welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." what a weird day it was in washington. hard as it may be to believe, two weeks after the release of the mueller report. but on capitol hill tonight they are still yelling about russia! it's as if the most exhaustive federal investigation in a generation never even happened. it's as if the russia collusion story was completely real and not a ludicrous hoax published by ruthless partisans. it's is a facts no longer matter at all, only emotion and ambition and the overriding will to power. these apparently are the new

rules in washington. the attorney general william barr learned of them today as he was summoned before the congress. angry democrats interrogated him but the letter he wrote in march summarizing the mueller report. you might wonder why anyone would care about that letter, the entire mueller report was subsequently released right after the letter. that report is now available online. anyone can read it, you can read it if you want and then draw your own independent conclusions about what it says. you don't need bob barr's help, his summary is irrelevant. now our partisans on cable tv are pretending otherwise. let's be very clear, what they are giving you his opinion. it's not fact and they should be honest about that. tell barr letter means nothing. again, that is fact, not opinion. so what was the point of today's hearings? while part of the point was to allow people like me like mazie hirono to perform for the cameras. a few years ago, virtually no

one outside of hawaii had heard of her. she was considered forgettable even by standards of the u.s. senate. now she's a celebrity on cnn. technically she remains unimpressive, she's never written a single bill that you have heard of. but when the cameras rolling, she will repeat literally anything or staff puts on a card and enhance her no matter how extreme and stupid it might be. here she was today. >> mr. barr, the american people know you are no different than rudy giuliani, kellyanne conway or any of the other people who sacrificed their once decent reputation for the liar who sits in the oval office. he once turned down a job offer from donald trump's concerns were legitimate. you didn't know bob mueller supported your conclusions but you knew that you lied to.

i wasn't surprised. you did exactly what i thought you would do which is why i voted against your confirmation. but now we know more about your deep involvement and trying to cover up for donald trump. being the attorney general of the united states is sacred trust. you have betrayed that trust and america deserves better. you should resign. >> tucker: reading it right off the card. hand her the card, there you go. she will read it. deep involvement in a cover-up. bill our role read the letter on march 24th. that means that for three and a half long weeks america was under the false impression that donald trump was not a russian agent. two cory booker of new jersey that sounds like a sophisticated disinformation campaign run by, you guessed it. russian agents. >> we have here documented a level of clo ordination with a

foreign adversary sharing polling data. and, your conduct seems to be trying to normalize that behavior which is why i think you are in such a serious moment that is eroding the cultures of this democracy. so let's get into some of this specifically. >> tucker: eroding culture as of this democracy. we can only guess as to what that might mean. spartacus did on explain himself. but if you wanted to undermine democracy, probably the first thing you would do is ignore the expressed will of the voters. instead, you create slideshows to what the actual population wanted. or, if the priorities they expressed. instead, you pretend that some irrelevant letter that bob barr

wrote back in march is more important than all of it, more important than the opioid crisis where the ongoing invasion from central america for our southern border. then, you want mazie hirono back on tv as much as possible screaming about a cover-up, and that way maybe no one would notice that the roads were crumbling or the suicide rate was rising. or that you or reasons you could never explain were intent on wasting more money and more lives in syria or yemen or venezuela. you continue to live up hatred in the population and division needless to say it, so you employ slogans like white privilege or toxic masculinity to make people really hate each other. over time the population would be so mesmerized and afraid they may not even notice that you are wrecking the country. if you want to undermine democracy that's exactly what you would do. dana perino is one of our favorite people and she can break down everything, she does

every afternoon on "the daily briefing" which we wash religiously like a stalker but not. so take three steps back. what is this really about? is this the groundwork for impeachment? >> even though you have democratic leadership, the speaker who can tap the brakes on impeachment, democrats i think about 70% of them, and, i have to tell you you can't have a better communicator. people are watching this hearing and people who didn't like pellet president trump are completely of another mind.

but objectively as a communications person as an unflappable witness, he is deeply bereaved. he just to run the office of legal counsel of which a lot of this is to be debated over and it basically ended up debt, america's favorite forwards today were were, my time is up. all the members of congress, they said i guess my time is up because i didn't feel like he was basically running circles around them. there are some things you can split hairs on, but i think the two basic things that he promised in his confirmation hearing to those very same senators. one, mueller will not be interfered with, he will be allowed to finish his report. and that came true. number two, he would make the report as quickly as possible and transparently as possible which also came true. quibbling about a summary that was six weeks ago when the full report is out for anybody to read if they wanted to seems a

little bit to me like being way over the top. so i do think that someday you will see elizabeth warren. it will be interesting to see, do biden or bernie sanders, either of those to say, let's do impeachment? then you will know they want to go for it. >> tucker: i agree with your analysis completely and i was amazed by the number of supposedly sober and they have another line. they would look at everything that barr did not say and they would say that's incredibly telling. this is the newline, it's incredibly telling. then they get to decide what it is that they are going to tell you. >> tucker: that's also down. but impeachment, it's interesting to hear you say that because clearly the leadership does not want impeachment. so what happens if that happens,

do you think? >> well, i think pelosi will try to slow walk it in the house. in some ways he would imagine that the trump campaign would think, fine. knock yourselves out. that's really not good for anybody. for all the issues that we talked about, you can't even talk about filling the pot holes in our roads and bridges. those of the things that people really want to talk about. but if the base is pushing you for impeachment it has to be somebody that i think wants to be the front runner in the democratic primary to say, that's enough. let's not do that. >> i agree with you. i would be impressed if someone had the strength to do that. i appreciate it. alan dershowitz is a retired harvard hot law school professo

professor. he joins us tonight. thanks for coming on. summarize if you would, i know you are paying close attention, the attorney general's behavior in this process. how has he done, do you think? >> the bottom line is that barr is right and mueller is wrong. he defended that there was no obstruction of justice, that a president cannot obstruct justice by firing, pardoning or doing anything that the article two of the constitution authorizes him to do. mueller and report take a different view of that. barr gets the better of the argument historically in the best precedent comes when barr was attorney general when he pardoned caspar weinberger on the eve of his trial and the special prosecutor said he did that to obstruct the investigation. he did that to prevent the culmination of the iran-contra investigation and yet, nobody suggested that a president can obstruct justice by pardoning.

and so i think after you put aside about did he or didn't he mislead, or didn't he misstate something, bottom line is didn't obstruct justice. we know what the thrust of it i is. it's a moot issue. you said something one day and now, you are saying something a little different on another day. but it has nothing to do with the substance. and read the letter. i don't think there was. the conclusions that barr started were absolutely correct.

they were disappointed that there wasn't more nuance or content. but now everybody has that's a judge for yourself. >> tucker: so you don't think anything has changed after today's hearing? >> i don't think anything changes. and i think barr put it right, his job is over. that's it. but the justice department under his authority is finished. they have done their job. >> tucker: will he be impeached, do you believe? >> i don't think he will be impeached and if he were to be impeached, the constitution specifies trees and bribery is our crimes and mueller found no sufficient evidence of any crimes. i don't think congress has the

power to redefine any crimes. i don't think he is in any danger. of impeachment, and by a thousand cuts, subpoenas of court cases, further investigations and perhaps investigations of his finances before he became president but i think essentially, impeachment is off the table. they will make the same mistake republicans made when they impeached clinton. they will lose public support for that. i think, what's going on in venezuela and what's going on around the world today, the president needs to be able to get back to governing. i say all the time, when i fly in an airplane, i root for the public. pilot. he has to be given breathing room to govern. let's stop weaponizing the

criminal justice system on either side. period let's get back to legislation. the one i i agree. i don't want to lock her up and i don't want to impeach him. good to see you tonight. >> likewise, thank you. >> tucker: venezuela still in turmoil. one reason the country got this bad in the first place is because the government disarmed its population, very much like what the democratic party has set out loud it would like to do in this country. we have details on it coming up next.

♪ >> tucker: venezuela remains in some chaos today. the country's opposition leader continues his effort to topple nicolas maduro's democratic government. >> tucker, throughout the day thousands of people still gathered on the streets of caracas demanding the ouster of nicolas maduro but so far there is little balance to show how the power has shifted. despite having the support of the united states and 50 other nations, they've been able to secure the loyalty of top military leaders. some of those leaders went on proclaiming their loyalty to nicolas maduro. although the trump administration believes many of those military leaders are covering their tracks. and, although their director of venezuela's intelligence agency did frank tell mike break with

maduro yesterday. this is in spanish, so read the captions. watch. [speaking in foreign language] >> close to achieving, john bolton thinks maduro is still being propped up by the russians and the cubans, listen. >> i think the key point here is, if this afternoon, 20-25000 cubans left venezuela. and if he does not fall and the uprising fails, plan b is very unclear at this point. >> tucker: thanks a lot for that. so venezuela is pretty rotten government has been in power for a long time and has been able to

pull that off in part because of rules over a population that is not armed. the only people with guns in venezuela are members of the military or criminal gangs. sometimes law-abiding citizens are at their mercy. >> you have to understand and venezuela gun ownership is not something that's open to everybody. so as long as nicolas maduro controls the military he controls the country. >> tucker: so this is one of those ideas that is now floating around in the democratic primar primary. let's just take the guns away from the population. here we have a case study and what it looks like when that happens in venezuela. tell us how that population got disarmed?

>> in 2012 the legislation passed and in 2013 was implemented to what amounted to a gun ban. it basically prohibited people from acquiring arms and in 2013 the dictator maduro announced that all gun stores will be closed so it would be impossible for anyone to illegally acquire a firearm or ammunition. the venezuelan government also has the same theory that you see when people talk about gun buybacks in the united states, as if the government owned the gun and then would buy them back from citizens. in venezuela, the law actually says all guns are owned by the government and the government can recuperate them as they say at any time. that is why people are defenseless against what you mentioned before. it was about 44,000 criminal gangsters trained by the cuban

government, and they really run most of the many regions of the country and practices, organized crime extortion trip. >> but if ordinary people don't have guns at home it must be an incredibly safe country. that's a promise of gun control. >> it has the second-highest murder rate in the world behind only the hondurans. it's an incredibly dangerous country. it was dangerous before the gun law was passed in 2012, but things seem to keep getting worse and worse. the shop as regimes have always been a kleptocracy is basically based on running the government as an organized crime syndicate for the principle of theft. that has infected a lot of societies and it's a terribly dangerous for place. so i'm starting to think that a lot of the precepts may not be

right. he said this was a youth led movement to disarm the public. but you see the dangers of what happened when the government becomes more powerful than the people. then it's like you've thrown the fire extinguisher out of your house and you are dependent on the other checks and balances and he destroyed those as well. >> tucker: he was doing it for the children, i didn't even know that. at such a great detail and a detail that i will never forget. thank you very much for that. >> thanks for having me. >> tucker: progressive activists in denver are promoting a law that would legalize permanent homeless camps across the city. what would that mean for the environment? open space, water, and middle class. we will tell you after the

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>> tucker: once again, suddenly seeing everywhere in this country, blocking sidewalks and filling parks inside of what were once america's most beautiful cities. you don't see many families and parks in those places. you do see plenty of tents and needles and human waste. colorado isn't known for its homeless problem but now activists are pushing for the right to survive. if passed, that would allow them to set up a up permanent encampments in almost any public space in the city. he says that give director which promotes open space in the city. thanks for coming on. so you served in the state legislature, but you don't seem very partisan.

he spent a lot of years working to enhance the environmental quality of your city and the open spaces so you seem like the person to ask. what effect with this have on the environment if passed? >> the challenge of the ramifications of the open spaces in our natural rivers is significantly damaging. what will happen under the measures involved with 300 is any part, any public space, and a bank as a legal resident will allow anyone to use these parks and priceless amenities as bathrooms. at the end of the day, we will see challenging results of that in terms of degraded water quality. the south platte river in denver is not healthy enough that coldwater native species of fish

have been reintroduced and not only are they surviving but they are thriving. this will go away under measure 300. >> tucker: fly fisherman of america, thank you for your work making that happen. you made such a demonstrative decision to allow people to use parks and rivers as a toilet, it will hurt the environment. why isn't thereproar against this idea? >> i think there is a challenge based on the language in the ballot measure to fully understand what measure 300 does and it doesn't do. i'd like to talk about what it doesn't do in terms of compassion for the homelessness in denver. it provides no housing, no food and no clothing. it provides no mental care or physical health care. it provides no education, no employment, no independence. it does nothing to take dependency and addiction and turn it as we all want into

independency and, into sobriety. and tucker, any park and any public space is a civil rights protected residents, as is any vehicle in the city and county of denver. my vehicle is now a resident, certainly in residential areas and that's my civil right protected resident. it's almost, and i will finish with, it says to the homeless

whether it's 15 below or 115 above, we have no way of helping you with that. >> tucker: what an articulate reputation. thank you for what you've done, for the actual physical environment. it's amazing. >> tucker: >> i'm part of a gre. denver is a frequent guest on our show and we are always honored to have him. he wrote a piece for the federalist arguing that israel had a right to annex the west bank. you can agree or disagree but the college where he works, student and faculty were so offended by it that, thousands of students signed a letter calling on the school to censor him and then the faculty voted officially to condemn his article as an abuse of economicc freedom. professor, thanks very much for

coming on. >> thank you for having me. so you took a position that not everybody agrees with but that does have a fairly large consistency. it's not an unheard of position and certainly no crazier than what most of your colleagues are saying on a daily basis. why are you being censored for that? >> how being censored because i've taken a very positive pro-israeli stance and a very anti-semitic culture. on college campuses that are pushing for bds movement and investment against israel, i'm a conservative dependent who speaks his mind very clearly and will not be silenced. and i -- in that article, aside from sending israel, i made a point that israel was -- and individual rights. and i think students took

offense and, individual faculty and people at large took offense at me defending israel. and defending my right to defend israel's rights to defend itself against the war that was launched against it in 1967 by jordan. the students have claimed that i'm racist, xenophobic, and have called for my removal. that i am an islamophobia and that i am guilty of advocating ethnic cleansing and which i am not. >> tucker: that's ludicrous. we have some video of the protest against you on your campus. i think we are -- we are putting it there on your screen. tell us what we are looking at? >> i wasn't there but you are looking at the arts and letters building in which students are calling for my removal or calling for the president to fire me, calling for my

downfall. all sorts of nefarious accusations against me. i was made aware of that video only yesterday. >> tucker: we are watching them throw paper, we are watching them litter which they are good at i noticed. any idea what they are throwing down from the balcony? >> they are throwing down quotes from the article, tweets that i have made, articles that i have written which i've discussed on your show. they've taken sections from my book which is called become, "we have overcome" and they have taken some of these quotes out of context and pasted them and they are throwing them around campus accusing me of and siding with an apartheid state, which they claim israel to be which most of them defend israel is not being an apartheid state.

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>> tucker: the good news for you tonight. we solved all of america's problems. congress must believe that because instead of working on fixing our problems they spent yet another day all day

rehashing the 2016 election. that's what they did today and it won't be the last time. unfortunately, there are still problems in america starting at the border which has basically collapsed. this newly released picture of the border patrol shows 111 migrants stampeding into the border. you already know how this will go. those migrants will likely claim asylum and many of them will likely be admitted temporarily into the united states and no one will be deported, nobody ever is. that's how it works and it works because congress doesn't care about fixing it at all. in his best-selling novel, "american psycho," he satirized the 1980s and just released his first work of nonfiction called "white." the book has a target, victim world culture. it's an attack on what he calls

generation was. we recently spoke with him and here is what he said. you've been famous for so long. decades you've offended people. did you think you had it in you to offend a brand-new generation? >> definitely not. i've never tried to offend anyone and i'm always amazed how i've managed to trigger generation after generation after generation. i thought this was a pretty benign book, and i never considered this as political as it has been considered in the mainstream press and i never thought it would be controversial as it has become. it's certainly the most controversial book that i've written since "american psycho" and i find that to be kind of mad. >> tucker: while a little bit. i don't think of you as a political person -- i followed you all this time and i read this piece by molly john fats,

and she dismisses u.s. like a trumpet clone or something. why are people writing off as a right winger when you don't think you've written a particularly right-wing book? >> know because if you do not adamantly condemn trump, if you do not come out and agree with a hysterical overreaction with trumpet, then you are occluding with him. i dealt us with the last two or three years of my podcast. probably not your typical trump supporter, i definitely didn't vote for him. i'm a freethinker in many ways and i did see something wrong with the portrayal of trump in the media. i thought the media was covering him in a way that wasn't necessarily truthful. i talked a lot about this on my podcast, and even though i wasn't a trump supporter, just

because i complained about the way mainstream media was dealing with trump, i suddenly got branded a conservative. some kind of like psycho right wing guy. i'm pretty nonpartisan, pretty much in the middle of the aisle. >> who has been angriest about this? >> certainly the liberal side of the mainstream media has taken this book to be kind of a betrayal in a way. because as you said, i've never been a particularly political person. for some reason because i talk about a lot of hysterical liberals i know in los angeles who lost it all over trump entitled people i know who and i want to cover this in white.

somehow i want to talk about the reality of the situation. >> well since you are a novelist, most of the time, and that's kind of a constraint by those bound in the political world. how long do you think this can last? how long do we have a society where creativity is banned and free thinking is illegal and anyone who steps outside the parameters is crushed? >> this is the one thing that has bothered me the most about the left. and as a creative it is something that worries me. i often wonder how you can be a writer, an artist, a director, a filmmaker, and allying yourself with the party that is basically subsidizing an authoritarian language belief on what you can say and what you can't say and how you can express yourself or

how you can't express yourself. to me, i don't understand how this is not more worrying to the creative community. where will it end up? what is the dead end of this censoring in a way? i don't know. there has got to be some kind of push back on it i know neither side likes it. then left doesn't like it and the right doesn't like it and yet somehow we are enthralled to this and we are all following it. and i'm not sure why. >> tucker: you have definitely pushed back in this book. congratulations on the bravery it takes to write a book like this right now. we appreciate it. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: a male power lifter has just smashed four records in a need for a female power lifter is but some bigoted people say there is a problem with that.

plus, the mueller report is out for the partisan press is still obsessed with revisiting barr's summary of the mueller report. that's not on opinion, that's a fact. we will have more facts, after the break. ♪

♪ >> tucker: imagine what it's like to be congressman eric swalwell in california, is running for president but one of nearly two dumb dumb like dozen democrats running. he needs a niche, so he needs a different path. he decided to come off like a parody of a cringing self-loathing beta male. sue yesterday for example tweeted this, "do you know how many times women is mentioned in the constitution? a zero. that is unacceptable. women must be equally represented and equally protected. hashtag e.r.a. now." so he had a point, we checked and women does not appear in the constitution and neither does

man. trans also. as a matter of fact, white, black, and straight, they got there. as a matter of fact the amendment he wanted to pass wouldn't add those words either because despite his pandering, the constitution is not the bigoted document he wants to see. it's actually for all americans regardless. some congratulations are in order tonight for power lifter mary gregory. gregory competed at a 100% raw powerlifting tournament. gregory competed in nine events and won all nine of them, setting for records in the process which was a triumph of the human spirit. of course, some people are unhappy about it and some people always complain. in this case they argue gregory had an unfair advantage because of being a biological male with a lifetime of physiology and male hormones. people think these ports should be reserved for for biological women, that women are somehow different from men. you know why they think that?

not like it's any good reason, not like there is a mountain of evidence. they can do that because they are incorrigible bigots. powerful people tell us that every day and threaten our livelihood up with the use agree buy that idea completely without any reservation at all. so congratulations to mary gregory for being one of the greatest female athletes since caitlyn jenner. msnbc, if you are watching, you may have noticed that they could not contain their excitement during the attorney general hearing. lindsey graham noted that mueller report found no evidence of collusion between the campaign in russia. >> so what have we learned from this report? after all this time and all this money, mr. mueller and his team concluded there was no collusion. if there is no underlying crime -- >> we are reluctant to do this, we rarely do but the

chairman of the judiciary committee just said that mueller found there is no collusion. that is not correct. that phrase or, the lack of it, is absent from federal coda. the no collusion montara comic mantra is so foundational as to why we are here today that we decided to flag it when we heard him use it yet again, back into the chairman and the committee. >> tucker: just another fact-check from a guy suspended for lying. nice guy but please get some self-awareness. the only time something like that happened, an hour later they cut away again to say barr is a big fat liar, too. >> so much has been said here and place on the record by the attorney general that starting with nicole wallace, we want to correct some of the records against, of all things, what it says in the mueller report. >> i'm not going to dance around

this. and that's the obstruction investigation. >> tucker: we are turning to nicole wallace is a fact-checker? joe concha writes about media for that hill and he joins us tonight. and he has gone full msnbc. he should be on msnbc news got it, still got the voice but this is pathetic. >> conforming to the highest. i grew up down the new jersey river, is a nice guy by all accounts. the environment that he is in, he realizes that he has to give his audience comfort food. and the scary part about that is that he could just pivot into what he's becoming now which is completely and totally partisan. and he has gone full dan rather.

these guys were people that you trusted because there you are, cs and nbc giving is a news and then they give completely and totally from one side to the left and destroy delicacies in the process. and, she's been a flack. i met her when she was jeb bush's flack and she has always been like someone who spends on behalf of politicians. so how is she being referred to, how is she being used as like a source of truth? it's bizarre to me. >> es. if i'm msnbc and that in that situation, i would be and what we are seeing here, especially

in other cable networks is putting in republicans, people who are conservative is whether that be nicole wallace or anna navarro. and they just go -- more than sometimes democrats or liberals going completely and totally anti-trump to get this perception that somehow even republicans are turning against the president. then you look at the gallup poll and do you show loyalty to the president will be around 90% in his party but the perception that cable news networks are trying is that, everyone is turning it against this guy because he's that bad. >> tucker: so what you are describing is a political campaign. and that's totally disconnected. >> they are to disconnected things completely. his constant obsession is something that american people

didn't care about and every poll that you saw leading up to the mueller report is completely and totally true. that's the whole ball game ther there. and, rod rosenstein, bill barr works for george bush. last check, the bushes don't like them. so to think that he's suddenly throws away his career, same with rosenstein who is willing to wear a wire, it's so ridiculous. that's the conspiracy theory out there. >> we have ten seconds left. do i look more credible if i pause and use my cvs readers in the middle of this? should i do >> gladly, 15 points to your iq so yeah, absolutely, i used to

do it when i was single. you are a wise man, joe concha, thank you. speed two, we will be back tomorrow 8:00 p.m., the the show that is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness and group think. think dvr but be more than anything new york city, sean hannity. >> sean: tucker carlson, slow news night, anything happening? it is certainly slow, great to see you, tucker great show. buckle up welcome to >> hannity: . let me give you a quick headlines in the details we will follow that nobody else will report. the mueller witch hunt is completely over. it is done. nobody listens to the attorney general, and yeah, the attorney general admitted today, everything we recorded the last two years, full criminal investigations are now just beginning. imagine that, a talk show host is right and so many in the fake

news industry are wrong.