he's fine, we are happy to report. in the meantime, most-watched, most trusted, most grateful you spent the evening with us. good night from washington. i'm shannon bream. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." wide spread political violence erupted in venezuela today. two factions both claiming to be the legitimate government of the country.. the beginnings of what could easily become a brutal civils war. thousands of miles to the north, the foreign policy standpoint pushes for an american intervention. u.s. troops in venezuela, and other country in a faraway place. suddenly that looks entirely possible. much more on this developing story but we want to beginel wih an assessment on what is happening in venezuela right now. for that we will go to trace gallagher -- i'm correcting that. we are going to go to venezuela.

there he is. thank you for joining us. what is happening? >> violence erupted across the capital after a very dramatic morning. v guaido urged venezuelans to take part in operation freedom in the final push to topple nicolas maduro. guaido said he had the support of the brave soldiers and he calls on the military to help him end nicolas maduro's rule trying to encourage them that they will be on the right side of history if they were to support him. violence followed as people took to the streets, running clashes between opposition supporters and armed military vehicles as protesters threw rocks, they were repelled by tear gas.

at one point an armored car drove directly into a crowd and buses were set on fire here. dozens of people have been reported injured across the country. the political situation, meanwhile, remains incredibly fluid. may 1st, may day, the traditional workers holiday comes tomorrow. schools and offices will be closed and no plans announced by the opposition so far to take to the streets. >> tucker: juan carlos lama,s live from caracas, thank you for that. what you just heard is a lot going on but there is also much we don't know. what we do know is venezuela's current government has done a poor job for providing for itsas own people. venezuela has the largest oil reserves yet it remains one of the most impoverished and dangerous places on the planet. that is beyond dispute. everything else is up for debate. will the overthrow of maduro

make venezuela a more stable, prosperous country? more to the point, would it be good for the united states? lots of people claim to know the answer to that but they don't, they have no idea. if recent history is any guide, nothing will turn out as expected, few things ever do, but that has not stopped the geniuses in washington or slowed themn down. this afternoon, they agreed that the united states ought to jump immediately into the venezuelan mess, watch florida senator rick scott explains. >> do you think that our presence there would make a difference?? >> absolutely. i was down at the border last w wednesday and this is pure genocide. maduro is killing his own citizens. >> is it worth, however strongly you feel, losing american men and women to do just that? >> here is what will happen. if we don't win today, we will have syria in this hemisphere, s so we can make sure something happens now or we can deal with this for decades to come.

if we care about families, if we care about the human race and ourr: fellow, worldwide citizens that we have to step up and stop this genocide. >> tucker: i want to make sure that it is clear. if you care about families and the human race, if you want to stop genocide, we will send your children to venezuela without even thinking about it. you will just do it, assuming you are a good person.od if you don't care about families, if you despise human happiness and support genocide, then you want to join satan's team and embrace isolationism,m, the single most immoral of all worldviews. that is what they're telling you. the message is received. before the bombers take off, let's just answer a few quick s questions, starting with the most obvious. when was the last time we successfully meddled with the political life of another country? has it ever worked? how are the democracies we set up in iraq and and lybia

afghanistan? how would venezuela be different? please explain and take your time. are we prepared for the refugees the venezuelan war would produce?ll a study by the brookings institution found that the collapse of the government could force 8 million people to leave the country. many of them would come here. lawmakers in this country propose giving them temporary protected status, that would let even illegal arrivals live and work here in effect permanently as many have before with no fear of deportation. are we prepared for that? are we prepared to absorb millions of new venezuelan migrants, all of them great people, no question, but many with little education or skills or english. how is any of this good for the united states? our sanctions on venezuela have spiked our gas prices and that hurts our struggling middle class virtually more than anything we could do so what is the point of doing that? so our lawmakers can feel like good l people? and if they are indeed good people why do they care more about venezuela than this country, the one they run? they are happy to send the military to south america at the first site of chaos but u.s.

troops to our own border to stop hundreds of thousands uninvited? no way, they tell us, that is crazy talk. what is the thinking here? we are joined by the congressman of florida, thank you for coming on. i can see a lot of ways thishe would be helpful to factions within venezuela. how would intervening in venezuela help your constituents, american citizens? >> when you talk about foreign policy, the number one principle has to be the national security interest of the united states. that is above anything and everything else. the question is, does the situation in venezuela pose a national security threat? we know that there 20-25,000 cubans in venezuela and that there are russian troops in venezuela and that we have ukrainian presence inla venezuela and we know that we have chinese presence in venezuela, so is that a potential risk for the national

security interest?t? absolutely. the question is, if that's the case, and some may disagree that having all those folks there is a problem, i don't. i think it has a national security threat to the united states. if that's the case, what steps should the united states to to protect t our national security interest? >> tucker: no one is surprised that the world's bad guys are congregated in a country likead venezuela. we have seen similar things happen many times in history. the question is, does intervening help the situation and does it help united states? that is the really simple question. >> that is a very good question and i would tell you that military intervention always has to be the last thing. >> tucker: rick scott, your senator, is saying it should be the first thing. if you care about humanity and want to stop genocide, we need to intervene. why is that not crazy? >> i think what rick scott is aware of, in my opinion, there

is a huge national security threat to the united states and again -- >> tucker: what exactly is the threat? please be specific. >> to be specific, when you have a country that you now have middle easterns with real legal venezuelan passports that we have found, you have hezbollah, cuba, you have iran, you have russia, china. imagine if this regime that is international pressure survives, is it or is it not potentially a green light, an open door for the russians and for the chinese and for others to increase their activity against our national security interest right here in our hemisphere? >> tucker: yeah, no. it just kind of hard to see what you're talking about. are you suggesting they will invade? >> the closest we ever came to nuclear war was because the russians put nuclear missiles in cuba.

>> tucker: are you saying the russians will put nuclear missiles in venezuela? >> what i am suggesting is that they are there. >> tucker: why should i care if they are there? no offense but -- >> that is a very good question. why should we care about the chinese or russians are doing anywhere around the world? i think particularly we should care about what they are doing in this hemisphere, our own hemisphere. >> tucker: the chinese have built infrastructure in virtually every country. >> that is a different animal. t >> tucker: i don't think it is. we haven't done anything about it. they have a small number of russian advisors there and i am supposed to think it's a threat because why? no one really explains. why should i not be worried about 8 million people leaving venezuela and some of them coming here? why should we give any of them temporary protective status? >> we clearly should. the reason that they are fleeing in venezuela, from venezuela -- 20 years ago, venezuela was one of the wealthiest countries on the planet, because of this t

tyrannical regime, anti-american regime, with close ties to the worst thugs -- >> tucker: i'm not defending maduro. i am wondering, our interest is not to have gas prices spike? >> let me get to your point. the reason venezuelans are leaving is because of that regime. it is the largest refugee crisis this hemisphere has ever seen and we spend a lot of time obviously focusing on the middle east. there are more refugees that have left venezuela than syria. >> tucker: i get it. that is why i am worried about making it worse. >> you do not make it worse helping the venezuelan peoplet get rid of the regime that is causing that. >> tucker: if you make it here illegally we will let you stay and give you amnesty, which is what you have said. you suggested temporary protected status for venezuelans that are here illegally. why is that not an inducement? >> that is a very good question. the reason the venezuelans are in colombia and brazil, over

3 million have already left venezuela and the forecasts are if the maduro regime persists, we will have 5 million leaving. that is caused by that regime. if all we care about is stopping that from happening, we have to do what we can to make sure the regime is no longer there. >> tucker: to make sure that the regime stays but to make sure that it doesn't stay like this, fires. let me ask you quickly. everyone in washington bipartisan and not just you. with the sanctions on venezuela because the government is bad. i think the government is bad, i agree, fine. those sanctions have increased the price of gasoline for middle-class americans because why exactly? how do they benefit? i'm confused by that. >> the venezuelan oil company, the proceeds of that money and funds go directly to the regime and they use it for not only repressing their people,

anti-american activities. >> tucker: what is more anti-american then rising gas prices? doesn't that actually hurt americans more than anything that venezuela has ever done? >> if you look at the production of venezuelan oil, it has been dropping dramatically because it is a socialist disaster country. even though the revenue is going down, 100%, pretty much 100% of the revenue is used by theen venezuelan regime to do nefarious things. let me tell you, i commend the trump administration because they have done a very responsible job trying to pressure the regime, help the venezuelan people to avoid a catastrophe that that one day it might force the united states to intervene. >> tucker: i hope that day as far away. thank you for explaining that. >> great pleasure to be here. >> tucker: thank you. colonel douglas macgregor is retired u.s. army colonel, a frequent guest on the show and he joins me tonight.

this is no way a defense of the maduro regime, i would never defend that. i'm not sold on the idea that i should feel afraid of the venezuelan government. >> keep in mind we have the washington war lobby which is bipartisan and has decided we should intervene. that is something we should be concerned about. our interests there is not so crystal-clear. first of all, we don't need to control the venezuelan oil market, which is on the minds of many people right now inside the beltway. we are a net exporter of oil so we don't need to reinsert our dominance in that market, whichh we were dominant in for many decades. the second thing is, it's a lose-lose proposition for us. we are playing puppet master. we want to replace maduro the communist with guaido the socialist. guaido will inherit all of the problems that brought chavez to power. a huge underclass that wants toi be forever dependent upon the government and expect to be cared for. he has to do that and if we are going to put him into power and

keep him in to power we have to spend billions of dollars to keep him there so we turn venezuela into the 51st state effectively, pouring resources into keeping him there. over time, our history in latin america is a disaster. we will incur the hostility of a population and they will want us to leave and if he ishe viewed as a puppet, he will have trouble lasting. >> tucker: i have done 50 interviews on the subject of immigration and they say, why should the united states absorb a third of the population of el salvador? if you push them far enough, theyey will say because the united states interfered in the internal affairs of el salvador and therefore we have a moral obligation to accept the population. why is that not going to happen in 20 years from now with venezuela? >> we don't know what will happen except venezuela will look a lot like it does today, contrary to popular belief. our intervention there isn't going to change a damn thing. here's what is important, because the congressman brought this up. all the threats he discussed are inin mexico.

they are actually in greater numbers in hezbollah, and terrorist organizations connected to the middle east and africa, they are greater and stronger in mexico than they are in venezuela. the venezuelan army ships drugs. >> tucker: you're not allowed to criticize mexico. > we are doing it. they work with the mexican cartel to ship those drugs into the united states, whether maduro is in charge or guaido is in charge, the venezuelan army will continue to do that because it is a lucrative trade and that is how the generals enrich themselves. >> tucker: the world is not as simple as bret stephens says it is. i'm taking notes. thank you very much. >> good to see you. >> tucker: the democratic party is now completely woke. your moral worth isn't with your actions but how you look, so why is joe biden leading the presidential race as a democrat? it is a puzzle and we have the answer after the break. ♪

♪ >> tucker: joe biden's third try for the white house has been underway for only a week but already he iss the clear front runner. a new cnn poll of democrats and liberal-leaning independents has 39% supporting joe biden. bernie sanders, who we assumed would be the front runner, is a distant second at 15% and the rest of the field barely even shows up in the numbers. based on that poll anyway the way the odds are pretty good that a year from now joe biden will be the nominee. what will that mean for america? right now, biden says his

motto is a little different than that of the sitting president. listen. >> the president has a motto,, make america great again. do you have one? >> make america moral again. make america return to the essence of who we are, the dignity of the country and people treating our people with dignity. >> tucker: make america moral again. [laughs] that ought to make you nervous. whenever politicians, of all people, lecture you about morality, "i am a good person, be like me," you should be nervous. just last week joe biden, he was praising antifa, violent lunatics in black face masks are more moral than you are. what exactly is biden's plan to make america more moral? silly question, he doesn't have a plan. last month, he was attacking due process as a tool of white male supremacy. biden is the kind of guy who will say anything if he thinks

it is useful. he probably doesn't understand half of what he says but he is winning anyway and that raises a very interesting question about the democratic party and it's nothing to do with joe biden. if there's one thing that unites democrats, it is attacking people for their sex and their skin color. just today, joy behar explained that even impoverished white men are in fact privileged, way more privileged than oprah, and must therefore be punished. >> we have a problem in the country sometimes with white guys who don't have a lot, they are struggling, and they don't see themselves with having white privilege, so that is where thes conversation needs to go with people like that. they don't really see that. even though you are having a hard time, you still have a privilege if you are white. even if you are poor. >> tucker: even as you are dying with a fentanyl o.d., collecting disability and

sitting in your trailer, you should know, according to joy behar, that you are privileged. white male privilege is ubiquitous. even white men with no privilege at all have that kind of privilege. all democrats agree with that. but here's the funny thing, it's hard to understand, democrats keep telling pollsters that they prefer white rich men for president, the most privileged white men. t today it is joe biden, tomorrow bernie sanders or beto o'rourke or pete buttigieg. it probably won't ever be stacey abrams or al sharpton, ever in a million years it will not be them. what is going on here? could it be that once again the left is projecting? they see white privilege everywhere but in fact it only really exists inside the democratic party. quentin james is the founder of collective pac and he join me tonight. thank you for coming on. will you unravel this mystery os

white privilege for me? even people dying of fentanyl ods are priveledged if they are white and male? that is bad. joe biden, bernie sanders, pete buttigieg, who was literally a rhodes scholar, are the front runners? how does this work? >> i think we are dealing with different things. we are talking about privilege. if you lookedli in the political system, white men have more power than any other group in this country. >> tucker: in the democratic party they do. >> but period, of many, of both parties. when it comes to the democrats choosing the nominee, it is early, but joe biden has a clear advantage. t he has the most name recognition and the most experience in the field. he's leading in the polls and that will hold for a while until you see more candidates get out there and get organization.

i think right now bernie sanders has the best organization of all the candidates, but when it comes to identity politics, people care about issues first and foremost. it is about the issues. joe biden and barack obama -- >> tucker: these guys don't disagree with anything, peteuc buttigieg, or whatever his name is, the mayor of south bend, indiana, doesn't have any organization. he came out of nowhere and the party fell in love with him because he was a white man. looks like to me, i don't see another explanation. why isn't stacey abrams, who had the last election stolen fromla her, according to democrats, who went to yale, why isn't she the front runner? i'm asking a sincere question. i believe in merit but the ondemocrats don't. they believe in race so why is she not the front runner but these rich white guys are? >> that is ludicrous.

>> tucker: it's not ludicrous. >> if stacey abrams wants to run for president, she will do so and do really well. we have the most diverse pool of candidates we've ever had in history. we are seeing progress. we have the most diverse congress elected last cycle. we are heading in the right direction with our country but just because joe biden or bernie sanders is leading it doesn't mean democrats don't value diversity. >> tucker: is a value diversity, then why are the two leading candidates elderly rich white men? i'm using the same standard the democrats use all the time when they look at aar picture and the are too many white people and "we hate white people."" they are always mad about this. why not live by their own standards? >> joe biden has the most name recognition and experience. he was right there next to the first black president for eight years. we have the most diverse pool of candidates in history and we will see were the primary goes over the next couple of months. >> tucker: are you bothered? >> i am encouraged.

what we are seeing from the party is more ideas, more candidates stepping up and candidates of color running for president., we've never had this type of a pool before who were viable running for president. >> tucker: last question. now i'm being sincere. i was yanking your chain a little bit. isn't it time to stop with the racism and white privilege stuff attacking people on the base of their skin color? can we call a truce? >> sincerely, i wish we could, but what we have been seeing under this president is a rise in white domestic terrorism, a rise in white nationalism. >> tucker: do you have to attack white people? >> no, i think it is the opposite. we are seeing that people like dylann roof are getting more radicalized. >> tucker: i wonder why. even if you are poor we hate you because of your skin color. you don't think that radicalizes people?

maybe a little bit? >> we need to get more specific and more direct. >> tucker: stop being so racist. >> we are all looking for a more unified country. >> tucker: on that, i agree with i you. thank you so much. brit hume is fox's senioric political analyst and with us tonight as someone who has known the former vice president for many years, and leaving aside the dumb questions of identity politics, which are central to the democratic party but are irrelevant in my view, will you assess biden as a candidate? do you think this is real and his numbers will stay up? do you think he wants to run and can he won? >> before i say anything else i can't help but note in passing that the acronym for his slogan make america moral again would be "mama." [laughs] it would have been said in the past the democrats are the mommy party and the republicans are the daddy party. >> tucker: went right over my

head. >> i suspect that would cement that idea in the voters minds.su i think joe biden will be with us awhile and he has tried this twice before. this is his last chance at the advanced age. he's about my age, a little older by a few months. he is now 76. he has credit with a lot of democrats for being a loyal vice president to president obama, whom they all appreciated, and he has been around a long time and he has been pretty liberal. he has fought on the side of the left on most issues. he's got some standing. remember, for all the energy that is coming from the young wing from the democratic party, alexandria ocasio-cortez and the rest, most democrats are young. they are older. they are comfortable with joe biden. he is able to raise money so he will be with us a while. he has flamed out the other two times he tried it. in 1998, he was found to plagiarize huge chunks of his

speech by a british labour leader and that did it for him then. there were also questions about things in his resume and then when he ran in '08, he finished fifth in iowa that was the end of him. he has never been a tremendous effective candidate but he has more experience now. he is also older. we will see how this plays out but he will be with us. >> tucker: it sure seems that way. he has gone up faster than i would have expected given the rhetoric of his party. brit hume, thank you very much for that. >> okay, tucker. >> tucker: the big tech companies have automated virtually everything in american life, cars, homes, millions of jobs and now amazon has a new computer that can fire you. no human gets involved. you are fired by a machine. welcome to america, that is next. ♪ ome to america, that is i have a vision correction number,

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>> tucker: a prosecutor in chicago allowed jussie smollett to beat criminal chargers for his fake hate crime but the actor's career has been deeply damaged anyway, probably over. 20th century fox television, now owned by the fox corporation, smollett remains under contract with a network but they have no plans to bring back his character on the show "empire." they recently signed an open letter calling for his return saying he is "filled with integrity" and the victim of a racist justice system like so many.. we will continue to follow the story and hope that there is justice someday. ♪ amazon is a high-tech company but when it comes to employee quality-of-life, they have a lot in common with the ancient egyptians. [laughs] now they have invented a computer that can fire people without any human input at all, brett larson of fox news headlines 24/7 is on our brave

new world beat. he joins us now. all the ways google can spy on you at home. >> hey, tucker. this is how it starts. google had some ideas on what you should wear and amazon can fire employees without the need for any human interaction. we have already heard and seen the stories inside of amazon's a warehouses and the conditions those workers face. as the online shopping behemoth continues to grow, it places an increased need on warehouse workers, forget sprockets, you are a cog in the wheel at an amazon factory where they use a system to track your productivity to the point where some workers skip bathroom breaks. there have been reports that amazon's delivery drivers are so pressured to keep up with demands of their job, they are not just skipping bathroom breaks or making use of their time behind the wheel to b relie themselves in bottles -- they are actually doing that, they're also skipping stop signs and running lights. worse, if the system decides a worker is not meeting targets

it will automatically issue a warning and terminate employment. amazon says a supervisor can override the system. google filed a patent last week that shows the tech giant wants to do the thinking for you. the patent application describes a home assistant that would keep track of items you have worn for future suggestions. it lists the example of the home assistant telling the user, "why not try switching your black shoes for the tan pair you wore on tuesday?" if you are wondering who left the dirty dish on the counter, google will know the answer.r. "jane doe left the dish there on april 27th." all on par for google of course. have described the company's business model of surveillance capitalism. we looked deep intomp that. the user is the product, as they use your data and your everyday behavior to show you increasingly more relevant advertising. maybe even some new roommates that will put their stuff away. >> tucker: i think we are being manipulated in ways we know nothing about. thank you for shining light on that.

the "sports illustrated" swimsuit edition just came out, it still exists, barely but still. the somali american model posed in a burkini, a full-body swimsuit worn by some muslim women. immediately the press came out in strong support and it turns out covering your body is a deeply feminist ideal. "the today show" explained why that is. >> a woman made history as the first "sports illustrated" model to wear a hijab, and a burkini this was in the magazine. that is what makes models models because they have that confidence because they are putting themselves out there and this is her being allowed to be her. >> i feel like every year we are trying to push the needle forward. >> a woman who challenges our traditional notions of beauty and to celebrate that on the cover, well done. t

>> tucker: president of the american-islamic forum of democracy and the author of the book, "a battle for the soul of islam" which is excellent if you haven't read it. thank you for coming on. >> it is great to be with you. >> tucker: unlike so many doctors that come on the show, you are an actual doctor, a physician, a reall doctor. there's something patronizing about this. you are the expert on this. give us your take on this picture and the reaction. >> i have to tell you this is insanity. as a muslim, it is the episode of "coddle the islamic" has spread to "sports illustrated" because, you have two perspectives, a muslim perspective. you have a group of muslims who are conservative orthodox that believe in not objectifying women so are they a big subscriber for "sports illustrated"? f are they waiting for the swimsuit edition to come out? that doesn't take any sense and whyat not please the conservatis

among the jewish or sikh community or other faiths? it doesn't make sense except they have this bigotry for using muslims for the clicks, if you will. look at the left's attitude about this, i thought they were the ones about women's rights and equality and not objectifying women and the metoo folks. how is this use with the hijab, the burkini, in which it is used to torture women in somalia and iran if they don't wear it, now somehow "the today show" folks think this is a symbol of the quality and expression. it really is irrational no matter which way you look at it. >> tucker: it is so interesting.it it seems political rather than religious. none of the people i see on television seem to know anything about islam or any religion, they are all completely secular. but they are using this as a political tool. >> it is so true because it dehumanizes muslims into thinking this individual might believe she is expressing herself through that burkini but

atat the end of the day, you tak to most muslim women who are conservatives and wear hijab, they think that she is being objectified as much as thehe ret of the magazine is in this issue. it doesn't make any theological sense other than the political use of muslims as a prop to state they defend minorities and somehow absolve themselves off the guilt of whatever it is and ignoring actual muslim issues related to the real civil rights fight in the 21st century, which is inside the mosque, inside iran, saudi arabia, and across the world wheree women are at the back of the mosque and not at the front. >> tucker: such a smart point. thank you very much. good to see you tonight. >> nice to see you, tucker. >> tucker: handshakes have been around for all of human history, you probably enjoy them, real human contact. now companies are banning them to appease the woke generation. tammy joins us after the break. ♪ u just one free hearing test at

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♪ >> tucker: this is a fox news alert. there are new reports that robert mueller was dissatisfied with the attorney general william barr's summary of his report. the other networks are all over it. breaking news! tonight at the doj tells us in part, "after they received his letter they called him toei discuss it. in a professional conversation the special counsel emphasized that nothing in the attorney general's letter was was inaccurate or misleading but he expressed frustration over the lack of context and the resulting media coverage regarding the obstruction analysis." of course the entire report has now been released so if we can

summarize it for you, is h trump a russian agent? it turns out he is not. kind of what you need to know. stacey abrams of georgia has announced she is not running for the senate seat open in georgia next year and she has notgi decided whether she will run for president or not, but she is already considered the front runner to be the 2020 democratic vice presidential pick no matter who the nominee is and that is worrisome since stacey abrams seems delusional. we're not being mean. assess foron yourself. in a new interview with "the new yorker" she says that she won her 2018 race againstia brian kemp, she is the governor. the funny thing is she lost, she lost by 55,000 votes. that's about 1.5% of all votes cast. it doesn't matter, she believes the right thing. she went to yale, so apparently the election must have been stolen. three years ago, donald trump said he wanted to wait until the election to accept the results

and that was taken to be an attack on democracy and by 2020 in the democratic party, admitting defeat will be treason or colluding with russia! things change fast. handshakes for several thousand years have been a sign of good will, literally they are depicted on pots from 500 bc. but now everything is changing, everything is turned upside down and many things will be abolished because the woke generation just won't have them. a survey found that many would like to see a ban of all physical contact, complete physical contact, including handshakes, in the workplace. this would be done in order to avoid any confusion over what contact is acceptable and what is not acceptable. tammy bruce has been around long enough to know what is acceptable. thee president of women's independent voice.

sits in this age when i am gone. i would shake your hand, but it makes me nervous all the sudden. should we do away withut handshakes? >> the people that responded to voluntary online poll clearly must also not have very exciting lives if they are nervous about any kind of touch. >> tucker: [laughs] that's true. >> i think about living that way and it is like, what do you do? the fact is, handshakes are fabulous. it is an important, especially for women in the workplace. it is the first, for many people it is the first, for many peoplm impression you get of someone. their sense of themselves, their confidence, a gesture about agreeing, about meeting, a sign that you can be trusted. part of it is is that you are allowing that other person to take away effectively, in aa archaic sense of the notion, your weapon hand. you are suddenly -- you're not able to reach for a weapon or would not be handling a weapon because you have been stopped

from doing so and you offer that in a friendly fashion. that instinctually is key, but for woman especially. men have done the handshake and now as women enter the workforce and we go into more jobs and have more important positions, that is a genuine gesture thatim men have enjoyed and now women are in exactly the same position and can deliver that same handshake. i personally have practiced my handshake and i think it is important to make sure it is serious and balanced between being strong, without hurting someone, and it's secure and it matters. it is the first impression. >> tucker: and for good reason because human contact matters. what happens to babies in orphanages who don't get enough human touch? they wither and die ultimately. >> hospitals have some men and women who go in to just touch the newborns who don't haven somebody to touch them.

>> tucker: exactly. what are we to think of any group or movement that would like to make this country more sterile and make it so we can not touch each other? what are we to think that? >> exactly and this is the problem with the individuals who want to do that. it says there is no solution to some of the other issues we might find at work. and that it is a zero-sum game. it is total destruction if you will but it is, it signals it's from a group of people that they don't trust any other human being and that of course, not the people we want making decisions in the workplace.n'an >> tucker: i totally agree. say what you want about the french, they would laugh this down. thank you very much. >> i appreciate it. >> tucker: we have an update for you on the unfolding and violent situation in venezuela after the break. ♪ i have a vision correction number,

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♪ >> tucker: fox news alert for you, venezuela appears to be moving toward some kind of

civil war and the u.s. could be on the brink of some kind of intervention in that war. trace gallagher has more on the rapidly evolving situation. trace? >> tucker, the u.s. backed opposition dubbed operation freedom, and they are protesting clashes under way as we speak in caracas. late today claiming the final phase was under way toto oust maduro, but no reports that his supporters have taken control of any military bases and nicolas maduro, who has not been seen today, is claiming that the military has shown total loyalty adding that he "has nerves of steel and that we will win." and there were graphic scenes of armored vehicles plowing into opposition protesters. it is unclear if anyone is hurt, but more than 70 people have been hurt in various clashes. if the military is standing by maduro, it would be a considering secretary of stateng

mike pompeo saying that he was headed to havana saying that he had an airplane on the tarmac and was ready toad leave this morning as we understand it. and the russians indicated he shouldwe stay. the russians and cubans are maduro's primary supporters and president trump has threatened cuba with a "complete embargo and the highest level of sanctions." national security advisor john bolton says what is happening in venezuela is not a coup because the u.s. recognizes guaido as a legitimate leader trying to take command of his military. and the u.s. says all options are on the table. watch. >> the option to use military force is available if that is what is called for, we hope that it is not, we hope that there can be a peaceful resolution and that maduro will leave without violence. >> it remains unclear if the uprising fails, tucker. >> tucker: trace gallagher. at the top of the hour we had an exchange with mario diaz-balart on venezuela. here is part of it.

>> you look at the resume with a lot of pressure surviving, is it or is it not potentially a green light, an open door for the russians, for the chinese, for others to increase their activity against our national security interests right here in our hemisphere? >> tucker: yeah, no. it is kind of hard to see what you are talking about. >> tucker: a reporter who just spent a month in venezuela, reporting from the ground there and she joins us here in studio. thanks very much for coming on. >> thank you so much for inviting me. >> tucker: what do you make of the news coverage? >> your viewers will not be. shocked to hear this, but the fake news media are lying about the situation in venezuela. let me put it for you this way, imagine if hillary clinton had refused to admit defeat after losing to president trump in 2016 and banded together a group of 24 u.s. soldiers and attempted to take the white house by force, i don'ts. think that she would be walking

freely on the streets the way that juan guaido is right now in caracas and i think that the news media would be calling it rightfully a coup. i and let me just tell you, when it comes to a what is happening on the ground there, i can tell you, i was there for a month earlier this year and the opposition has no popular support. juan guaido proved today once again that he will only ride into power on the back of the u.s. tank and once more we hear about a humanitarian crisis they are, tucker, but we never hear the intended result of u.s. sanctions, which have targeted venezuela since 2015, sanctions which according to a report released by the center for economic and policy research has led to the death of 40,000 venezuelans and will lead to the deaths of thousands more if these sanctions are not overturned. president trump, if he truly cared about the american -- or the venezuelan and american people for that matter, he a wod end the disastrous policy and the sanctions and he would look into john bolton's eyes, into

elliot abrams' eyes and mike pompeo's eyes and say, you are fired. you are leading me down a disastrous path and something that the president said -- m >> tucker: you are passionate! >> he was celebrated by the american people when he said iraq was a mistake and now he is willing to do it again. >> tucker: it is a bipartisan -- i mean, biden came out today and said that he agreed. >> it is a bipartisan issue. >> tucker: it would be interesting to know why that is. i believe in an open debate, and i'm not sure i agree with everything you said, but i'm glad that you could say it here. and you were just there, and i don't think that you would be allowed on any other show to say that.lo >> no, i really appreciate it. because president trump promised to drain the swamp and he flooded his national security team with that exact swamp. >> tucker: i agree with that, actually. anya, thank you very much for your perspective. good to see you. >> thank you. >> tucker: we are out of time, we will be back tomorrow at 8:00 p.m., the show that is low sworn

and total sincere enemy of lying and there is so much of it, pomposity, smugness, groupthink. we will be back tomorrow, but in the meantime, guess who is next, ladies and gentlemen, we have a surprise for you, sean hannity live from new york city. >> sean: great show as always, welcome to "hannity," this is a fox news breaking news alert, at least two people are dead after gunfire erupts at unc in charlotte, we will have full coverage just ahead tonight. also venezuela is at j a tipping point in this very hour. a ton of breaking news this hour, opposition leader, duly elected president juan guaido is calling for a military uprising tonight, thousands have taken to the streets in caracas en masse and the socialist dictator nicolas maduro turned his cuban-backed security forces against his fellowec citizens, plowing them down with armored trucks. more than 40 venezuelans have been killed in violent street clashes tonight. venezuela, as we speak, is burning. you're looking at how socialism,