, kevin. i'll get you to jump in a second. kristin, you talked about the diversity, the diverse voices in the house right now which is a good thing but are they able to -- have they found their footing in terms of taking the ideas

from all the various places that are now being contributed and try to figure out a way to make that work for the house democrats? >> i think it's a really good question. there's a lot of attention paid to the far left, your ocasio-cortez, those kind of people, not enough attention paid to people like stephanie murphy, has been working diligently behind the scenes to make changes to, say, the rules package which as you know the rules that govern what comes to the floor for the first time since 2001, she negotiated a bipartisan rules package which passed with republican votes. i think there's smaller things that are happening that people aren't paying attention to. arthel: kevin, you get to grade the house dems on balance, on working with the president, as well as providing checks and balances. how are they doing? >> i sympathize with kristin who works with the blue dogs and right now you i would not give them the "a" grade out of that

caucus. the freshmen in that caucus have clearly captured the headlines, captured the energy of the party. if you couple that with what the presidential candidates are doing, where bernie sanders is leading the field and everybody is pretty much adopted i the sae very far left positions on medicare for all and trillions of dollars in new spending on a green new deal and everything else, the democrats -- the house democrats, their agenda hasn't been much more than general opposition to donald trump, which we know they partially won on that because of some concerns in the suburbs with his temper meanttemperment, i guess you cod say. arthel: if you're saying the dems won on that issues, issues to push back on the president, that's why they're there. as we know, elections have consequences. are they doing their job in that regard? >> i guess you could make an

argument that that's what they were sent to washington to do, but that won't be enough to go into 2020 and win again. not with a strong economy, not with president trump's largely accomplishing many of the goals he ran on. he's going to have a pretty strong campaign message going into 2020. with the world at peace and the economy growing and people feeling better about their jobs and their personal situations, economically, what are the democrats going to come back with? that socialism's great and let's throw this president out and turn towards this entire huge spending, huge new government programs? i don't see a lot of doctor in that from the swing -- a lot of interest in that from the swing voters that delivered president trump in 2016 and it will likely swing back in 2020 and house democrats could be on the outs again. >> can i respond to one thing really quickly? arthel: go ahead. >> kevin says that all democrats have adopted these ideas of medicare for all and that's just

blatantly not true. if you look at statements by most of the house democrats, they're not taking those left wing positions. agreed that i -- i do agree with him that the members on the far left have done a good job of capturing the audience but there are a lot -- in no way are every member of the democratic caucus in the house adopting the idea of medicare for all or the green new deal. they're pushing back. arthel: yes or no, kristin, because kevin made points, he said, look, the economy's good, the president has a strong chance of being reelected. is there anything the house dems can do to lay down the foundation for the candidates out there for you guys to regain the house. >> i think the kevin's right. the president has a good chance of being reelected. a lot of the presidential candidates will take up a lot of the space in the air waves but they need to do their jobs, keep their nose to the ground, talk to their constituents, that's

how they'll get reelected. arthel: thanks to both of you. >> thank you. arthel: on monday, here on the fox news channel, don't forget to tune into a town hall with democratic presidential candidate bernie sanders, brett bare, martha mccallum will host the event at 6:30 p.m. eastern time. eric: attorney general william barr sayin saying we could see e muler report this coming week. how much will be redacted, how much will we see and will the report address thal lee gas allf fisa abuse that put the russia investigation into overdrive. (danny) let me get this straight.

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confirming the report's impending release during his few days of testimony on capitol hill. garrett tenney is live in washington with the latest on this. >> reporter: the attorney general said he will submit a redacted version of the mueller report to congress by tuesday, if not sooner. democrats are demanding to see the full report without any redactions, though. this week barr said he would be willing to work with congress to provide more details from mueller's investigation but not until after he releases this initial redacted version to lawmakers and the public. despite that, top democrats continue to attack barr's credibility and to suggest that he is trying to protect the president. >> many of us tried to give mr. barr a chance but after this week's performance, it's clear as day, he and the president are working off the same playbook. and planning to withhold crucial facts from the american people. >> reporter: as you heard there, democrats are not expecting barr to release enough of the mueller report for them to be satisfied,

which is why the house judiciary committee has now got subpoenas at the ready to get the full report down the road if they choose to. this week, the deputy attorney general, rod rosenstein, told the wall street journal it was bizarre that democrats are attacking william barr and he defended the attorney general's handling of the mueller probe, saying he has been as forth coming as he can. republican lawmakers such as senator lindsey graham are echoing that defense ahead of the report's release. >> i trust barr to sanitize the report for protection of classified information and grand jury information. i trust his judgment. if somebody can show me where he's done something wrong, i'd be interested to hear about it. i think he's a highly ethical guy, i trust his judgment. >> reporter: one thing that is clear is that no matter what the attorney general releases, and any damaging information about the president that democrats hope to find, this will continue in the court and on capitol hill

all the way through the 2020 election if not longer. arthel r. arthel: indeed. garrett, thank you. eric. eric: let's go to bruce afrin, a public interest lawyer who teaches at rutgers law school, he worked on campaign finance for ralph nader, so you certainly know about these issues. what do you think we can expect potentially this week when we finally get to read the mueller report? >> well, eric, i think we're going to see the information about obstruction of justice. that's not going to get redacted. and i think we're going to see there's a difference of opinion between some prosecutors, when there's a different of opinion, that means there's no crime that can be prosecuted. if you can look both ways and say it can go either way, then mr. mueller acted correct correctly in nodirectly innot b. eric: what about lindsey graham who says he has faith in barr,

do you think he'll play it straight or do you think -- >> bob mueller is well regard's as a person of integrity. i don't think attorney general barr has been conside criticizes level-headedness and fairness. i think he has to redact because of grand jury minutes, there are confidential statements. it has to be redacted. eric: can you explain that a built? bit? he's come under criticism for a memo. in terms of grand jury secrecy, by law, that has to be redacted, even to congress. >> that must be redacted. it would be extraordinary that even congress should see grand jury minutes or information still before a grand jury or that which came before. eric: the critics have been saying they think there's collusion even though mueller came to the opposite collusion. tell us about the specific meeting, the trump tower meeting, where jared kushner and

don junior was there and paul manafort and they met with a russian lawyer and critics are saying that is collusion. they were meeting with a woman who is a russian lawyer who they thought represented the russian government. that's in those e-mails. why were charges not brought potentially on that? >> charges were not brought because nothing happened. one can meet with a russian lawyer. it's not collusion. it's coul if one illegally -- it's collusion if one illegally helps someone collude in a election. eric: when you talk about obstruction of justice, what do you think we'll see? do you think we'll see the president engaged in that? others say he had that oval office meeting, saying he fired the fbi director because he was a nut case and it took the pressure off of russia, said that in an interview with lester holt. others say the president has the right under the executive branch

to decide who he has as personnel. >> what we have to do is look at what is obstruction of justice. it's a secret, corrupt action that derails an investigation. when the president openly fires the fbi director as he has a constitutional power to do so for any reason, that's not obstruction. when he meets with james comey to say do we need to prosecute mike flynn for a single mistake in an otherwise blameless life, that's no what a president does. eric: do you think we'll see anything on the alleged fisa abuses in this report. >> i don't know if it will be there but it ought to be. it's clear the obama administration did not disclose that the information to gain surveillance on carter page came from the clinton campaign. that is a deception that ought to be in the report. eric: we'll see if it is and we'll analyze it once we get the report. thank you for joining us. there will be a lot more discussion on this on sunday morning futures,.

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president trump and kim jong un could be in the works, both leaders indicating they would be willing to meet again after their february meeting in vietnam ended abruptly without a deal. kenny logan is live in london with more on this story. hey, kitty. >> reporter: hi, arthel. yes, some positive comments there from the north korean leader, saying that he would consider a third summit but he also said he wants both sides to clarify their position before restarting any talks. the north korean leader made the remarks in a speech to the country's people assembly. he says he wants to see a new approach to resolving the roadblock and he warns that any breakdown in talks could lead to tensions rising again in the future. this followed a meeting between president trump and the south korean leader in washington and both the u.s. and south korea have agreed to continue direct talks with the north. president trump and kim jong un have met twice of course, the last time was in vietnam in february. that meeting collapsed without agreement. but both leaders insist that

relations are still positive. president trump tweeting to say a third summit, quote, would be good. now, both sides have indicated they're open to the possibility of this third summit but there are as of yet no concrete plans in place. arthel. arthel: kitty logan, thank you very much for that update. eric: we'll have more on that later on this afternoon. we come back at 4:00 p.m., eastern, here on the fox news channel. arthel: the i journal editor ll report is up next after this quick break. we'll see you later. ♪ here i go again on my own ♪ goin' down the only road i've ever known ♪ ♪ like a drifter i was-- ♪ born to walk alone! keep goin' man!

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i think spying did occur, yes, i think spying did occur. the question is whether it was predicated, adequately predicating. i'm not suggesting it wasn't adequately predicated but i need to explore that. paul: welcome to "the journal editorial report." i'm paul gigot. that was attorney general william barr telling a senate committee this week that he believes there was spying against the trump campaign and that he is looking into the genesis of the trump russia investigation and actions taken by the fbi during 2016. those comments setting off a firestorm on capitol hill with democrats accusing the attorney general of being off the