brown and her sister priscilla has raised more than $70 million for diabetes research. the amazon founder jeff bezos was in attendance last night. and the maximum-security written by jackie luis -- just under two minutes.♪ ♪ [music] ♪ >> hello america, i am mark ♪ levin. ♪ this is "life, liberty and ♪ levin". ♪ great guest again. attorney general, of virginia. >> thank you.>> you had a big landmark case. the obama case and it got all screwed up in court. [laughter] your well-known, anot just in conservative circles in legal circles. you have a great legal mind. i've known you very long time. at that is very important to have you here.

i want to thank you. >> is good to be with you. >> there's a lot going on and so we need to work our way through this. let's go back to the report. this report that came out, the mueller report. two sections. one section was legal. [laughter] no collision. >> right.>> kind of long. no collusion is two words last i checked. it goes on and on. then there is another section that is highly political. verbose. and completely differently. >> it does not read like a prosecutor would. >> that is the so-called obstruction section. >> right. >> a couple of questions on the obstruction issue. one of the individuals who was involved in writing the report was the number two guy. andrew wiseman, he was involved in the prosecution of arthur anderson. related to enron. arthur anderson as a result went out of business.

80,000 people lost their jobs. and that was focused on obstruction of justice. there really are two important elements. you need to know what you're doing. it is a specific crime so you need to have knowledge. >> right. has to be specific intent. >> so you need to have knowledge that you have a criminal motive. right? a corrupt purpose. >> right. and so, they were reversed mr. wiseman and the government. but arthur anderson already went out of business, 80,000 people lost their jobs. it was a decision of 9-0. if you take the cover page and the two senses on the last page and the summary it's a five page opinion. when you read volume to read like wiseman road appear

questionably expansive view of obstruction. >> right. let me ask you this question. if you are a prosecutor, robert really believed even though the department of justice position was you cannot indict a sitting president, he told the attorney general, it is not the reason they did not bring charges under obstruction. they did not have an obstruction case. >> right. that's right. >> it didn't hold them back, did it? >> no, it didn't. it's interesting when you listen to some people in mainstream media. the focus on language that talks about the department of justice, bipartisan department of justice but mueller also said in volume 2, that it did not hold them back. what they were saying was without regard to that policy of the department justice. they did not have a case to make. and that is what a prosecutor

does. they decide to prosecute or not. here they want beyond that is already discussed. but clearly on that question, they knew they didn't have a prosecution to go forward with. >> will hear hillary clinton, we hear others, who probably have not read this, the son did not read the supreme court decision in 2005 that wiseman was involved in prayer we hear the legal analyst and titles that they get. they do not know the law, do they? >> not frequently. it is very true. >> and if robert really wanted to bring a case he says he would have. it would have been challenging. he would have brought a case. but if you brought the case he would have lost and he would have lost badly because the two elements. >> and he knows that. >> so what did he write the follow-up to the report?>> volume 2 goes like you said, beyond a legal analysis. is not what i read there. i read a lot more political results in what they are writing. i think you could say he is ready for congress.

proceedings. but with so many facts laid out, because it is long, the whole thing almost 450 pages. we know a lot now and there just isn't anything there that meets, comes anywhere close to criminal standard. so if congress wants to proceed they will have to do on the political basis that robert miller put in the second part of the report. and it is political just like he said. d>> is adjusting, the attorney general, deputy attorney general and the office of legal counsel which is filled with civil servants and other legal offices in the department of justice, they looked at the information the prosecutor presented in they said, there is no case here. there's no ycase here based on what the supreme court has said. based on law.

and they have said to have been basically sellouts. so we move into the political. volume 2 is written for the political. let's see if you agree with me. what do the prosecutors office know when the rating volume 2? they knew the democrats took the house of representatives. what else did they know? they knew the nominee, with bill barr duntil the judiciary committee during his confirmation hearings i'm going to try and release as much of this as i can. >> right. >> classified, so forth i will hold back. he was not required to turn over anything. but he says look, i'm going to try and turn over as much as i can. so the prosecutors office knew the democrats control the house. and number two the reports can be released. volume 2 has very little redacted information in there. >> almost none. >> so who are they writing it for? they were not writing for the department of justice because they were going to do anything. they are writing for the media, democratic chairman of the committees, and they are running wild with it. politically.

that's what i want to get to. if all of these subpoenas being thrown out there. nadler pushed out how many? >> 81. >> is already done, that is pre-mueller. >> pre-mueller, but to 81. >> no ablation with therefor. >> no o explanation, family members, business associates, homeless people. i don't know, anyone out there. [laughter] all kinds of documents he wants. then we have elijah cummings and the lihouse oversight refor committee. he is going after the president for taxes, going after the accountant, and not just that, they will all notes and communication between the president when he was a private citizen, his family members, and in other committee. headed by maxine waters. the financial services or whatever they call it committee. they want all the presidents bank account information. they are sitting there coordinating. >> of course. or>> to do what?

>> personal destruction. >> personal distraction.>> right, that is what is about. >> is that a legitimate role for >> of course not. they can issue subpoena for legislative purposes and oversight purposes. and nadler started the ball rolling with his 81 subpoenas. none of the folks who got the subpoenas were given either of those reasons. they were very generic. people have already started saying, i'm not turning anything over to you. i'm not coming.they are refusing. and on the record so far, the public record so far, they would win those contests. >> challenge in that. >> yes, there's no basis for congress to issue these yet. and nadler is not willing to say we are pursuing impeachment or considering impeachment.he is not saying that. it is quite a redline to step over. even nancy pelosi and hoyer, the majority leader have been

trying to talk to people down. they're trying to avoid the political cost so they don't have a basis to issue the subpoenas. if you're on the e presidents team, one of the things it's got very little coverage about the mueller report, is, you mentioned the reductions. they didn't claim executive privilege one single time. >> the president. that's right, you remember the clinton impeachment process. setting politics aside they use executive privilege all over. >> they created privilege. we never heard of it. >> that's exactly right. they were creating brand-new fresh ones. they did not refuse writing any witnesses. the president did not sit down to be interviewed. he did answering questions which are in the report unredacted. and read very straightforward, very honestly and therefore, they've got no coverage. because they don't give anybody

anything to stoke fires with. and so they been incredibly open with robert mueller during the investigation and of course, we know how the president feels about this investigation. now we know even more. not just that it was a witchhunt from his perspective but that undermine the legitimacy of his presidency in some peoples eyes. and he has a great concern about that. and yet, the turn over a million documents, they make everyone aware has available, the president was only available in writing. and so now you have got congress coming in and the president say no, no, no. we cooperated 100 percent. more than anyone else in our lifetime. nixon did not cooperate like this, and clinton did not cooperate like this. >> -- maybe they should have. but here is the thing. you have the president dealing with his own administration.

special counsel after all is inferior, that is the theory anyway. now you have a separation of powers issue. now is the time you can assert privilege. so nadler says too late, he did not asserted during the other investigation. is nadler a constitutional illiterate? i mean now we are talking about separation of powers. >> right. >> does the president have an obligation to do this to protect the offices of the presidency? so future congresses are not demanding personal financial information, tax returns, bank information. the president does not report to the house of representatives. that is not who he represents. he represents the american people. >> that's a good point. everyone personalizes, and it is human nature. the personal is the presidency. it is president trump right now and before it was barack obama.

but it is its own office, it has its own article in the constitution. article 2. in addition to protecting themselves the president also has an obligation to protect the presidency. and establishing precedents of feeding ground to the article one branch, something that all of his successors would ishave live with. >> of congress gets away with this, what is to stop them from subpoenaing the chief justice bank records or the chief justice is tax returns or anybody they don't like? or for that matter any citizen they are focused on trying to harass. there bank accounts, the tax returns, whatever. i have to believe it ever gets to the supreme court, those gentlemen and ladies but to be thinking about it.because it may be some congress is hostile to them. i want to pursue this with you in a moment further. before we go, do not forget, you can join me on levintv just go online or give us a call 844-levintv. we will be right back.

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robert mueller knew very early on the investigation that there was no collusion. no collaboration, so why did he not tell the american people? >> perhaps one of the most

political aspects of the report is the fact that it didn't come several months earlier. eif it comes several months earlier, a different party might still be in control of the house of representatives. they were more or less done t. with the information gathering that early. it was a question of wrapping it up. and like you said, there was no evidence of collusion. really at any point, we saw information come out slowly in indictments, and witnesses would talk and so forth. there was never anything as someone that managed a team prosecutors and in the attorneys office, there was never anything that pointed to actual intentional cooperation no incorporation between any american. we've all focused on the trump campaign. this noted that no american that they identified cooperated with the russians knowing they

were cooperating -- >> you are an attorney general sitting and watching us. hysterical media. 24/7. people connecting dots that don't even exist. >> right. >> collusion, collusion, collusion. burdening a president, and they wanted to interview him. knowing full well there was no collusion. the conclusion come up with is a former chief of staff and attorney general, may be as a former attorney general they were out to get him. there was no need to talk to him. >> i agree. at that it was entirely appropriate and smart for the president not to sit down with the investigation and look, a couple minutes earlier i pointed out how they cooperated in every way.

they gave him documents, everyone in the white house was available, the president didn't sit down and wasn't directly interviewed. nor should he have been under the circumstances. >> and the reason they didn't issue a subpoena, you need some kind of predicate when you're going to demand the president come. they did not have one. because there was no collision, was there? >> no. of course include the written answers the wpresident gave to the questions which has gotten zero coverage. because it was so straightforward and frankly, logical to anyone he goes through and read some all. there is nothing to punch holes in. and this is an introduction, we wanted to sit down with him, we tried for a year but really when we gathered all the other information, we didn't feel like we needed to do that anymore, that it wasn't worth the hassle. and so they more or less conceded that they can come to all of their -- that more than enough information to draw the conclusions they did draw. if you're the president there is one way but to go down.

so why would you do that? >> you would be tested. >> you do not have a base to argue to the judge. >> circled back to don mcgahn. the presidents counsel, extraordinary president allows him to testify to the prosecutors. not for the grand jury. to the prosecutors. which means the white house knew that none of this would be redacted. it is not the grand jury. >> no it is not. >> 30 hours. that is a lot of time. >> that is a lot of time. >> how much in the report of the testimony is there? >> less than one page. >> less than one page. what happened to the 30 hours? [laughter] >> apparently nothing very interesting. >> is not interesting! >> it's easy to turn the numbers out. for people their lawyers want to the an eight hour deposition is a marathon. we have a point at the heart of why you're interviewing rethis opponent, you come out it 20

different ways in eight hours. and they were with him for 30 hours. and all we see is the exchange about the president wanted to fire the special counsel. don mcgahn did not want the special counsel fired. and that is pretty much it. and the president did not fire him. you know how that turned out. >> this is .very important. 30 hours, a couple of sentences. in a report that is really not legal, volume 2. >> right, none of those a restrictions. >> knows grand jury and they only give us a couple of sentences. you and i both know and you pointed at this. you have the presidents counsel, it is a gift you cannot dream about. >> right. >> you know damn well they asked about obstruction 100 different ways. you know they came at him hard about it. that is the best they have.

that he asked don mcgahn to fire robert mueller. he says that per the president says i never said that. and my point, number one, i bet they videotaped this. >> i would have. >> i would have. >> i would have for sure. >> i would love to see the rest. i think it can only help the president of the united states because his prosecutors took what they thought that was the best they could cherry pick and they put in volume 2. what about the other 29 hours and 59 minutes? [laughter] what else took place there? that's number one. number two is this. the president could have filed robert mueller anytime he wanted. there is nothing that says he has to ask his counsel. >> counsel is not the chain of command. white house counsel is an advisor to fthe presidency. that's it! the president never made any attempt to actually fire the special counsel. they obviously argued about it or assuming there is some accuracy in there.

they argued about it. but good lawyers do not tell clients what they want to hear. good lawyers evaluate a question and tell the client these are your options in this is what i suggest. they can argue about it. i've argued with my clients and some of the arguments they have taken my advice and others they haven't. those regretted not taking my advice but the president, lawyers advised, client seaside. the president clearly, by not doing it, decided not to fire robert mueller because as you said, there was never any impediment to him, ever! >> so this idea that don mcgahn save the president. it is just another phony pseudo-argument. we will be right back. s. with all that usaa offers why go with anybody else? we know their rates are good, we know that they're always going to take care of us. it was an instant savings and i should have changed a long time ago. it was funny because when we would call another insurance company,

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impeach you. [laughter] but they're basically saying to him, we want you to bless the weapons by which we can destroy you. >> right. >> and if you don't allow us to destroy you we will let you -- us destroy you anyway. have you ever seen anything like this?>> no, not even in the isclinton impeachment which politically, was a mistake. >> but he committed crimes. >> right, yes, lying under oath, on video, etc. and while president. and in front of a federal judge. >> that is true. all of those things correct and yet, he did not have this kind of orchestrated broad scale, the whole you know they are turning over the three committees to this effort. basically. and i just have never seen anything like it. also of course, is in the first term of the president. and it's an important distinction that even

hoyer -- in the case of bill clinton they were in a second term. there's no accountability. this can be tried in public if you will with the american people. this president is running for election next year. i think he is perfectly to do battle in these issues in the public arena. when he's not going to concede to do as his already said and demonstrate, he will not play their game, their way in the house of representatives. and they don't have the authority because of the separation of powers to compel them to do it. so why should he? we will see this played out i think over the next year and 1/2. but my view, of the media perspective on this is that you got the so-called corridor, the newark washington corridor people that get all worked up into a lather about a lot of the stuff that ordinary americans do not care a lick about. there is no collision, no obstruction, let's move on to

make this country even better than it is. and why are you people wasting your time on this? i think that the americans view. s.for the average american. by and large my view. particularly when he was much cooperation by the president in the white house with the mueller investigation which they thought very ill of anyway. in the first place. >> let me try this on. the chairman of this house oversight reform committee, elijah cummings is from baltimore. >> right. >> heavy blue, heavy democrat. safe seat. >> same with nadler. >> nadler, no republican will taken. waters, la, same thing. pelosi, san francisco same thing. >>. [laughter] yeah. democrats run f the house of representatives. they have a caucus, a handful have the iron fist. they come out of these very specific areas of the country.

that basically represent 90 miles on one of asthe country - and on the other end of country with a big country in between. all of those red places and purple places -- >> right. >> live a handful of the members of the house of representatives trying to take down the president of thebecause he is of a different party in philosophy. and let me suggest this to you. if they succeed, i don't think they will. if they will, it is the greatest act of voter suppression in american history. over 63 million people voted for this president. and with a handful of radical democrats are saying is, too bad. >> right. >> it is also the greatest disenfranchisement. >> that is what i would describe.

>> in the history of the country. over 63 million people tare being told, the vote you took in 2016, that doesn't matter. what do you think of that? >> i think a lot of the 63 million people are frankly pretty ticked off about the attempt. because that is what they are trying to do. it's interesting that the past week hillary clinton resurfaces with an op-ed in the "washington post". it will say agree with one thing she said in there.she started out by saying i may not be the best messenger to talk about the subject. you think! [laughter] and it is sour grapes. lost an election for governor. >> tiny, 2 and a half percent. >> two and half percent here in virginia. while i engaged on issues, where the fourth amendment issues, number of issues in virginia, i never directly engaged with terry mcauliffe, the one that won the race. i think frankly presidents that have gone out of office have behave similar. doing battle as she did this

week, it lowers your credibility. you sound like a sore loser because frankly, you are a sore loser, and she is among the sorest of sore losers. and it demonstrates the deprivation of what she's arguing for. all she did was try to lay out a slow walk to impeachment. that's all. and what i thought was most interesting when i got to the end of it is, there is no statement and we need to show no one is above the law because no clinton is ever going to write that. [laughter] >> hewe will be right back. and outdoor allergens. like those from buddy. because stuffed animals are clearly no substitute for real ones. feel the clarity. and live claritin clear. we're finally back out in our yard, but so are they. scotts turf builder triple action. it kills weeds, prevents crabgrass

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about the interference in the election about the obama administration. the entire senior of the fbi wiped out, they are either under criminal investigation or inspector general investigation. they were leakers. stthey were colluding. they have a dossier paid for by the hillary campaign and the dnc and they used it. >> paid a foreigner to interview russians to get dirt on their opponent. but apparently, it is a enprobl when the other side tries to get dirt on their opponent. from the same people. >> yeah but we did not pay people to do it.t. here's the thing. robert mueller asked to do the investigation, he was doing tax for, wire fraud, prostitutes, all kind of things. >> and paul manafort. >> but he never asked to look into the russians. the hillary campaign. the d&c. the corrupt activities with the

fisa court. why is that? >> that is a very good question. if we give them the benefit of the doubt, i think the best answer, and we will not know for a few months probably, is that the inspector general is already looking at some of that. >> the inspector general could only look at the department of justice. he does not have subpoena power. >> that's right. so he cannot look at the connections in the campaign world. quickly of susan rice, the national security obama and then the head of it says the russians are trying to tap into our system. this is near the end of the administration. and she, paraphrasing here she says stand down, don't write onanything we don't want paper this. we've unprecedented unmasking of american citizens going on. estimate the powers, it wasn't me so someone is unmasking american citizens using her name. lieutenant general michael flynn, michael flynn is

encouraged to do an interview without lawyers present. first time the express is no f problem, the second time peter strzok sets him up. and he's fighting for his life. >> right. proceed the deputy attorney general and obama holdover, sally yates. who undertakes an investigation of him under the logan act. jawhich nobody has come is like the jaywalking act that no one enforces. and they use that, all of this going on, as mr. nadler interested in it? >> of course not. >> and mr. cummings interested in it? >> of course not. >> is maxine waters? >> of course not. >> nancy pelosi? >> no. >> how about 90 percent of the media? >> not in the least. >> why would that be? >> because it doesn't fit the narrative. >> and the president of united states he won. all of these activities that are going on, do think apart

from the base on politically, the american people watching us, those who are paying attention, which is not most of them, what you think they make of this? >> they see washington behaving in a way that is irrelevant to their life. and spinning their wheels in the mud and i pick mud intentionally. just practicing the politics of personal destruction. they voted and i think the average american view is, get on with it. it, being the business of government. look at what's going on on the border. there's a desperate need for congressional action. they all acknowledge and yet, do nothing. instead the senate subpoenas without a basis. tto fight wars with the president that have already been investigated by margaret mueller. and nothing gets done.

no progress is made. >> this is wwhat i'm worried about. they refuse to secure the border. >> right. >> now the so-called manufactured crisis, everyone knows it wasn't manufactured and it is a five alarm fire. >> right. >> action begins in the house of representatives. they are doing absolutely nothing. red china is on the move. massive increase in the military. their naval powers incredible right now. their missile technology is incredible right now. >> right. >> they sent into space, satellites that would kill our settlers and our military ability to target sites and so forth were there getting bases and strongholds in south africa. part of our hemisphere. russia is on the move. same thing. we have a problem with iran, that's an understatement. with all these problems going on. and the democrats in the house of representatives act like there's nothing going on. matter fact, we just got report the itsocial security is going hundred 18 years and medicare and eight years. is there a single proposal coming out of the house of representatives? >> medicare for all, right?

mathematics is not a prerequisite to be in congress. >> what about the media? >> they are the communications arm for the democrats in the house, really on capitol hill. house democrats are louder, we hear more from them now but before the election we heard from schumer and his car but they're not the majority so it's really turned to the democrats in the house. and we will hear more from the democrat candidates as we approach 2020. it will be interesting to see just how crazy extreme they're willing to go to try and pick up votes. >> itself that they are ready there. >> we think they are. but they will come aout and th will surprise even you and me. >> what's left?>> exactly! what's left? i don't even want to speculate because it might come true. and you heard it here on this show first.they will have a contested presidential convention.they do not have

winner takes all states and live too many candidates. no one will go with the majority. and it will be a dog fight for delegates. that is about 2500 people, roughly. where do you think they fall? and that is who is going to decide their nominee. so we'll be hearing a lot more about all the crazy stuff, including the not well base conclusions coming out of the mueller report from their presidential candidates. >> do not forget ladies and gentlemen, you can watch levin tv on blaze tv.com that is their wonderful conservative network over there. or call us at 844-levintv. we will be right back. are you going 45? -uh, yes. 55 is a suggestion. -...it's kind of like driving with his dad. -what a sign, huh? terry, can you take a selfie of me? -take a selfie of you? -yeah.

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there is cherry picking and court picking going uon from wlitigants. trying to undermined every step of the way, his immigration agenda. aren't they? >> absolutely and there being very aggressive. frankly, it doesn't make us happy but there being successful at it. they are slowing down this president. really, virtually all of these challenges when they get to the supreme court the president is winning these things. so with the lower courts are doing is just slowing things down, helping the president loses in 2020. so that he doends up between sl approval of his nominees and the slow down by the judiciary of the implementation of the agenda essentially denying him years of governance. time of actual governing that the american people elected him to do. if he gets reelected in 2020,

the courts will be in a very ndifficult place because as you and i know, the cases, many of them working their way up to the courts will start getting decided much more quickly, simply because it got to the process of the supreme court. the president will be left actually able to implement the agenda he has campaigned on. >> with or without congress participating? >> is really quite amazing, isn't it? donald trump comes, he's not a traditional conservative. he's not philosophical conservative. he is definitely an outsider. he gets elected despite all these forces against him. >> right. >> the media, the money people, the democrats, his own party. and they are furious and they are trying to reverse the course, they trying to stop his agenda and what i've noticed, curious, he is getting more and more conservative. and he understands these forces better than most anybody since reagan. because he's having to fight with them every single day just

to do what he campaigned on. do you get that sense? >> yes, i definitely think. look, he never sold himself as a traditional conservative. he sold himself as a practical person. a practical list. he told us what is trade policy was. he told us what his immigration policy was. he told us he wasn't going to come here and get along with people who are already here. he has succeeded in that. [laughter] and look, look at the deregulatory agenda. he has done only what he said he was going to do, the 21 ratio. i can tell you in my role of writing regulations they blown doors off the deregulatory goals that they set for themselves.and it is a huge part of why economic opportunity and freedom is growing in the country because you reduce government power, you increase citizen liberty and you reproduce opportunity. the judge's he's nominating and then when they do get to the senate, have been spectacular

and highly qualified and he ran very specifically on those, he is keeping his promises. and he is fighting hard on immigration despite having his hands tied as best they can by the courts and an hminactive congress. whether was democrat or republican. republican. >> we will be right back. what's up with your... partner? not again. limu that's your reflection. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ thanksno problem.. -you're welcome. this is the durabed of the all new chevy silverado. it looks real sturdy. -the bed is huge. it has available led cargo area lighting. lights up the entire bed. it even offers a built in 120 volt outlet. wow. plug that in for me. whoa! -holy smokes! -oh wow! and the all new silverado has more trim levels than any other pickup. whoa! oh wow! -very cool. there's something for all of us. absolutely. it's time to upgrade. (laughter)

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five, 10 and 15 years? >> i think it depends on 2020. as you talked about your courts and a congress that are trying to impede the agenda of the president who ran very clearly on certain goals. and is trying to achieve them. and they are trying to wear him down in the hopes he does not get reelected. if he does get reelected, then a lot of his agenda is going to break through the dam, especially on n immigration, which has been where the other

side has been most successful epin stymieing the president. >> me ask you this based on what you're saying. >> plus judge pics. >> we don't have a lot of time. as our republic slipping away? apart from elections. we been talking about course out of control, and bureaucracy out of control, congress and some is quite diabolical. even in art, just depending what's going on. the american people are almost you know, observers rather than participants in so many things. but as the republic slipping away? are we more inwardly post constitutional period? >> we are definitely for some people, in a post constitutional period. we both know there plenty people in this country on the left who think the constitution is a tremendous inconvenience. justice ruth bader ginsburg famously doing interviews about how mediocre our constitution is relative to others in the world. i think that if the president had not won in 2016, and ended up with a genuinely liberal

anti-constitutional majority on the supreme court, then i think we would be slipping away. we do not have a conservative court. >> no, we don't. >> we do not have a conservative court. -- nonetheless, that is a firewall on sliding down the slope. >> look at how we are talking. supreme court. >> it is saving us and it is supposed to be the weakest branch. and what is supposed be the strongest branch to sit on their hands, does nothing on areas of national security, first responsibility of government. >> congress. >> s except try to take out another branch of government. [laughter] while creating a fourth branch of government. it's been good to have you, i s think we are in for very tough times actually. it is good to have people like

you out there explaining to the american people what the law actually is. >> you do a great job of that yourself. >> thank you.>> always a pleasure mark. >> alright folks, see you next week on "life, liberty and levin". jesse: welcome to "watters' world" i am jesse watters. joe biden splendors per the subject of tonight waters words joe biden epic typical politician.>> we ever run for political office again? >> no, no. >> of course he goes back on his word like others but in his first major campaign event only 600 people showed up. here's a little side-by-side of joe's audience. and president trump's audience from last week. 600 and the audience. it see