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as it continues to unfold. highlands ranch, colorado, south of denver. two victims, two suspects in custody. one suspect thought to be at large. now it's time for "the five." i am shepard smith. fox news new york. >> kennedy: >> authorities say e been fired outside denver, colorado, . two people have been injured but they are still gathering information. the sheriff reportedly describing the situation is unstable and is asking the public to avoid the area. we are monitoring the breaking news and will bring you the details as they come. meantime, hello, everyone. i am dana perino with dagen mcdowell, juan williams, jesse watters, and greg gutfeld. he's back. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five" ." turning to our other top story, tensions rising between the white house and congressional democrats who are now threatening trump officials with
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contempt. the house judiciary committee said to vote tomorrow on a contempt citation against attorney general bill barr. democrats are demanding that barr hand over in unredacted version of the mueller report and calls starting for treasury secretary steven mnuchin to be held in contempt for refusing to hand over the president's tax return. ordering donald mcgahn not to comply with a congressional subpoena. all of this comes as a new report says, get this, house democrats are threatening to withhold salaries of trump administration officials if they block ongoing committee investigations. despite claims of overage from republicans, democrats are defending their multiple probes. >> as members of congress, we have a responsibility. we will see what this white house and this administration is doing. i can only hope that as the months go by, that the american people wake up to the fact that our democracy is in danger. >> our leader says let's move on. it is worded like richard nixon
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saying let's move on at the height of the investigation of his wrongdoing. of course he wants to move on. he wants to cover up. >> we are about getting the truth to the macon people. the truth is what we want to base our decisions on. the administration should be willing to share that unless i have something to hide. >> dana: and you have the media blasting republicans for defending the president. >> you look at barr. you look at pompeo. >> has now surrounded himself with the most duplicitous cabinet in recent american history. it's shameful. >> they want a 1-party state. that's what the g.o.p. seeks and trump wants to be an autocrat with that state behind him. >> how is it that the republican party, your colleagues, can stand by this man when he's involved in this way with russi russia? i said that i don't want to see
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any of those flag pins on republicans who don't stand up against the sky for russian meddling in other things. it seems as though he's unpatriotic. >> shepard: where to even begin? greg gutfeld, let's go to you. mcconnell spoke today for the first time, give a long speech in said case closed. it was funny to watch chuck schumer move to say -- >> greg: moveon.org. the dems are desperate. they are like a tiny army faced with a dwindling patch of turf to defend. remember how big the threat was a publisher's ago? trump was insane, racist, threats of world safety and the economy. now you have the greatest economy in 50 years, low unemployment. what do they have? what are they clinging to? tax returns and their feelings are hurt over the mueller report which they asked for. if you're going to scream about cover-up and conspiracy, stick to stuff like jfk or space aliens. not something publicly available. it's really hard to call it a
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cover-up when something is publicly available. it reminds me of growing up watching the harlem globetrotters play the washington generals. trump is the harlem globetrotters and the media and the democrats by the washington generals. they can only respond helplessly against the strange phenomenon. they never adjust or adapt to play against the harlem globetrotters because they just lose every time. i imagine a group of people who demanded you adhere to their delusions or they will punish you. that's what's going on right no now. the media, the view, morning what's his face, they belong to a basically a pagan religion in which they adhere to them kind of emotional belief that goes against all the facts, low unemployment among minorities, women, gdp, stock market moving up even though it drops now and then. peace and prosperity. there pagan cult religion has
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been telling everybody the world is going to hell. >> dana: speaker pelosi said trump is trying to goad us into impeaching him. she clearly doesn't want to do it but you might get pushed into it. i am reading here that interior commerce and justice department staff, they are warned they wils withheld if they block ongoing committee investigations. in a lot of these disputes, i've never heard of that. republicans didn't think about that in benghazi. >> jesse: brass knuckle tactics. you've got to give the democrats credits. why can't we withhold their salaries? i think that should be an option because they have lied for two years about the president. >> greg: they should withhold trump -- oh, wait. he does isn't take one. >> jesse: he is donating it. here's what's happening, nadler is like a peeping tom. it's gotten creepy. he's peering through the windows, looking at people's diaries, rummaging through
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garbage. he looks weird. right now mueller spent two years looking for something, didn't find a crime. the democrats can't accept the results of the mueller report. just as they can't accept the results of the 2016 election. the bottom line is without collusion, the scandal is not sexy. you don't have dead bodies. or have video. don't have anything compelling. >> dana: contempt of congress. >> jesse: contempt, attempted obstruction, executive privilege for the american people, they don't have the appetite for that type of scandal. they can only digest so much. i don't think the american people know who donald mcgahn is. if i asked ten people who william barr is, less than half would know who he has. we have a new q poll, quinnipiac, juan. the public opposes impeachment by 37-point margin. 70 for that of independents are against the idea but the democrat base want that so they
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need another constitutional crisis so they have to cook up a new crime after the investigation found no crime. >> dana: there was another new poll, juan. i'm kidding. i would never do that to you. i gallup poll shows he's more popular than ever before. this is the number, 46%. i think this is where president obama was this time in his presidency. >> juan: yeah, went over this yesterday. >> dana: sorry. greg. >> greg: we were here yesterday. >> juan: it's good news for president trump. obviously he's still underwater but the question is who is moving in those poles. what we see is independents aren't moving. slight movement among democrats. >> jesse: the democrats -- they did. they went up from 31 to 39. >> juan: all right. the point is when you have one greg is talking about, who won the last election in terms of popular vote? i think it was a democrat.
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right now most americans don't approve of trump's behavior as president of the united states. >> greg: more popular than obama at the time. >> juan: even with the economy up there, this guy can't get a majority of americans to approve of his conduct. >> dana: 46 is higher than what hillary and trump were as candidates. neither of them broke 43 i don't think. >> dagen: and his approval rating on the economy is much higher because again this country is so prosperous right now and wages are growing. we can get into this later. wages are growing faster for production workers, mining or retail, your wages are growing faster than supervisory jobs. it closes the wealth gap. >> juan: from a low level. >> dana: isn't that what we want to do? >> dagen: wages are growing the fastest pace in a decade. it's not something president obama could ever do. decades. i want to bring up one thing,
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you are brought up hillary. hillary! we are thankful she's not the president of the united states we have to listen to that every day. in terms of the tv talk show host, how close are we to them having reagan mcneil moment. they are so enraged with bile. they will understand how we feel having to watch these clips every day. >> juan: , i follow up on the whole business about the war. i think there's a big war going on between the white house and congress. these documents. i think, it's very interesting whether people know who donald mcgahn is or not, obviously was the white house where that was brought in by mueller and apparently he said to mueller that trump had -- button now the white house is saying we're not going to let you have the documents that mcgann had anything to resolve how is it possible because some of this is, as you point out, already in the report that's largely been made public. some of it is redacted. some of the underlying documents
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have been kept secret but donald mcgahn is there. i don't know how you go onto gonna claim something like executive privilege. the logic doesn't make sense. it looks like the president is hiding something. he's acting like a guilty man. >> dana: it's hard to run for reelection saying that you ran for two years on this issue. >> greg: i'm excited that cnn is going to have a james comey town hall. why's that necessary? why would you have a town hall with james comey? you've got to keep it alive. the profit motive for cnn and msnbc is always going to be conflict. because they betray their audience with their lie of collusion, they have to -- it's like they are at a bar running out of booze so they have watered down booze so comey is there watered-down booze. it's not about congress. it's not a battle between congress and trump. it's the polarity between media and america. the media is so upset this narrative collapsed. >> juan: what do you say to
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national gun registry. watch senator spartacus dodging a question about jailing gun owners. >> would you prosecute people? do you support the government buying the back and if not potential people could go to jail if they don't want to sell them back. >> we should have a law that bans these weapons and we should have a reasonable. period in which people can turn and >> jesse: kamala harris wants to scrap all of president trump's tax cuts and replace them with this big government handout instead. >> for families that make less than $100,000 a year. i will implement a plan of allowing them to have a tax credit of up to $6,000 a year that they can receive at up to $500 a month. >> jesse: bernie sanders bashing biden for daring to say he is the most progressive candidate. >> i think if you look at joe's record and you look at my record, i don't think there's much question about who is more progressive.
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>> jesse: dana, this might help joe biden, being criticized from the left. >> dana: he is the undisputed front runner by a country mile. it's undeniable across the boar board. it is true in all demographics and i don't think it's just name i.d. for a long time, democrats that were in the race before he got in would say well, people know his name. once he got income as numbers went up and they went up again. it will be interesting to see how the democrats decide to start take him down and who might tame me up -- team up. you see these stories about hunter biden and the questions about the ukraine connections and did biden do anything to help. i don't think those are just being pushed from the right. >> jesse: who do you think leaked that? >> dana: who do you think leaked the touchiness stuff. who has the most to lose? to me, it's bernie sanders. he's very amiable in the clip that you just saw. we didn't the part where he says i like joe but his voting record is not mine.
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let me tell you what i'm for instead and he makes the contrast pretty well. right now, especially because of african-american support for joe biden, and the southern states the go first in the primary, the race goes through biden right now. will he become the nominee? it's so early. it's may of 2019. who knows question are definitely right now he's the one to beat. >> jesse: it will be interesting to see how he's going to react. as he tried to appeal to the left and say no, no, no, i am super regressive. does he hold strong? >> greg: what was the telling point about biden, he was asked if he had a slogan. it's like they asked him the square root. it was like asking the square root of three. he was going broke, it's 1.37205080757. i am from the national gun registry if it's like the bridal registry. i would like a glock and someone
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goes and buys you the glock. i think a national gun registry is exactly what america needs. to bring us together. we bite other guns. you have a collection of candidates who want bombers to vote, who want your guns confiscated. who want reparations. these are not candidates for president. there candidates for evening gigs on msnbc. it's a platform that's as yurok's copy of a media matters newsletter. it's not going to be hard for biden to look like a centrist. all he has to do is stand there and not say anything stupid. that's the challenge for him. the big problem is both segments of the democratic party are boring. the centrist is boring and even the progressives are boring. all they have is "we are not trump." they need need to have eric trp which is someone not merely a politician but someone who transcends party lines and litmus test. someone who has some charisma and danger enterprise. >> dana: that's not going to be howard schultz?
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>> greg: no, although i do like howie. >> jesse: juan, want to think about that national gun registry situation. and him -- full disclosure. my uncle endorsed spartacus. >> dana: why do you keep doing that? >> jesse: i think it's the appropriate thing, as a journalist. >> juan: he also said he only has 1t in his last name. >> jesse: my uncle has disowned me. if cory booker won't answer the question people are going to go door-to-door and take your guns. it is it weird? >> juan: he didn't say take your guns. you would have a registry. that's the law. >> greg: at crate and barrel. >> juan: it's a great idea. you can still own guns. it just means, as most americans think, we should do a better job of background check and knowing who has guns. >> dagen: no, no, no.
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>> juan: one of their realities is that joe biden is the big front runner among the democrats so to really run against them at this point, you got to go to his left. that's a wide-open lane right now. the data shows democrats are with biden which is the exact opposite of all this talk about socialist democrats, wild eyed liberals. >> dagen: i will sum up this quickly. joe biden is plain hard to get. he's got in late, laying back. desperate and needy are never a turn on, never attractive. that's easy from cory booker and people pulling down in the bottom. >> jesse: this is a fox news alert. six ralph state mike pompeo leaving arak after making a surprise trip to baghdad. this comes amid mounting tensions with iran and news that the u.s. is having an aircraft carrier group to the region. pompeo meeting with iraq's primary minister and other officials during a roughly 4-hour visit. up next, video of an unhinged
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protect you. that's okay. it doesn't mean you have a moral right to be out here. >> juan: the lawmaker defending himself from criticism. he's not the first -- it's not the first time he's done this. three weeks ago, the same lawmaker offered a reward to anyone who would reveal the identities of pro-life teens who are praying outside the clinic. >> pseudo-christian protesters who've been out here shaming young girls for being here. i've got $100 to anyone who will identify any of these three. >> juan: dagen, obviously people are reacting to this, especially pro-life, poor choice. the argument would be it's her first amendment right to be there. his first amendment rights also be there. >> dagen: yeah, this is over the line, particularly when you go after young women and you're trying to essentially doxx them or expose where they live.
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this is how conservative feel, you're not allowed to disagree with the left and if you disagree with these people who are preaching tolerance but showing intolerance in the name of that, if you disagree with them, they will not just belch bile at you and spew invective and call you horrible sexist things. they are going to come for you. they are going to come for you where you are or you're trying to exercise your first amendment rights of expression and they will come for you and your home. this is despicable. >> juan: jesse, isn't it the case that if were talking about examples of people being harassed, bombings and even murderers, there's far more examples of this coming from people who are antiabortion. >> jesse: are you talking about abortion bombers? i haven't seen a lot of that recently. obviously that's violence and atrocious behavior. it's apples and oranges. the democrats don't debate people, they doxx you.
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they try to shut you down. conservative speakers on campus shutdown. conservatives in the media faced boycotts. conservatives on on social media, they get de-platformed. democrats can have an and talk to a conversation about most thing, especially abortion. they don't make distinctions with regards to adults and children either. they went after little girls here. they've gone after barron trump and ugly ways. they did that same thing to the covington kids. that's why conservatives have to wake up and realize this is a fight to the teeth with these people. you have to circle the wagons on principle and defend people on principle when they are targeted like this. >> juan: you can talk to me any time, jesse. i enjoy it. >> jesse: thank you. just listen. >> dagen: you show up at my house with a cell phone taking video of me, pavement dive. >> juan: oh, my gosh. i'm scared. dana, what we see in reality
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here, governor bryant kemp of georgia signed a six week abortion law and we have three other states that have done so similarly. kentucky, mississippi, ohio. the counterargument would be some people don't even know they are pregnant six weeks in. >> dana: okay. well, first of all, those legislatures are passing those laws. people voted for their state representative and state senator and those representatives, democratically elected state literature, they voted and the governor signed it. legal. if you win the elections, you get to pass laws. so there's that. the thing about this guy is that he thinks that that woman who by the way, the woman he was attacking, will be on tucker carlson tonight. how do you think that's going to work out for you? she wasn't shaming people. if you can't tell the difference between shaming people and praying for life, you will never win another election.
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>> juan: okay. well, i think there's lots of arguments there but greg, would you make of this? >> greg: i don't know. dana, what is the biblical term when you describe a mule? >> dana: i don't know my biblical -- >> greg: what is another word for mule? >> dana: donkey. >> greg: or? >> jesse: say it, dana. >> dana: a an ass. >> greg: what are you digging with a shovel? >> dana: a hole? >> greg: take those words and put them together. that's what he is. >> dana: sorry. i've got it. >> greg: i am obsessed with peoples blind spots. what he saw was one of the greatest blind spots ever. this guy thought he was doing some amazing feminist virtue signal that was going to gain him so much cool factor on various networks. this was going to make his name.
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he's like the creepy jock in high school that his name to the lonely kid in the hallway and thinks that it's cool that people think he's actually really cool because he's picking on that guy at his locker making his life hell. he had no idea what he looks like right there. you think about, you can disagree about how you feel about abortion or not but pro-lifers do believe that they are giving a voice to the voiceless. that's what they're doing. they are saying because unborn children can't speak, i am speaking for them and i'm praying for them. i understand that. where would this guy have been in slave times questioning the argument was similar. people honestly believed that slavery was humanizing. they were denying humans the right to speak. where would he have been in the world of slavery? would he have been mocking people who are antislavery. i think he would have. paid >> dana: where's the 2020 democratic candidate who decides to figure out a way to figure
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out of the pack of candidates and say "don't do that." nobody is willing. >> dagen: they are trying to stop people from talking about governor ralph northam and the explanation of how infanticide works. he was explaining how infanticide would work under a law in virginia and then didn't realize that he was weaned that until he got called on it. >> juan: i would love to see republicans speak out against army of god and the extremists and the people who kill doctors who are willing to perform abortions. >> greg: i think people have. i have looked it up. i've seen it. you should read more about it. >> juan: politicize the issue to generate based on the conservative side. >> greg: i don't begin to but he does that. i think you're making that up. >> juan: i'm not. a journalist being called out for comparing climate change to an alien invasion. we will so showing that next on "the five." first we had to shepard smith the breaking news on the school shooting in colorado.
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>> shepard: we now know that there are at least seven victims, possibly eight and that the school shooting happened at the middle school section of this stem school in highlands ranch, colorado. for those of you who weren't with us earlier, about 1:00 150 local time, mountain time in denver. reports of shots fired at stem school in highlands ranch. that is south of denver, past littleton, colorado, were columbine high school is. the next community is highlands ranch. the sheriff's give us an update. they originally said two victims. now we know there were seven and possibly eight. happened in the middle school section of the school. it's a k-12 place but it was in the middle school building. two juvenile suspects are now in custody. the sheriff says they are both juveniles. they don't know they are students that school. two are in custody. the sheriff had reported they were looking for a possible
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third suspect. they no longer believe there was a third suspect. the school administrators reported shots fired. officers arrived within minutes. they are still going door-to-door in the school. it's somewhat of an active scene. but they believe at least that the danger to students is passe passed. again, and active scene. highlands ranch colorado. two suspects are in custody. "the five" will continue after this en with licensed agents available 24/7. it's not just easy. it's having-a-walrus-in-goal easy! roooaaaar! it's a walrus! ridiculous! yes! nice save, big guy! good job duncan! way to go! [chanting] it's not just easy. it's geico easy. oh, duncan. stay up. no sleepies. it's geico easy. metastatic breast cancer is relentless, but i'm relentless too.
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in the view of researchers, at least on the west coast. you look at it and you think they should be our great unifying moment. this is the moment when space aliens land with ray guns and are threatening us when we band together. this is. >> but it's not. for your average american at home, they are not space aliens coming out and saying were going to take you over. this is an intangible. >> dagen: you think that's bad, watch cnn ratcheting up the rhetoric. >> as far are rapidly dwindling biodiversity, these experts claim it's the 11th hour. we much back now. consuming less, using less, having fewer children. >> dagen: greg, what is it about that accent that is more frightening? >> greg: i don't know. i am all for them having fewer children. they are broadcasting location, on the edge of the hudson river which theoretically in a couple years will be underwater.
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if they believed in all the crap they were talking about, they would move to the hudson river. they would move to a high mountain so they can still continue to project their newscast the nobody listens to. this guy is pretty xenophobic. he assumes we are going to be invaded by space aliens and they are not going to be friendly. he assumes they're going to invade and tried to kill us. aliens, they could be peaceful. they might even be delicious. >> dana: they might have created this world. kidding. >> greg: you're right. >> dana: simulation! >> greg: we are the product of space aliens. he's talking about how we don't have unifying moment. who's fault is that? if aliens came down from planet dana and wanting to kill all of us, do you think the democrats would unite under trump? no, they would unite with the space aliens. >> juan: oh, my god, . >> jesse: the illegals. >> greg: build a wall around planet dana.
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>> juan: they are invading. you better send the military to the southern border. >> jesse: i've done some research because i'm trying to keep up with greg on the research front and we found some wrong doomsday predictions for the so-called experts. in 1970, the first earth day, this is what scientists, professors and journalists and politicians at a 1970. civilizational end in 30 years. that was a harvard biologist. >> juan: was that trump's election? >> jesse: that was a "new york times" editorial, not extinct yet. 200 million people will starve to death. opposite. everyone is fat now. [laughter] in the 1980s, people living in cities are going to have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution. that was from life magazine. air pollution will prevent sunlight from hitting the earth and the entire earth will go dark. all freshwater fish will suffocate. greg will like that. >> dana: did you do a google search and come up with a list? >> jesse: dana, how dare you. this was methodical.
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>> greg: johnny did the search. >> jesse: life inspected seat will be reduced to 42 -- life expectancy would be reduced to 52 the world will be 11 degrees colder by the year 2,000. >> juan: if a diet, i am going to come back and haunt you. everyone is laughing but you know republicans have zero ideas about human climate change. they say the democrats, over the green new deal. terrible. >> jesse: should we have -- >> juan: they are vacant. >> greg: pro-nuclear. >> juan: republicans tend to agree there is climate change, not necessarily human caused, as the u.n. report suggests but everyone says some things going on. something's not good. do the republicans have any ideas except making fun of -- >> dagen: here's an idea i've talked about. natural gas.
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we've got it coming out of the united states. private business. >> greg: reliable sources. >> dagen: reducing our emissions from power plants. we are leaving the world and emissions reductions. >> juan: the republicans do have some ideas and plans, policies. here's the thing. the president doesn't talk about them. when you have the bully pulpit. you can look at it. natural gas. all of the emissions are down, despite our economy going gangbusters. can we transfer it around the world when they want to have prosperity as well question like that's what we should be looking at and i would add 80% of young conservatives all think climate change is a very serious issue. it's in their top five. i think you should talk about it more because he has some good things to say. >> juan: i wish they had real ideas. >> greg: nuclear power. >> dagen: here's what the democrats won't tell you. they want to screw you by raising your energy crisis dramatically. they want your gasoline to be five or $10 a gallon but they
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>> greg: after legalizing pot, big vote in denver today. that's in colorado, dana. >> dana: thank you. >> greg: over whether to decriminalize magic mushrooms. if it passes, the city would become the first in the u.s. to decriminalize the hallucinogenic drug. critics of the proposal are calling it a serious problem and saying "denver is quickly becoming the illicit drug capital of the world. "i think everybody here has done magic mushrooms, right? >> dana: no. no. no. of course not. >> greg: all right, just checking. >> dana: i would be appalled to learn everyone else has. >> greg: i think everyone at this table but dana. >> dana: i'm terrified of drugs. >> greg: that's okay. it's good news, dagen. i don't you can criminalize a substance. you can criminalize behavior but if you criminalize a substance,
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it can have positive and negative effects which we are learning. magic mushrooms, stupid name, it's great for dealing with pts ptsd. >> dagen: micro dosing is hugely popular, expiring expero treat mental health problems. focus and attention deficit problems. more people like in silicon valley do it. joe rogan, i am a fan of his podcast. he is in favor of this. i however worry about the economy. so many people have switched to growing weed in california. you can't buy flowers if you're a florist, a mainstream florist. you have to buy them from overseas because everyone is growing marijuana. i suffer from panic attacks so i really don't need any hallucinogenic mushrooms. i am barely getting by as it is right now. i feel like somebody is standing on my chest right now.
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>> greg: juan, we have been demonizing substances. we know these have benefits. >> juan: i wouldn't want this for my kids. >> greg: it's modulated. >> juan: you can say that about cocaine and heroin. >> greg: i would. >> juan: i wouldn't. you and i disagree. >> greg: medicinally. >> juan: substances that we do need. alcohol, you save got to be over 21. i think you have to regulate it. i think you have to -- >> greg: that's fine. >> juan: put in-place protections to keep it out of kidd's hands. this is not alcohol, not marijuana. >> greg: because alcohol got there first. that's the only reason why we are loosed to -- used to alcohol because we got there first. legalize it, regulated, tax it, do whatever you want. >> jesse: i don't want it in new york. we have enough problems here.
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at the central michigan graduation. stephan who graduated said that that moment tops every other moment he has shared with his mom. >> dana: i love it. last thursday i was honored to be the emcee of the 57th annual new york celebratory scholarship ball, this gave kids a chance to go to school that are children of the marine corps. in the navy corpsman, of course. there were four young men men n there. of these young women were incredible, they all a big strong voices and bright futures because of this wonderful organization. thank you for having me. and on to greg. >> greg: all right, let's do this. ♪ animals are great ♪ animals are great ♪ animals are great ♪ animals are great a lot of questions about what does a wombat do when it has an itchy butt. they find a bicycle, right, gets up behind it and uses the tire
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to scratch his cute little butt. in tasmania, marie island. it actually exists. >> dana: that is great, greg. >> greg: that is why ♪ animals are great ♪ ♪ animals are great ♪ animals are great >> jesse: it's not going to be hard. all of the stars were at the met ball for a big gala, everybody got into a costume. the theme was camped, here is katy perry dressed as a chandelier, carty b, and is that a flow from and down? jared lehto held his own head, and harry styles, i don't know what you would call that, but very, very cute. >> greg: what about jesse watters? >> jesse: and ezra miller had a bunch of eyes on his head. and also on the show, watch me at the block. >> dana: we don't have time
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for you. >> dagen: two words willie porter, look it up. >> dana: turn on your dvrs, never missed an episode of "the five" ," "special report" s next. you will be happy that we are turning it over to bret. >> bret: thanks, dana, this is "special report," i am bret baier, trade negotiators are preparing for a crucial meeting thursday with the chinese delegation. that is still coming to the surprise of some despite president trump's threat of tough new tariffs. yesterday you saw the global markets take a major hit, well, they did today too, but unlike yesterday, wall street did not bounce back, most of the way back, the dow was down as much as 607 points before closing off 473 today. the nasdaq plunged 160. john roberts is here with me tonight on the north lawn with this top story. it is a

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