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back. the sworn enemy 06 lying, pompocity, smuggling, and group think. easter is on sunday. hannity is next. >> special edition of hannity, justice in america. i'm in tonight for sean. a good day for trump and a great day nor america. the witch hunt is over. there's no trump russia collusion. it was a giant constructed 2 1/2 year long hoax. the media's favorite conspiracy theory is blown out of the water. now they're shifting to another hoax, surrounding phantom obstruction of justice claims, which, as mark levine pointed out this mornings is complete and total nonsense. watch this? >> obstruction? it was not the purpose of the investigation. and he didn't have an
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obstruction case against the president of the united states. or he would have brought it. i'm using plain english so joe scarborough and jake can understand this. volume two is cracked. volume two was written for slip and fall lawyer nadler, slip and fall lawyer shift. that's why he wrote it. he knew the media would run with it. volume i, mr. mueller should have come up to a microphone six, 12 months into his investigation and announced to the american people, i have great news, the president didn't co-lewd, his campaign didn't collude. there's no collusion. bottom line, no obstruction charges were filed by robert mueller. no obstruction charges will be filed by the department of justice. there is no case. no crime was committed. and the president is calling many of the obstruction claims, quote, total bs. make no mistake. tonight, president trump has been cleared in more ways than
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one. as sean previewed on this show all week, equal justice is coming. and it will start with the president's counterreport, which my next guest says is coming next week. joining us, may attorney for president trump and former mayor of new york, rudy giuliani. i want to get to this whole idea of section ii, why did the department of justice do that if they're not going to bring charges. >> they were disappointed they couldn't catch him on collusion. they were trying very, very hard to trap him some way they could, either in obstruction. i knew they wanted to try to trap him to perjury, not that he would commit perjury. look at all of the lying in that report. i mean, the report particularly volume 2 -- remember, understand what it is, it's a prosecutor's version of what happened. not just a normal prosecutor, prosecutors who were extreme
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partisan democrats who one of them worked for the clinton foundation, she was the chief count counsel. you're right when he said, as a good citizen, the minute they found ooze was no collusion, which they knew before they started, jason, right? they had the counterintelligence investigation before this one. he's been investigated twice by the fbi and twice he's been cleared of collusion. so -- >> at the end -- >> he should have -- >> at the end of the report it said this report did not exonerate the president. i have never seen the department of justice go in and exonerate people. is that the business doj is in? >> i don't know. i with the u.s. attorney and associated attorney general in the era in which i always thought i thought i had to prove the person guilty. i never realized that my job was to find out if he was entirely absolutely innocent and there was no suspicion.
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so if we have that standard, i don't know of any democratic country that has the standard that you have to prove the negative. it gives you an indication, page two, volume two, how biassed they are, how warped they are. they say, we could not be convinced that he didn't commit obstruction of justice. therefore, we cannot exonerate him. but we can't prosecute him either, because we don't have enough evidence to prosecute him. that's the end of the story. when you don't have enough evidence to bring the case, the prosecutor is finished. he doesn't get to indulge all kinds of fantasies and rely on liars like michael cohen. it's disgusting. >> it is. you're prosecuting people for lying and using the same information. upon reflection, did the president grant too much access? the information he gave was stunning, documents, people, he didn't hold anything back. didn't you think that was a
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mistake in retrospect. he's getting no credit for it. >> i think he is with real lawyers, real accomplished lawyers who have kind of balance. the reason why you honestly can't make an obstruction of justice case on him and the reason he's innocent is how could he possibly have been said to have corrupted the investigation when he gave them everything. bill clinton fought them every step of the way. well, bill clinton was complete. -- guilty. maybe they shouldn't have impeached him, it was too personal. but he was guilty of perjury. we know that. we heard him admit it. so he was guilty of a federal crime. of course he was going to fight them every step of the way. richard nixon fought them until he lost in the supreme court. but he never wanted people to find out he was guilty. this was guilty. this man is innocent. he didn't do it. that's why they gave him everything. that's why he was frustrated and angry at the lies he was hearing. and i think the attorney general
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understood that you could charge corruption -- you can call obstruction with no criminal intent. >> is it the right call to waive privilege on the interactions with his attorneys? was that the right call? >> i wasn't there then, i'm not going to second guess what was done before i got there. i got what was handed to me. the attorney-client privilege to me is sacred. the executive privilege is sacred also, but it's a limited privilege. in other words, there's ways to get around it. they couldn't. they would have if they could. we gave them everything, they didn't have need for more information. except to try to do to him even worse than what they did to flynn and trap him in perjury. what they did to general flynn is a disgrace. the people who did that should be penalized for it. at least ethics violations. they trapped him to perjury. they trapped him in they knew the answer to. instead of showing the document
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that could have refreshed his recollection, they hit him with parenting charge so they could get him to turn on the president. they could tell the story. they didn't, they didn't because it's not true. and the man is an honorable man. they did that with manafort, eight months they kept him in solitary confinement to break him. they couldn't do it. they tried it with other witnesses. one after the other. they couldn't do it. the only guy who flipped on him was michael cohen. and michael cohen, you know why? before the house two weeks ago, did you read about that in his report? did you read about how the star witness fell apart and lied about asking for a job or a par cop? you didn't hear about that. >> no. did the special prosecutor grant immunity or offer imunionty to anybody in this case? >> i don't know if they did. i wouldn't know that particularly. >> time is short here.
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did that happen before the 2018 election? >> the lead investigator knew there was no collusion before the investigation started because he announced dramatically after the first investigation of collusion, there's no "there" there. he's such a liar, he didn't tell mueller maybe. but about six months into it, he had to know there was no collusion. he had to know how stupid the whole situation with popodopoluos was set up. and it was obvious for someone who gave them the information who was a counterintelligence guy and gave it in turn into another counterintelligence guy. they put him in the middle of a typical intelligence dirty trick. you can smell that if you know anything about this business. mueller knows a lot about this business. why didn't they investigate it. he didn't want to look for the truth.
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he wanted to look to nail trump. i don't blame bob. i blame him for being asleep at the switch. he had bad people doing this. he was like the wizard of oz. he was behind the screen somewhere and they were doing the dirty work. >> at what point did they know when did collusion -- there was no collusion out there? there never was at any point and how long they let this drag on. let me ask you about the counterreport you're working on and coming out with next week. what should we expect? what is going to be in here? >> first of all, we're going to put it out when we think it's necessary. we didn't think it was necessary at the end of this week because everything was answered. we've got a lot to go here. the testimony is going to come out. so i'm not sure exactly when we'll put it out. it will eventually be put out. it will be very, very telling because we can tell the whole story. we'll wait for the right time -- the right time to put it out.
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they should be ashamed of themselves. >> the genesis of this report, the fisa abuse. the department of justice is looking at this and should issue a report in what seems like the next 60 days, attorney general barr is looking at things, attorney general for utah, mr. huber is also looking at things. what about the next step which is finding out how it all came about and how it got put in place in the first place? >> there's no doubt in my mind. we touch on that in our counterreport, somebody manufactured this and said it to papadopoulos to get it started. i think a lot of it happened overseas. a good place to look is the ukraine, italy, england. i think the counterintelligence services there work with people
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that were trying to hurt president trump. and i think that's how it started and that's how it was generated. and you look at the -- you know the fisa affidavit says it better than i do. and the reality is if you couldn't convict people for false statements in that affidavit, you should turn in your law license. they didn't do basic things to corroborate the steele affidavit. the steele -- the steele dossier. if you read the steele dossier, it reads like a sensational movie or something. it's ridiculous on its face. but then there's a few facts you can corroborate. they say that cohen went to prague on a particular day. comey never bothers to corroborate that. he just had to call up the passport office. he didn't corroborate whether he had gone to russia. didn't go in seven years. he department have to throw it out -- somebody gave me a report on what happened in russia, i'd ask him, hey, what's the last time -- how many times did you go there?
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oh, i was there seven years ago. to heck with you, this is gone, this is a piece of junk. >> you didn't even have to ask him. you can look it up in three minutes and figure it out. >> i helped to start the fisa court. i know the solemn obligation you have. you have to act as both prosecutor and defense lawyer because nobody ever gets to test the other side of it. then you get to invade somebody's home and you get to invade their private thoughts and you get to take away all of their privacy. if you don't test before you put it in front of a judge. pretty bad. you have to get prosecuted if it's deliberately wrong. that's what i should warn people. could be mistakes. we don't know that until we investigate this. there are so many mistakes it seems like a pat everyone. >> mr. mayor, generous for your time, congratulations to you and the legal team and the president, mr. mayor, thank you. >> thank you.
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>> with the mueller report finally in the rear-view mirror, real abuses of power are coming squarely into focus. from the horowitz investigation to fisa abuse to the huber investigation into leaks. to attorney general barr's promise to investigate how and why the trump campaign was spied on by our own federal government. a deep state reckoning is on the horizon. joining us now with reactions, former south carolina congressman, second best chairman of the oversight committee, trey dowdy from south carolina. thank you so much for joining us. i read the report. you read the report. i was really struck by this, how most of this information really was classified. i mean, do you -- i can't believe that they went to such great lengths and put out so much information. what was your take? >> the same, particularly on the coordination, the conspiracy, the collusion section. the sources and methods.
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i thought half of that would have been redacted. i can tell you being on the house intelligence committee and house judiciary, we had a tough time accessing some of the information that was then publicly december similar marinated yesterday. >> at the end of the report, i want to put up the graphic here. i want to read part of what was said by mr. mueller. it said based on the facts and the applicable standards, we were unable to reach a judgment accordingly while this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him. you've been a prosecutor for decades. is that what the department of justice does? goes out and exonerates people? >> no, thank goodness. each of us including the president of the united states is presumed innocent. you need not the be exonerated if you have sufficient evidence to indict someone, them do so. then let a jury of 12 of your peers determine whether or not the evidence is sufficient. but to say that we don't have enough to exonerate, how would
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you do that anyway. i mean, you don't -- the jury verdict is not guilty or innocent. it's guilty or not guilty. the burden is on the government. and if you have enough special counsel mueller or ag barr, then indict. if you don't, as you know, jason, i was not a fan for this report being made public for the very reason you just cited. at least when you're charged, you can go to a trial, defend yourself, and have 12 of your fellow citizens say not guilty. here, there's no jury. and if there were a jury, they would be hung 50-50. >> i think that's the point. the part of this is the idea that i think it was a stab. i think it was a cheap shot at the end to say it does not exonerate him. because that's not what the department of justice does. the only one that can make you or put you in that guilty category is a jury of our peers. you and i both went through the issues with hillary clinton,
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benghazi and everything in between. how do you see trump was treated differently versus hillary clinton? >> oh, gosh, how much time do you have? just the duplicity in the dc media alone. you know, president trump answered questions that were sent to him by mueller. i sent questions to a president once, they didn't even get acknowledged, much less answered. but there's no media outcry. the media was disappointed that the executive branch report before it was made public. we're mad that an executive branch report is being reviewed by the executive branch. contrast that. secretary cliptop was investigated by an accountability review board she picked. sheryl mills was able to read that report and offer changes. and in fact she did offer changes, no media outcry. so, i can't speak for you,
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jason, you and i were in dc the same amount of time. the most disappointing part of my eight years the duplicity of the dc media, far more than the democrats. that's what i expected. >> explain to people a little bit more the head wind. i felt it, you felt it. but that head wind was so different than what donald trump is dealing with. how they deal with clinton and obama, it was such a stark contrast. >> the dc media never met a republican investigation that should have started and never met a democrat investigation that should ever end. so they're thrilled that the next two years and, look, i heard your intro, i -- i think the next two years are going to be just like the last two years. i don't think yesterday resolved anything. they're going to have more congressional hearings. the media will applaud it as opposed to the hearings that you and i were a part of, we were on defense, not just from the democrats but also from the media. so, look, i understand that
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congress has a low approval rating and some instances, hard earned. but lots of our fellow citizens also don't trust the media like they used to and they need to look no further than their own handling of republican versus democrat inquiries to see why that is. >> how do you read this -- were there ten points on obstruction? i look at those and i think, you know, gosh, they're giving all of the criticism to donald trump for things he department do. how did you read it? >> well, jason, let's go back to the beginning. there's nothing about this investigation that was normal. it's an counterintelligence investigation that was made public. that never happens. a criminal investigation where you're presumed guilty. and you have to prove your innocence. remember, adam shift had evidence of collusion before the investigation began.
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remember 60 house democrats voted to move forward with impeachment before bob mueller uttered a single solitary syllable. so, that is -- that's not the justice system. that's a quasi political investigation. add to that, you're being accused of treason, a crime for which, by the way, you can be put to death. and make no mistake, that's what they were alleging, that candidate trump co-lewded with a hostile foreign power to impact our democratic process. that's treason. so that is what they accused him of. i don't know how you would react, jason, if you were accused of something that you did not do which mueller had said you did not do. somewhere between vigorously defending yourself and losing your mind is where you would have been. so, look, some of the stuff doesn't read well, but you have to put it in the context. no part of what this investigation was is a traditional counterintelligence or criminal investigation. >> yeah. and -- look, i think if history writes the truth, it will write that donald trump was more open and transparent than anything else i've seen before and far
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more than barack obama that we dealt with. mr. gaody, thank you for joining us. coming up, no conclusion, no obstruction. but that's not stopping democrats for calling for impeachment, of course. and guess which 2020 contender is totally onboard. congressman mike turner and andy biggs and sarah carter will be there next, that and more of the special edition of "hannity, justice in america" continues. your brain changes as you get older. but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. and relief from symptoms caused feel the clarity of non-drowsy claritin by over 200 indoor and outdoor allergens. like those from buddy. because stuffed animals are clearly no substitute for real ones. feel the clarity. and live claritin clear. when it comes to reducing the evsugar in your family's diet,m.
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>> welcome back to this special edition of "hannity: justice in america" with the democrats' collusion conspiracy exposed as a hoax, it looks like a new round of party infighting is on the horizon. it looks like as nancy pelosi
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and steny hoyer are signaling against impeachment, that's not stopping ranked file lawmakers from pushing their own ageneral at a and refusing to fully accept mueller's no conclusion finding. take a look. >> you accept the conclusion there was no criminal conspiracy. >> i accept that conclusion for now. but there's a need for continuing investigation. there are clearly offenses. >> impeachable offenses? >> there may be, there may be censurable offenses. >> do you accept the central counsel's conclusion on that point? >> to a degree. but, again, we need more information. >> i believe impeachable offenses have been committed and i believe it's worthwhile to put in history's files what this man has done and impeach him. the base wants impeachment, they want it badly. >> that was mr. cohen who i had the pleasure of serving with in congress. wow. and it gets worse, because 2020
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candidate senator elizabeth warren is joining the impeachment chorus tweeting the house should initiate impeachment proceedings against the president of the united states, end quote. echoing her are congresswoman rashida talib all despite the findings of no criminal wrongdoing by the president. joining me for reaction is sarah carter and congressman mike turner of ohio and andy biggs of arizona. to the three of you, thank you for joining us here. i want to start with mike turner, you're in ohio but you're also on the intel committee. they're singing the tune of impeachment. what's your reaction to that? >> this is part of the process of trying to delegitimize a republican president. they did it with george bush's election where they alleged they colluded with his brother governor of florida. they took that to the supreme court. then now with trump, they said
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they stole the election and hillary clinton funded material to get surveillance over the trump campaign. but, you know, in the heartland right here in day ton, ohio the the headline that hit everybody's doorstep today was no collusion with russia. that's got a big impact. the presidential tweet, that's the headline. it will make it difficult for people like adam shift going around saying there is collusion. now they're seeing their shift. now they want to go from collusion to saying they want to go after the president because of his opposition for their efforts to pursue him for crimes he didn't commit. i don't think people will buy it. they'll take the four words with no collusion with russians to be the end of it. >> sarah, i want to get your impact on this. senator warren, she wants to have impeachment. how will it go? >> i don't think it will go
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well. it will backfire. it will backfire on the democrats. the american public is sick and tire of this. they know now based on this report, no collusion, no obstruction. now you're hearing in your own report that even dodd mcgann, his story changed multiple times, president trump's former lawyer and there was a section in the report that specifically stated that his story was confusing. so, as far as the obstruction is concerned, there's no obstruction there. this is coming from -- it's -- you know, from elizabeth warren who was basically called out for lying on her card and calling herself an american indian. and we know that she's not. this is going to backfire on her. this is going to backfire on the democrats. adam shift is another one that's been very much pushing this conclusion illusion narrative consistently at president trump. and i think the american public is going to get tired of that. and i'm going to tell you something else, the most
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important thing i believe jason is that coming up when the investigation start on the part of william barr and when the investigations are revealed that michael horowitz is conducting over the past year, it's really going to backfire on them. >> andy biggs, you're a congressman on the east side of the phoenix valley there in mesa, arizona, an important state in the 2020 politics. the democrats you serve in the house, do they really love mike pence that much? do they want to be the president? or are on this crazy train to who knows wherewithal of this impeachment talk. >> they're on the crazy train. there's a significant number that are skittish and wisely so. they don't want an impeachment process. it will hurt them. the 40 districts we call swing districts that support trump that may be a democrat picked up the last term election. but nadler subpoenaing these documents and he's going forward, i think they're doing a market test to see if they're able to keep the middle that they're hoping to get by if they
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go to a full impeachment. they want to do a full impeachment. they think the base is ginned up enough to do it. but there are wise heads or politically minded heads when pelosi or stenny hoyer is saying, hey, this is going to hurt us if we do it. you know nadler, you know shift, they want to go forward and test it to see if we can stay in there. >> you had more than 60 democrats sign up for impeachment before it cuts through the report. congressman turner, you serve an important role on the intel committee. you see day in and day out behind closed doors. how does he have any credibility. i don't understand how he has security clearance and why he's on the committee at this point. >> well, it is very troubling, certainly all of the republicans on the committee called for his removal as chair of the committee, not just because of the misstatements that he's made where he's come out and he said he saw evidence of collusion where there was no evidence of collusion. now the mueller report, without
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question, settles that issue. but the issue is he is using the committee solely for the purposes of suing president trump with his vendetta against him. the adversaries are north korea, china, russia, and iran. we need to look at the way they're impacting our national security. as long as adam shift believes the greatest threat to this country is donald trump, our adversaries is getting a pass and our committee needs to get back to work. >> you're right. there's a huge opportunity cost by not focusing on other true threats to this nation. i got 30 seconds left. sara carter, where does this go next? >> we know where it's going. it's going to deep investigations to the genesis of the origination of this investigation into president trump. i believe there will be indictments. i believe people will be held accountable for this. and that's why i think, jason, that any type of impeachment proceedings or hearings of that nature are just going to backfire on the democrats. >> congressman biggs, last word.
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do we actually see people in handcuffs held accountable for the genesis and the abusing the fisa court system? >> we'd better. because the american people demand that. and i -- if we don't, it's just another crime in history. >> thank you all three of you for joining us on this beautiful friday night. up next, the main stream media is having a hard time letting go of their favorite hoax. coming up, we'll show you how some are now foaming at the mouth over impeachment fantasies. that and more on this special edition of "hannity" continues. we humans are strange creatures. other species avoid pain and struggle. we actually... seek it out. other species do difficult things because they have to. we do difficult things. because we like to. we think it's... fun. introducing the all-new 2019 ford ranger built for the strangest of all creatures.
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>> welcome back to the special edition of "hannity," following the mueller report, democrats were not the only ones clammering for impeachment. their good friends in the main
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stream media were obsessed. according to cnn, msnbc, and the broadcast networks mentioned the word impeachment 309 times over a 24-hour period. as we predicted, there are no apologies from the media mob for the relentless 2 1/2 year proliferation of a hoax. instead, they're doubling down. watch this. >> this is leaving the legal realm and now entering this realm of morality, ethics, imteachability. >> guessing, just throwing it out there quite differently than attorney general barr does. >> road map to impeachment proceedings. maybe more. >> congress can decide whether or not it's criminal conduct. in other words, perhaps there's enough evidence here to start impeachment proceedings. >> while the mueller report could be a road map for impeachment. >> and laying the body on the tracks to -- to sort of push donald trump away from some of the actions, it almost certainly would have led to his impeachment. >> if democrats decide what they
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read in the mueller report equals a high crime, they can move forward in the house with impeachment. you have a presidential candidate, a serious presidential candidate telling them to do that. >> they wonder why nobody is watching over there. joining us now is trump 2020 campaign national press secretary, kay leigh mcer inny, fox news contributor doug shone and tom fenton. thank you all three of you for joining us. doug, i want to start with you. you're on set in new york. your background is a democratic party. >> i am a democrat. >> this drum beat going on with the media and the high profile players like elizabeth warren, where does it take them to the election. >> it takes them towards defeat. this is silly. i mean, people want to hear discussion of the issues. health care, immigration, education, income and equality. the president -- >> they're making a choice not to do that. they want to talk all things trump all the time. >> right, by doing that, by
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talking impeachment, they're going do what was done in 1998 by the republicans, overplaid their hands when i was working with bill clinton. all it's going to do is help donald trump get re-elected. huge mistakes by the democrats and their friends in the media. >> kay leigh, you're tied to the trump campaign, obviously. what are you hearing in the heartland. what do you think real americans think of when they see this. the special prosecutor says that collusion they were talking about, yeah, there wasn't anything out there. how does that play in america? >> yeah, in the heartland, they want legislating, not investigating. they don't want impeachment. every single poll shows it. doug is spot on. but you have certain democrats, 2020 contenders, we heard from two, who are so desperate because they have flailing campaigns that the media is not giving enough attention to, they're willing to divide the company, to destabilize the government, and call for impeachment. that's what we saw with liz warren. we have the aiding and abetting
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for from the main stream media that waits for the talking points and saying, quote, road map to impeachment. they're aiding and abetting the 2020 democrats. it's not what the american people want. they do so at their own peril. >> judicial watches. you were able to do things in the judicial watch that i as chairman of the oversight committee in congress couldn't do which is sat on one case, good for you. this is, though, the playbook of the resistance movement, right? they are doing things right out of their playbook, the democrats, aren't they? >> right. and it's all part of one giant effort that began during the presidential campaign. the baton was handed off to the mueller operation. and the anti-trump partisan, the mueller team, wrote a report that they knew would generate interest and impeachment. and so the democrats happily take up the baton. all to distract from the fact that they were caught in what
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was in essence criminal activity targeting the president. making up false allegations and elicitly using the fbi and d.o.j. to spy on the campaign based on the false allegations. you know, i -- i think an impeachment fight might be very interesting because the president is going to be able to present witnesses and it would be good to hear what congress knew and who in congress was cooperating and colluding with fusion gps, with peter struck. and some of the moore operation in terms of pushing these false information -- these this false information out to their friends in the media. >> doug, this creates quite the predicament. because democrats say they suddenly have this new awareness for openness and transparency and they're pounding their fists for it. they didn't do that in the eight years i served in the congress with barack obama. but they may get that with the inspector general's report. they may get that with barr
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looking at this further. then what do the democrats do? >> i mean, my point would be i don't know what the facts are about what the fbi did vis-a-vis hillary clinton fusion gps. i'd like to know. and i think the american people have the right to know. let's get all of the facts out there and then have it as an issue in the campaign for people to decide. especially if the democrats push impeachment. >> no, this is where they jump so quickly and so fast into the impeachment lane. now they're caught in this place. kay leigh going to 2020, the media is already signaled that they're just going to continue to pound on donald trump. how in the world does he get that message out? i mean, he's done it in the past, how does he get that message out? >> he stays focused on achieving for the american people. they feel it in their everyday lives when you see wages growing twice as fast for those in the bottom half of the income spectrum, all of the extraordinary economic metrics we talk about all the time on
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the show. you can't change the reality of what people feel. but i will say, the media negativity. this collusion of words and attacking president trump, i think it serves him well in the long run, it exposes the left and the bias of the main stream media and serves as a tail wind for the president. keep on being negative, main stream media. people see through it when you say the word "impeachment" baselessly 309 times in one day. >> i got 30 seconds here. contrast how hillary clinton was treated versus the way donald trump was treated. >> irks it's remarkable. well, the fact is hillary clinton was treated the way she was treated and one of the ways they covered it up, the vehicle for covering it up was to distract the public with the attack on president trump. it's two sides of the same coin. and with regards to impeachment in terms of the corruption under the obama add administration, i half jokingly say, but we should remember who's responsible for
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this targeting of president trump. barack obama could still be impeached. >> thank you all, three of you tonight, kay leigh, doug, tom, i really do appreciate it. coming up next, we have the latest from the smollett scandal in chicago and the update from the house of horrors case, oh, an awful thing. two parents were convicted of torturing 12 of their children for years. that and more in this special edition of "hannity" continues.
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>> welcome back to this special edition of "hannity, justice in america". there are new developments in the jussie smollett hate crime
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scandal. >> fox news can confirm three executives in the office of kim foxx are either resigning or no longer employed. the executives say it has nothing to do with the jussie smollett case. but the timing is fascinating. begin with the most notable departure, chief ethics officer april parry who resigned april 15 to work in the private sector. she advised kim foxx to recuse herself from the smollett investigation. foxx remained heavily involved in the case, by texting her chief deputy justice about dropping the charges against smollett -- quoting just because we can charge something doesn't mean we should. along with parry, the director of the office of conviction and integrity unit, mark muller moved on resigning the day before the charges against smollett were dropped. he said leaving had zero to do with the case. and kyra ellis is no longer with the state's attorney. no reason was given for her
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exit. meantime here in california, david and louise turpin, the parents in the so-called house of horrors case were sentenced to life in prison for severely neglecting and abusing 1 of their 13 children. the -- 12 of the 13 children. they kept the kids shackled to their beds, allowed them to shower once a year. beat them regularly, fed them one meal a day. the 17-year-old daughter escaped the home by jumping out a window and calling 911. during sentencing, some of the children read impact statements detailing the abuse with one daughter saying, quote, life may have been bad, but it made me strong. my parents took my whole life from me, but now, i'm taking my whole life back. one of the children also asked for leniency for the parents saying they did their best to raise them. the turpins also read statements apologizing for their horrific behavior. they'll be eligible for parole after 25 years. jason?
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>> trace, thank you. that's hard to watch and hard to hear about. joining us with the reaction attorney and fox news contributor emily campano and fox news contributor rachael campos duffy. my favorite duffy for the record there. rachael, it's hard to transition from, you know, in talking about this house of horrors. what -- what -- how do we learn from this? what do we do with this? >> well, first of all, 25 years to life seems like a good sentence for them. and it's sad to see that the kids have compassion for their parents after all that's happened and a year later thriving and surviving. i think there are some lessons for us in the general public. these were 13 kids living in a house and yet the neighbors never saw them outside. and i think that's kind of a red flag. all of us like to be good neighbors who aren't intrusive or nosey. but if there are 13, i know, i have eight. my neighbors hear them if i want
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them to or not. that kind of a red flag when it involves children, we need to check on it, ask someone to check in on that. there are lessons for us as neighbors and citizens in protecting the children that live around us. >> no, i think that -- yeah, i think -- >> that's a strange and awful situation. >> it's a great message, a great mom to a lot of lovely kids. emily, was justice properly served? i don't know what you do with somebody who destroys these kids, 12 and 13, in 25 years, they're up for parole. >> i will say that at the time the turpins accepted the plea agreement in february, the da made the point is, look, what they received the sentencing equivalent to first degree murder. that's appropriate that the fact they've taken the lives of these children. there's that argument. and given that these children testifying read their victim impact statements, that's partly why that's an argument for accepting the plea to begin with. the kids wouldn't have to do it
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or prolong their pain. just goes to the fact there's a level of catharsis associated with that. in 25 years when these parents are up for parole, these kids who will then be grown adults more than they are now will read their impact statements again. there's no way they will be actually parole in 25 years. >> i need to transition now to the jussie smollett case. rachael, i want to ask you, you have people fleeing this office. and what do we make of what fox is doing and not doing. how do we make sense of it? >> we've got to see what the ig, they're investigating why this case was dismissed. clearly the cops thought they had jussie smollett dead to right and they're angry and should be. this is a case where he perpetrated a hate crime on donald trump's voters by accusing them falsely in this hoax. and i think that's why this case matters, a lot of people, not just the cops, are very angry that jussie smollett got away
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with this. i know i'm one of these people. i want to know why this is dismissed and why possibly michelle obama's former chief of staff, a lawyer for jussie smollett might be involved in pressuring kim foxx who said she was going to recuse herself and in the end never did. >> it's so important for the inspector general there to look at that. but emily, with given your legal background, what do you see happening there in this mystifying case out of chicago. >> hopefully transparency and exposure. when kim foxx was elected, he wanted to make transparency and ethics ironically a hallmark of her service. there wasn't an officer inscribed in that office until she got the position. so ironic to me that now everything is falling and opening up i want to point out that as a long time federal attorney and managing attorney and managing director of a top ten federal agency, there was never a time i texted or used government phones to text back and forth with my team and
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certainly not about anything that would be including case strategy or something as sensitive as this. so, to me, it's shameful, not only the volume of information and communication that they engaged in after her colloquial recusal, but also the level of mockery she made of the chicago police department in those texts. so, again, i hope the ig uncovers some type of closure for us as does the federal government, their investigation. >> thank you for joining us on this friday night. more of this special edition of "hannity: justice in america" after the break. stay with us. feel the clarity... of non-drowsy claritin... and relief from symptoms caused by over... 200 outdoor and indoor allergens. like those from pollen, pets and dust. because new memories start with dusting off old ones. feel the clarity and live claritin clear. not to worry about changing their minds in retirement. you may have always imagined your dream car as something fast. then one day you decide it just needs to be
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oh. >> welcome back to this special edition of "hannity: justice in america". that's all the time we have left this evening. thanks for being with us. we hope y'all have a happy easter and a happy passover. shawn will be back on monday. the ingraham angle is up next.
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is >> i'm laura ingraham this friday. welcome to the special edition of "the ingraham angle," the mueller fallout from washington tonight. even though the special counsel found no collusion, no obstruction, a large contingent on the left are already banging the impeachment drum. the president's deputy press secretary hogan gidley is here with the white house's response. plus, she's been hitting it out of the park, kim stratsel is here. her new "wall street journal" piece methodically breaks down how the mueller report reveals a special counsel team obsessed with taking trump out. she tells us why the president should feel