it was hours before california highway patrol helicopter finally found them. rescuers crediting the lifejackets they had on saying they played a vital role to keep them alive. >> we are glad you spent your evening with us, good night from washington. i am shannon bream. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." the holiest day of the christian calendar turned to tragedy yesterday as you know i sri lanka. the coordinated attack, suicide bombers struck three catholic churches and hotels across the at least 290 people were murdered and hundreds more were injured. the attackersaf were affiliated with a local terror group. there were radical muslims, their motives were religious. their targets were christians. none of that is speculation. it is true. maybe because it is so true and so obviously true nobody in bvauthority wanted to say it out

loud so instead they went to great lengths to avoid the clear language. the attacks on easter worshipers are an attack on humanity tweeted barack obama. hillary clinton used the same phrase. "i am praying for everyone affected by the horrific attack and travelers in sri lanka. easter worshipers." why don't you say christians? nobody worships easter. there is a reason, of course, euphemisms are never actual. our leaders believe christians are the problems, the dangerous ones who can't be trusted. tell them the truth and they might go crazyzynd and organizea new crusade. march on jerusalem. you never know with christians. just tonight the "the washington post" ran a story with this headline, "sri lanka church bombing anger in west." as if you have to be a nazi to be upset about church bombings. that is why our leaders ignore the persecutions of christians around the world when u.s. policy contributes to that persecution. o

and it does, they say nothing about it. less than 20 years after we overthrew saddam hussein, three quarters of iraq's one thriving christian population is gone. they have either been murderedey isis in some cases or they have been driven out of the p country as refugees. in syria christians have lived under generations under protection of the bashar al-assad family. it doesn't make it any less true, it is true and you can talk to the hundreds of thousands of christians who fled the country since the u.s. began supporting the dismissal bashar al-assad.th if you want to know details. nobody in the media ever asks their opinion and nobody cares. nobody cares that so many of our allies in the middle east, countries that receive billions repress christianity. afghanistan for example receives billions from us every year. fowhy? so we can turn it into belgium. right now in afghanistan converting to christianity carries a death sentence if you are muslim, the same is true in saudi arabia. both countries backed by the

united states. in egypt conversion is restricted although it doesn't carry death, polls show that most of the public wishes it did. where is our state department? they spend a lot of time looking at the human rights ofon peoplen countries we can pronounce. they ignore it. one was the last time the u.s. pushed another country to country christians better? in some cases it's pretty easy to do that, we could demand that the countries who are dependent on us implement full freedom of religion before we give them any more usaid. why would we do that? because we are afraid of being criticized by "the washington post." the founder of pulliam and the author of a radical, my journey out of extremism. and he joins us tonight. we are happy to have you. explain if the thinking behind not just being straightforward with the public about an event like the one we saw yesterday in sri lanka. >> i am a muslim and i express

my deepest condolences to christians around the world due to this and after this horrific terrorist attack in sri lanka that claimed nearly 300 lives. many don't's know this, but i am married to anal american from a catholic family and it's why it's so important for me personally to make this point. unfortunately, our leaders and in particular some of the political leaders that you have named our suffering from what i believe is an intellectual and moral retreat from our enlightenment values and also a level of political cynicism involved here as well. the intellectual side for, a while now whether when barack obama was president or even after they have been unable -- i call it the voldemort effect. they have been unable to name extremism by name and jihadist terrorism, a violent manifestation because i

genuinely believeic that a biggr threat to their political perspective is white supremacycy and far right extremism and then of course there is the pragmatic political side of things. they are pandering to a certain vote base and i think that by naming these things even if they wanted to, it would trouble with their base and that's not how i operate and i think any human being should operate. what happened in new zealand was a terrorla attack and what has happened in sri lanka is a jihadist hottest terror attack and it moves us all to speak plainly about this so we can address these problems. >> tucker: what does that say about how they feel about their own populations and the supposed democracy? they can't be straightforward. most americans can't handle the idea of knowing that islamic extremists did this and still, not hate all muslims? they have a low opinion of their own population. >> "the washington post" that

you referenced, they fear a far right backlash and i have read the article in question and it selects only those who are from the right of the political spectrum and their reactions to the terror attack in sri lanka. it is very easy to do that by the way, lazy bait journalism. i advised fellow journalist note to do that. after the new zealand terror attack i could have said that the east fears a backlash from jihadists and i could have hand selected and had only reactions to the new zealand attack to try to portray the fact that only the jihadists and islamists were upset. it is a dishonest way to show that. i think sadly too many people play politics with tragedy and they allow for their own framework of their own bias to influence how they view human tragedy and then they use that to peddle their own political narrative.

weke should all be as consistent as possible. >> tucker: and stop lying, that makes everyone cynical and it causes the you fear. thank you. a wise voice as always. nina shea is a religious freedom expert at the hudson institute here in washington and she joins us tonight. i would say that it undersells what you do. you are the most consistent and the most knowledgeable experts on the persecution of christians around the world. >> thank you thank you for focusing on this issue. >> tucker: give us an overview of the picture? >> let me just say that first this was a message not just to those christians who were attacked and killed over the weekend over easter weekend, but it was a message that there is basically a war on christianity from a certain segment of the muslim population. the muslim extremist population. we are seeing that intensify over the last decade in places

like egypt where sam tadros who was an analyst there, he estimates there are about 500 church attacks in the last couple of years. these occurred on palm sunday, a coordinated attack a couple ofof years ago. on christians in december around christmas time at the seat of st. mark's cathedral. i was just there and saw that site. it is heartbreaking. it happens quite often. >> tucker: where is united states state department? >> it is not saying enough. the president of egypt tends to go after the bombing attacks that isis does but there are extremist muslims in the local neighborhood that are attacking churches with impunity and have been for quite a while a while in egypt.hi about 10% of the populations are christians there. nigeria estimated 900 church

attacks in a five year period. these are again happening on christmas, on easter, it doesn't matter what stripe of christianity you are, across the board. >> tucker: powerful churches for the united states, rich church is for sure, powerful clergymen, i don't hear this issue addressed. why is that? >> i don't think people are aware of it. some of them are afraid that they will get retribution by the extremists, but they don't talk about itlk in those countries. there are varied reasons why people don't talk about it but the short term solution is security. we need to promote that. in fact the united states did give a quiet warning to sri lanka that churches would be attacked if they didn't act. and they did not heed it.st we need to elevate this. >> tucker: we have given billions to afghanistan but youn

would thinknk that would at leat buy us, the majority christian country a change in the law that would make it a death penalty offense to convert.. why would we fund a government like that? >> while we had our troops there they broke the lease in the last church of the country and closed it. we don't. we sell ourselves short. we don't ever divide christians. we always have a higher priority regarding tariffs but we don't understand there is a link between the two. the weakness of those christians feeds this. it makes them a soft target. the government's don't feel like any pressure coming from us. they feel pressure coming from one side, the extremists. >> tucker: that is such a smart point, there is a link. thank you very much. the mueller report came out last week, no collusion, no crime, democrats are still talking about impeachment.

will they do it? owwe talked to someone who might know the answer, after the break. ♪

♪ ♪ >> tucker: democrats have now had a full weekend to read the mueller report to lovingly savor every word, to digest it. does it have, and this is the key question, from date was the key question,ti the crimes we he been hearing about for two years that would justify hiring a special prosecutor and after having done that it would

justify impeachment? democrats are going to have to make a decision on that. lawmakers and presidential candidates are ignoring the reports actual conclusion that looks like they may be demanding impeachment anyway. >> i think when you look at this report you can see that there is enough information there, not only on obstruction of justice but also on collusion or conspiracy whatever you want to call it to move forward with impeachment on this president. >> we are not farther away from impeachment. if anything you read this document and you figure out how we will hold this president accountable. >> do think this is impeachable? >> yeah, i do.d >> i think it would be perfectly reasonable for them to open up impeachment proceedings. >> it is time for impeachment.

>> tucker: you heard it. it is time for impeachment. he joins us, thank you for coming on. when does impeachment start? >> i have gone both ways myself and here's what we know from the mueller report. people can make fun of it, we know indisputably that donald trump won with the help of a hostile foreign power and that he knew he was getting that help and he actually solicited the help. he did nothing to alert authorities to it and he has done zero to keep it from happening again. >> tucker: you answered your own question. when is that starting? we have been waiting for three years to take it away from him,. the nomination and then the electoral college and then we will impeach him. years have gone by and we have the report, let's stop messing around. one is impeachment?

>> you only go forward with any grand jury with an impeachment which is the accusation, not a trial by virtue of having the evidence and thatth will be havg don jr.. and roger stone come forward. >> tucker: it is not like we will learn story changing facts from the reductions. >> there were a lot of things that mueller didn't get. >> tucker: i'm being disingenuous, we both know he is not being impeached,we both know that democrats want to have it both ways where they can pretens it's serious enough to merit impeachment but they don't want that because they will lose and be punished by voters. >> i disagree with that. the democrats won five seats, george w bush wrote that about how he will have a cleaner

white house and i would say jimmy carter to a certain extent with the nixon impeachment. >> tucker: why not do it? >> the question on whether it is a right or wrong thing. >> tucker: you can't tell the public for three years that the guy is a nazi. he's a trader. he's working with a hostile power. every single day for years we have heard this but we can't impeach him because we can't convince the senate? >> that as a whole another thing. the fact of the matter is the house will bring these people in and maybe they will get access to all of these boxes of evidence and maybe not and maybe they have to basically bring everybody else under oath. is it a waste of time? if you take the watergate hearings and if you think they were a waste of time then you would think these are too. most people in the public, personally i was. >> tucker: i don't think this

is watergate and i don't think in the end anything will happen at all and i think what democrats a are actually doing s missing an opportunity to at least think through how to help the country in some tangible way before they get beat inevitably once more in a presidential race. that is where we are going. >> worse than watergate in a sense that there is not just a hostile foreign power but donald trump laughing about it, it is almost an indication for -- invitation for china and north korea to do the same thing. >> tucker: russia is not a threat to us. >> if you think their countries that are there and looking the other way do nothing, what is going to stop china? >> tucker: the most anti-china president is in charge of that? >> he is inviting it. next time help him if it works for him.

>> tucker: amazing. herman cain a candidate to serve under the federal reserve, he didn't withdraw because he was incompetent orr cynical because he was shown as a unsuitable pick, he dropped his bid because he was blackmailed. into doing that. attorney gloria teamed up and said they would expose him to public humiliation unless he withdrew his name. >> if asked at the united states senate banking committee hearing, he will also be willing hto identify certain parts of s body to cooperate her testimony. this testimonyra will not be necessary if mr. cain withdraws his name from the vetting b process and or the president decides not to formally nominate him. >> tucker: jason nichols is a professor of african-american studies at maryland. thank you for coming on.

you said pretty clearly you are not a fan of herman cain and you don't think he should have gotten this job? you don't support him. >> i do not. >> tucker: whatt do you think given that what just happened to him? >> he says that it was about his pay cut or something, the reason he withdrew his name. if you take what gloria just did and i believe gloria allred has done some positive things in her career in terms of giving voice to people who are voiceless by doingca things like that actualy undermines the movement, undermines when people like tarana burke are doing work to give voice to women. >> tucker: to me looks like blackmail. we will show, we will depict your genitals if you don't do what we want you to do which is pull your name and he clearly caved understandably. do you want to live in a society where people want to be blackmailed like that? >> i agree with that. there were credible allegations

against him so we have to state that. >> tucker: allegations of what?e >> a woman said that herman cain had done some things that were really sexual misconduct.at of but the case -- >> tucker: the one i read about said it was consensual? >> that is the problem. when you conflate something that is consensual with abuse, you .inflate that and that is the bg problem here. what they did to herman cain in that regard saying that we will expose what your genitals look like, either way, that they would that is totally wrong. i would agree with you that gloria allred is actually undermining this and i can tell you that i actually believe that this could be used against women in the future.

>> tucker: you think? >> this could be very problematic. this is actually going to hurt women. men don't get body shamed like women do. some dude who had an affair with kamala harris or liz warren is going to say, kind of threaten her in the same way and this is really problematic. again, the other thing -- >> tucker: it hurts men which is every bit as bad as hurting women because human beings are equal. >> i will say one other thing. it seems unfortunately for the right price you have someone like lisa bloom was is the daughter who supported harvey weinstein and was talking about putting things out against rose and other people who were fighting for the me too movement that was so positive. she was actually supporting harvey weinstein for a while. >> tucker: she was getting paid. obviously. >> it is really troubling. >> tucker: why do we take them

seriously? they wouldn't exist without the media giving them airtime and they say they are advocates for women. they are advocates for themselves. they are totally dishonest. >> i want to believe there is a some sincerity there. >> tucker: [laughs] neyou are a good man. >> i think they're making a big mistake in what they are doing. >> tucker: i don't think they care but i admire your high hopes for them. t thank you. a year ago the creepy porn lawyer was traveling aboard a private jet that was his, how did he afford that? we know the answer and we will tell you tonight. plus we have footage shot by one of our producers who shows in pretty shocking detail what is happening inin one of this country's greatest cities. ♪

>> tucker: the creepy lawyer has simple old fashion taste. he is happiest inside his cnn studio but when he is traveling he likes to travel in style on board his own private jet. how can he afford that? is ambulance chasing that lucrative? not unless you rob your clients including an nba player ex-girlfriend. lexus gardner had hired the lawyer was aided in getting a $3 million settlement but according to prosecutors he immediately stole 2 million from the settlement to buy a jet. the client received less than eight tenths of that. keep in mind cnn told us he was a presidential contender, maybe he is trying to get used to traveling private. virtually everything you hear repeated on television, if they repeated enoughed probably untr.

porters are racists. we are stronger the less we have in common the other people, kentucky high schoolers, journalists in d.c. arein warris for the oppressed. it is all fake. these are lies and they repeat them over and over again and punish people who dissent because the lies are power. they decided to fight back in the most radical way by telling the truth no matter what people think about it. a piece for "the new york post," no matter what they tell you, man cannot give birth, only women can. they join us tonight. thank you for coming on.oi i guess this is an obvious point but how much the world has changed in five years where women give birth and men don't is considered some radical or hateful statement? how did that happen? >> it was a concerted movement in the trans-movement which has sought to radically redefine the relationship between what each really is. the fact that men and women have

different chromosomes till the point, they are different and we know that. because it was a tiny minority of people who feel discomfort in their bodies, they have set out on this totalitarian effort to ask each of us to say, men can have babies and women can have penis's. it is a bizarre idea but we have gone to this point and as you said, if you describe for us -- >> tucker: that is the thing. i think most americans are happy to let people believe whatever they want t to believe. i live in my own fantasy half the time, it is fine. do you know what i mean? the idea that you get to impose your fantasy on other people and then get them fired or crushed if they won't play along, that is totalitarian. >> it is kind of like winston at the end of 1984 where you have to say that he is holding up in torture and holding up five fingers when he is only holding

up four. if you say five he will give you pain. we are not being dispatched to the gulags but the pain comes in pressure with your career, pressure on your public presence if you try to speak up against this. t at the bottom of this is the desire for radical autonomy. autonomy to the level of i can also redefine what it means to be a man or woman. we define autonomy that way, for me to be able to experience my fullest autonomy you have to say your name is sabrina and that i am a woman and vice versa. it is this idea of autonomy pushed for such an extent where it becomes authoritarian. >> tucker: it eliminates my autonomy. i have to play along. by the way, i don't think we are overstating the extent of the repression. you and i have the only two jobs where we can have this job in public without getting fired.

if you worked at some investment bank, some insurance company, you will get fired for saying this. >> you absolutely would. it includes lots of women, we now have a lot of women's athletics being dominated by people who have the raw physical capabilities of male bodies because they have that. now through thisot idea of men being able to become pregnant, we are reframing pregnancy. something since time and memorial have been bound up for what it means to be a woman. somethingou you and i could nevr experience and now that is becoming a male experience. >> tucker: i don't know how that empowers women and where are america's biology teachers when you need them? i'm not taking a political position here, but here are the facts. >> there are a few. again, they are distant voices. the great psychologist of his

generation at johns hopkins is there. the ideological movement has so made inroad in the medical profession where with professions with the dominant consensus, the biological sex, the reproductive organs that you are born with is not the basis for determining your gender.th it is not just in the public sphere, among psychiatrists and so forth. this has become the norm and it is your power politics. >> tucker: only rich countries can afford to be this decadent. thank you very much. >> thank you for having me. overwhelmingly speaking of kids, americans want to have them. they want to have more children than they have and this was one core problems in our society and instead of fixing this politicians tell us we should bring in new people in order to keep our population stable. elizabeth warren said she would be giving a $50,000 student loan

amnesty to all college grads. here's thed proposal, why not l forgive all the loans ofhe americans who get married and have kids? it might help. why is that crazy? the president of concerned women of america. thank you for coming on. most americans want to have more children than they can afford. why is this not the basic eypromise every politician runng for every office is making? if elected i will help you have as many kids as you want. >> i don't know how that works out economically but we have toi address this. it has implications for elderly, social security and new markets forr corporations. if we have less children, if the population continues to decline, we are not at replacement rate. that is 2.1 at 1.7. we will not retire nearly as soon and we will have to work harder. american women say the vast

majority want to have children and women with minor children, 60% say they want to spend more time with them. if they had their ideal situation, 60% would only workth part time. 19% would stay at home with their kids. >> tucker: why wouldn't a political party say here is a huge group of people who want something deeply, why don't we help them provide it? >> the republican party needs to step up and lead on this. we are trying p to do more, someone worked with ivanka trump to work on that. text credit from $1,000 to $2,000. it should be more. we are talking through policies now that would allow woman to dip into their social security ahead of time while they are at home during family leave, with their little babies and then just delay getting it later or less on the back end. we have to really think through

this. we need to talk to corporations. we want more t possibility asal women. >> tucker: should we be shooting for like six years? >> we need to find proposals that give more flexibility to womanng and that is a broader conversation including corporate america and removing all the many regulations that stop us from having this industry. because of high taxes on the world we live in we are a two income family is the norm in most people feel like they need that extra income. many women want to work at some level. let's help them be flexible and let's think of policies that give them the maximum amount of time that they want to be at home with their kids or dadle wants to be at home with the kids. >> tucker: i don't know why it never occurs to anyone. there are lectures on the socialism or you can be an entrepreneur, how about i want to raise my kids? why is that hard?

>> i talk to them and all the time and they say i am just a mom. you have to change that. there is no such thing as just a mom. that is the most important job and the hardest job i've had. >> tucker: there are nine unhappy people who write our social policy. no more listening to them. psalms kids are gift from the lord.d. >> tucker: facebook knows more about you than your friends know, your parents know, probably that you know from yourself. they want to know more and they are trying to convince america to put cameras inside their own homes. even their bedrooms, is that a good idea? we will tell you after the break. 27 ♪

>> t >> shannon: faceboo >> tucker: facebook is the world's most popular social media network. you might think the world's billion users are its customers but they are not. they on their personal information are the product that facebook sells to its advertisements. that is the actual arrangement.u in a conference, they want to be ceo of facebook has more data about what people want to do online than anyone else in the world. he may have the most information but he wants more data. facebook is now accusing slick advertisements to convince you to put new more cameras inside your own home. watch. >> happy mother's day. it is so good to see you.

you hang out with the moms of other famous people? serena's mom, snoop dogg's mom, am i in trouble? >> there is nothing wrong. come on over here and let us look at you. >> tucker: the former advisor to mark zuckerberg, and author joins us tonight. thank you for coming on. the looks from that at that illogical successful people are allowing mark zuckerberg to put surveillance cameras inside their homes.pl should i do the same? >> i would not recommend it, i would not recommend it to anyone watching that show. he made the point correctly before. facebook is the business of surveillance. they gather all the data they can, not just the stuff they put into the system but they track us. they buy data from banks and creditso card processors and thy buy it from health and wellness applications and they buy it from our cellular carriers to tell where we are. they buy it all so so they can

create a data avatar for us and that as you say, that makes us not even the product, the fuel for their business model. >> tucker: that seems right.ei why is it that there is no skepticism in the media about this or any of the other -- kara swisher who covers technology for "the new york times" basically writes press releases. why does nobody push back ever? clear there is the beginning of a change but i think you are right. there is a default mechanism to trust tech. technology was something that made our lives better for 50 years and what happened with facebook, google and microsoft and amazon is they have taken advantage of trust and goodwill and they are starting to exploit that in a way that really takes away our choice. the business model they have built is really, they are trying to use data to take away uncertainty for advertisers, the problem isn't doing so they are

taking away the choices for us as the consumer. choice is what it is all about. there is a philosophical debate that has to happen and as you know, you've been an important part of, i'm trying to lead this debate. there are two points, you want to make the world more efficient and i want to have more liberty and more choices. i want to see which side wins. >> tucker: in this case, this amazon product, it pivots around the room following you and shooting footage of what is happening inside your home, your most private spaces.pe that is the creepiest thing. what happens to the data? how do we know that is secure and will be used against us? >> there is no reason we should be trusting and the same thing is true for alexa and google home and the other products that either listen to you or film in

your home. it is crazy. the notion we would let one of these things into our kitchen much less our office or our bedroom. right now there are no rules, all we have is the companies word. of course these things are vulnerable to hacking and the people who work there are vulnerable to all kinds of exploitation. my view is that we should stop all of these things and push back really hard. i want to go -- i'm saying to every single person who is running for office, whenever i'm on your air, we should ask the simple question, why is it legal for there to be a third party market with our personal data, without our involvement? why should they trade our financial data, or health data? why should google be allowed to scan our emails for their benefit? it is nuts. if they were the postal service they would get arrested. i think there has been no rules for too long and it's time to have some rules. >> tucker: the real threat is vladimir putin and russia! you makes some solid points.

great to see you. it is earth day and instead of cutting his own carbon footprint, he has a new plan. stop glass and steel buildings? what does it mean when you live in a country that can tell you what kind of buildings to build? what is happening on the streets of los angeles. when we come back. ♪

♪ >> tucker: the footage on your screen, the picture right there, was shot by one of our producers last week. we were in california all week in los angeles, supposedly one of the richest cities in the world and in some ways it is. but the video you are watching shows something else.

californians meandering poor, trash filled streets. right in downtown, homeless encampments on the sidewalks and blanketing downtown l.a. the footage starts at fifth street and san pedro and goes west. block after block, tent after tent. this is how the poor spent easter sunday in california. they weren't clustered on one single road, it wasn't like skid row. it was like many skid rows. it continued. it is america's second largest city. the encampments began just two blocks away from little tokyo, one of l.a's major tourist destinations. you might be wondering, with so many people priced out of local housing, few people are literally living in rvs, miles of rvs parked along the street. they are in tents, why wouldn't local leaders want to slow or stop the flow of new arrivals to get prices under control?

to open up new housing? they are doing the opposite. l.a. is a sanctuary city and as sanctuary state. they will denounce our borders an atrocity and that is an abomination. the poor in california are an afterthought, one of the reasons why they are multiplying. that's why when governor newsom tried to fight it, he flew to another country to do it with el salvador. the same people who want no limits on people who are moving here can't even how's the people who live here. today is earth day as you may know, that is a good thing foror the record. new york mayor de blasio size of the dirty city in the united states and enjoy taking his suv convoy all over the city, or her taking a helicopter ride to the gym. don't worry, he has a plan for absolving his own guilt, restrict the behavior of. he wants to pass the green new which he says will ban the iconic skyscrapers, watch this. >> we will ban the classic

glass and steal skyscrapers which are incredibly inefficient. >> tucker: mark steyn joins us. i have mixed feelings. i'm going to get it right down on the floor i think all of the creeps who destroyed the world's landscape with worker housing and the t steel, they should be punished. i am against steal and glass but i don't think that he wants to replace it with something better and that is my suspicion. >> i'm with you. i am opposed to that. on aesthetic grounds. i am horrified at the talk that they might be i.m. pei-ing up the new roof at the cathedral in paris.s. i am with you. i'm with you on aesthetic grounds but i don't want to ban it on climate grounds, whiches i think is just ridiculous, even on earth day. after what you've just showed on the streets of los angeles,sa perfect reminder that climate change is essentially a boutique

issue. it is almost like an accessory for western liberal politicians to flaunt how much they care while actually doing nothing about the people in the jurisdictions for which they are responsible. >> tucker: it couldn't reallyfo be clearer, could it? why wouldn't you take earth day which at least theoretically i support. i love the outdoors. i went fishing this morning.wh it's really important to be outside i think. why wouldn't you take this opportunity to clean up the actual earth? starting how about at city hall? why wouldn't you do that? >> you are looking at it all wrong. earth day is about flying a politician in to do the last bit of tree planting that several of his staff and an environmental activist have been spending the whole day working on. i live in a town in new hampshire that is 95% tree covered. we have the climate change

fever. we need to get it back to 98% or the planet will die. i don't know where that 3% went i think they were all used to print transcripts of the mother report i think they were all used to print transcripts of the mueller report. that is what earth day is about. doing something about the filth in your own city. it goes back to the way labor day has been transformed. ralabor day was partly, in its origins, about the order and cleanliness that man has imposed on a wild environment and as you see on the streets of los angeles, even that has been returned to a primitive and brutish state. >> tucker: what do you think the people who started america's conservation movement, john muir for example or teddy roosevelt, who protected millions of acres, what would they make of bill de blasio's variety of environmentalism where you never

go outside? >> i think that is where the whole bit about him traveling bt suv and everything comes in. i think they would see it as a class thing. in other words, what we have seen in the last 150 years has been the democratization of mobility. the things you had to be a second son of a grand duke to do, like travel wildly, are now available to everyone. leonardo dicaprio and al gore think, no, it is just those guys who need the suvs and the private planes. the rest of us should be standing outside waiting for a bus every 40 minutes on a cold winter's morning and instead of using a washer and dryer, we should be beating our clothes down by the river on the rocks. it is the most explicitdo expression of the new class politics that modern-day liberalism is imposing on us.

>> tucker: it is fascinating. that is why he has hiked the tolls to come into new york city because the idea is if you don't already live in manhattan, what are you doing here? it is snobbery. >> he says he has to go to his gym in brooklyn. to commune with the people so he's not in the bible. he is driven there in an suv by guys with reflector shades and telephone cords and if any member of the masses tried to get near him during his photo op at the gym they would be taken out by the s.w.a.t. team. it is this phony poser commuting with the people. and phony poser environmentalism, too. >> tucker: there is an awful lot of that. mark steyn, nothing phony about mark steyn. great to see you. >> great to seewe you. >> tucker: we are out of time

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