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>> sean: exactly. it's called the constitutional republic, rule of law. equal application, equal justice. we are getting there. let not your heart be troubled. we'll never be the destroy-trump-media mob. jason chaffetz and for laura ingraham tonight. congressman, good to see you again. great job, great numbers last night. >> jason: thank you. it's an honor to do it, good to sit in for you on friday but laura, rest assured, she'll be back tomorrow. is that a warning or a promotio promotion? [laughter] this is my lap tonight. thanks, sean. again, i'm jason chaffetz. i'm in for laura ingraham. this is "the ingraham angle" from washington. a big show on chapter nine. steve scalise is here. he will break down how last night's democratic town hall about how the left wants to take away your rights while restoring them with some of the western route society. the shocking difference between
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what we saw in sri lanka versus new zealand. dinesh d'souza is here. and alexandria ocasio-cortez says the broken v.a. health care system is just fine, doesn't need fixing. we'll ask an army veteran for her response. first, a new issue the 2020 dems have become radicalized over. who can vote? a terrorist? a child rapist? eight murder? everyone, according to the democratic front-runner. >> do you think that those convicted of sexual assault should have the opportunity to vote for politicians who could have a direct impact on women's rights? >> even if they are in jail, they are paying a price to society but that should not take away their inherent american right to participate in our democracy. >> your writing in opposition and against. >> i have written many 32nd opposition ads throughout my
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life. this will be just another one. but i do believe -- this is what i believe. do you believe in democracy. >> jason: wow. bernie wasn't alone, though. after some prodding, senator kamala harris, a former prosecutor, wanted to show her softer side. >> i agree that the right to vote is one of the very important components of citizenship. and it is something that people should not be stripped of needlessly. >> people who are convicted, and prison, like the boston marathon bomber, on death row, people who are convicted of sexual assault, they should be able to vote? >> i think we should have a conversation. >> jason: stripped of needlessly. she actually said that. now i can appreciate there is some injustice in the world but is the fact that a terrorist can vote on the list of your 100 things that you are worried about? here now, matt schlapp, chairman of the american conservative union and richard goodstein,
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attorney and former clinton advisor. gentlemen, i appreciate you being here. this is a true black-and-white issue. richard, you are always a good sport, i see you on fox all the time. i understand the democrats are having a rough few days, no collusion, there wasn't the obstruction they wanted, so let's have it to given felons voting rights. seriously, this is the democratic front-runner for the presidency, and this is what he's going to run on? >> i'm with mayor pete on this issue who was asked the same question, should the boston bomber have the right to vote from prison? the answer is no, period. he didn't go into a new description. first of all, this person asked the question, bernie did not introduce it, kamala harris did not introduce it. i will say this, some states actually give people in prison the right to vote. it becomes a state issue. i think it is loony. kamala harris -- >> jason: i agree with you that it's loony. >> kamala harris talked about a fundamental right by their summer a fundamental right for people not to commit crimes.
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when they do, they lose that right as they lose a lot of other rights. that is why i am saying, how much will this haunt bernie and kamala harris? we'll see. i think they have gone out the deep end on this one. >> jason: is like a really bad episode -- although i like to show -- of "parks and recreation," that they are actually talking about this. this is where the democrats want to go. two of the top three candidates, this is what they are supporting. >> i want to see an end to keep doing these town halls. this is the greatest thing in the world for terms of partners. we have more material in the town house and we ever could have imagined. is not just getting felons in prison the right to vote. it's lowering the voting age to 16. it saying, we got to get rid of the electoral college so small states where you and i come from have no say in the president campaign. up to 25% of people in the prisons are here in this country illegally. we forget that please. will they be able to vote as well? the next up in all this is if
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you are in america for a certain number of years and not here legally, heck, let's let them vote. with the democrats want to do, it's all politics, do everything they can to run up numbers for their side. i i think it's disgusting for te american people. >> jason: of the house of representatives, the first bill that pelosi introduced was april called hr 1 and it was all about voting rights and trying to change the way we vote in america. >> there are things going on as far as people voting rights are concerned that even the three of us agree shouldn't happen. that is mainly what hr 1 was trying to do, and money in politics. >> jason: i have read that thing, there is nothing in that i believe that strengthens the american democracy and our republic as a whole. these candidates, kamala harris, she could have said no, and bernie sanders has authority, copies it out about this or taken this position, that is why that young person asked greg. >> my view with the following. when donald trump came down the
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escalator and talked about mexicans being rapist and criminals -- >> who are here illegally. >> is going to be someone of color, i think what they have in mind, people of color, it's going to be a terrorist -- one second. it's going to be a terrorist, it's going to be somebody that donald trump from now to election day is going to have as the other, and today commits this, tomorrow, do something else. >> can i just say, i think it's unfair to the american people that we fought the civil war, we passed three civil war amendments to the constitution, we've given women the right to vote, we have really been through the battles on who should vote in this country. i agree with you. there shouldn't be any voter suppression of anybody who is allowed to vote legally. the problem with for the democrats is doing it too many cases it is what they are trying to do is make us feel bad for my racial perspective in order to let people vote who actually should not vote. the reason why people are in prison should vote has nothing to do with race or shouldn't
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vote has nothing to do with race. it's a fact that they need to pay their debt to society and they have to lose these rights while they are in prison. don't make it about race. it's not about race. >> voter suppression typically happens to nonwhite people. look at georgia, 700,000 people kept up the voting rolls. >> that's not what this is about. these are people that are convicted. what color, race, -- >> it's wrong. the people who vote illegally including the people who aren't allowed to vote, including people who are here illegally from south of the border, they watered down all of our votes. that happens. >> kris kobach, he has a whole voting commission. >> stopped. did you not see what just happened to california? you can't stand by that. >> oh, i stand by the fact that what donald trump said about millions of illegal people, that is a fiction. he knows it, we know what, everyone on the show knows it. we should actually ask that question on the senses and figure out how many people are here.
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we'll talk about it a little better. >> how many of them are voting? >> jason: we'll take about a little bit later. thank you for being with us tonight. today former secretary of state hillary clinton waiting for the first time since the mueller report draft. >> i'm really of the mind that the mueller report is part of the beginning, it's not the end. maybe as churchill famously said, it's the end of the beginning. because there are still so much more that we should know and we should act upon. >> jason: i think she's actually right but i doubt it's for the reason she thinks. last night on our show, representative john ratcliffe, a gentleman from texas, on the judiciary committee, he revealed for the first time what attorney general barr really might be looking at. >> trey gowdy and i, the only two republicans that had the opportunity to see that probable cause evidence, to see all those fisa applications and unredacted
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form, and they centered around something called the steele dossier, which was entirely false and fake and now bob mueller says it was false and fake. the steele dossier said that carter page was at the center of a well developed conspiracy between the trump campaign and the russian government. carter page wasn't charged, he was never going to be charged, the idea that he was a russian agent was a joke. so the folks at the justice department, like jim comey mccabe and the folks, sally yates and others that verified this, they've got some explaining to do. is this fisa court to blame for this? where they just snickered? >> no. not necessarily. remember what they were seeing when they are asked to grant a warrant to spy on carter page. the first thing they see in big, bold letters are "verified application," all capitals. >> jason: i was shocked, as you were, when i heard it, from one of the two gentlemen on the
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public instead of the aisle that has read that report, verified. that is what was i didn't want to the fisa court. here now, the former deputy attorney general, and uc berkeley law school professor, john you. thank you so much for joining us in adding your expertise to this. the idea that this application said at the very top according to john radcliffe, "verified," how is that going to play, how are the courts and the department of justice going to be able to justify this when we find out that this dossier was such a fake piece of, you know, garbage? >> jason, as you say, hillary clinton said this is going to be the start of something, she thinks is going to be the start of impeachment. but as you point out, what this also is going to be the start up is an investigation of the fbi and the justice department officials who used the steele dossier to, i think, possibly mislead the fisa court. if that happened, they would have committed in violation of federal law, they would have misused the federal government surveillance powers, and those are things they should be
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investigated because people are going to be -- should be held accountable and responsible if they were misusing these powers to spy on an ongoing presidential campaign, which is the whole reason fisa was passed in the first place, was to prevent that from ever happenin happening. >> jason: right, because when you go to the fisa court, there is only one side that is presented. that is a department of justice. there is no solicitor or someone else that is arguing the other side of this. the judge in this particular case is actually looking to the the department of justice to provide them with what it says of the top of the document that we now heard from john radcliffe as "verified." you have the inspector general, who was supposedly going to conclude in the may-june time frame, also john huber, we are not sure, the u.s. attorney in utah, what he or may not be doing. but i'm not aware of any precedents here about how the court is going to deal with the potential -- potential -- that they were lied to and given a document that truly was not
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verified. >> let me say, i've practiced before the fisa court, i've seen these applications when i was in the justice department. i am absolutely shocked that people add justice, people at fbi, would rely on something so flimsy as the steele dossier, which come as you pointed out, has been complete be repudiated by the mueller report. what can happen? as you point out, the justice department could conduct ultimately criminal investigation. if you are the fisa court, unfortunately the way they can retaliate is to stop granting anymore fisa warrants. or to ask for -- they can ask were also there to be investigation or prosecution of the agents or even a high-ranking intelligence agenca administration who proved these warrants and surveillance, they could ask mr. barr, attorney general barr, to open an investigation, those previous officials. i think we are only at the very beginning of what this investigation will start to show. >> jason: i believe it was actually peter strzok who said the reason we were able to go to
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the courts is because of the probable cause we had within the dossier. if we didn't have the dossier, we wouldn't have been able to go and spy on the trump administration. i think one of the big questions, john, is going to be when did mr. mueller know there was a bogus document presented to the fisa court and when did he know that there was actually no collusion? he took an awful long time to investigate this. >> i agree with you, jason. i think actually it seems to be mr. mueller new pretty early on that there was no real evidence of any collusion, and so the question that i think a lot of people, including the end of the people are, why continue the investigation? why not ended early? why even have volume two of the mueller report, which is all about obstruction? those are all crimes that have to do, if they happen, have to do with the investigation itself, not with any underlying substantive crime like conspiracy, and also, not collusion, conspiracy to violate federal law. >> jason: john, thank you for your expertise and thank you for your your service to our
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country. thank you for joining us tonight. what we all somewhat expected this whole time was from earlier today. isis declared responsibility for the easter massacre at christian churches in sri lanka. the death toll has now risen to more than 320 people. with another 500 people injured. despite this terror attack being among the worst since 9/11 -- i can think of one that has been worse since 9/11 -- not a single democratic presidential candidate brought that up at last night's town halls. not a single cnn anchor asked the question about it. this went on for five hours. they didn't even ask a question about it. here are now on the difference of the american political reaction to this attack versus new zealand, for instance, is conservative commentator and documentarian dinesh d'souza. speefive, thank you so much for joining us here. you look at this issue. the difference between the two, both terrorist attacks , but treated very differently. >> yes, the sri lanka attack,
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the attack on multiple churches with now hundreds of victims was an attack on which you have questions as a target or the victims, and radical muslims as the perpetrators. and this sort of attack of radical muslims against christians has been occurring all over the world. we've seen it in the middle east. we've seen it in north africa. we seen it in asia. so it's part of a systematic pattern of targeting. and yet this notion of christians as victims and muslims as perpetrators disrupts the progress of narrative, if you will, and so not just the democrats, but also the media left has been remarkably quiet about the sri lanka attacks in comparison to the new zealand attack. the new zealand attack, of course, for the narrative. you had a mosque that was a
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target, muslims become the victim. you had a white supremacist who was the perpetrator. so they were all over that. they were not only focusing on the attack but they were focusing on the motivation of the attacker, and they were trying to link the white supremacist to white supremacy all over the world, even trump's name was brought into it, even though the perpetrator in that case was really clear that he hated president trump. what you see is a massive disparity of the way that these two incidents have been treated. it's kind of a window into the way, i think, in which new gets distorted and tragedies kids played for political gain. >> jason: you had several leaders of the democratic side of the aisle including former president barack obama, the democratic governor of colorado, you had representative killed the out of michigan all saying, easter worshipers as opposed to "christians," as if they were -- this all happened within an hour of each other, as if they
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said, let's not refer to christianity. but why? why offend so many americans by forgetting and not naming what easter is actually all about? >> i think if you actually acknowledge that there is a systematic persecution and targeting, terrorist targeting of christians, then that goes against, if you will come of the left-wing narrative by the left-wing narrative is that in this country at least, christiae the bad guys. and the poor muslims are the victims of terrorist targeting. and so it's not just that they wouldn't use the word "christian," it's out in the new zealand attack, there was a tremendous quest for the motivation of the attacker. how why did he do it? answer, he's white supremacist, therefore, white supremacy is a goal, global problem that needs our urgent attention. in this case, the motivation, if anything, is more clear. this is isis. these are radical muslims who are doing this in the name of islam and targeting religious targeting of christians prayed
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and yet, no discussion or motivation. in fact, the ones are talked about motivation basically say, we should not make the mistake of equating the people who do these things with muslims in general. a desire to distinguish between the perpetrators and muslims in general. >> jason: dinesh, thank you for your expertise. you would think we could be united, i'm calling it outcome exactly what it is, being against terrorism every single time, no matter what fragrant happens against christians, call them questions. dinesh, thank you. a new break and hate crime hoax involving jussie smollett. with the two nigerian brothers involved are now saying, and congressman steve scalise is here in the 2020 democrats looking to take away law-abiding americans' rights while strengthening those of the worst in our society. s see, aleve is proven better on pain than tylenol extra strength. and last longer with fewer pills. so why am i still thinking about this? i'll take aleve.
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♪ >> jason: the jussie smollett saga continues in chicago tonight as the two nigerian brothers who the disgraced actor attempted to frame are now fighting back. fox news correspondent mike tobin is covering all the developments from chicago tonight. mike? >> >> jicama congressman. one way another way we still may see
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jussie smollett in real life courtroom drama and he could be called on the federal lawsuit that was filed today. he is not, however, named as a defendant although those who don't say the attack was a hoax conceived and directed by jussie smollett right down to the use of a noose, bleach, and shouts that this is maga country. it claims after charges were dropped against jussie smollett, they did the rounds on news programs and podcasts. lawyers for the brothers say they repeatedly made false reprehensible and damaging statements. the brothers claimed the reputation of personal training business were damaged. they also suffered emotional distress. today attorney gloria schmidt said the two wannabe actors follow the direction of a successful actor and now they want to clear their name. >> they were asked to do something by a friend who they trusted and at the end of the day, that friend betrayed their trust. >> they had back on the part of their statement reads, the so-called lawsuit by the brothers is more of their lawyer-driven nonsense in a
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desperate attempt to state relevant and for the profit for my to attack the they perpetrated. they say the suit will be thrown out because it doesn't have legal footing. they are seeking a specified amount of money and legal cost. congressman comes back to you. >> jason: thank you. these new developments come one day after smollett's brother wrote a piece for bet outlining all the hardships that have befallen him since he faked his own hate crime. here are now on how smollett is trying to make himself with a victim of all this, pastor darrell scott, ceo of the national diversity coalition for trump and civil rights attorney leo terrel. leo, are we really supposed to be feeling sorry for jussie smollett? is he relieved a victim of this thing? >> he's a victim in this situation because the lawsuit, which is not directed at him, is frivolous. i guarantee you, jason, you know this, that lawsuit, lawyers have
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the right to speak out and defense of their clients. it's called litigation privilege. jussie smollett, right now, is a victim, and his attorneys are victim as a result of this frivolous lawsuit. it will be thrown out. >> jason: [laughs] pastor, what he stated that? they are trying to destroy these two guys. they did some stupid stuff but they are also trying to get their reputations back. what is your take? >> listen, can you imagine the ridicule and the mocking that these guys experiencing because of this dumb, not thought out drama that jussie smollett gave him? a bad script for a bad movie they got a bad rating on rotten tomatoes. leo, i've heard you say some pretty dumb things in your day, this has to take the cake as one of the dumbest things i've heard you say, when you are trying to defend this crap. you know full well jussie smollett planned this, you know full well that jussie smollett thought this out, must have been hired, delusional, came up with
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this cockamamie story. you are sitting here, just because he's black, you are trying to defend him. you know it. >> jason, next time, give me another lawyer to challenge because the pastor doesn't know what he's talking about. you know as well as i do, these two brothers are trying to profit from their own misconduct. the pastor -- >> misconduct? >> let me say this very clearly pray that lawsuit will be thrown out. i know you're not a lawyer but ask the lawyer. if litigation privilege, -- >> litigation privilege. >> can i ask the same lawyers of trump committed collusion? you guys are wrong and you are wrong again. >> we are going to left field on that one. how did trump get into this case? we got trump, race card -- i don't believe it. >> these are trump supporter's, that's why. >> jason: supposedly. there was a whole thing based on trying to create the scenario that somehow donald trump and maga supporters.
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are you trying to suggest, leo, that jussie smollett was not involved in this? that these brothers did this themselves? is that your case? >> i'm not saying that. i'm saying that these brothers are trying to profit from their own misconduct. they are not suing jussie smollett. >> misconduct? >> isn't that odd? >> hold on, leo, let me ask you that. here we have these two brothers that put on white face, skull caps, and maga hats on top and they said they mimicked a white boy's that was so convincing that jussie smollett thought it was two strange unknown white guys that attacked him, they poured bleach on him, put a noose around his neck, he never knew it was them at all. finally, after y'all busted, he realized it was these guys. >> you just made my case. >> bought whitespace -- why would you put on white face? >> you just -- >> how does a maga hat --
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>> you are not listening to become a pastor. >> jason: pastor, let leo have his chance. hold on. >> excellent talking point, pastor. >> leo, listen to this clip from jussie smollett. quick clip and i want you to respond. >> i will never be the man that this did not happen too. i am forever changed. >> jason: do you believe that, leo? is he telling the truth right there? come on. i -- >> you want me to speculate as to what is in his mind? i'm telling you right now, jason, the whole issue is the brothers' misconduct. the pastor has good talking points but pastor, i'll come back to the issue again, this lawsuit is going nowhere, and why should these guys, based on your own admission, come thou my profit from their own misconduct? >> what was their misconduct? >> if they were involved -- oh, my goodness. if they were involved in the criminal mishap, why should they
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fail they lawsuit? why? answer that. >> if they were involved, then that means they did everything i just said. they put on white face, put on skull caps, ordered make american great hats, and they moved white boys are so good that he didn't know they were then. he thought they were white boys. >> jason: okay, i got to college. end of the round. the bell has gone off. >> jason, next time, have a lawyer -- >> jason: leo, i think you actually one rectified. just so you know, leo -- thank you for being on. a spirited debate. i do appreciate it. last night on the show, former obama border chief mark morgan told us what he thought was to be a mexican soldiers disarming u.s. troops on our side of the border, it actually might have been something else altogether. some new video obtained by
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>> jason: fox news has obtained a range of showing heavily armed men smuggling a guatemalan mother and son into the united states. you can see the human traffickers here in full tactical gear carrying long guns and ak-47 assault rifles. this is what is really going on at the border. the video is terrifying and could be the start of the new
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norm. this coming just 24 hours after we brought you the story of mexican troops disarming u.s. soldiers on the united states' side of the border. obama's former border patrol chief, mark morgan, said last night on the show that those troops could have actually been armed traffickers. >> i'm not sure 100% they were actually mexican government officials. from my experiences, i would suggest that they were there possibly supporting the mexican cartels. i think you could make that logical assumption and it wouldn't be too far off base. >> jason: yeah, no crisis at the border. jordan me now is brandon judd, the national border patrol council president and francisco hernandez, who is an immigration attorney owned who's been on the show several times with me before. gentlemen, thank you for being with me. brandon, for your expertise, decades with the border patrol, what has been your experience? we are seeing video that is
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shocking to those of us they don't live and see what is going over at the border every day. what is your read in a situation with u.s. soldiers being disarmed and the video that we are seeing of the person coming across the border? >> jason, i personally have experienced dealing with mexican military. i personally have experience dealing with mexican police where they have come up to the border, they have distracted me and my partners while they have run drugs right behind us. that happened in central california one time and it happened in arizona on one occasion. so we know that these people, they run divergent tactics for the cartels, they smuggle right behind us, when there they areo divert us and now we are seeing armed bandits coming up and these are just sidearms they are carrying. these are ak-47s, these are long arms, these are very dangerous individuals and frankly, it is liberal policies that are putting these people in the hands of these dangerous criminals. >> jason: when you see that
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video, francisco, they have masks on because i think they know the americans actually have video surveillance on men. they don't want to be identified. there is also not a wall. you been on this show before. you are one of the ones that have said we don't need a wall. that is how they walk across the border. these people were detained by the border patrol but why should they have to put up with that crap? >> the wall would not have stopped them. they would find another place to go through. that is the point we are trying to make. what is wall going to do? 's we will not allow them to walk across the border! >> look, we had military there and they still got through, why didn't we get disarmed? how does that happen? a wall would have stopped it? it would have not. what we are failing to see it was hidden in plain sight. the crisis of the border are these cartels that quite frankly are smuggling, just as brandon said, the caravans are forcing us to do right to divert resources to take care of people that are fleeing from their countries, fleeing from
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their governments, going into these cartels, trying to escape bad danger and now our military is folding on that? very hard to believe. >> jason: there's a lot to unpack there. brandon, you've been on the border as a border patrol agent. come on. you don't think the wall would actually -- >> yeah, walls in strategic locations will absolutely stop these are smuggling organizations because then we are allowed to dictate where this type of action takes place. if we force these people to go through ports of entry, they no longer have to be in the smugglers hands. that is what walls will allow us to do. they will allow us to force these people to go through ports of entry, present themselves legally instead of entering the country illegally. walls absolutely work. everything a place we put them up. >> we would not even let the men at illegal port of entry. what you are saying is that a wall is stronger than the military, that these masked
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gunman, our military and our side of the border, are we ready to admit to justify building a wall? come on, guys. i'm not going to admit that. >> we have to consider that. if the mexican military is allowed to come into the united states and disarmed -- i make a man in numbers, they had force on their side, and they are able to disarm our national guardsmen, a wall would have stopped that. they would not have been able to do that had we had a wall in that specific location. this idea -- >> jason: gentlemen, i got to move on to the next thing. giving terrorists and child rapists the right to vote wasn't the only policy pushes on the 2020 democrats made last night. i got to tell you, there is an issue still needs to be ferreted out here. we have congressman steve scalise, he's next, to break on the shocking moments that would see law-abiding americans' rights taken away and take the worse in our society and giving
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♪ >> i think the right to vote is inherent to our democracy. yes, even for terrible people. >> the right to vote is one of the very important components of citizenship. and it is something that people should not be stripped of needlessly. >> jason: we watched the fox news intern, watch all five hours of the town hall last night, we are showing you the highlights so you don't have to go back and watch it. as we highlighted at the top of the show, democrats are considering putting more rights in the hands of the worst in our society. those that have been convicted of crimes. in the case of kamala harris, it isn't just bad. what she is proposing to come ar law-abiding americans as well.
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>> upon being elected, i will give the united states congress 100 days to get their act together and have the courage to pass reasonable gun safety laws and if they fail to do it, that i will take executive action. >> jason: coming after your guns. here now on this push from the left over who should and should not have constitutional rights in this country's house minority whip steve scalise. i had the honor and privilege of serving with him in congress. thank you so much for joining prayed on the one hand, democrats want to give rights to convicted felons prayed on the dash at the same time, they want to take away their rights of law-abiding citizens. what are the democrats doing here? >> jason, it's almost unbelievable when you look at how far to the left they have gone, where socialism literally is reaching out liberalism in terms of their ideology. like you said, they want to give the boston -- the boston farmer
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the ability to vote from prison. they will take away your first amendment rights, your second amendment rights, they have this plan and health care where they want to take away your ability to buy your own private insurance from your company. so it's all about control versus freedom. they want to take away more rights from law-abiding citizens but they want to give more rights to people who broke the law. violent felons serving in prison should be able to vote while they are in prison. let them keep talking about this, jason, and public, where everyone can see just how far their party has gone. >> jason: where they actually have to take policy positions, this is where they get themselves into trouble because they do expose it. they fight harder for people that aren't american or they fight harder for people that are in jail, incarcerated, then they do to allow their own people to keep, say, their guns under the second amendment or keep their health care policy with their employer. it really is amazing. i want to get her three topics here. we have a short amount of time. it is interest policy pushes that reveal the radical tendencies of the left but also
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how their front-runner discusses america's greatest ally in the middle east. watch this. >> the fact of the matter is that netanyahu is a right-wing politician who i think is treating the palestinian people extremely unfairly. the goal must be to try to bring people together and not just support one country, which is now run by a right wing, dare i say, racist government. >> jason: wow. congressman? president obama certainly wasn't a fan of bibi netanyahu, no doubt about it, but could you ever imagine him saying something this ugly about one of our greatest allies? >> there is absolutely no place for it. he owes an apology to benjamin netanyahu. i've met with benjamin netanyahu many times and talked in jerusalem about what he's trying to do to promote peace and actually have a two state solution. but you have to have both sides wanting to have peace. when one side says that they
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don't want to recognize israel as a jewish state and you see the anti-semitism, even in congress that nancy pelosi and others won't stand up to, when you look at gaza, a peace offering by israel to say, let's see if we can work on land for peace, and look at gaza today, as a launching pad for every terrorist organization that wants to undermined israel that you can imagine. thank goodness donald trump is standing with our ally, israel, but it's very telling to see where the democrat candidates for president are going with our greatest ally in the middle east in one of our greatest allies in the world who we all ought to be standing with, who needs that support from america. israel is our friend and our ally. we need to stand with israel, not attack them. >> jason: steny hoyer at the aipac conference tried to brush it off as if it was two or three people that were acting this way but, no, it's a democratic front-runner for the presidency of united states. >> it's a growing problem, jason. they won't stand up to anti-semitism. that should be the easiest thing we can come together on, to stand up against anti-semitism
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and they won't do that. >> jason: congressman, want to real quickly before you go, there's been some chatter about a potential republican challenger to president trump. one man who was thought to be stepping back from consideration, maryland governor larry hogan, seemed to give it a second thought today. watch those. >> people have asked me to give this serious consideration. i think i owe it to those people to do just that. i obviously have very strong concerns about the future of my party and the future of the country. >> jason: i don't know who he owes but congressman, what are your thoughts on challenging donald trump? >> it's a free country but anybody who challenges donald trump has to know, we've got one of the best economies we've seen in generations. when there are more job openings then people looking for work, when regulations are finally under control, when you can do business in america again, when we are seeing two opportunities for people, and the president fighting both here and abroad, giving our troops a pay raise, first when they've had in
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years, standing up for america trying to secure the border, president trump has a great story to tell aunt anyone that wants to run against him, he's ready for the fight. he's a tough guy. in the end, i think it the american people want to keep it going. >> jason: i'm glad hogan is the governor of maryland but i think that is where he should be. >> i agree. >> jason: congressman, thank you for joining us. aoc says v.a. hospitals are just fine. what is one army that think about that? she is here next to sound off.
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♪ >> it is a battle with the medications and the doctors and -- i mean, i watch him cry because he couldn't get the help he needed. i just did not realize how awful it would be to see so many dead bodies. >> jason: that was a mother of 29-year-old veteran gary presley, who killed himself in a parking lot of a georgia v.a. hospital. within five days of his suicide, another two military vets took their lives at v.a. facilities and there are hosts of other stories, untold stories, just like that. the agency is plagued with problems, systemic neglect, secret wait lists, and veterans even dying waiting to see a doctor. but don't worry, aoc says
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everything is a okay. >> there is something are hearing today, especially for the v.a., all i can say that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. >> jason: wow. if it ain't broke, don't fix it. joining me now is army veteran, joining us from philly. thank you for your service to this nation. thank you, thank you, thank you. >> thank you. >> jason: when you hear the stories, and you say, the v.a., just run, we don't need to fix it, what is your reaction? >> my first reaction when i heard that it is that aoc is a perfect example of why parents should say no to their children often prayed otherwise they go up to think everything they says ingenious. you've already mentioned some of my initial thoughts, jason.
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20 veterans commit suicide every single day. that is a problem. as you mentioned earlier, three veterans earlier just this month walked into a v.a. facility and committed suicide right there in the waiting room. that is a problem. these are problems that have existed for generations. this appears to be the first administration who has said, we are no longer willing to kick the can down the road. jason, you would remember because you are in congress during this time, in 2014, we had an innumerable number of v.a. scandals breaking, talking about the egregious way times that veterans were being submitted to, veteran go and with relatively minor issues and because of the extended wait time, there minor problems turned into life-threatening is. under this of administration, trump has been very focused on reducing those wait times. it's a very real problem. for someone to say, it is not broke, don't fix that, i would
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be surprised if she's ever even stepped in a v.a. facility. >> jason: real quickly, i only have 20 seconds or so, what is your message to veterans who are struggling right now? what should they do? >> out of those 20 veterans who commit suicide every day, 14 have never even been at a v.a. facility. president trump just signed into law a preventive program that will go out and reach out to those vulnerable programs. they need to know there are resources and they need to go -- >> jason: there is help. i want to continue to spend more time on this issue. again, thank you for your service and the message tonight. we'll be right back with "the last bite." s 6 symptoms, claritin-d relieves 8, including sinus congestion and pressure. claritin-d relieves more.
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>> the presence of creating a more peaceful world. please clap. [applause] >> jason: sorry, governor bush, that is always people watching that. now we get to relive it with two democrats having their own "please clap" moments. >> i have won every single congressional district in my state including michele bachmann's. okay? that's when you guys are supposed to cheer, okay? >> our caucus is 60% women, people of color, lgbtq. that is an applause line.
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[applause] >> jason: giving applause is never a good thing. that is all the time we had tonight. i'm jason chaffetz in for laura ingraham. shannon bream and the "fox news @ night" team take it from here. >> shannon: i hate when i have to force people to clap for me. it makes me feel like my punch line wasn't very good. oh, well. it happens to all of us. jason, thank you. we begin tonight with a fox news alert. demands growing for the investigation into the investigators. as two top players in the origins of the special counsel's russia probe speak out for the first time since mueller's redacted version went public. one of them claiming the investigation into russian interference was worse than the interference itself. we'll let you decide. also tonight, the issue pushing top 2020 democrats even further to the left, giving incarcerated felons, including murderers and terrorists, the right to vote. an officer who was shot by the boston marathon bomber response

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