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>> bill: we are a royal baby, what else? >> julie: i think that's enough for three hours! we get to another great news. that's a good way to start a monday. >> bill: that we did. we hope we have an awesome weekend. we will see her tomorrow. >> julie: "outnumbered" starts here. see you tomorrow. >> harris: fox news alert from democrats to bring up the battle of the white house of the fallout of the mueller report. that was judiciary committee has scheduled a vote over whether to hold the attorney general in contempt of congress after the justice department missed the democrats deadline to turn over the full unredacted mueller report. you're watching "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, melissa francis, fox business network anchor dagen mcdowell, fox news contributor jessica tarlov, and then the center seat, gopac chairman and veteran republican strategist, david avella is with us. great to see you. happy monday. >> david: happy national beverage day, ladies! >> jessica: i did not done that. >> harris: having sparkling water. [laughter] really, it's right behind me.
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democrat surging up the pressure prayed the president is pushing back. that's judiciary committee will vote wednesday on whether they don't like their thread to hold attorney general barr and contempt will happen. meanwhile, democrats also pushing for special counsel robert mueller testified. the house judiciary committee has set a tentative date of may 15th for that. president trump treated this over the weekend. after spending more than $35 million over a two-year period, interviewing 500 people, using 18 from-eating a gray democrats and 49 fbi agents, all culminating in a 400 page report showing no collusion, why would the democrats now need to enter testify? no redos for the dems!" we should note, the president previously had said whether mueller testifies is up to the attorney general barr. the attorney general as that he doesn't have any objections.
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they say democrats in congress will get their witnesses one way or the other. speaking of the people who continue to work for the president will abide by the order that they not show a pairt will create legal challenges for them. people who don't work for the president anymore, people like don mcgahn, very shortly bob mueller, they are going to show up. or congress will ratchet up its activity to get what the constitution says it gets. the right to do oversight and talk to anybody that congress wants to talk about. >> harris: having reviewed a number of the democrats pushing for this, including ham, i would say that i understand for some of this , they are really sincerely looking for answers. what happens politically if those answers don't change? no matter how much they read, what do they rest? >> david: it continues to strengthen the president's hand. we were here out of the democrats of somebody that wrote
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the book and would like it and they want the movie version to be better. let's keep in mind, when you use the justice system or for political theater, you get less justice. but that's what this is about. this is a show right now so the democrats, when in reality, the report is not going to change. no new information is going to be found. the biggest news we found recently is the fact that now you have attorney general barr and the ig report, which we have to start to think, are the dems trying to keep the focus on the mueller report so that we are not so focused on the upcoming ig report? how did all this get started? why did this steele dossier become such a credible source that ultimately led to the investigation? >> harris: just a quick follow-up before you open up to the rest of the couch. platforms and policies and thanks, what are people saying to you as you go out for your team and talk with people across the country about the mueller
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report and where we are with the site? >> david: its head-scratching to many. the report has not come on. it's not good at changing evidence >> harris: are they reading? >> david: is a top-selling book. to think about 2020, is someone going to be sitting on their couch in 2020, in september, and say, "hmm, was barr telling the truth or not? will that change my life were not? "that's how they make the decision for the four and 2020. it has no impact on 2020. >> harris: jessica? >> jessica: there was new polling over the weekend that shows only 3% of americans are rather report. it may be selling well but nobody's reading it. [laughter] i got mine sent to become too. that's an issue. people are relying on us, the people that they follow, however the newscasters are, to give
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them the tidbits of it. that they think are relevant. we also know from polling that 50% of americans think that president trump lied. but also only 37% favor impeachment. that's an important finding, we will talk about the next move here. the president says he is completely exonerated. he says he did absolutely nothing wrong and eyes of those 12 angry democrats actually found. what is the problem in having bob mueller come, especially if ag barr so there's a problem, and on the again question work he's at jack somebody who has more to hide when that 440 pages disposed of -- the mueller report from its occlusion, no provable conspiracy, and lots of obstruction of justice. he may decision himself that he wants referred don mcleod to fit. saying it's not happy with the summary document. that has raised questions. >> melissa: you say he's acting like he has something to hide. to others, it looks like he's acting like somebody was and trapped. who had people coming in and
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sending spies out to try and trap people that were a part of his campaign. on the bottom line, democrats promised that he was a puppet of putin, a russian spy. that turned out not to be true. so for democrats that are pivoting to something else they can find, whether it's obstruction or things he did report when they approach and pray for people like hillary clinton, she switched over the leak into the ballot boxes that were tampered with and breached. everybody's trying to find their new angle after he is not the manchurian candidate from russi russia. >> harris: which, by the way, his dicey ground for democrats, dagen. they've been saying all along that there was no way anything was tampered with or husband in terms of voting. as you go for it, they've been pushing voter suppression. nothing to see here in terms of how things went down. >> jessica: in wisconsin, there was a conversation about it in florida. >> dagen: the biggest lie that was spun and attempted sale to
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the american people was the rush of collusion narrative. largely, the media and people on the left in congress. if you look at president trump, he has every right to be angry. he was called a traitor, a russian asset, a prisoner committed treason. if there's pushback i think the average person understands that. i want to point out that what president trump said was that popular should not testify, no reduce. bob mueller will testify. what's going to happen is, one, i think he owes an answer as to why he did not make a prosecutorial decision. >> harris: they want to ask my question. >> dagen: tell us. i read the mueller report from every word. it's not clear in their why he chose to make that decision. >> harris: i would like for you to respond to something jessica said. that there's plenty of collusion in there. there's a lot of collusion in there but not provable conspiracy. i've had experts not explain it that way at all. what did you read question a driver to come too.
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>> dagen: it's a lot of anecdotes about their attempt to interfere in our political system. but they are not connected to a conspiracy. they don't result in a conspiracy or any kind of coordinated effort between the trump campaign and russia. it's a lot of people who kind of didn't know what they were doing. >> harris: which is not necessarily collusion pair that's what i wanted to get you to respond specifically. >> jessica: but is not necessarily provable conspiracy. there were a lot of willing actors in the orbit, putting his own son, that welcomed russians and withdrew the information, whatever it was. with ties that they went on to lodge of the fbi about. there people that have been indicted because of it. those are incidences of collusion. but not provable conspiracy. >> harris: there was no shortage of people not knowing what the truth was at the moment. even papadopoulos said he lied. he didn't even know why he lied. [laughs] he didn't need to. he hadn't done anything wrong. >> melissa: when you talk about donald trump, don jr.,
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that was the situation where bob -- he adjusted and significant route. if somebody offered something, he said, "sure, we would like to see it." which donald still set on error. people office of all the time. >> dagen: if you read the mueller report, a lot of what was in the dossier that was paid for by they have a concern, a lot. again, this is what ag bill barr is trying to get them to along with the inspector general. >> melissa: i'm not saying he lied, i'm saying he did receive anything pair that's what we are saying. >> david: is interesting to hear jessica and other democrats who want to port over every word of the mueller report. when we had an entire democratic congress that felt not one iota of a need to read obamacare before they passed it. we may remember the great line. nancy pelosi, we need to pass it so we know what's in it. now have democratic party that feels we need to pour over every
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word of this mueller report that, in reality, isn't going to change. it isn't going to -- they should have read obamacare. >> harris: that is a chilling, interesting comparison come too. i say chilling because which one has the immediate effect on people's lives? >> david: obamacare. >> jessica: it was popular and the republicans haven't put up a decent plan and just last of the midterm election. >> dagen: there's the private. i want to bring it back to mob done like bob mueller. all he has to do is if there's any impediment to him testifying in front of house judiciary, from the department of justice, he just has to quit. and they will call him and he can appear, quite frankly. >> melissa: i would love to hear from him myself. >> jessica: a lot of replicants do. it makes sense. >> harris: they are asking the same question you did. why not come down one way or the other on obstruction customer know everybody is in limbo interpreting what you say. by the way, if either side really wanted to see an
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unredacted report, they could change the rules and we could see it. they could see it tomorrow. they put that grand jury testimony] and, for what they are congress can do. >> dagen: as andy mccarthy wrote, he said the problem with this punting on this prosecutorial decision by bob mueller, he turns to process on its head, innocent until proven guilty. that's not the way that report read great emmet flood, at the white house counsel letter last week, he essentially said that. >> harris: we will move in don mcgahn. top ten because of trying to tamp down impeachment talks from the parties left, as some democrats think republicans are trying to goad them into a political trap. add stock down today as the white house has threatened to higher tariffs on chinese goods. whether president trump is making good strategic move or taking too large of a risk. the debate you don't want to mess. speak of the president, is, i think i'm issuing a warning
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$600 billion to $800 billion a year on trade trade with china we lose $500 billion. sorry, we are not going to be doing that anymore. the president picking up -- picking up an unlikely ally. democratic senate minority leader chuck schumer, tweeting, "hang tough on china, president trump. don't back down. strength is the only way to win with china." check is right. here's national economic council director, larry kudlow, speaking yesterday about the new pressure from the president. >> we have made great progress and we want to be optimistic. if it doesn't work out, i think with the president is saying in today's tweet is that we will continue the tariffs. we believe that's in the best interest of the united states. and china has got to end it's unfair, nonreciprocal trading system. >> melissa: dagen, i think of the stock market as the lie detector. it's a wonder woman's magic lasso that makes you tell the
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truth. the market was telling us today that it believes the president's threat. that he could back out of this negotiation. if you've ever negotiated tough, you have to be willing to threaten and walk away. the market believes that he's really willing to do that. >> dagen: it's because the threat is bigger than the threat that we've heard before. we know about the 10% tariff going to 25% on $200 billion in goods. but now he has ratcheted up the pressure with the $325 billion in additional chinese goods and pulled it into the united states. "i mating those shortly." i think that was the word. those were the 25% tariff. here's why that's important, that's all the goods that we import into the united states. why are we doing those? our economy is in an extremely strong position. he saw the jobs report, unemployment rate near a 50-year low, which is growing at the fastest pace in a decade. the chinese economy is not that
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strong. it's in a precarious situation and just overnight the chinese central bank had to pump an additional nearly $42 billion into the chinese economy, tweaking the reserve requirements. that's an indication of where china is working for them. plus, he doesn't have that much time between now and the election season, we are they getting to kick into high gear. that's what he's doing this now. i have to point this out. this makes me bananas. >> melissa: oh, no! [laughs] >> dagen: when he treats about, "we lose come as a nation, $500 billion every year to china." our trade deficit is not a loss. we get stuff. we just buy more stuff than we sell to china. you go to the grocery store, you get 50 bucks have you walk it with a bag of groceries. it's the same thing. you do lose into local property, which is up to $600 billion every year. that's what he needs to be talking about. that's why we are in these trade negotiations. not because of deficit. >> melissa: you're absolutely right, but americans aren't listening to the numbers any.
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don't ask people to do math, they never like to do that on twitter. >> harris: some of us love math. we are children of engineers. [laughter] >> melissa: girls rock at math! >> harris: i would say this. to make it plain and simple, they are listening. [laughs] they are listening to us now! the world is taking us seriously. what has changed and all of that question or even senator schumer sees it. it may not be best on twitter, but the fact is those strong words are being taken seriously. china is in more of a -- i asked the president about this. i said, "is china in a capitulated position?" he said, "no, but we have their attention." >> melissa: before you answer, we are getting breaking news paid this is from deirdre bolton that business that group. the chinese estimate did not get on the plane to come to d.c. for trade talks this week. he was mostly sunny. the rest of the delegation did not make the trip. larry kudlow said he thinks we are at about the 5-yard line. but when you're having a tough trade negotiation you can fumble the ball right there with no
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score. >> david: china does not want to be a trading partner. they want to dominate us. we have to keep that in mind. the president has been very clear, from the day he announced his campaign to today that he was going to take a tough stance to china. he wasn't going to love them to take a badge of american workers. he was going get a better trade deal and he continues to work to achieve that end. when you look at what they are trying to do with perception medicine and taking your intellectual property or not, that is a big part of the negotiation. otherwise you get placebo drugs coming to this country. he will get bad drugs coming in. they are going to attempt to bring bad drugs into this country. that's why the president has to stay tough. they don't want to be her trading partner, they want to dominate. >> you know who disagrees customer joe biden. play it >> china is going to eat our lunch? come on, man. they are not bad folks, folks. guess what? they are not competition for us.
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>> jessica: so, he actually was forced to explain what he meant by that in an interview on saturday. with an nbc affiliate, where he said, "i did mean they aren't a threat, i met we can handle and outsmart them." any reference back to when he was vice president and china said, "we will have no-fly zones over our territories." and biden himself told them, "we are going to fly over whenever we want to fly over. that's our business." guess what? the u.s. kept flying over. i don't think joe biden has much to apologize for here. the clarification obviously helps. this is a sound bite that has been running there. there will be people who are running with it. but i think he actually has a record that he can .2, which only helps them in 2020. i think it was agreed that he made that specific point. >> dagen: we don't think joe biden should keep apologizing for anything. [laughs] >> jessica: its clarification, not an apology preyed on the line there. b5 if president trump and this is administration want to get tough with china, then stop spending so much borrowed money.
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because we are borrowing from china. they are one of the two biggest foreign holders of our u.s. data. we are running budget deficits back near the $1 trillion mark. you want to take power away from them and take it back, stop living off -- >> harris: wouldn't have to restructure our economy in order to do that? we could do that even with republicans, by camberley and control over the last year up until the midterms of 2016. >> melissa: became committed want to. >> harris: it is swamp-what up in there. >> dagen: again, now he's a swamp denizen, i suppose. president trump has been spending money had overfished just like every of the president going back to, well, reagan. >> melissa: last word. >> jessica: i just want to bring up that soybean futures, which are crushing the reset of any of this, we are assuming that he is signed to an entity 16. looking ahead, to those become votes that are up for grabs?
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>> harris: that's a good question for you. >> melissa: we will see. great question. >> david: is a great question when you think about how joe biden voted for the trade deals that got us here. >> jessica: you are a pivot machine, my friend. >> melissa: the president called him sleepy joe biden. but now the democratic presidential candidate is sitting back with his own nickname for the president. whether that is a good idea, and how ugly things could get. plus, the president says he will run on the economy, and the latest jobs report shows it is booming. but democrats hope to take the issue away from him. can they succeed? we will debate. >> i love that trump is taking care, credit of a recovery that started under obama. but the substance of this, who is the economy going to work for? we have to make sure this is a shared recovery. right now it definitely is not. ♪ all across the country, now's the time to use your valuable va home loan benefit. newday usa can help you refinance and get 54,000 dollars or more
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handling of the economy heading into 2020. this apparent new push from democrats comes a made a series of positive developments, including a jobs report exceeding expectations, rising wages, fastest pace in about a decade. 2020 hopeful senator amy klobuchar not giving president trump the credit. >> i give our workers and our businesses the credit, jake. when you're out there across the country, you see people working harder and harder every day, and this has meant that we are -- our businesses are stronger selling american goods. a lot of people aren't sharing in this prosperity because of the cost. the cost of college, the cost of health care. >> dagen: meantime, hillary clinton acknowledging the strong economy but cautioning that other factors should go into electing a president. listen to this. >> it is the economy. it's always the economy. but that's not the only reason that we should elect a president
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or, in this case, retire one. yes, maybe the economy is still pumping along, but all of the sudden you've got tens of millions of americans who are much less secure because their health care is gone. >> dagen: the comments come after an nbc news "wall street journal" poll that shows 51% of americans approve of the president's handling of the economy. that same poll shows voters rank the economy as their third most important issue behind health care and immigration. david, what do you make of this? i called this a while ago. i said, "these democrats would try and talk on the economy and convince people their lives are financially horrible when the prosperity is spreading." >> david: the party that's insensitive to the economy loses. the democrats right now are insensitive to what's going on in the economy. consumer confidence was up this month come as you and melissa have reported and know. let's take other content her
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comments and senator booker at his, we have tax cuts. let's get rid of the obamacare tax is been a little longer need. that scared medical device tax or the tax and health care plans. that puts many people's pockets. to be able to afford health care plans. secretary clinton is concerned about health care. here is a double-win. let's get rid of the obamacare taxes, make health care better, and continue approving the economy. >> melissa: i think you took her bait. it was smart of her to link that you may be better off, but are you more insecure because you don't health care? to prove it to health care when the economy is your winter, when go out what cory booker said, he is just factually incorrect. maybe he doesn't do numbers, i don't know. if you look at gdp growth, it was discovered under president obama, he went from 2.3% to 1.9% to 1.8%. when the president came into office, president obama famously said that 2% was the new normal, that would be like europe. immediately under president trump jumps to 2.9% on
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average. we saw 4.2%. real median income did not budge under president obama. it has been rising, the divide between rich and poor got dramatically wider according to government statistics under president obama. be the slowest recovery ever according to the federal reserve. according to the latest report we've seen wages for low and middle class rise much faster than for the wealthiest, although wages across the board are rising. just from the numbers without politics, the president definitely wins the economics argument. linking it to health care is an interesting pivot. >> david: you have to, melissa. why did we lose suburban voters in the 2018 elections question not because they didn't think we had an answer in health care. we get consumer confidence is up. you look at all the recent polls, the president given very high numbers on the economy. the economy is not our achilles' heel. having a strong answer on health care is an answer we have to have in 2019. >> harris: between 115th in 16
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of the economy is made up of health care. see up on that part of the puzzle. the president told this two months ago. senator mitch mcconnell says, "we are not doing health care. let's do health care." what am get credit for seeing where that achilles' heel is right now. he was ready to do something. >> dagen: at the president doesn't have a plan on health care. >> harris: he says he knows, that he's ready to have that conversation at least paid they have seven years, republicans, to come up with it. >> dagen: they kind of -- >> jessica: when you look at the plans coming up from the democrats right now, you had joe biden support the public option instead of medicare for all with smart fixes to obamacare. there's a very exciting plan from lauren underwood, a freshman congresswoman who is a former nurse, that i would love to see joe biden use as a deliberate plan to fix the parts of obamacare that --
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is still overwhelmingly popular, it's over 50%. >> dagen: i will ask about the economy, though. i don't mean to interrupt you. this is stuff that melissa was talking about. >> jessica: i know. so you have the employment rate for people who graduate from community college, vocational school, is lower than who graduated from four-year schools right now. right out of college. right out of school. the 12 month wage again for production workers is faster than that for all workers. it's much faster in mining, leisure, and hospitality, and in retail over the last year. how the democrats running a risk? when you are essentially praying that the economy really just stinks in order to win an election. again, that's in the message. >> jessica: it's a delicate dance. because we have some of the candidates, that shows how each of them are taking. amy klobuchar is running in the center lane. she wants to talk about workers. that's how well workers are doing and how hard they are working. the delicate dance comes from making the argument that elizabeth warren and mei
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pete buttigieg is making, which is about just capitalism or democratic capitalism. we need to have a fairer system. president trump, as a candidate for president, used the same language is bernie sanders pretty said the game is rigged against you folks. "i'm making too much money, you are not making enough money." that's what you hear on the trail from democrats. >> melissa: he has answered that argument. >> jessica: hasn't. >> melissa: yes, if you look at the numbers they take a political lens off, wages are growing dramatically. for low income people. >> jessica: but it was below expectations. the employment -- >> melissa: but it was higher than obama had the whole time. biden's economy, those wages fell. we didn't say any growth in that area. under terms economy, those of exploded. >> jessica: bit over 50% of americans don't think they have tax cut. that's the part number. when you're messaging on the campaign trail come you're talking to people have a certain perception. like trump base voters -- >> melissa: i think they hope
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they continue that. >> dagen: faster economic growth, and the tax cuts have basically reduced income inequality in this country. >> harris: let's go to the white house paid the president awarding commander-in-chief the trophy to members of the u.s. my academy. those of the army black knifes, the president there flanked by members of the season's winner of the american college football series. the u.s. naval academy, the air force, the falcons, and the midshipmen who compete for this. there have only been a few times in recent history since 1993. just four occasions. right now the repeat champions, although they have the fewest of these, the army black knights. air force falcons lead the way with more than 20 of these victories. the president of the united states, giving that high commander in chief sports award trophy to the u.s. military academy. congratulations to them. we are taking a quick break. before that, a little bit about
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what we will be talking about when we come back. tamping down the impeachment talks. it could be nancy pelosi's hardest job yet i speaker, whether impeachment would mean big trouble for the democrats in 2020. if it would really be a boon for the president. the debate, next. ♪ there are ordinary eggs... and the best. which egg tastes more farm-fresh and delicious? only eggland's best. with more vitamins d and e and 25% less saturated fat? only eggland's best. better taste, better nutrition, better eggs.
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♪ >> jessica: house democratic leaders trying hard to tempt out impeachment calls from the left flank as they reportedly believe republicans are trying to goad them into doing it. according to "the new york times," "nancy pelosi does not believe president trump can be removed through impeachment. the only way to do it she said this week is to defeat them in 2020 by a margin so big he cannot challenge the legitimacy of the democratic victory." congressman al green of texas, one of the first democrats to file impeachment articles, this is a feeling to be to hand him a second term >> if you don't impeach his president, he will get
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reelected. if we don't impeach him, he will say he has been vindicated. he was the democrats have an overwhelming majority in the take up impeachment. he will say that we have a constitutional duty to do it if it was there and we didn't. >> jessica: president trump responding in a treat. "in other words, they can't win the election fairly. you can't impeach the president for carrying the best economy and our country's history." i would be first. meanwhile, a poll shows americans but an issue. 49% say congress should either begin an hour continue investigating to see if there's enough evidence to hold in the future, while 48% say they believe congress should not hold impeachment hearings. david, i thought that poll was interesting, the phraseology. begin impeachment hearings were continue investigating. those are very separate issues there. i assume you think all of this is a boon for president trump, come 2020. >> david: is a boon for the president, it's a requirement for nancy pelosi. it's only way she can keep our caucus from wanting votes on
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medicare for all in the green deal. two of which are issues that will ensure president trump's reelection. if she can keep them focused on impeachment, they are not going to ultimately come up with -- to force her to have a vote on things that will cause -- >> jessica: but she's been running away from this for months. >> melissa: i think she's the only one who doesn't want impeachment right now. because republicans are cheering for it, and i do believe the premise of the segment, they are trying to goad democrats into doing it. i think there are a lot of democrats on the far left i believe he deserves that. at the very of lease, it givesm a theater to air the grievances, the high crimes and misdemeanors they think he committed. there is this teeny sliver of people who think that it's too dangerous, and nancy pelosi is in that sliver. >> harris: you hit the nail on nail on the head about being able to tee up for all of those people who are thirsty for the spotlight. on the far left, are they able to take the mantle?
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nancy pelosi has kept them at bay, saying, "look, i'm waiting for evidence." i don't think that even post the mueller report, that she believes -- based on everything she's been saying -- that the ball has moved in terms of how much closer you get to impeachment. i do believe she appeases these people and her party that say, "but we want to be heard and come after the president for race and for this and that, let us talk about it!" al green said impeachment one before the mueller report. >> jessica: he was always an outline. >> harris: i don't know that he's not layered. maybe when you take a vote back then. but when you look at how many people want this investigation among democrats to go on, i wanted him rejected a report when they themselves could be part of delivering an unredacted -- but changing the laws and rules thereof, it makes you question if they are in the two winners they just love -- >> jessica: because of the mueller report come it turns to a conversation about obstruction of justice, which is part of why they want but merely --
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's view on your thought bubble is huge right now, dagen. >> dagen: "but harris, it's not impeachment, it's shminshmeachment." [laughter] it's like saying that attorney general bill barr lied. that he committed a crime. this is to see how far they can push it. they will work at the trump administration, barr can even trap himself. around the edges. i don't think they have the guts. i think nancy pelosi is putting the hammer down. >> david: are talking about it as though nancy pelosi doesn't want to impeachment. but every couple days she said something that keeps stirring the pot to do that. >> harris: is the pressure greater within her own party that it is without? the pressure must be to some insight >> david: she has some big votes coming up. she's got to figure out how to keep that caucus together. let's go back to what we are talking about at the front end
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of the show, which is trade deals. nasa is it a deal. after capacity to decree in canada, mexico, the united states. has to come through the house. she has to get votes for it. she has to build a signature or caucus, "i'd like to mike otherwise is going to hurt the u.s. economy. a party that is insensitive to the economy loses elections. see what i thought bill clinton give us that. i don't understand where the disconnect is. >> jessica: nancy pelosi knows exactly what she's doing. she's been very clear on impeachment. >> dagen: shminshmeachment! >> jessica: they ask the question of april 20th, that he seemed to contradict last week. moving on. he says he doesn't want to wade into the mud, joe biden reportedly has a new nickname for the president. among some of your choice words. whether this is a good idea or if it plays right into the president's hands.
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>> melissa: more "outnumbered" in just a minute. first let's check in with harris and see what she's got cooking for "outnumbered overtime." >> harris: melissa, thank you. the house judiciary committee set to vote monday on holding
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william barr in contempt of conr report. the committee's drinking republican, doug collins, will join you. and we will talk about how the g.o.p. plans to respond. plus, the u.s. is sending a carrier group and a bomber task force in the middle east. what national security advisor john bolton is calling "a clear message to iran." could this increase the chance of a military conflict question or we will break it all down. "outnumbered overtime" at the top of the hour. back to you guys. >> melissa: all right. it appears joe biden is wading into the nickname business, according to politico the former vp referred to president trump as a clown at a private fund-raiser in south carolina over the weekend. biden reportedly saying there are so many nicknames, "i'm inclined to give this guy, we can start with clown." when he says these ridiculous things, about my head up and say everybody knows who you are because they do know." while telling those in attendance that he did not want to get into mud with president trump, biden also reported that he said that the
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president is a "no good s.o.b. who will likely go after his family." do you think that is better? >> jessica: i think that once more effective and clear about what it is. i don't think he's going to come up with a formal nickname. i think he's just going to use disparaging words throughout this period but i would say on this front that the president wants to play with nicknames, fine. biden should be focused on the grid endorsements out of south carolina and florida this weekend. he's fund-raising well, pulling well. bernie sanders' donations have been halved since joe biden got in the race. that 27 going on, i got an email asking for $3. he's making big waves. >> melissa: in spite of those endorsements and self-care of uncovered our own david avella had an opinion piece that ran in foxnews.com making this prediction. "biden and the other declared democratic candidates have yet to turn their fire on each othe
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other. once they do, you can guarantee that the former vice president will be the first candidate attacked. it'll get very personal and gloves-off nasty. sooner rather than later he will be out of the race. by the time the succulent primary votes are counted," just go pointing out he got grid endorsements are paid what he think he's out so quickly? >> david: could be joe biden had a case to make in 2016 when he could have been president obama's third term. 2020 will be radically different. the democratic primary base is not looking for somebody who is like president trump. they want somebody who is the exact opposite of president trump. as these democrats start fighting one another, it's going to get very personal. it's going get very nasty. the first person intact is joe biden. >> melissa: i think -- >> dagen: it depends on the polls. jessica watches these. if they want to find some of you who can beat president trump, that would put them leaning
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toward joe biden. one thing i want to point out, they have already started going after joe biden a little bit. at the des moines brewery, because they are pushing him on climate change. it's all about the penguins. that's effective. and bernie sanders have started to attack joe biden on his -- on some of his votes, like the iraq war and on trade. >> jessica: he does it on the crime bill, as well. but bernie sanders would for the chime democrat ability. the senior drug joe biden, simone sanderson was was with him in 2016. bernie voted for this, too. when you look at the gaps showing up now, biden and sanders were near-ish each other. now you're euro eligible digits. in the latest quinnipiac poll. >> dagen: ever of the stampede in the real clear politics average of polls, he is leading bernie by more than 20 points. >> melissa: jessica, why do
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you think that has happened? >> jessica: i think this is a conversation about electability. who people think are best equipped to beat term. it's important to also consider that the last one we had was a black eye. conversations about electability and saying it's got to be a boo-boo boomer only white men to get the middle of the country back, obama proved that wrong. >> dagen: really quickly -- the nicknames have to be about the person. low energy, lying ted, that's why those work. >> melissa: more "outnumbered" in just a moment. ♪ allstate. with accident forgiveness they guarantee your rates won't go up just because of an accident. smart kid. indeed. are you in good hands? every curve, every innovation, every feeling. a product of mastery. lease the 2019 es 350 for $379 a month for 36 months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer.
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>> david: national beverage date, time to grab a nice beverage outside. >> melissa: [laughs] we are back here at noon eastern tomorrow. now here's harris. >> harris: we begin with this fox news alert, the battle over the mueller report entering a new phase as democrats take the first formal steps toward holding attorney general barr in contempt of congress. this is "outnumbered overtime," and harris faulkner. another showdown as the house judiciary committee is set to vote wednesday told attorney general barr in contempt after he missed chairman nadler's a.m. deadline today to turn over documents related to the mueller report. that is not all. president trump is going after democrats' efforts to have special counsel robert mueller testified next week, accusing them of looking for a redo on the russia probe. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge from washington, the president says no reading for democrats. >> that's right, harris, and good afternoon. the report from house democrats lays out their

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