the political crisis in venezuela, now escalating even more. opposition activists holding rallies outside military bases around the country. with the leader of that movement, juan guaido, trying to win over the soldiers to his side. all this coming just days after he urged the military to rise up against the socialist regime of embattled president nicholas maduro. hello, everyone. welcome to america's news headquarters. i'm eric shawn. good to have anita here. >> thank you so much. guaido, the u.s. recognized president, urging his supporters to gather at military bases and persuade forces to turn against disputed president maduro. the latest appeals follow calls for an uprising earlier this

week and days of protests which have turned deadly. steve harrigan is live from caracas, venezuela with more. bring us up to speed on what's happening on the ground there. reporter: this has really been a three-month-long struggle and the two sides are both battling over one key group, the military. right now, we are seeing the opposition out in force, their numbers building again today. another saturday protest and their goal is to go to military bases and try to convince especially the rank and file soldiers to join them in their efforts to oust the disputed president here, nicholas maduro. as for maduro himself, he is also trying to show himself with the military as often as possible. on state tv, in meetings, day in and day out, today he was at a cadet base shaking hands with cadets, giving them fist bumps and shouting back and forth loyalty forever. he's trying to show both those cadets and the people watching state tv that the army is still

soundly with him. he's called the failed uprising on tuesday an attempted coup that has been organized by the u.s. here's maduro. >> translator: we say to the traitors, to the coup making oligarchy, to imperialism, let it be heard even in washington, loyal forever. reporter: so far, at least twice this week these protests have turned violent. more than 200 people wounded, several people dead. they are really squaring off against each other. maduro has begun to arrest those who he says are responsible for the failed uprising, but he is not yet there to arrest juan guaido, the man u.s. recognizes as the president of venezuela. back to you. >> steve, thank you so much. stay safe on the ground there. back in washington, president trump talking by phone for more than an hour with russian president vladimir putin. the two leaders spoke about various topics including

venezuela, north korea and ukraine. president trump also saying they briefly discussed the mueller report. >> he actually sort of smiled when he said something to the effect that it started off as a mountain and it ended up being a mouse, but he knew that, because he knew there was no collusion whatsoever, so pretty much that's what it was. >> we are live from the white house with more. rich, what's happening there? reporter: good afternoon. president trump says he had a pretty lengthy phone call yesterday with the russian president, vladimir putin. the president also describes it as a very good call and dismissed what he's called the russia hoax. this is about two weeks after the department of justice released the mueller report that detailed the russian government's sweeping and systematic interference in the 2016 election. the president also said the two leaders spoke about the crisis in venezuela. >> we talked about many things, venezuela was one of the topics,

and he is not looking at all to get involved in venezuela other than he'd like to see something positive happen for venezuela. reporter: last week, the state department said secretary of state mike pompeo warned the russian government to stop its intervention in venezuela and its support of the maduro regime which pompeo says is hurting u.s./russia relations. >> rich, the president is also reacting to the former fbi director. what's he saying? reporter: yeah, he is. last week, james comey wrote in the "new york times" what he says is how he describes the president's co-opting leaders, writing quote, proximity to an amoral leader reveals something depressing. i think that's at least part of what we've seen with bill barr and rod rosenstein, that's the attorney general and deputy attorney general. accomplished people lacking inner strength can't resist the compromises necessary to survive mr. trump and that adds up to something they will never recover from. now president trump is responding to that.

>> well, comey leaks and he lied, he lied in front of congress, he was sworn testimony, classified information, i did a terrible job, everybody wanted him fired. you know, everybody. schumer, every democrat almost, every republican almost, probably 100% but i say almost, just to say it so there's no mistake. reporter: congressional republicans say they are also investigating comey and the fbi for the surveillance or intervention or investigation into the 2016 trump campaign. comey has responded to that and says when he gets information and the fbi gets information that a russian government official is talking with an official within the trump campaign, that it's something the fbi should look into. >> we will certainly be hearing more on that. rich, thank you so much. eric: james comey had a lot to say about the russia investigation. the doj inspector general's report on the alleged fisa abuses is due out soon amid

revelations that the fbi supposedly sent an undercover to chat up george papadopolous at a london bar about the allegations of russia collusion. what does all this mean? editor in chief of "the hill" joins us. comey is really a defendant in the fbi's handling of the case, he's pushing back against accusations of so-called spying. i guess all this in advance of the horowitz report. >> that's right. horowitz has been very critical of comey and how he went about the 2016 investigation of hillary clinton and now he's looking into this fisa issue. with comey, i think he's missing the point a bit. it's making sure that you're following protocol and that there's no political bias. now, horowitz did not find a bias in comey, at least not yet, but at the same time, there have been people, whether it's peter strzok or lisa page, other people within the fbi and that's what bill barr has been saying, he's saying he's also looking into it as well as horowitz. horowitz is a straight shooter

so i think his report is going to be very interesting. eric: lindsey graham vowed to have hearings in the senate. let's listen to what the former fbi director said. he was on over at knx radio in los angeles. here he is talking about the accusations that the fbi had it out for the trump campaign by quote, spying on it. >> and the one that's the craziest is this notion that we were out to get donald trump. okay, well, let me ask a question, trump supporters. i knew and a very small number of people in the entire world knew before the election that we were conducting a counterintelligence investigation of individuals close to the trump campaign, and i told the fbi team it's really important that we keep this close hold and this not get out. if we were trying to hurt donald trump, why on earth wouldn't we leak that? eric: what about that, bob? >> well, it's interesting. bill barr has said in testimony this week, he said that the fbi should have briefed the trump

campaign and let them know that they were looking into this and he said it was odd that they didn't, so there's clearly a difference of opinion between comey and barr, but i do think that this thing, whether it's comey looking into stuff, that makes sense, but it's following the steps. were the steps that the fbi has been doing for decades followed, and that's what horowitz i think is going to say. then the republican senators are questioning well, maybe russia was feeding christopher steele, who was in charge of the dossier, wrote the dossier, maybe what was their motivation, maybe they were giving him false information to get this whole thing going. eric: do we have any indication that those steps, the appropriate fisa steps, were not followed, and this was a potential miscarriage of justice or that it was a legitimate concern that russia was trying to influence and basically invade our election system? >> not definitively, no. but i do think that's why the fbi looks into things. i think it's valid to look into

whether there was collusion. we have the verdict on that from mueller, and then also, investigating the motivations behind the investigators. we need to figure that out as well. i think all these things should be looked into and concluded and we have at least some parts of the collusion aspect, that's already done. eric: horowitz, he came to a conclusion already that strzok and lisa page e-mails, when they were trashing donald trump, that it apparently didn't rise to the level of affecting bias in the investigation, in other words, there's a line, they claim between personal bias and professional bias. you think more of that will come out? >> i think it could. i do think, i mean, we have seen bias within the justice department and i don't -- i don't think that's the case with horowitz. i think horowitz is someone who has been a straight shooter so i think his findings are going to be quite credible. there are predictions it's going to be bombshell. we'll see.

apparently it's coming out the next few weeks. eric: in terms of the president calling this a spying operation, saying laws were broken and other of the president's supporters saying that. here's what james comey said specifically when responding to that question. let's listen. >> it almost doesn't require a reaction but i will give you a reaction. really? what would you have the fbi do? we discover in the middle of june of 2016 that the russians are engaged in a massive effort to mess with this democracy, to interfere in the election. we are focused on that. eric: do you think the fbi acted appropriately? >> i think looking into it is something you should do, and mike pompeo, secretary of state, says russia is going -- predicted russia will try to interfere with the 2020 election and future elections and we should be able to stop that. and you should investigate it. but i do think that looking at the motivations behind people, that's also worth exploring. but without a doubt, russia has

meddled in our elections and will continue to do so. eric: we will be covering all that here at the fox news channel, be going to illinois in a few weeks to again examine that. a lot more coming out in the next few weeks when we get that ig report. bob, always good to see you. thank you for joining us. >> ntsb now investigating why a boeing 737 skidded off a runway and into a river in jacksonville. all of the 143 passengers and crew are alive and without serious injuries. as the search for answers gets under way. phil keating is live in jacksonville, florida. phil, i used to work as a reporter there in jacksonville. i know the st. johns river is a major artery in that city. i can't imagine how scary that was for passengers. reporter: absolutely. don't forget, it was pitch black at nighttime and very, very stormy. according to one of the passengers, the rough landing of the 737 was so rough, it actually bounced the plane back up into the air before it slammed back down on to the

runway, careening through a fence and ultimately going into the st. johns river about 100 feet in there. in total, 143 people were on board. they all made it back to land, alive. a little bit wet, but most importantly, survivors. seven crew members and 136 passengers. the jacksonville sheriff's office and fire and rescue immediately responded and marine units activated with boats to help with the rescue. according to passengers, once the plane came to a stop in a shallow part of the river, everybody exited the plane and lined up and stood on the wing to wait for the rescue boats just like they did a few years back, you may recall, in that miracle on the hudson. the 737 charter plane operated by miami air international flies twice weekly between guantanamo air station in cuba to norfolk, virginia with a stop in jacksonville. the passengers on the plane were a mix of military, civilians and dependents heading back to the states for some vacation as well

as to go home. >> 21 individuals that we transported were all listed in good condition, no critical injuries sustained by any of those 21. reporter: the plane ended up in the shallow water, where it remains right now. a lot of jet fuel had leaked and containment booms now surrounded the plane. national transportation safety bureau go team is here at the site. they will be looking at everything, maintenance records, the crew records as well as the weather factor, which certainly seems to be the leading theory of why this didn't land so well on the runway. there also are reports that there are a number of pets, unknown number of pets, that were also on that plane. they would have been held beneath the seating area in the belly of the aircraft, and so they don't really want to talk about that, the ntsb, but i can tell you the belly of the plane has been submerged for about 16 hours now. >> oh, boy. that doesn't sound good.

we will keep good thoughts for those pets. in the meantime, thankfully, all the people on board got off safely. phil keating, thank you so much for that report. eric: evil liars, says otto warmbier's mother cindy about the north korean regime. what she has to say to kim jong-un and what the north korean ambassador did not say when we confronted him. this as they launch more projectiles off their east coast. tonight, you do want to see this. watters world. jesse goes one-on-one with sarah sanders. the big interview airing tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern right here on the fox news channel. the "new york times" actually admits obama spied on trump. sarah sanders reacts. plus joe biden had a very bad week. we will show you the lowlights. and diamond and silk go wild onstage at a trump rally. tonight.

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jillian turner has more from washington. reporter: north korea fired several short-range missiles off its east coast beginning just after 9:00 a.m. local time. according to the latest from the south korean government, these missiles originated from a coastal town just east of pyongyang. the japanese government confirms the missiles flew 70 to 200 kilometers before landing in the sea between north korea and japan. president trump weighed in this morning via twitter, writing anything in this very interesting world is possible but i believe that kim jong-un fully realizes the great economic potential of north korea and will do nothing to interfere or end it. he also notes that i'm with him and does not want to break his promise to me. deal will happen. these tests, though, come as denuclearization talks with the united states remain stalled. this after president trump's summit with kim jong-un in vietnam in february fell apart.

over the past year, president trump had often touted no missile tests and no nuclear tests as proof that his north korea strategy is working. so it's unclear now whether the white house will take a tougher stance after this latest round of tests. south korea's military wasted no time issuing a statement today emphasizing they are tightly synced with their u.s. counterparts. our military has been closely watching north korea's movements and has maintained a full-fledged posture in close coordination with the u.s. this is north korea's second test this year, the last being a cruise missile test that came just a couple of weeks ago on april 18th. their last known ballistic missile test was on november 28th, 2017. yesterday during his nearly hour and a half long call with russian president putin, president trump got a readout of putin's meeting with kim jong-un that happened on april 25th. putin reportedly told president

trump that north korea has fulfilled its obligations and stressed the u.s. should reciprocate by reducing sanctions on the her mimit king. anita: eric? eric: north korea's ambassador to the united nations doesn't want to talk about otto warmbier. this as there were harsh words in washington for kim jong-un's brutal regime from otto's mother, cindy warmbier. he was the 22-year-old university of virginia student who was basically tortured to death by kim's goons in 2016. he was arrested while on a student tour. a federal judge in washington has ruled there were false charges so the north koreans could use otto as a propaganda pawn. recently, i approached north korea's ambassador to the united nations to ask him about otto and the new york city council plan to name the avenue in front of north korea's u.n. offices here in manhattan after him as a memorial to otto and reminder of kim's brutality.

here is the result. do you have any reaction if new york city names your street otto warmbier way? >> no. eric: any reaction to the warmbier family? anything to say at all, sir? >> i have nothing to comment. eric: thank you, sir. no apology, no kind words, nothing for the warmbier family or americans from kim's top diplomat at the u.n. no wonder otto's mother said this yesterday. >> north korea to me is a cancer on the earth. and if we ignore this cancer, it's not going to go away. it's going to kill all of us. eric: mrs. warmbier joined other activists and family members of victims of the kim regime at a symposium on north korea sponsored by the hudson institute. >> there's a charade going on

right now. it's called diplomacy. how can you have diplomacy with someone that never tells the truth? that's what i want to know. i'm all for it but i'm very skeptical. they only care about themselves. they do not care about all the people in the concentration camps. they are gulags to me. they are concentration camps. the only difference between hitler and him is he's doing it to all of his people. and to other people, too. eric: when otto was released in 2017, doctors say he was sent home to cincinnati, he was in a vegetative state, deaf and blind. >> my gorgeous boy, who every girl had an immediate crush on, looked like a monster.

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jackie heinrich joins us with their schedule. >> early primary states getting the most attention from democrats today. new hampshire with the first primary in the nation getting visits from john hickenlooper and seth moulton today. iowa seeing sanders, swalwell and warren. bill and hillary clinton are making a stop on their speaking tour in california. this weekend, pete buttigieg, hulian castro, kirsten gillibrand is stumping in texas. the total number of democrats in the race is now up to 21. the newest contender to join, senator michael bennet of colorado. he jumped in on thursday. a major moment for democrats this week was attorney general william barr's testimony before the senate judiciary committee over his handling of the mueller report. several democrats accusing him of lying to congress when he said that he wasn't aware of concerns from the special counsel's team over his four-page summary when, in fact,

he had received a letter from mr. mueller himself. at least ten democrats running for president have called for barr to resign, but one democrat sending a different message. former maryland congressman john delaney says the house should continue its probes over the mueller report but doesn't think president trump should be impeached. >> i think he's in current and constant violation of the emoluments clause but i don't think the majority of the american people want him out of office at this point so the answer is no. reporter: a big hurdle for democrats on the campaign trail will be competing with such a strong economy. according to the april jobs report, the unemployment rate is the lowest it's been in 49 years, just 3.6%. eric? eric: thanks so much. anita: well, the highly anticipated matchup between bernie sanders and joe biden quickly taking center stage, with early polls giving the advantage to the former vice

president. the latest real clear politics average shows joe biden with a commanding lead over the rest of the 2020 democratic field. let's bring in our political panel now to chew on these numbers. former democratic member of the ohio state senate and in the school of public affairs at american university and the former presidential writer for george w. bush, also founder and ceo of american majority. thanks to both of you for joining us on this saturday. >> absolutely. good afternoon. >> good to be with you. anita: thank you. so we just heard from our reporter that there are 21 democrats in the race and now we have joe biden and bernie sanders at the top of the heap. how do you figure the two oldest and whitest men are doing so well with democratic voters? capri, let me ask you first. >> i just think first off, we have to remember we are so far out from the actual first election, first primary, first caucus.

anything can happen between now and then. i think the easiest explanation of what we are seeing right now is the fact that both bernie sanders and joe biden are the best known individuals, they have the highest name recognition and they have the most extensive network nationally in order to tap into whether it's volunteers or fund-raising. i think that's what we're seeing now. i think a lot will hinge in the future on the performance in the debates and you know, those are going to start in june. and you know, with 21 candidates or now 22, i can't even keep up, there are 3800 delegates up for grabs to get the nomination. anything can happen between now and next summer, when the democratic national convention occurs. anita: ned, let me ask you, because it's not just on the democratic side. of course, the republican side, we have another older white man, president trump. so your thoughts on that? >> first of all, i have to agree, part of this is just about high name i.d. for biden and sanders, although i have to

tell you really quick on the democratic side, there are two very big dynamics that changed since the 2016 democratic primary. first, the dnc is not an extension of the clinton campaign as it was in 2016. joe biden does not have his guy running the dnc this time. two, the super-delegate rules have changed inside the democratic primary. they can't commit early, nor can they vote on the first ballot of the convention unless it's a done deal. i would argue that that was the last bastion that helped hillary hold off bernie in 2016. in regards to trump, i tell you what, it's going to be very hard, the dynamic that's also different compared to 2016, they're not running for an open seat. they are going to be running against an incumbent president who is running on an extremely strong economy, and typically, that's a very hard person to beat. we will see how this plays out but i like where trump is at at the moment. anita: i know you both said it is early, and of course it is, but just given that sanders and biden are the two frontrunners and we know they are acquaintances.

they are not particularly close. but how ugly is this going to get between the two of them on the campaign trail? >> you know, i will jump in here because i just recently saw, i think joe biden was recently in new hampshire, vermont is a neighboring state obviously up there, and he was actually singing bernie sanders' praise, saying he's the soul of the senate and kind of trying to couch him as -- couch bernie sanders as a good guy with good convictions but maybe not necessarily realistic to be president. i think that he also needs to be, whoever is the nominee, if it's not bernie sanders, needs to be careful they don't alienate those supporters or we will end up in a situation like we were in 2016 where one in ten bernie supporters was out there voting for donald trump. i think we hopefully have learned from the last election not to attack each other too much, but i'm not so sure about that. anita: ned? >> yeah, i don't know, capri. let's face it, i think the very far left progressive base is

deeply frustrated. again, they've got ideas that are very far left of the american mainstream, and they felt like in many ways, the deck was stacked against them in 2016. i don't think they are going to take it sitting down this time around. i don't know if it's going to get nasty between the candidates. typically it does. i have a hard time. the progressive base is not going to have the knives out for joe biden coming into the primary season. they already have. i think it's going to get even worse. anita: let me turn to something else, because we have less than a minute left. i want to put up on the screen a recent cnn poll that shows beto o'rourke holding a double digit lead on president trump in a head-to-head matchup. he's not even in the top five in the recent real clear politics average, so how do you figure that? let me start with you, ned. >> well, i have to say first of all, i could make a poll say whatever i want to. i think sometimes polls are meant to shape public opinion, not understand it. the only poll i really care about is november 3rd, 2020 when voters actually walk into the booth and pull the lever. again, i like donald trump's

record and what he's going to be running on next year. anita: capri? >> head-to-head polls mean nothing at all. that's not how elections are won. it's through the electoral college. i don't care what they say. anita: okay. well, folks, we will leave it there for today. thank you both so much for joining us. see you again. eric: there's a legislative push in several states to take president trump's name off the 2020 ballot. it could be getting some momentum in some blue states. washington state. the latest to consider a bill that would keep all presidential candidates off the primary or general election ballot unless they release their tax returns. 25 states have recently proposed similar measures. republicans, though, calling it a stunt aimed at hurting president trump's re-election chances. dan springer is live in the west coast newsroom with the details on this push. reporter: presidential candidates of course have been releasing their tax returns since the 1970s, but in the last election, of course, president

trump refused, saying he was under an audit. democrats will not let this issue go away. in the house they have issued subpoenas to get them, and now in 17 states, there are bills pending that would keep the president of the united states off the ballot in 2020 if he doesn't release his taxes. most of the states were won by hillary clinton in 2016, and in four of them, the bills have passed the senate. those being washington, hawaii, illinois and just this week in california. three of the states were won by trump, arizona, mississippi and the critical state of pennsylvania. democrats say it's about trust and transparency. >> tax returns go to the core of your true financial interests, and obviously, it's just unprecedented for president trump not to release his taxes. no one's ever even imagined that someone would do that. so i think it's a legitimate public policy issue. reporter: there's no law that says candidates have to release their tax returns, and the constitution only lays out a handful of requirements to be president, one must be 35 years old, a resident within the

united states for 14 years, and a natural-born citizen. so the legal debate is whether states which are in charge of conducting elections have the authority to add new requirements for candidates to appear on the ballot. >> the constitution has spoken to that and if you want to change the qualifications for the presidency, including if you want to add a qualification that says you have to release your tax returns, you need to amend the constitution to do that. reporter: the washington state attorney general, a democrat who was rumored to be a potential candidate for governor now that the governor in the state is running for president, gave the legislature the legal opinion that a court likely would conclude those states have the power to adopt this new requirement. but democrats are being called hypocrites because the bill only applies to the candidates for president and in fact, the sponsor of the bill in washington state refused to release her taxes. eric? eric: how about that. all right, dan, thanks. anita: well, the trump administration overhauling our

nation's asylum system but will this bold action ease the immigration crisis? our panel discusses, coming up next.

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anita: two people are still unaccounted for after a fiery explosion at a silicone plant in northeastern illinois. at least one person was killed, and four others were hurt. this happened around 9:30 last night in the city of waukegan. the explosion was so powerful, it completely leveled the building. we're told loud booms and rumbles could be felt from as far away as even wisconsin. the cause of the blast is still under investigation. eric: president trump is calling for a sweeping change of what he calls a broken asylum system. this as the surge of migrants continues to overwhelm resources at the border, says officials. arrests along the southern border have skyrocketed in recent months.

here's acting secretary of homeland security kevin mcaleenan about this. >> we are well beyond our capaci capacity. this means the new waves of vulnerable populations arriving here and exacerbating the already urgent humanitarian security crisis at the border, we don't have room to hold them, we don't have the authority to remove them fairly and expeditiously, and we are not likely -- and they are not likely to be allowed to remain in the country at the end of their immigration proceedings. eric: so what should be changed if anything? we are joined by the director of immigration studies at the cato institute and jenna ellis is with us, constitutional law attorney, member of the trump 2020 advisory board. jenna, we know what's going on at the border. more than a million illegals supposedly pouring over this year alone. activists say they have the right to flee oppression and murder. >> we are not tweaking the

rights to claim asylum or come in on a very specific qualifying ground but let's remember asylum is not immigration. there is a legal immigration process for people who want to come into the country and stay. what's going on is that our very generous asylum process is actually being abused by people who understand that coming in and saying those magic words, i fear for my life, or even coming in just on the basis of wanting a better life, an economic benefit, those aren't actually qualifying bases. asylum exists for people who genuinely fear persecution on qualifying bases. what president trump is looking to do, i think the key words there were fairly and expeditiously. we always want to make sure that a legal determination of asylum is rendered quickly so that people who do have meritful claims can stay in the country. but then people who are simply abusing the process cannot take advantage of the process for years or even come into our country and then we never hear from them again. this is about fairness and the

rule of law. eric: how bad is this alleged abuse in terms of what's going on there? >> well, there is a lot of abuse. i mean, it's estimated that 15% to 20% of these people asking for asylum will eventually get it. there are other people in the system who will get other visas by going through the process but the reason why a lot of these folks, there is a lot of abuse, are coming through and asking for asylum is because there is no other way for the vast majority of them to actually come here lawfully. it's just a myth that people can come here legally, anybody from around the world. that hasn't been the case in about a century. president trump i think has recognized this in other areas. that's why he has supported increasing the number of h2b visas for temporary workers. that's what i think the solution to this crisis is, it's not restricting asylum, not putting in place more regulations, not the types of rules he's proposed, but it's expanding legal immigration in other ways so that these folks can be channeled into the legal market rather than trying to restrict or raise the price of asylum seekers which is something that

frankly, other administrations have tried in the past and has never worked. eric: when you look at the numbers, it's pretty astounding. let me show you something, we will show the full screen, this is from syracuse university. right now, the total cases are more than 800,000, as you can see. it takes like two years before you get a hearing. once you get a hearing, let me show you some other numbers. this is pretty astounding. the number of asylum denials as far as central american countries, almost 69% are denied from el salvador. 76% denied from honduras. 75% denied from guatemala. 66% denied from mexico. syracuse university study numbers. jenna, if the system was working, why would you have such incredible numbers in the ratios of those who were denied? one would think if they were legitimate asylum claims you would have maybe 10% denied, not an overwhelming 70%. >> i think the high numbers of between the mid 60s to mid 70s

range of how many are denied just show how much abuse there is in the asylum system. i would agree with alex on that front, there is definitely a lot of abuse. but just to simply say okay, let's allow people to abuse the asylum system is not actually the solution here. the solution then is for congress to take a look at our immigration system and perhaps provide more pathways to legal immigration because let's remember, no one who is a non-citizen has a right to legal immigration. that's why we have a rule of law for that purpose. so the solution here is not to say just because 75% are abusing and actually committing criminal offenses, to get into this country, that we should just somehow take a blind eye to that and say that's fine for them to abuse our asylum system because they can't get in any other way. eric: what do you think we should do? how do we change it if need be? >> i think we need to change the system in the sense of allowing more lawful immigrants. you know, if 25% of these people are legitimate asylum seekers which it looks like, i don't want to send those people back to a regime where they will be abused which would be contrary

to i think our law and our principles. we need to find a way to let these people in legally that doesn't clog the asylum system so we keep that pathway open for people who are fleeing persecution and seeking to become americans. eric: alex and jenna, this is a continuing problem unless something is done. thanks for joining us this afternoon. >> thank you. anita: folks, hold on to your hats and mint juleps. horses getting saddled up to compete in the 145th kentucky derby at churchill downs. a look at the forecast coming up next. thanks for coming. no problem. -you're welcome. this is the durabed of the all new chevy silverado. it looks real sturdy. -the bed is huge. it has available led cargo area lighting. lights up the entire bed. it even offers a built in 120 volt outlet.

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anita: welcome back, everyone. the 145th running of the kentucky derby will get under way in about five hours, and it looks like the big race at churchill downs is going to be a wet one, with rain in the forecast for louisville today. let's go to the meteorologist live in the fox extreme weather center. that's terrible. can't you do better than that? >> unfortunately, i can't.

there has been round after round of rain across the middle of the country and unfortunately, we are continuing to see that. this is the satellite and radar, the southeast, really across this entire region, is going to be talking about more rain. we have seen these systems firing up in texas and kind of running through the middle of the country. fairly frequently, recently. there's a lot of flooding in the middle of the country. we won't get it to that degree. every one of these red areas is moderate flooding across the mississippi, stretching back to the missouri river. you start to see the purple colors, that's major flooding. there are a lot of these river gauges that are up to major flooding and we are going to be talking about kind of more rounds of rain. but here's your future radar. you can kind of pay attention, it's not a nonstop rain in kentucky, louisville, but even throughout that entire area, you are going to get breaks, you are going to get some rain before eventually clearing off overnight. but for today, anyway, we are going to be talking about those showers kind of lingering there coming and going. for the rest of the country, especially the eastern half of the country, it's been such a soggy spring thus far and unfortunately, it's continuing. this is our forecasted precipitation taking you all the

way the next five days out and there are big areas, again, in the middle of the country where we just highlighted all that flooding, spots getting up to four to six inches in the next five days, so that is just going to add to some of these flood problems. otherwise, temperatures across the country not too horribly bad out there today. looking at 61 degrees in chicago, 67 degrees, little bit warmer air, cooling in the middle of the country, fueling some of the showers. warm across the southeast. that's the case, 80 degrees in atlanta, 85 degrees running over towards raleigh and close to 70 degrees in new york. it's a gorgeous day temperature-wise but unfortunately, we just continue to battle those soggy conditions, especially in the southeast today. anita: looks like more wet weather ahead. adam, thank you so much. we'll be right back. drive safely.. . with drivewise. it lets you know when you go too fast... ...and brake too hard. with feedback to help you drive safer. giving you the power to actually lower your cost.

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