death. eight hours to complete and i'm surprised it didn't take longer. the image will be plowed over to cultivate new crops in a few days. most great that you spent the evening with us. good night from washington. i am shannon bream. ♪ >> tammy: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight," i'm tammy bruce filling in for tucker. joe biden has entered the 2020 race and is immediately a front runner. can he beat 20 radical democrats fighting to take him down? mark steyn, one of your favorites, will be here to talk about that. plus, the hecklers who went after bernie sanders tonight. that is ahead. but first, a a massachusetts jue and court officer who helped an illegal immigrant criminal escape the custody of ice have actually been indicted for obstruction of justice and several other criminal charges. trace gallagher joins us with more.

hi, trace. >> jose medina-perez is an illegal immigrant who has been deported twice, is wanted on drunk driving warrants, and was appearing in a massachusetts courtroom before judge shelley richmond joseph on drug charges if he made bail, there was an ice agent in the hallway waiting to re-arrest him. here's the conversation picked up on courtroom audio between judge joseph and the defense eternity for medina-perez. they speak softly so listen close. watch. >> yeah. it's unclear what was said when they turned off the audio recorder, but the defense lawyer told the judge medina-perez needed to get his propertyhe downstairs, which the judge allowed. that is when prosecutors say the court officer, wesley mcgregor, who is also charged, used his access card to slip

medina-perez out the back door. the lead investigator s quoting, "the people of this country deserve nothing less than to know that their appointed and elected representatives are working on their behalf while adhering to and enforcing the rule of law, not a personal agenda."hi today the judge and court officer were indicted by a grand jury and pled not guilty to obstruction of justice. as she left the courthouse, judge joseph lost her composure and began to cry. her attorney says the case is purely political. >> tammy: all right, trace, thank you. thanks for that report. a boston area radio host, hi, how are you doing? >> very good, tammy. >> tammy: what a remarkable event. we know president trump was elected in part because americans were tired of notec having the rule of law and not seeing it in place and applied uniformly to all people, and now

suddenly we have an example of where it just might have been. give us some background. that's your state. it's pretty thrilling, isn't it? >> it is. i talked to the director of ice today, the acting director, and he says as far as he knows this is the first time this has happened. these sanctuary jurisdictionsth all across the country, but no judge, no politician, no sheriff, or police commissioner has ever been indicted for letting these illegal aliens go. in massachusetts, as in most other areas of the country, this has gotten to be a terrible problem. in the same courthouse just outside of boston, last year you had anotherer judge had an illel dominican gang banger in front of her who was accused of raping a college coed while she was drunk, and the prosecutors had asked for a high bail so that ice could grab this guy and get him deported, or at least get him locked up while hee faced charges. the judge cut the bail to $2,500, and he escaped out the

back door. they had a case south of boston, another rape case involving an uber driver. and he was let go at the courthouse. >> tammy: i have to say, this is unusual, and i think the lack of law and cooperation with federal law enforcement kind of invites this.ise as with that audio we heard, there is like collusion, like an effort made to help facilitate the escape. it wasn'tt even just using the law as the state might have passeded it. we can debate whether that would be constitutional or legal, but this is an actual effort to facilitate the escape by this judge and that clerk. extraordinary. >> this judge violated all kinds of laws. the court rooms are open and she wouldn't even let this guy who is not justoo a u.s. citizen buj an officer of the law, a sworn officer, and an ice agent. she wouldn't even let him in the courtroom. then they are all these rules of the massachusetts trial court to that you don't turn off the tape recorder for that very reason that they did turn the tape

recorder off. >> tammy: if you are willing to do what they did allegedly, there has been an indictment, then i don't think the other smaller issues bother you, either. but this seems to be, i think, a mentality especially on the e,left, and even within law enforcement as we have seen, even at the highest federal levels, that maybe the rules don't apply to them. and the nation, i think, has sent a message very strongly that we want law and order in the rule of law to apply to everyone. great job out there also with all of your work. thank you for joining me tonight. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> tammy: not a story we want to hear but it was good to see how it is turning out. the u.s.-mexico borderut has become a huge mess, thousands of people crossing over every day. "new york times" columnist thomas friedman says he has seen enough in a recent column. he shocked many on the left byby coming out in favor of a border

wall. he said so on cnn. >> when you say you want a high wall with a big gate, a smart gate, but a high wall, that is going to say to a lot of folks out there, that is what donald trump wants. >> i think t you've got to contl the border. when you have an increase of illegal apprehensions of illegal entries by 374% since october, obviously you've got a situation where the border security is not sufficient. time for a high wall with a big gate, a compassionate, smart gate so we can keep immigration going. >> tammy: all right, jonathan harris is a democratic strategist. he joins us now. jonathan, welcome aboard. >> hi, how are you? >> tammy: good. all of us are seeing tapes fly by the window no matter which side you are on. what ishe your take on this? i know you don't agree with mr. friedman. exactly why? >> we have heard the numbers, we've heard thewh border wall would only curb a third of illegal immigration because that is not whered it comes from. it actually doesn't come predominately from the southern

border. it is people coming in through legal ports of entry and stuff like that. it would only cut a third of illegal immigration. a lot of people disagree with it on the front because it's not cost-effective to spend that much money to cut a third of illegal immigration, then also just the way that trump promoted the wall, p p which was essentiy calling mexicans rapists and criminals and so forth. whether you agree with the wall or not, if you isolate just to that, those remarks leave a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths. a lot of people would've supported some of the wall or extended fencing. p when you hear what he says about muslims and mexicans, you don't even want to be associated with hit at all. >> tammy: here is our issue, though. a lot of people don't like what the president says or how he says it, then there's the facts of the matterre and the reality. even taking your numbers, which we can debate whether that is the case or not, in march alone, 100,000 illegal immigrants were apprehended. you know, having 30,000 of those individuals stopped, why not do that?

but isn't the nation's national security, doesn't that matter especially with al qaeda still out there? especially with other terrorist groups? with what happened in sri lanka? this is not i a zero-sum game. it's not just the wall. it is a comprehensive framework of border security. but the wall is part of that. especially when it comes to fentanyl and the drugs coming over. what would make you happy? no wall, or what is the solution? >> the issue for me and a lot of people on the left -- lawmakers, voters -- cutting a third of illegal immigration and then asking the taxpayer to foot the bill for millions of dollars when you said to your supporters, america, that mexico was paying for this, repeatedly. you promoted the wall by calling mexicans rapists and criminals. >> tammy: we can argue about whether or not the president approached this properly. i think he did. but americans aren't saying this -- anymore than you wouldn't go to the doctor if you think there is only a 30% chance of a certain medicine working

for you. just don't take it. but you've got to have a point where we come together, go down hto the border, see what is gog on and we say yes, we've got to take control of this. >> i'm agreeing with what you are saying in principle, i'm just saying the way he told it was vile and the facts don't support the need for it. >> tammy: thank you, i appreciate that, that is very 2019 of you. >> thank you. >> tammy: two years ago, a college student was returned to the united states from north korea. none of you will forget that. however, he was in a comatose state and died days later. now, sources say that when north korea released him, they also gave the u.s. government a $2 million bill for the "treatment" that he received. according to those sources, joseph young signed that bill, but for at least the following year, it was never paid.

the trump administration has yeinsisted that it paid no ransm money for his release or any other north korean hostages, three more of which were also released later. extraordinary development there. joe biden, in the meantime, has entered the democratic presidential race, but biden, obama's vice president, is he liberal enough to win in the modern democratic party? that is next. plus, mayor bill de blasio has declared a new war on hot dogs. that is just ahead. ♪

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>> tammy: all right, after months of waiting in speculation, joe biden finally entered the democratic presidential race today. in his announcement, biden said giving donald trump eight years in the white house would permanently damage the country. >> we are in the battle for the soul of this nation. i believe history will look back on for two of this president and all he embraces as an abhorrent demoment in time. but if we give donald trump eight years in the white house, he will forever and fundamentally alter the character of this nation. who we are. and i cannot stand by and watch that happen. that is why today i'm announcing my candidacy for president of the united states. >> tammy: all right, biden leads in the polls. but commentators are already warning that his age, sex, and skin color are liabilities in the modern democratic party. >> it will be really interesting seeing him attempt to connect with these voters who have quite

frankly been paying attention to people like kamala harris and other younger lawmakers who are a bit closer to the current base. b >> what makes you so confident that a 76-year-old white man, that this is his moment? >> has he missed his moment? does the democratic base that he is young, progressive, and apparently somewhat desperate for an outsider, do they want someone like joe biden? older, the consummate insider, if you will. >> joe biden understands this modern democratic party is going to sit back and say, really? we want a 76-year-old white man? >> tammy: congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez isn't thrilled, either. >> that does not particularly animate me right now. i can understand why people would be excited by that, this idea that we can go back to the good old days with obama with obama's vice president, i think there is an emotional element to

that but i don't want to go back.t, i want to go forward. >> tammy: author and columnist mark steyn joins us now. i have a feeling you have a few things toam say. welcome aboard.. >> great to be with you, tammy. >> tammy: this is very interesting. i agree with alexandria, no one wants to go back, but i don't think anyone wants to go back to having their jobs delivering pizza, either. because this is going to be a rough primary, and certainly would be an even rougher general election. what do you think his biggest liability is? is it his skin color, his age, is it being associated with the past? what do you think they are looking at here? >> i don't think it's his skin color or his age, because as much as i enjoy hearing all these people beat up on a 76-year-old white man, his principal rival in the democratic party is a 77-year-old white man. and the difference between them

i think is that bernie is a romance for his supporters. he is a romantic figure, a romantic, insane figure, but he is romantic. biden is tired and in the awful position of being unable to run as himself, because the democrats have basically disowned 90% of what joe biden has been doing in washington the last 45 years. so that's a terrible problem for you have to run in an essentially dishonest way, which is why he gave this a tortured and weird rationale as to why he has decided to get into the race in this video. bernie has it way easier. bernie just gets to be bernie, and biden is trying to be something other than biden. >> tammy: in the video, it was interesting that he really basted in charlottesville, but it seems that with this fear that all of america had become racist, and he is supposed to be the moderate. yet that is the rhetoric of the

left. the rhetoric of the left really, also, is kind of sexist and racist, in a way. and ageist. for a group that is politically correct, they seem to be moving into an arena that they use to condemn people for. >> it is very interesting that old people are the last people you can beat up on. i think that is to do with the fact that democrat ideology essentially now is living in ait kind of hype of present tense, so that anything that happened before the day before yesterday is entirely irrelevant. that means that the people who exemplify it, you know, candidates who are older than 12 years old, can be beaten up on the grounds of their age. but biden doesn't even do the old thing well, because like russian collusion, the basic premise of the russian collusion fever it was that trump was some kind of deep sleeper, or not so deep sleeper, for vladimir putin.

that doesn't indict all trump supporters. this weird thingim that trump somehow is leading to this resurgence of white supremacism necessarily indicts not just trump but half the population of the country, too. >> tammy: that's it and it's difficult to fit into that. the other older white man, bernie sanders, last night i attended an event called she the igpeople. a woman in the crowd asked sanders what he would do to fight against a so-called white. nationalism. when he evaded giving an answer, he began to get heckled. listen to this. >> let me just follow up, senator. the core of the question is about, as president, what would you do with the rise of white supremacist violence and protect us? [applause] >> you know, as somebody -- i know i date myself a little bit

here, but i actually was at the march on washington with dr. king back in 1963. >> tammy: he got booed for saying that, why? what is going on there, mark? >> bernie, in fairness, he looks fabulous there. he doesn't look 77. he looks like 83, 97 may be. but you can tell he is actually serious about running for president. he lives across from the connecticut river from me and he looks more coiffed and groomed than i've ever seen him. so he is serious this time. >> tammy: i think he is ready to take it on. but this is just one taste of what everyone can expect in this democratic primary season. mark, thank you so much. >> as well, tammy. great being with you. >> tammy: identity politics is consuming the democratic party. even presidential candidates are apologizing for their sex and skin color.

many of the men running are pledging to pick a woman if they get the nomination. >> i will have a woman running mate. it is clear to do that. >> it would be very difficult not to select a woman with so many extraordinary women who are running right now. >> i think we would look for somebody who is maybe not of the same gender that i am. >> i pledged that i would ask a woman to serve for vice president. i >> tammy: all right, michelle ritchie is a former press secretary for the f communicatis committee. she joins us now. friend of mine, too. i think we agree on a lot of things here, but you can even hear i guess the discomfort of bernie sanders. he couldn't even say "woman." i don't know why not. but do you think there is a problem with focusing on the bean-counting, if you will, of

gender as opposed to getting the right person for that job? >> let me be the first to say i certainly believe we should pick a qualified person to hold that position as vice president. however, i always find it very interesting that we seem to, when we talk about identity politics, we always seem to focus on marginalized groups of people. we always focus on african-americans or women, but it's weird because that same notion should also apply to republicans who may appeal to more white, male-dominated audiences. isn't white or caucasian a race? isn't male a gender? so i'm notot sure why it's only people speaking to people who look like me, all of a sudden it becomes identity politics. >> tammy: but it comes up in the vicinity of what is being discussed, pointedly for that reason. that clip where he was beingng heckled about how are black women going to be represented? or in the case of the question

about the vice president. are you going to select a woman? the difference between that and policy that appeals across the board, or to let's say, blue-collar workers in the midwest who might be primarily male, or have a different point of view. a it's the difference between deliberately appealing to a group of individuals for the sake of doing that versus having policies that happen to appeal to a particular constituency in the country. but i would also say, i don't know if you noticed this, why wouldn the men, somebody like beto o'rourke, presume that the women running are running to be his vice president? >> that's the other thing! there is this assumption that the woman running is fine -- women are running for president and you think these women are interested in being vice president? i don't think so. stacy abrams, i think it was on "the view" where she actually said this, if i were to run i have intentions of running for president, not vice president. but we have to understand, picking a female candidate to

runrs as vp is not necessarily - it may appear to be a winning strategy but it is not always a winning strategy. i think we saw that with john mccain and sarah palin. he thought maybe he could pull some of those hillary clinton supportersug after barack obama got the nomination from the dnc, i can pull those women. but if you're going to have a woman, don't say, i'm going to select a woman. say, i'm going to select the most qualified woman.om that would say that you are looking at her talent, not her gender. >> tammy: there's enough talent where you don't have to make a statement, because it's the right thing to do. exactly. great job. nice seeing you. no doubt we will be talking about this -- which is good --ob for a long time to come. all right, facebook spies on you. wfo amazon spies on you. but is your car spying on you as well? that is next. plus, prosecutor kim foxx let jussie smollett go unpunished but why will she not give the same leniency for people who aren't friends with michelle obama?

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>> tammy: big tech is spying on you almost all the time. facebook says it expects to be fined almost $5 billion for spying, i guess they shrug. and how they are facing a new investigation in new york for collecting users' email address book. your entire book. tech giants aren't just monitoring their computer, they are also in your living or andte even in your car. "fox news headlines 24/7" anchor brett larson has more. >> thank you. this is a bit of a frightening find as we continue to uncover these things of what technology knows about us, from the products we buy to the things we search for, to just how often you change the oil in your car. the average person is creating a breadcrumb trail that links

together virtually everything we do, and big companies are making a fortune off of it. and it's not just big tech, either. car manufacturers in detroit are buying and sellingec your persol information like your location, your driving habits. insiders think data from your cars could be worth as much as $750 billion by 2030. who is making the money? car manufacturers, even the folks who fix your car are all fighting over who owns your private information. california is trying to combat the data information. they are considering a law that would give consumers the right to obtain data collected on them, ask for it to be deleted, and block companies from selling your personal information. opponents of the law say some of the data collected, like where you've been, where you are, will make it more difficult for emergency services to find you. but your car isn't the only thing tracking your every move. >> you must have gotten prime

membership back! >> i guess i did. the bigwigs promoted me to manager. i've been training new employees. when did all this stuff arrive? >> it came just a few hours ago. oh, stephen! you did it! >> it turns out that "south park" clip is real. amazon has a team of employees who listen to their alexa smart devices.s they say humans are necessary to help artificial intelligence understand them, that's how it starts. but some reports suggest amazonn employees who listen and can see your location and at one point had access to your phone number. silicon valley is fighting to represent companies like facebook, amazon, and google came out swinging against a bill in illinois that would've stopped companies from recording private conversations, g unless you agree to it in a written policy. but it's not clear that fines and regulations will work on the larger-than-life tech companies. facebook, as we discussed, already prepared to hand over

billions of dollars worth of fines, admitting they set aside $3 billion for a settlement last quarter. a move that actually sent to their stock soaring today on wall street. that was in their financial disclosure yesterday. setting aside this money for legal feesir and fines, because when you're making $15 billion in profit, $3 billion. that's a fifth of your profit. >> tammy:: a major part of that profit is going to be the selling of this data. it becomes a vicious circle. they are paying with your money, effectively, that they are using your data for to be able to continue on toor do this. >> and there have been a lot of people saying, they should just make a version of facebook where you pay $8 a year for ita becaue they have your data -- but facebook is not going to agree to that. they make more money. >> tammy: i love that they say this because they have to keep you safe. [laughter] they save you. yeah right. thank you. great job. the cast of the tv show "empire" have released a joint letter demanding that actor jussie smollett return to the show. the letter claims that

jussie smollett is "honest and filled with integrity." they say he is innocent of allne claims against him. meanwhile in chicago, a woman charged with making a false police report is accusing state's attorney kim foxx of a double standard. mark martin agreed, telling prosecutors to say why they are prosecuting her but not smollett. robby soave t is an editor and e author of "panic attack: young radicals in the age of trump." he joins us. thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> tammy: fascinating situation because the judge in this was also equally perplexed by the fact that she seemed to be taking a very different position with this young woman versus what she took with mr. smollett. the judge raises an excellent point. >> what's different with this person who allegedly filed a false report? is it that they are not a rich,

well-connected, famous celebrity who has politically involved friends, associates, or acquaintances? is that why this person is being brought to justice at all costs? where jussie was allowed to walk free, without even pleading guilty.us that is what kim did wrong. she just said no, i don't want to move forward with this case, even though the evidence is good and i would convict him, i just don't feel like doing it. why?d a lot of people were baffled by it. they wanted some sense of closure that we are unlikely to get now because of what the prosecutor did. >> tammy: and also what it has done for other cases that should be adjudicated and handled a similar way. and at the same time, there is a county inspector general who was also very curious about the decision-making process with her. eventually, we may find out what the reasoning was, but in the meantime, good for that judge. thank you for joining us tonight. appreciate it.ti tucker is back after the break.

lauren blanchard is going for a "final exam" record. plus, bill de blasio has declared war on hot dogs. that is just ahead. ♪

♪ ♪ >> tammy: all right, tucker is back for the next segment. lauren blanchard made her bid to join the "final exam" hall of fame. here isur what happened. ♪ >> tucker: it's time now for "final exam," where the news professionals compete with one another for a chance to be crownedr the news knowledge champion. for ten straight weeks, fox correspondent lauren blanchard has faced ten separate w opponents.

she has crushed them all. they've all been buried by blanchard. tonight she wants to break the standing all-time win record set byby shannon bream by winning hr 11th match in a row. if she does, she will join bream on our hall ofa fame wall. her opponent, in this 11th and final match, kathryn, who we brought in just for tonight's showdown. >> i would like to extend a congratulations. >> tucker: [laughs] let's just jump right into this. i will repeat the rules because we always do. hands on buzzers, i ask the questions. the first one to buzz in has to answer. you have to wait until i finish asking the question to answer it. you can answer once i acknowledge you by saying your name. every correct answer gets you a point, every incorrect answer detracts a point. best of five wins. are you ready?

not to unless this is coming from the fourth hour of "the today show." >> tucker: by the way, the questions may be coming from just there. multiple choice, the president and first lady just held the white house's biggest social event of the year, the white house easter egg roll. 30,000 kids and adults showed up throughout the day. the question, when was that event, the easter egg a roll, first held? a, 1878. b, 1787. c, 1692? lauren blanchard. >> 1878. >> tucker: it wasn't 1692? who put that in there? pico is born correct? >> the easter egg roll on the south lawn of the white house, first lady melania trump hosting the event, the tradition dating back to 1878. president trump will blow the whistle about 2 minutes from now. >> happy easter. thank you. >> tucker: our producers just

reminded me, 1692 is the salem witch hunts. that is why it sounded familiar. okay, question two, an american musician recently sang the national anthem at a stanley cup playoff game. something embarrassing happenedn to him as soon as he was done singing. what happened? lauren. >> he slipped on the ice when he was done. off the carpet. >> tucker: did he? roll tape, please. [singing] [cheers and applause] >> no! oh, he just took one step back. >> tucker: our judges are saying your description is correct. that is exactly what he just did. okay, question three. one more multiple-choice question. queen elizabeth, the queen of

england, had her birthday just the other day. how o old is she now? a, 93. b, 94. c, 95? >> she is b, 94. 94 years young. >> tucker: is she indeed 94? >> i want to say happy birthday, queen elizabeth. she turned 93 yesterday. 93! >> tucker: i don't know if she watches the show, but she's probably throwing a glass of sherry at the tv right now. i'm 93, not 94! >> i could use a glass of sherry, so i will take it. [laughter] >> tucker: this is our daily double. congressman eric swalwell is running for president. he is advising. people to stop spending on one specific type of snack and to give that money to him instead. what food does eric swalwell want you to forgo? lauren. >> potato chips! don't eat your dollars.

>> tucker: potato chips! is it potato chips? >> $1 could buy you a half bag of chips, or it could save us from a crumblinghi government. how will you spend yours? >> i will g take year-old stale chips. we should put one of these open somewhere in the green room for a year and a year from now we should tastete what they taste like.e >> tucker: yum, swalwell chips, i like that. >> you can't get a bag of chips for $1. even in a vending machine. >> tucker: final question. this question is about "jeopardy," our game show rival. a pro sports veteran is bankrupting the show pretty muco because he just keeps winning. he recently broke the record, surpassed $1 million in the shortest time ever. how many days did it take this man to win $1 million?he >> 23. >> tucker: 23 days. 23 days.3 very specific!

okay, did it take him 23 days? >> you have 30 seconds, good luck.s. he did he come up with grant and lee? he did. $118,816. now a 14-day total of $1,061,564. that is amazing. >> that was close. >> tucker: it was close, but on this show, unlike the s.a.t., we encourage guessing. it's rewarded, maybe not in the outcome but with our admiration. so we admire you for guessing. thank you very much.h. >> thank you. >> tucker: and you, lauren, you've won your 11th in a row and with that, it is time to induct you into the "final exam" hall of fame. the second person to make it there alongng with shannon brea. but we have a video of how you prepared forth this video. we want our viewers to see this.

♪ ♪ >> tucker: that's t unbelievable. i want to be totally clear, when we shot that, we had no idea. we didn't give you the questions ahead of time. >> it made me study even harder because if i lost, that same day. >> tucker: kathryn, don't feel bad. i could never. >> i don't feel bad at all.i >> tucker: emily lynn is here with your prizes. emily has something for you, lauren. >> this is such an exciting moment. >> tucker: a sash and tiara. [laughs] there's not a dry eye in the studio! lauren blanchard, ladies and gentlemen. really the all-time winner, the

highest scorer ever. you will live forever in the heartshi and memories of our viewers. >> thank you very much. >> tucker: that is it for this week's special "final exam." we'll be right back. tell us if you can beat the experts then. we will be right back. (male announcer) don't miss the dog days family event this saturday at bass pro shops and cabela's. bring your best friend along

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>> tammy: this is a fox news alert. text messages between former fbi officials peter strzok and lisa page indicate that the fbi may have tried to use post-election briefings to monitor the trump team. these text messages were released in 2018, but fox has learned they are now under renewed scrutiny from congressional investigators. the texts, they discussed using postelection briefings to find people they could "develop for

potential relationships." that may refer to cultivating sources to inform on the president's associates. the texts also discussed tracking lines of questioning they received and "assessing changes in demeanor by those at the meeting." congressman devin nunes tells fox that these texts are evidence of deep irregularities in the fbi's trump-russia investigation. bill barr demanding more information. we will continue to monitor this extraordinary story. now, california's cities are filling up with homeless camps, needles, and human waste. instead of fixing those problems, the government has given financial aid to illegal immigrants and banned straws. now lawmakers have a new idea. they want to ban schools for suspending students for willful defiance, as they call it. in other words, students can be disruptive as much as they want

in class, and schools will be powerless to punish them. jason brandt is a seattle radio host. he joins us now. jason, welcome aboard. >> thank you. it's insane, isn't it? >> tammy: i am a native californian, i've lived in new york for a number of years. i love the west. your state is extraordinary. california is wonderful. but what can you tell us about -- banning straws is one thing. what is this about not wanting to take control of a classroom educational environment? what is behind this? >> my guess is what is behind it is social justice. we have a bunch of ideologues who are in charge of major states of the west coast and they are kind of running them into the ground. when you look at something like this, it is usually about institutionalized racism. when you look at the data, it suggests that if you are a student of color, you are at a higher likelihood of being suspended. they are looking at this and saying, okay, there has to be something wrong. there has to be something wrong beyond what the teachers are doing, let's just stop it rather than look at the data.

they say okay, we are not going to do the suspensions, but you are ignoring the root cause. all of us would probably agree there are some situations where teachers or administrators are rushing to suspending or expelling certain students for whatever. but if you take an entire tool out of that toolbox, you're making it harder for the teachers, and by the way, you are literally ignoring the fact that institutionalized racism or not, these are teachers and educators who are suspending these students. right? there should be seen as a slap in the face to teachers, but progressives like to say, we fight for the teachers. not really, because you are telling me that they are racist and targeting african-american students at a disproportionately high rate. it's a little bizarre. >> tammy: of course, for everyone involved, including the students, you know, you would think there would be a policy indicating, or at least an awareness, that if somebody is acting out in class there may be a problem and that the effort should be in addressing that

issue. but especially by ignoring the issue, it sends a message to the other students that you can do these things and have no punishment. in addition to perhaps wanting to notice the nature of what dangers may be in that environment for the other students. everybody loses with this kind of a policy. >> they do. think about the fact that, why are these students acting out and why are they being willfully defiant? maybe there's something going on in the home. maybe you decide you are no longer going to do the suspensions, some alternative punishment. okay, fine. but that still is not addressing the root cause of what is going on in the home. while you are dealing with this, to your point, you have students who are just there trying to learn who are constantly being interrupted. >> tammy: exactly. beyond punishment, just even inquiry. all right, jason, that is all the time we've got. obviously, this will continue on. appreciate you bringing it to us. >> thank you for having me. >> tammy: in 2014, new york

mayor bill de blasio had nothing but good things to say, as most of us do, about hot dogs. >> a great new york tradition, the annual nathan's famous hot dog eating contest in coney island, something that is quintessentially new york, a place i love to visit. i just personally love nathan's hot dogs and look for every opportunity to have one. [laughter] >> tammy: now, de blasio has flip-flopped. he sure looked like he was enjoying that dog, though, didn't he? but hot dogs are evil now. the mayor has put his name on the new york version of the green new deal and as part of that policy, new york will aim to remove processed meats, including hot dogs, from all city property including hospitals and schools.

melissa francis, cohost of "after the bell" and fox news contributor, she joins us now. what the heck is going on? >> and host of "outnumbered" on fox news channel, don't forget. but there is a war on hot dogs. mayor bill de blasio has loved his last hot dog and he feels like we don't need them any longer. it's always a money grab, that is what you have to understand. this is part of, as you said, the green new deal. we are going to do away from processed meats, because you've heard about cows and animals, they are a little bit gassy, so we've got to get rid of them to have a liberal planet. this is part of his plans to take away buildings with lots of windows, no one is going to drive, and we are going to get rid of plastic and paper bags in spots. but if you look closely, these things are never banned. what it really is is you can do it for a price. for example, with the glass buildings, you can still do it if you want to do it. people who want to live in huge, lovely towers. but he's going to charge you millions of dollars. and it's the exact same thing

with the bags and the congestion pricing. the problem is taxes in new york are too high already and people are fleeing because we can't take it any longer. so they came up $3.4 billion short due to personal income taxes of people who fled the state and didn't pay. in a panic, did they decide to spend less? oh, no, tammy bruce! why would they do that? no, they are going to dream up new ways to tax the rest of us, and those few idiots like myself who are left here are going to drive us out by taking away our hot dogs and taxing our windows. >> tammy: it's going to look like, i think "the post" had him as fred flintstone. stone-based homes. i would suggest that maybe the mayor might have a hot dog or two in the privacy of his own mansion. it will just be poor us who won't be able to eat the processed meats. people enjoy spam and baloney.

who doesn't like a baloney sandwich? it's ridiculous. >> i am not a huge fan of baloney but i've never seen a strip of bacon that i didn't want to eat. the irony is that he is supposed to be a man of the people but what he is doing is depriving all these things to people who can't afford them. and he's putting them off to the side to the big real estate developers, you're going to have to pay a few extra million dollars to have your glass windows, if you want to drive in new york, you have to pay more money. he is hurting the people he claims he is for. all in the guise of the green new deal. they may go 2 to at about the environment but it's all about the money. >> tammy: you never want to let a good crisis go to waste. they are going to make regular people miserable as they get all the benefits. thank you so much. great seeing you. >> i'm going to have a hot dog right now. >> tammy: good, perfect. all right, that that is about it for us.

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