and they're trying to figure out what happened here, the rationale. what was the reason for it. arthel: we know people have been shot. we don't know the extent of their injuries. we live in this climate of terrorism. you have what's happening in sri lanka at the moment. we don't want to blow it out of proportion, what's happening at the chabad synagogue. it's possible it could be domestic. we don't know what's happening. what are some of the questions that authorities on scene will be asking eyewitnesses there? >> what they've done, once law enforcement have gotten control of the scene like this, the first thing they want to do is to separate the various eyewitnesses, to try to determine what each and every eyewitness observed or saw and at the same time they are combing that synagogue to try to

determine if, as i said, others are involved. what you now have is a crime scene and they have to process that crime scene. and as a part of that crime scene, it is also trying to talk to possibly the one person that has been detained, to try to determine what was that person's motive. they also are trying to determine if other individuals at the synagogue knew the individual who came in and is responsible for the shooting at this state. arthel: eric is going to jump in. we want to point out that today is the saais sabbath, as well as final day of passover. there would be a large number of people at the synagogue. eric: according to the website of the synagogue, they were starting a passover celebration at 11:00 a.m. this morning, pacific time, a half hour before

the shooting was first reported. that ending later on today with a passover dinner. so ted, two things. you have a possible large group of people in the synagogue, starting this passover celebration, a suspect comes in, allegedly opens fire, multiple people shot, we're told, according to local media reports. four transported to hospitals. as you pointed out, i mentioned earlier, this is the tragic anniversary of the tree of life shooting six months ago in october, october 27th in pittsburgh in which 11 were killed in that horrible single gunman attack. so your reflections on the fact you've got a group of people starting a passover celebration here on this day, six month point of a horrible anti-semetic massacre that occurred in pittsburgh and now another potential sickening attack that we see here in california.

>> yeah, eric, i remember having to cover the tree of life shooting there at the synagogue in pittsburgh and this is certainly eerily similar in the time span of it happening. the sad commentary, eric and arthel, we have the targets out here and a synagogue, a church, those are soft targets. they're very vulnerable. and my assumption would be after the tree of life shooting and during this time of the year where you're dealing with passover, that you would have more protection at the various synagogues around the country, as a matter of fact. but no matter how much protection you have at these various houses of worship, you

cannot have 100% protection. so we don't know if this was someone at this stage who was actually associated directly with the synagogue or someone who came in from the outside. arthel: again, this is happening, a shooting taking place 20 miles north of san diego at the chabad synagogue happening this morning at 11:30 a.m. their local time, pacific time. ted, how much time do authorities, first responders have in questioning this man that they have in custody who may or may not be related to this shooting? how much time do they have to get as much information out of him before an attorney shows up? >> well, as much time as -- during the investigation, they can question him in this stage,

quite naturally, when he actually becomes a direct suspect, at that stage his constitutional rights may kick in and they will certainly advise him of his rights and they will also advise him that he has the right to remain silent, that he does not have to say anything. but you find, and i found sort of like even at the tree of life in pittsburgh, that these people who care are out these shootings like this, they always-not always, but for the most part they want to say something. and so what they're trying to do is to try to determine, again, if this person is acting a alone, who he is, what was his motive, they want to try to find out where he lives. they want to try to immediately move in those directions to try to find out as much as they can. they are putting together what i

define as a footprint. and that footprint is where they're going backward, from the time of the shooting, to try to find out what was the motive, what was the person's involvement, were others involved, is this -- again, i don't want to make this -- say too much about this, but is this a terrorist act or is this something personal. all of those things are trying to be developed at this stage. eric: if it was personal, potentially one would think it could be one victim, that if it's a domestic situation, the person would be going after one person, not four. there are reports, local media in san diego, that multiple people shot, four transported to the hospitals. does that then give you any indication in that way that it may not be a domestic and -- sadly, tragically in this country have grown to expect and have suffered so many times, too many mass shootings.

>> you're right, eric. i've been on with both of you all and we've covered numerous shootings that were not personal and that people were just soft targets and targeted. but we don't know -- it's too early for us to say either way, because a lone gunman can go into a place like this and have one target in mind and even shooting at that one target, other people can very well be injured. so it's a little early for us to say one way or another. but it is concerning to me, based upon what you and i and arthel have gone through over the years in covering these shootings, that there may very well be a soft target and someone took advantage of a soft target and i say that simply to say because we're dealing here with a synagogue where there are

multiple individuals there and as we know they were dealing with passover at the time. so all of this is very concerning as to what ar the moe was. i would have to believe, guys, that very soon here there's got to be a press conference. i think that the law enforcement officers as well as public officials there know that the community in and of itself is in a heightened state of alert. so they've got to have some kind of a press conference, to let us know what is going on as soon as they possibly can. arthel: and we have word, ted, regarding those four patients -- four people injured. they are now being treated at the palamar medical center, in another suburb of san diego. so again, this is happening, just to let our viewers know who

are just tuning in, we're reporting on a shooting at the chabad synagogue, it is about 2d this started at 11:30 this morning. one shooter is in police custody. so it seems, again, according to ted williams' assessment of this with his extensive experience that this situation is under control. we had live pictures, i'm not sure if we have those pictures, guys, if we can pop them back up. our fox affiliate, fox a 5 in san diego, had pictures earlier of the scene. and from what we could tell, it seemed pretty controlled, didn't seem chaotic at all at the moment. so -- eric: it is certainly tragic for this to occur again in our country, especially on the sabbath, on a saturday, during the high holy days at a time when families and others are

gathered to celebrate in the final day of passover and there are media reports that some children are among those who have been wounded in the shooting. ithe numbers, thank thankfully r are low, four people, that's four too many, were transported to the local hospital. one suspect is in custody. thankfully, for that, and of course as ted said, this in a sense could potentially echo the tree of life massacre which did happen six months ago on this day. we'll see if police and authorities have any significance about that in terms of what is developing right now in california. arthel: it's definitely very sad, eric, no matter what the motive is. we're unclear of the motive at this point. but we want to bring in dan linkski, a former superintendent and chief in boston.

the boston police department. so chief, what would you think in terms of what we know, the very limited information that we do know, what's your gut and your experience telling you in terms of what the possible motive could have been when have you a shooter at this point, according -- we don't know, but it appears they only have one shooter, a lone shooter in custody. goes in at the height of this religious season and on the sabbath, goes into a synagogue with a gun. >> we won't know the motive for a period of time. we've got to get more information together to notify the moa motive. it could be a personal disturbance, a family relationship that has gone wrong, a domestic relationship or a personal dispute with a worshiper that he was sure would be at services during a high holy day. it could be someone motivated by hate. we don't know at this point. the authorities will try to figure out as quickly as possible. we need to figure out if this

individual acted alone, if there's anyone else out there. what's going on in our country, because of what's going on in the world, jurisdictions should put resources around houses of worship, make sure there's more security there and people have eyes out and make sure this is not a bigger plot than just the individual in san diego. probably not, most likely not. but we need that in our mind as events play out in our country. arthel: how successful do you think first responders there can be, very early on in their questioning of this lone shooter that they have in custody? >> sometimes it's right out there in front of you. the individual sometimes if they're motivated by hate and have an agenda, they let you know why they did it and they'll make statements as we've seen in other cases at the scene, that they can get from witnesses and document. that will quickly identify what the motive was. some of the language they use,

some of the people they targeted. we can figure out pretty quickly and then it's just a matter of law enforcement verifying the information before they give it out publicly because they want to make sure that the information is accurate. sometimes -- not sometimes. majority of the time the first reports from a crime scene like this are not accurate. you have to verify and dig in and make sure the information you give to the public is exactly what transpired or what is transpiring. arthel: are we to assume or glean anything from the -- how many time passes before we hear from the sheriff's department out there in terms of bay wa bay of a -- by way of a press conference. >> i think the sheriff and the sheaf in san diego -- chief in san diego are professional and well-known in the field. if they mitigated the threat and they've got people responsible and they're comfortable people can take a deep brett ha breathe

figure out how to help the victims recover, they'll do that as quickly as possible. they want to get some information out as quickly as possible. they want to make sure they're accurate and they know what they're dealing with before they go forward. arthel: what sort of questions will they be asking some of the patrons there at the chabad synagogue, those who saw the man who may have heard screaming, et cetera. what are they asking those eyewitnesses? >> we're going to ask everyone exactly what they saw, exactly what they heard. identify it. document their statement. we're going to ask if there's any video or audio recordings they have, if they have physical evidence. the other thing we have to ask is how are you and support them either with physical wounds they might have sustained or get counselors there to assist them going forward, trying to deal with an emotional response to being in the middle of a potential attack and possibly being the victim of a crime and support them going forward. eric: tell us about -- eric shawn here with arrest they'll

-- about the new protocols we've seen put in place after the school shootings and other mass shootings when there is an incident of an active shooter. police are grad trained to go te gunfire many we don't know if police were posted outside the synagogue. we don't know if the synagogue had security, private security that was armed or not armed at the scene. we don't have any information yet at this time about what transpired exactly during the shooting. can you describe the changes that have so sadly had to be put on everyday life in this country because of mass shootings. >> we learned after columbine that law enforcement, the old surround and call out and wait for s.w.a.t. to go in and deal with the situation, wasn't going to be effective. people weren't taking hostages. they weren't making demands. they're killing people. now law enforcement will respond to reports of shots fired. the first officer on scene --

there was talk of we need to get four officers on-scene and get in a diamond formation and enter in and enter as safely as possible. i remember talking to my training team when we were talking about that, i said look, i'm not going to stand in front of a middle school while children are being shot and wait for other officers to show up. they said no, you're right, we wouldn't either. we started training the way we're going to fight. the first officer will go to the sounds of gunfire and take out the threat. that means we're going to run by victims who might be gravely injured and in need of first aid. our job as the police is to get there, neutralize the threat, once that's neutralized, then we can have other officers and first responders come in and give aid to the victim. eric: sometimes these shootings have expressed hatred and anger on social media. is this something that authorities can do without violating first amendment rights to try and track these people down? israel, for example, one thing -- they don't have our

constitution. if there are threats on social media among potential tear terrorists, they go and knock on the door and they hunt these things down. what are we doing now about that? what should we do in your judgment in dealing with potential threats that are expressed on social media before that develops into a potential deadly situation? >> so i think it's three-fold solution. you have to have physical security measures, whether that's access to control, armed or unarmed security staff. have you to have security training where people are able to look for something that's out of the ordinary. look at the situation in sri lanka last week. there was a gentleman who saw an individual with a large backpack coming to sunday services. there's no reason to carry a large backpack into sunday services. he intervened and said what are you doing. he said i'm doing a filming. he said you can't come in, you have to get permission. just a citizen, somebody attending the mass and decided they would intervene.

by doing that, the individual couldn't opinion trait and he took lives but he -- he also took the life of that individual who intervened against him but he didn't take as many lives as he would have if that person hadn't intervened. security awareness training is certainly important. a lot of times people are saying beforehand what they'll do on social media. we saw that in new zealand. there are systems in place and having good threat management programs that when organizations see people talking, acting, stating things on social media that are concerning, they need to have an intervention process. is it somebody who is a jihadist who is going forward and quite frankly coming out publicly and telling them you're aware of their plot and if they committed a crime hold them accountable for it is something we should be doing. sometimes letting them know that their words have been monitored and that people know what they're talking and thinking about is enough to deter somebody from doing this. there's all kinds of key words, threat language, systems can look at social media, search and

scrape for things that are concerning and put ani an algorm that puts it on the desk of law enforcement. eric: can authorities do that now? >> you can look at social media that anybody is posting to a public place. companies are looking for social media sentiment and private individuals as well. if you of post it publicly, authorities can look at it. there's all kinds of issues that come up what is the process. you don't want to search hashtag this group or that group. that's certainly not something law enforcement should be doing. but if somebody is putting a picture of a 0.9-millimeter up and has key words of harm mentioned on social media, having that pulled up and going to somebody for follow-up is something we should do, instead of having someone weeding through i don't thinweedingmill. eric: there are multiple

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north of san diego, the shooting happening at 11:30 this morning pacific time at the chabad synagogue, handful of police cars on the scene right now. they have detained one suspected shooter. there are injuries reported. in fact, there are four patients as we know that have been taken to the palamar medical center many we don't have updates on the conditions of their injuries or ages of the patients, et cetera. but nonetheless, here this is happening on the sabbath, right at passover, the final day of passover. and for more on this, we're going to bring in you now joel rubin, the president of washington strategy group and former assistant secretary of state and mr. rubin and his family are members of the tree of life synagogue in pittsburgh where there was a deadly shooting exactly six months ago today.

mr. rubin, i can't even imagine what your thoughts are, if you would just share your -- what's in your heart and your head right now, sir. >> well, thank you, arthel, for covering this and for including me. it's heart-shattering and very stunning to see this happen again so soon after the tree of life massacre. and the ch chabad synagogue that was victimized, what thing to know about chabad and the religious community there, they're the most peaceful religious community within the jewish community so it's really devastating, as you point out, the last day of passover, as well as a very special day, the end of an eight-day celebration of the jewish exodus from egypt and a real celebration. so it's a joyous day. and just like easter is a joyous you day as well, in sri lanka,

attacking people celebrating their religion, it's really beyond anything that huma human decency can comprehend. arthel: as we listen to you share your story, joel rubin, a member of the tree of life in pittsburgh, we're showing scenes, live pictures from the scene there. according to some analysis of one of our detectives, expert detectives, ted williams, he did tell us and it seems these pictures confirm his thoughts that it seems that they have the situation under control, as one gunman is in police custody. we don't know how many more are involved in this. we also don't know, mr. rubin, if this is a domestic violence situation or if in fact this is something more sinister, if this is something more calculated,

being a hate crime or some sort of relidge hat religious hate c. you lived through this six months ago. how do you even heal from that in the past six months and if you did, sir, what does this bring up now, six months later? >> well, arthel, i'm a fourth generation american, jewish american, grew up in squirrel hill, tree of life right around the corner. my parents were there at the synagogue on the friday night before the shooting. and they actually just went to visit a synagogue in toronto that had come to visit them to give them comfort. you really get shaken to your bones. it makes one commit even further and stronger to promoting tolerance and social justice and to try to heal the rifts we're seeing in our society, speak out against that. it's devastating to imagine that

someone feels such hatred for the other that they're willing to go and kill innocent people in cold blood. arthel: how do you feel -- one final question and i think eric wants to ask. i want to ask you quickly, how do you feel going to synagogue now? >> thank you forking askin than. i have three daughters a that go to synagogue and our school, there's increased police presence. you see police cars at synagogues across the country, you see the homeland security department stepping up security. you go because it's an act of demonstrating that we will not be cowed. we will not be intimidated by haters. it's heart-breaking to have that kind of dynamic. again, i go to synagogue and i'm proud to go and others who go to mosques and churches should never refrain because there are people that seek them harm. that's the way that we resist this. eric: you are a veteran.

we've seen the rise of anti-semitism around the globe. in france, we've seen allegations injected into politics. therhave been attacks against churches, christians massacred in the middle east and mosques. what type of conversations do you think we should start having? is it possible to change any demented minds that could undertake something like this when it is terrorism? >> i really hope so. in a strange way, this is all becoming very personal for me. my wife is a sri lankan american and we were in colombo not so long ago. the church there, the community there devastated the way they were, i think the only way out is for those of us in all faiths and all walks of life, to demand more from our leaders, to demand more from the rhetoric that we

have in our politics, to demand more from our religious leaders as well and to reach out to the different communities, to build bridges. and that's an ongoing, multiyear, extensive process. that's not an overnight thing. we can't expect an immediate solution. but synagogues have done outreach and churches have done the outreach to synagogues, into mosques since the tree of life massacre. that has to intensify and if we have to go beyond our comfort zones to really not just talk to people who agree with us but people who disagree with us. eric: joel rubin, president of the washington strategy group, former assistant secretary of state whose family as we've reported, members of the tree of life synagogue that suffered that horrible massacre in pittsburgh six months ago, exactly today. we were, joe and arthel and i reporting on that tragedy six months ago on the air here at fox news channel and it is our sad duty to report on this other

new shooting and the investigation occurring right now, just outside of san diego. joel, our thoughts and prayers are with you and the community and we thank you for joining us this afternoon. >> thank you, eric and arthel. arthel: thank you, mr. rubin. and i think, like you, eric, i was really surprised to hear mr, she's sri lankan american, so i can only imagine the emotions that all of this is stirring up in that family. eric: sadly, these days, it seems that no one is immune from this, if indeed this is a terrorist act. we will see what the police say as we await a police news conference. not yet scheduled but we will bring it to you live here on the fox news channel when we get it as we're covering the latest shooting, four victims taken to the local hospital. we will have much more on this when we come back. i can't believe it.

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arthel: continuing our breaking news coverage at the chabad of poway synagogue, taking place at 11:30 a.m. pacific time. we're going to go to mary ann rafferty, following this story from our west coast newsroom as we take a look at pictures there from the scene in poway, california. mary ann, what can you tell us. >> reporter: as you know, details are trickling in at this hour. the sheriff's office confirming by twitter a short time ago, they have a suspect in custody, local reports are that that suspect was arrested soon after the shooting. also, we heard from palamar medical center, they're confirming to fox news they received four patients so far. the shooting happening around 11:30 at the cha ba11:30 at they synagogue, where people were in

an all-day service. the hospital at this time not releasing information about specific injuries or any ages of the victims. the synagogue, just to give you an idea of where this is and what's around it, is a pretty large complex which includes a hebrew school and right next door to that there's an orthodox christian church and lutheran church, so many houses of worship in the area. this is a developing situation and so far police are asking residents to stay clear of the area. that's pretty common in situations like this. they're urging people not to spread any misinformation that could cause panic in the neighborhood as well. arthel, we'll definitely keep everyone updated on this as we get more new information. back to you. arthel: as you know too, you're out there in california, listen, poway is a lovely community there in, again, north of san diego. very quiet, very family oriented, certainly not a place where you expect any sort of

commotion like this happening, so just wanted to point that out there, about the lovely community of pompeo way. we'll be back in touch with you later on this hour. eric: vincent hill is a former atlanta law enforcement officer, who spent decades doing that. what is of note, this is the sabbath, it is also the final day of passover, so the celebration began at 11:00 a.m. this morning at the chabad. so it would likely be more crowded than usual for a normal sabbath day services, all to end with a dinner tonight at 7:00 p.m. what does this tell you, that a gunman comes in half an hour later at that time and allegedly starts opening fire? >> well, eric, in the words of rodney king, can't we all just get along? we can assume certainly that this has to do with the last day of the sabbath and that this is an attack against jews in the

community. but we can't take away from the fact that in 2017 when arthel and i covered the shooting in texas at a church where 26 people were killed, that was a domestic situation. so i think right now, eric, it's too early to tell what the motive is. it definitely doesn't look good it happened on this day but we can't say that specifically right now. i would wait for those details to come out. for the police department and their press conference. eric: how long do you think the questioning -- the suspect has the right to remain silent or a suspect could be spouting off at the mouth. >> yeah, absolutely. so it could go one of two ways. if he or she is giving those voluntary statements, police can get their information quite quickly. if they freeze up and say i don't want to talk, i want an attorney, police have to do other things, wait for the attorney, of course, then start getting search warrants for possibly the house, the vehicle that they arrived in, social

media, things of that nature. really it depends on how fast that questioning will go, that police can give that information to the public. you also have to interview witnesses that were there at the church. i would be interested -- we heard marianne say there was a -- it's a large campus. i would suspect there's video inside of that building as well. so i'd want to look at all of that. eric: video cameras have become so helpful and involved to show what happens and to aid law enforcement in the prosecution of these type of all sorts of crimes. how can we better protect ourselves, do you think, vincent? what should we be doing? houses of worship, schools, some houses of worship for example have police posted, squad cars posted during the high holy days, others have security guards. what type of measures would you suggest that houses of worship throughout the country and other

sensitive locations undertake? >> you know, eric, unfortunately i think we're at a point where no matter what your religion is, and that's been proven in charleston and other places, that a church, a place of worship is a soft target. so unwe need to unfortunately get into the realm of having security inside churches. i know a lot of mega churches have security guards there. they actually have off-duty police officers doing security. so i think that's the route we need to start going here, especially around these religious holidays. we saw it over easter where there was attacks in sri lanka. so we need to start going that route. arthel: vincent, we are getting word there is going to be a press briefing by the san diego police department as well as the sheriff's department out there at about an hour, happening about 5:30 eastern which would be about 2:30 pacific time and considering that this incident

took place at 11:30 in the morning, so they're bringing a press update to us in two hours after the incident. is there anything to glean from the timing of that? >> well, you know, it could just be an initial report to the public, arthel, to let them know what they have so so far, the number of victims. we're assuming four. we've seen in the past that can change. it may just be an update to, yes, it was a contained incident, we have one individual in custody, we're still questioning that individual, we're still looking into what the possible motive was, was this person working alone and things of that nature. arthel: okay. i was wondering if it's because it was just two hours, if that said something or if they waited five hours if it said something. probably to your point, they want to inform everybody because they've been -- they being the san diego sheriff's department, they've been good about updating the public, the local community there needs to know things like

road closures, et cetera, which will take place tomorrow which is sunday, day of worship for many people. so vincent hill, i'm happy to have you speak with us and provide your analysis. i'm sad that it's on this unfortunate day as we're reporting on breaking news outside -- out of poway, california, which is 20 miles north of san diego, a shooting taking place this morning at 11:30 a.m. pacific time at the chabad of poway synagogue. four patients were taken to the palomar health medical center, outside of san diego. we are once again reporting on a shooting, at this point police have one man in custody. we don't know the extent of the injuries of those who were harmed in the incident but we are following this developing story. we're going to have a press briefing in about 45 minutes. meantime, we're getting more eyewitnesses and

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arthel: continuing coverage of the shooting at the chabad of poway synagogue, 20 miles north of san diego. we can quote the mayor of poway, mr. steve voss, saying there has been one fatality and he is calling this a hate crime. again, this is according to the mayor of poway, steve voss, saying there has been one fatality and that he is calling this, quote, a hate crime. the shooting took place this morning at 11:30 a.m. pacific time at the chabad of poway synagogue. poway is 20 miles north of san diego. noting that this is the last day of passover. it is also a saturday, so this would be a day where you would have many worshipers there at the synagogue. four patients -- now perhaps

just three, because the mayor of poway is saying that one of those -- one person has died. but earlier four patients were taken to the palomar health medical center, according to the spokesman there. eric: we're joined by peter livey, the director of the anti-defamation league in the san diego area. peter, if you can hear me, a tragic attack, police not confirming that it's terrorism but the mayor is considering this a hate crime. one can assume it's a targeted attack, another one, this time against a synagogue in the area, on six months to the day of the tragic mass shooting at the tree of life synagogue. your thoughts as we witness this happen yet again? >> i am saddened. i am horrified once again that we see this type of hatred and violence directed at the jewish community. but it's not just the jewish

community. we've seen religious communities from sri lanka to new lee new zd throughout the country being attacked by individuals harboring extremist ideas. it's unacceptable. people in their houses of worship on their days of peace and particularly today being the sabbath day as well as the final day of passover, which is a celebration of freedom from oppression, to -- to be targets of such hatred. eric: peter, as you point out, it's the sabbath, the final day of passover, the ceremonies at the chabad scheduled -- were scheduled, they started at 11:0g all day until 7:00 p.m. tonight, resulting in a dinner. you have to realize how cold, calculating and evil and devious it is for someone to apparently pick that day, pick that time,

knowing that the ch chabad woule crowded potentially to carry out this type of attack. what are we doing wrong? how does the political class address this in a better way? what can we do to try and stop this? >> we need a multifaceted approach to stop such hatred and bigotry and violence against the jewish people and all religious groups that are targeted and all marginalized groups that are targeted. we need a deep and robust communication and working with law enforcement and training them in hate crimes and on indicators, such that everyone of our police departments throughout the country full educated and up-to-date on

extremists and their ideology and how they operate. we need all our soft targets and places of worship to be well-trained. i'm glad to say adl partners very well throughout the country with law enforcement and work as a liaison, linking law enforcement with local houses of worship to make sure that they have all the proper training. eric: what do you do? what does the adl do? i've seen in some places security, they're outside. some other synagogues or temples there are local city and town police officers who are posted in the squad cars. just because it's a sense of location. what type of actions does the adl do to try to protect the houses of worship? >> well, what we do is we really, being partners with law enforcement, we help train law enforcement, make sure they're up-to-date.

two, being in communication with particularly the jewish institutions, make sure that we have really solid relationships between law enforcement and the local jewish community. and then every community makes its own decisions which is important about how they want to cover security within their own institution. we're really trying to have open, meaningful conversations now, understanding within the jewish community what security has to look like. in the u.s. it looks different than much of the community around the world. we have to be asking ourselves the deep questions. are we protecting our people sufficiently and what more can we do to ensure such horrific incidents -- eric: they're so open and welcoming, that's part of the whole spirit and in fact the opewebsite of this location of s chabad of poway, they say they're warm and welcoming, you

don't have to have any affiliation, come in, the doors are open. that's the spirit of their religion. there is going to be resistance among some i would think to put a security guard or armed security guards, perhaps, at a front door, no matter what denomination that you are. but we're sadly in a sense, in that place in this country now. >> that's why we also have to look at the systemic issue. we have seen increased anti-semitism for years now. and adl is about to publish our recent audit, our newest audit on 2018 on anti-semetic incidents, which is still horrifically high. and what we've seen is assaults on jews also at record highs since we've been keeping records on this, since the 1970s. so what we need is a systemic approach. we need to look at what's happening in our greater communities, how can we educate

our kids and the young generation who no one is born a big got. bigot. they learn it somewhere. how can we help people unlearn that. how can we change the rhetoric in the greater community that there is no place for hate in any of our communities against any people that are marginalized based on race, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, country of origin. we have a huge multipronged effort that adl works in coalition and supports advocacy, community work, training and work with law enforcement. eric: sadly, we are reporting this again and that is certainly something that the body politic must address, especially with the rise of the anti-semetic rhetoric that we've been seeing and the allegations thereof in washington recently and what we've seen across the country as you point out. peter, i thank you for joining

us on this very sad day in which authorities say there's has been one person killed, a worshiper apparently at the a chabad of poway in california, three others shot, six months to the day of the tragic tree of life massacre. thank you. arthel. arthel: eric, thank you. we are bringing in jonathan watell, a former director of communications and spokesperson at the united states mission to the united nations. just your thoughts right now on everything that's happening here. we're reporting what's happening in poway, california, outside of san diego. we still have an active situation in sri lanka and we're six months away, off from the -- six months out from the tree of life synagogue shooting in pittsburgh. what are your thoughts? >> this is terrible not just for the individuals who are victims of this attack and we don't know

who the perpetrator is or are, we don't know that information, hopefully we'll know soon. but the result is this human tragedy that affects those injured or we hope no one's been killed here and the families, these are life-long injuries and issues that they have to deal with and for the country as a whole, these incidents have to resonate with every american. this is utterly unacceptable. we're supposed to be an evolved wealthy country that is supposed to be showing the rest of the world our greatness and our ability to be a nation of diversity and tolerance. this is an embarrassment for all of us to have this happening in our own backyards, just north of san diego, california. it's utterly appalling. eric: jonathan, we have a report that there has been one death, one person, apparently a worshiper shot to death in this apparent attack that the mayor of poway, steve voss, is calling

a hate crime. we've seen the rise of this type of language, just a moment ago peter levee indicating the number of anti-semetic attacks has increased to what he said basically is a new record, just a sad commentary on where we are today. >> it really is. it's depressing. it's a sign of the times. we should be past this type of thing. it's based on ignorance and evil that this type of thing happens. it doesn't matter whether it's a synagogue, a church, a mosque, a buddhist temple, whatever. we're a country that is supposed to be accepting of everybody. we're such a wonderful mix of human beings. we should be living in a world of tolerance, not hideous acts of violence like this that claim a life as you said, eric. it's utterly appalling. eric: how do we, as someone who has been in politics and journalism and politics for a long time, what is our first priority? what should we tackle first and

how do we change the conversation? >> the guest before from the a adl spoke about tolerance and ignorance. i think it's absolutely first and foremost important to get the message out that we shouldn't be having these attitudes amongst ourselves. whoever this is. we'll find out the origin. but this type of activity should not be part of our language. it should not be part of our culture. it's totally unacceptable and that starts with education. that starts as i heard the guest say, children are not born being bigots. this has to change. and there has to be greater emphasis put on tolerance, on understanding one another. so often we hear things said about other religions or other culture as we walk our days, arthel and eric, that we feel appalled about when we hear it. and it's our moral

responsibility as citizens of this great country to educate those people if we hear things like that or not just laugh it off as if it's not important. well, the truth is, this type of ignorance leads to killing and we all have a moral responsibility to stand for the values that we believe in. yes, it comes down to education in schools, outreach from various groups to try to ensure that no one misses the important messages that society is supposed to be giving but if we hear it, we have to as human beings, as kind, human beings, as evolved human beings, need to confront this ourselves. it's all of our responsibility. eric: jonathan, always good to have you. very well said. you have basically a laid out a task and responsibility for all of us. thank you. >> thank you. eric: we are covering -- it's past the top of the hour. we are covering this horrific

shooting, yet another synagogue shooting, occurred in the chabad, poway, california. authorities say one person has been killed. the mayor, steve voss, calling this a, quote, hate crime. the mayor said one person was killed when a lone gunman who is in custody and has been arrested, he walked into the chabad during the passover celebration, 11:00 a.m. celebration in the chabad that was going to result in a dinner tonight and opened fire. three people were wounded, taken to the hospital. we're awaiting a news conference that we should have from the san diego county officials within the hour. arthel: that shooting taking place about a half hour into the service. marianne rafferty is following the story from the west coast newsroom there. marianne. >> reporter: hi, arthel. as you have been mentioning, this shooting happening six months to the day of the tree of life synagogue shooting in pittsburgh. unfortunately, we know at least one dead, confirmed by the poway mayor, who is calling it a crime.

so far, it's unclear how many people were inside that synagogue at the time of the shooting. san diego sheriff's office confirming by twitter just a short time ago that they do have a suspect in custody, someone was arrested. the local reports are that that suspect was arrested right after the shooting happened. also, we heard from the palomar medical center where patients were taken. they confirmed they did receive four patients, now with that sad news that one person has died. that would be three people that they have there at the hospital. that's according to the mayor's confirmation that one person has died. the shooting happened at around 11:30 at the chabad of poway synagogue as worshipers were beginning a an all-day passover service. that was not scheduled to end until they had a passover meal at around 7:00 p.m. tonight. the synagogue, to give you an idea, it's in a pretty large complex. it also includes a hebrew school, also right next to it, there is a an or though orthodon

church and lutheran church. we want to remind everyone, this is a developing situation. so far, police are telling residents to just stay away from the area and with situations like this, they don't want people spreading misinformation which could cause panic in the neighborhood. eric. eric: marianne, thanks so much. arthel. arthel: marianne and eric, we have a phoner now with steve rogers, a retired detective of the nuttily, new jersey police department, former member of fbi joint terrorism task force. listen, steve, thank you for joining us. we don't know exactly what the motive here was, this lone -- one lone gunman is what the authorities are confirming, that they believe it was one person who committed these shootings and these now potentially fatal shooting as the mayor of poway, steve voss is saying there has been one fatality.

he is calling this -- the mayor of poway is calling this a, quote, hate crime. so based on the few details that we have that we've been able to report at this time, what is it that you're gleaning, steve rogers? >> well, it certainly looks like a targeted hate crime and that leads to the importance of the individual who is in custody. police no doubt as we're speaking are interviewing this individual and they're going to find out the motive. what is important is with anyone else involved in planning this attack, that's very, very important for the police to know. they're going to look at this individual, they're going to do forensic analysis pretty quickly on any computers this person may have, i'm sure there's search warrants being sought to be executed on this person's house, where this person works. but the fact of the matter is, i have to agree with the mayor on this one, it kind of fits a pattern of hate against a religious organization, in this case it's a jewish organization. i'd go down that road. i think we might found ou -- fid

out that the mayor was right. arthel: i'm getting reports in now that saying there was no known threat before this shooting took place there at the chabad of poway synagogue. >> well, you know, what questions i would have is -- i'm sure the police will be able to answer -- did they ever have an encounter with this individual. was he on or she, whoever this person is, on their radar. is there a history of any type of violence, is there a rap sheet. these are important questions that need to be answered. the police i'm sure will give the answer to this and hopefully there was no planning with anyone else to do this because you're always worried about copy cats, you're worried is anyone else going to try to do something like this and certainly it's got to stop. arthel: we had information very limited information, again, from the palomar health medical center, a suburb of san diego,

the spokesperson there only confirming that four patients were taken to that medical center and apparently they're keeping basically the place on lockdown and i'm told by some people in the medical field in san diego that cell phones have been taken from the doctors as they're working there at the hospital and in concert with the authorities out there to make sure that no misinformation is leaked out. does that make sense to you? >> makes a lot of sense. in fact, it's very important for police to immediately have the press conference. i understand they are soon. to get accurate information out because rumors start to spread, a lot of panic begins to spread. so i'll give police credit that they're getting as much information, accurate information as possible to get out to the public. of course, you certainly don't want to see an investigation compromised as a result of information that might go out without police knowledge.

so that sounds like they're doing exactly what they should be doing. eric: steve, the mayor of course saying one person has been killed in this attack, three injured as we said, calling it a hate crime. these are soft targets. what more can we do? this on the six month anniversary, marking the six month time of that horrible massacre in pittsburgh at the he tree of life in which 11 have been killed as we were reporting. we have on the last day of passover, a crowded facility in a chabad, more people there, seems like a time when someone who would be prone to doing this would take it on him or self self to do something like that. what other security steps should churches, should mosques, should synagogues take in order to try to stop this at the door if that is even possible? >> i'll tell you, your two prior guests, peter of the adl, he nailed it very well. the late '90s i worked with

the after dl from a law enforcement supeenforcement pere beginning to educate people. we had law enforcement going out to the neighborhoods, to get to know everyone in every neighborhood so people could pick up intelligence with regard to anyone who just might be trying to do something they shouldn't be doing. so education in our schools and in our neighborhoods, great relations with the police is very important. you talk about, eric, what happens if they come to the door. well, your best defense certainly is something that a lot of people i know don't want but unfortunately we're living in a time where there's going to have to be a well trained armed police officer at many of these institutions because you don't know. look, wintertime, people wear heavy coats, you don't know if someone has a weapon on them and if they come into your house of worship. i agree with your prior two guests, we must be proactive and i would hope that the adl and law enforcement, who are doing a

great job already, but they begin to step up, begin to think about community policing teams back out in na neighborhoods whe they have one on one reships he. eric: some municipalities do post squad cars and officers in front of synagogues and churches and other places of worship at sensitive times. arthel: we're getting information from san diego sheriff's department and they have set up an assistant center at poway high school there for any of the relatives looking for loved ones from the synagogue. they can go to the poway high school for information and for details. i point that out, of course we're speaking to an international audience but i point that out because i wanted to ask you, what is involved? we're talking about people who are r injured. there's a lot of psychological damage that can take place in situations like this. >> yes, there is. that's a good point you bring up. people should take advantage of what law enforcement is offering

them, psychological damage, even with young people -- how do parents explain to your children that you're in a house of worship and you're watching on the news you could be in danger. i would say to anyone, just go. don't be reluck tonigh retaken - reluctant to go. talk to someone. talk to the experts. there are good psychologists, psychiatrist, people who will offer therapy. many times people don't think they or their children or spouses may need assistance. it's important that they go to this and cue dose dos kudos to n the community who are setting these opportunities up for people. so please go. eric: steve, if you stand by for a moment, we have new information. people obviously who were there and eyewitnesses had heard shots ring out when this happened just about 11:30 pacific time this morning at the chabad during the passover ceremony. let's take a listen to what some of the folks have to say.

>> i don't recall the exact time but we're outside, front of our house and heard about six gunshots, a pause, some yelling and then another six or seven gunshots. eric: steve, that certainly vividly indicates the horror of something like this when you're gathered for a prayer service or in celebration a and gunfire suddenly erupts. >> to follow up one more thing, even if people were not there as we're watching this unfold on tv, you could call your local police department and say look, i just saw this on tv, i'm worried about my children, worried about my family, go and seek out the people and law enforcement and the community and i know cops all across the country will say we'll get you the help, get you the assistance. when you hear what you just described, what this man just described, believe me, it's something that impacts every person listening to this. go and get that assistance. i can't underscore that enough.

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okay. is everybody okay? is the rabbi okay? he said one of my friends -- they took her to the hospital and ar rabbi lost two fingers. in spite losing the finger, he was bleeding, he was trying to finish his speech and he was telling the community and all the people that be strong, what happened, we have to stand together. >> reporter: the san diego sheriffs' department confirming they have a suspect in custody and local reports are that that suspect was arrested soon after the shooting took place. we also heard from palomar medical center, a hospital that took patients, they confirmed that they did receive four patients, again, now with that mayor confirming that one person has died. that would be three people in that hospital.

we do know that the shooting happened at around 11:30 at the chabad of poway synagogue as worshipers were beginning what was going be an all-day passover service that wasn't scheduled to end until 7:00 p.m. tonight with a passover meal. to give you an idea of the synagogue, it's a pretty big complex. it includes a he hebrew school. there are couple other churches next door, an orthodox christian church, a lutheran church, several houses of worship in the area. this is developing. we are getting new information all the time. so far, police are, again, letting residents know to stay away from the area and also be careful about what kind of information you share because they don't want any misinformation leading to any sort of panic for people that live in the area. arthel. arthel: marianne, i got information to that point from some folks who work in the medical center, field there in san diego, that even the doctors at the p a alomar medical center, where the patients were taken, that they were told no

kind of keep their phones down, everything's on lockdown because as marianne is reporting, you have the san diego sheriffs on-scene, you have the san diego police department working this developing story and neither of those authorities -- no one wants to have any misinformation out there. so again, the he details are very sketchy. just want to tell you what we do have for you. this is happening at the chabad of poway synagogue which is -- poway is 20 miles north of san diego. this is also the last day of passover. it has been six months since the tree of life synagogue shooting in pittsburgh where 11 people were killed there. so far, according to the poway mayor, steve voss, there's unfortunately been one fatality there at the poway synagogue. the mayor, steve voss in poway, is calling this a hate crime. you can see on the left side of the screen, for he those in the car, i'm telling you that we're

looking at live pictures where they are setting up for a news conference. we are expected to hear from the police chief there in san diego as well as the sheriff and as soon as that news conference starts, we will bring that to you live here on fox news because we, like you, are waiting to hear any new information that we can get from them regarding this. eric, we were talking to our guests earlier and we mentioned, i believe it was steve rogers we were talking about this with, how not only is this -- there's a physical impact in terms of injuries, there is a psychological impact on this as well. so listen, we will take a break. a short break. but stay with us. because we'll continue our breaking news coverage of the shootings at the sha sh chabad y synagogue outside of san diego. "curiouser and curiouser," said alice. "the rabbit-hole went straight on like a tunnel for some way." "i've seen a cat without a gri, but a grin without a cat."

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strong chemo can put you at risk of serious infection. eric: we are continuing coverage of the shooting that occurred at a synagogue in poway, california. authorities now holding a news conference. let's listen. >.>> our consistent low condolee injured at the senseless tragedy this afternoon, 11:23 this morning a white male adulten shedder the chabad temple in poway, california. this individual was with an ar type assault weapon and opened fire on the people inside the synagogue. during the shooting, four individuals were wounded and transported to palomar hospital. sadly, one of the individuals succumbed to their wounds. the other three are in stable

condition at palomar. as the suspect was fleeing the temple, an off-duty border pa l patrol agent opened fire on the suspect but apparently did not hit him but struck the car as it departed the area. the people at palomar, one a fee mile juvenilmail -- female juven stable condition. sadly, an older female died, succumbed to her wounds obtained in the shooting. the suspect was shortly taken into custody and i'll turn it over to the chief from the san diego police department to give you the details of that arrest. chief. >> thank you, sir. good afternoon. as this incident was unfolding, a san diego police officer, k-9 officer was en route to the scene. he was wondering the san diego

police department's dispatch and the sheriff's dispatch, heard the call and started making his way towards this call. as he was en route, he also overheard chp scanner of a suspect who called into chp to report he was just involved in the shooting and his location which was i-15. as our officer was exiting the freeway, he clearly saw the suspect and the vehicle. the suspect pulled over, got out of the car with his hands up and was immediately taken into custody by the san diego police department. as the officer was placing this 19-year-old male into custody, he clearly saw a rifle sitting on the front passenger seat of the suspect vehicle and the suspect as i said was taken into custody without further incident. >> this investigation will be led by the san diego county sheriff's department but it will be a joint investigation with the san diego police department and the federal investigation. with us this afternoon is acting

special agent in charge, omar mizel. omar. >> first and foremost, we would like to offer deepest condolences to the victims of this tragedy. as soon as we were made aware of the incident, the fbi deployed resources immediately to the scene. we've deployed all relevant assets to assist with this investigation. we're working closely with our local, state and united states attorney's office on the investigation. and with that i'll turn it back over to you. >> san diego county sheriff's department provides law enforcement services to the city of poway. we're joined this afternoon and would like to say a few words by the mayor of poway, steve voss. >> i want you to know, this is not poway. the poway i know comes together

as we did just a few weeks ago in an interfaith event. we always walk with our arms around each other and we will walk through this tragedy with our arms around each other. we have deep appreciation for those who showed courage at the chabad, deep appreciation for the law enforcement agencies that responded so quickly. we will get through this. our thoughts and prayers will be with the families and those who are investigating. poway will stay strong. and we will always be a community that cares for one another. >> the anti-defamation league and our trauma intervention teams set up a family assistance center at poway high school, be available to anybody that wants their services. so i would commend people in the community to come together and maybe meet at poway to talk

about the grief that we're all suffering right now. we will be back in about two hours with more details as the investigation unfolds. i'll take a few questions if you have any right now. >> sheriff, do you know any he details about the suspect that you can give us and maybe even a motivation for this? >> we don't -- we're not going to he release that right now. it's in the process of being interviewed by homicide investigators from the sheriff's department and the fbi. we'll have those he details det. >> [ indiscernible ] >> we have copies of his social media posts and his open letter and we'll be reviewing those to determine legitimacy of it and exactly how it plays into the investigation. >> [ indiscernible ] >> i don't have the exact number of shots that were fired. the crime scene is being done as we speak. >> do you know ifs he's connected to the chabad. >> i do not know. >> do you he know where he came

from? >> we have an address in san diego. s he's in the city of san diego. he's an adult male from the city of san diego. >> [ indiscernible ] are people able to come out? >> >> there are a lot of people at the synagogue ready to be interviewed. i heard close to 100 people waiting to be interviewed. i couldn't give you the exact number. there's about 100 people to be interviewed right now. i couldn't tell you, sorry. not that i know of. i don't -- i don't know all the details and the victims. we are not going to discuss that right now while the investigation is ongoing. [inaudible] >> my understanding he was inside the synagogue when the shooting broke out.

i don't know the details. >> last question, guys. >> we will be back in about 2 hours hopefully with more details. thank you very much. arthel: okay, that was san diego sheriff taking questions there from reporters in the san diego area. what we found out in news conference is that the suspect entering the shooting starting at 11:23, white male adult entered the chabad synagogue, authorities kept copies of social media post. he shot inside the synagogue, he does have san diego address, according to authorities. lone shooter who does have an diego address, he is in police custody. meanwhile sheriffs saying that 100 people to be interviewed by law enforcement regarding what took place at the chabad poway

synagogue 20 miles from san diego at 11:30 this morning. 4 people were injured in shooting, one person has passed since and 3 remain hospitalized there at medical center there. another suburb of california. we can tell you this, that the mayor of poway called this a hate crime and we heard him speak momentarily, short time ago, he said, quote, this is not powaw and expressed deep appreciation for first responders and poway is a community that cares for one another. eric: served as to -- forensic

investigator. 19-year-old suspect, white male walked in with assault weapon just over passover celebrations began and going through media posts. that sounds like this is someone who potentially is motivated by ant semitism and/or hatred. what do you make of the details and the fact that he fled off duty patrol officer shot at him and voluntarily surrendered on the highway to another officer. >> first and foremost proves that he's an absolute coward. he goes and attack it is most vulnerable of the vulnerables, people worshiping in their synagogue and opens fire the fact that there were 100

people in there tells me that the border patrol agent saved the majority of their lives and acting the way he did. i really, really would like to thank him. secondly, when he was confronted shortly thereafter by the san diego police officer who pulled him over, i just -- my heart goes out to that officer because he had to pull someone over knowing full well that he had long gun in the car and ability to use it, so, you know, the fact that he went along with the officer's wishes is a blessing to me. what i would like to talk about, of course, i spoke to you about it 6 months, arthel, unfortunately, it's about security that are available from several entities but these people go in, some free, some have to pay for, the police

department, the fbi, the program may offer some, we go to places of worship, all places of worship and we look at any of the vulnerabilities that might be present. we talk about, you know, you have the security training, maybe lock the doors when service begins, do not allow backbacks or large bags in and make specific recommendations made on whatever your facility entails. eric: we have law enforcement post cars in synagogues. some have hired their own security and some in the past members of congregation these are warm spiritual houses of

worship yet we are living a sad and tragic reality in this country, but this does happen. we don't know if there was a guard or an officer posted, we do know that there was an armed off-duty patrol officer who was apparently part of the services and opened fire. >> correct. my gut will tell me that if it wasn't security person the particular offender may not have engaged because of the way he reacted by border patrol agent and police officer, however, that doesn't mean much because there are plenty of situations there we have active shooter scenarios and the law enforcement people that shot at as well as anybody else. i do agree with you. going to my church every sunday and i will tell you what,

unfortunately i would love for my church to be a place where i didn't have to worry and it's not. arthel: i understand what you're saying, indeed. i want to update our audience that according to associated press authorities say it was a woman who died from wounds in the shooting there at the chabad synagogue in poway, california. if you can standby for us whether he recollects show reaction from the president momentarily, when we have that i may have to interrupt you, in the meantime i have something in my mind, you have authorities out there with 19-year-old man in custody, the shooter according to sheriff's department out there, you know, he's 19 year's old, have access to social media post. i want to ask you in a situation like this, presumably he was at

home, what happens in a case like this with the parents, how much information can they provide police, what happens if they saw signs, if they knew something beforehand, walk me through that potential thread there? >> well, arthel, that's a very good question and the fact of the matter is he does live at home, he probably lives in his mother's basement. there are very, very few instances where situations like this unfold where there were sign posts along the way, talked to people and when i talked about ability assessment, those are the things that we talk to people about, when you see, this is what they see but like most parents when we see things, we

try to -- physically we don't act right away like we should but -- i think what you're asking me -- arthel: maureen, i'm asking you that, hold onto that thought. ii want to take a break from you and want to go to president trump and his remarks. >> people that were affected, the families, they're loved ones by the obviously looks right now based on my last conversation, looks like a hate crime. hard to believe, hard to believe with respect to synagogue in california near san diego, we are doing some heavy research, we will see what happens, what comes up. at this moment it looks like a hate crime but my deepest sympathies to those affected.

looks like the person was apprehended. no more danger and law enforcement is doing a fantastic job, fantastic job. i'm heading tout wisconsin right now. we have a lot of people and they've been lined up for a day already and i look forward to that. i just left as you probably know left with prime minister abe of japan, we had great talks this morning, we played a very fast round of golf, we had a meeting afterwards and looks like it's doing well, great deal, our relationships, our military, they are buying the best you can buy, we make the best and they are buying the best but they are buying a lot of it, a great relationship with japan, very good, we are getting those straightened out and my deepest

sympathies, people, families, everybody affected by the shootings at is synagogue in california. thank you very much. arthel: that is president trump offering his condolences there to the people of the habad poway synagogue and praising authorities in san diego as he heads off to marine one, he will be heading off to air force one and jumping on a flight to wisconsin. by the way, we will have all of the coverage of the president little bit later tonight as we await rally from the president. he did do a great job of trying to, you know, he's explaining himself, i'm very much aware of what is happening in san diego, i'm on top of it but i'm still going to go where people have been waiting and this has been planned. right now i want to bring in the mayor of poway, he's on the phone right now and one of the things, mayor, that you said in

the news conference about 20 minutes ago, you said, quote, this is not poway. >> no, it's not. poway was known as being the industry and country, city of 50,000 folks and we will put our arms around each other and walk-through this strategy and be there for anyone who needs us. arthel: where were you mayor when you first heard about the shooting this morning? >> just a few miles away. i turned around and came directly to the site. arthel: when you showed up, what did you see? >> i saw law enforcement officials, the sheriff's department, san diego county sheriff's department, from the city of san diego, the turnout, the response was rapid and decisive, the shooter, alleged shooter is in custody and now we need to stand with the families of those who were injured. arthel: absolutely, mayor vaus,

did you have a chance to speak this morning to members of the synagogue? >> no, i did not, however, i know the rabbi quite well, i was with him a few weeks ago. we had an event where we were talking about safety of community. arthel: really? >> i consider him my brother and i will stand with he and his congregation and we will walk as i said shoulder to shoulder through this. arthel: can you tell us about the conversation you had in terms planning for safety there? >> just to give the congregation heads up of awful times that we live and what to do, i believe that played a critical role in not having more injuries, now, details will come out soon, this could have been much, much worse but this community came together as we always do. eric: mayor, do you know what precautions they took?

was it a squad car outside, did they have security armed or not for these types of event that is occurred today? >> i don't know that and i wouldn't want to speak to it. eric: tell us about the people and the community, what it is like. >> here we are at the end of passover my understand is there were two prayer services going on. one of the centers of our community, just a few weeks ago we had interfaith gathering to find common ground and we worked very, very closely, tight-knit community. this won't change our love for one another and how we will support each other. arthel: absolutely. mayor of poway, we thank you for your time, you have our thoughts and prayers, i have been to poway, it is a fine community and i know that you will stand tall once again after this horrible situation there.

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prosecute the guilty. former prosecutor, akisha, the mayor told us a few moments ago this was a hate crime, how does prosecutor start prosecuting as hate crime and not just as a -- >> okay, in order for the prosecutors to prevail in a hate crime situation, they have to not only prove that the defendant committed the actual crime of murder, the prosecutor also has to prove beyond all reasonable doubt to the jurors that this person was motivated by bias and sometimes that's difficult and that's why you'll see the law enforcement looking at the defendant's or the suspect's facebook page, looking through his computers, anything that gives indication that this is motivated by hate and this suspect clearly did this out of bias and nothing else. eric: does the suspect have to talk?

they are going through social media pages and if he does have expressions, then does that make it basically hate crime? >> it makes it much easier and ultimately up to whether the jurors believe that and i feel that with this type of crime, these crimes are happening unfortunately too much and jurors are tired of it, society is tired of these crimes and they will find as hate crime. eric: we are looking, you see the video of the suspect's house, in the city of san diego, 20 miles south from poway and the suspect no name yet to be released identified as 19-year-old white male presumably lived with his parents, we will get confirmation about that when we get it. authorities say he went in with

a ar-type of assault rifle something that we have seen in synagogues and churches and schools especially on marking of horrible massacre at the true of life synagogue. how can the social media, how can that help to try to make a case and how do we stop it, we had a guest earlier that said law enforcement because social media is public can go through this type of stuff, how do you not infringe on the first amendment to take action if you see something that's insightful, dangerous and lead to potentially wonder if the person could pose a danger? >> well, basically law enforcement needs to be proactive in situations like this, so when they watched the media or somebody seen someone posted on social media page they need to alert authorities and authorities need to investigate that person because like i said,

this is happening much too often and it can be prevented if we stop it before it happens. and social media, it's a big, big powerful tool for law enforcement and for prosecutors and as far as whether this suspect, he has fifth amendment right not to incriminate himself, if he's mentally ill he may not realize that he's helping law enforcement but i hope he's giving statements to give justice, have justice serve for these victims and their family members. arthel: kisha, as you look live pictures outside of san diego home, kswb fox 5, 19-year-old white male, kisha, presumably lives at home with his mother or parents or some sort of parental person, relative, is any way to tie culpability to a parental

guidance, not a parent but some person who takes care of that -- eric: guardian. legal -- arthel: eric, thank you very much. is there any way to hold them responsible? >> well, because the suspect is an adult he's 18 or older, you can't tie it to his parents unless you can prove that they assisted in some way of allowing him or assisting him with committing the crime, so even fi found things in his room where he resided in the home and the parents knew about it or didn't know about it, it depends on what it is and how they allowed him to commit the crime. if they knew something, they should have culpability. if he's in some way incapacitated and they do have guardianship over him because of mental illness or anything like that, they could be held liable or culpable if, again, they knew

that he was going to do something like this or they assisted in any way, whether getting the weapon, you know, helping him to figure out a plot in committing this crime, so it's very difficult. arthel: yeah, i'm certainly not saying that the legal guardian is to blame here or in any of the situations, a question as we are discuss to go -- discussing hate crimes. one woman died from injuries there inside the synagogue while a girl and two men are in the hospital. now we have a little more information about the patients who are being treated at medical center in escondido. kisha, any final thoughts. >> my heart goes out to the victims and their family members and members of that synagogue and the community, i do want end

to hate crimes and i feel the punishment should be severe because it's not right, it's wrong and i hope that -- i do believe law enforcement is doing a wonderful job if n that they do have the suspect in custody. arthel: kisha, thank you very much. we thank you for joining us here. it is unfortunate that we are covering a shooting again at a synagogue, yet again, stick around in fox news jon scott is up next of 2-hour edition of fox report. eric: language and rhetoric around the country and around the world. stay with fox news channel as we continue reporting of this e. aleve. proven better on pain. (kickstart my heart by motley crue)) (truck honks)

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jon: we begin with synagogue shooting outside of san diego, police arrested a white 19-year-old gunman killing one and injuring 3 more including a little girl. i'm jon scott, this is the fox report. the shooting happened just before 11:30 pacific time this morning. the suspect caught and detained shortly after, we are learning more now about how police on and off duty were able to locate and arrest the suspected gunman. marian is following all of this from our news room. >> hi, jon, the shooting happening 6 months to the day from the tree of life synagogue shooting that happened in