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show that is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness, and groupthink. dvr it if you know what how that works. in the meantime, good night from washington. taking up the baton from new york city, sean hannity. >> sean: i loved her laugh on the donny deutsch tape. >> tucker: so ridiculous. >> sean: you can't make this up. it writes itself every night. great stuff. that was a good laugh. welcome to "hannity," buckle up in subpoenas, threats of contempt, calls for impeachment of pretty much everyone and oh, yeah, obsessive hysteria over decades old tax documents that reveal nothing new and absolutely nothing illegal in the media is going nuts again. that's right, because mueller didn't come out the way they want to, let's move onto the next conspiracy theories and speaking of which, maybe hillary clinton colluded with china to release them, because she said china, i hope you're listening, release the tax returns, and are they are in
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"the new york times." i know facts are hard things for some people on the left and the media mob to understand. donald trump is still a billionaire, he still president. we all knew that what happened in new jersey in the casino business, it kind of went south. businesses fail every day. the trump organization is still an overwhelming american success story, but this kind of vitriol just represents what the democratic party has become. we are going to get that for the next two years. we need a special counsel. mueller, we need tax experts. this is a political cabal filled with sore losers that are now bordering on rage psychosis but couldn't accept the results of the 2016 election. now refusing to accept the results of mueller's investigation and now more unhinged than ever. so tonight after more than being
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cooperative -- a broad 22 month witch hunt, the president is rightly saying enough is enough and he's putting his foot down. he didn't say or use executive privilege one time. he allowed everybody in the white house to talk to the special counsel. 1.5 million documents. this week the white house did order, finally fighting back former counsel don began with a not to comply order as it relates to the congressional subpoena. after all, he was already interviewed by robert mueller for a whopping 30 hours. the guy is topped out. she has nothing left to say. meanwhile, under threat of contempt of congress the attorney general, barr, he's refusing to release the full unredacted version of the mueller report to congressional democrats because is actually following the law and because the law was passed by democrats. by the way, he was not required to release one single letter. no word, no phrase, nothing of the mueller report and the only
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reductions to the full report include oh, grand jury information, language pertaining to ongoing cases. investigatory sources and methods. can't let that out anyway. and according to press secretary sarah sanders, the white house might order the doj to lock robert mueller from testifying on the health. it's kind of disappointing. i've got a lot of questions. why did he appoint andrew weissmann and a band of democrats? let's see, people that withheld exculpatory evidence in the past and people that represented hillary clinton. nobody that donated to republicans. i like a few of those questions. why did robert mueller not touch hillary clinton's bought and paid for dirty russian dossier? i know he was busy. he was looking into violations. the bad loan applications. incomplete tax returns, taxi medallions. too busy to investigate hillary's bought and paid for
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russian lies and propaganda to impact the 2016 election, which was part of the mandate of what he was supposed to be doing, not taxi medallions or violations. watch this. >> should we take the president's tweet from this past week and as order to bill barr to not allow robert mueller to testify? >> i think that's a determination to be made at this point. that's the president's feeling on the matter and the reason is because we consider this as a case closed, as a finished process and again, i think most americans think that this is finished. >> sean: most americans do. sanders is right, it's over. it's only noise. two and a half years, democrats, media mob, the self obsessed super patriots like james comey and the deep state trying to rip this country apart over a hoax, a conspiracy theory with no evidence and only anonymous sources. senate majority leader mcconnell, put it this way,
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they were hoping for a national crisis for political gain. that is so patriotic with them, isn't it? take a look. >> it's been two weeks since attorney general william barr made the 450 page report public. this investigation went on for two years. it's finally over. they told everyone there had been a conspiracy between russia and the trump campaign. yet on this central question, the special counsel's finding is clear. case closed. case closed. >> sean: the senator is laying out facts. democrats could not be more detached from truth, reality. let's look at the speaker pelosi. she's not really speaker, she is speaker in name only. it's speaker ocasio-cortez. and then speaker in name only policy. take a look. >> senator mcconnell is reported to be saying it doesn't
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matter to hear from mueller, case closed. case closed. i don't think so. i don't think so. just as a matter of observation, that's just not a fact, at the is not closed. >> sean: she may want to check in with speaker ocasio-cortez, because the case is closed. she went on to declare that president trump is goading her into impeachment. that's what he's doing. you figured it out. the conspiracy theory, just when you think they're done with conspiracy theories and lying, they just pull it out of thin air. these people are amazing. they should write movies. take a look. >> he is goading us to impeach him. that's what he's doing. every single day is just like taunting, taunting, taunting, because he knows that it would be very divisive in the country, but he doesn't really care. if you wants to solidify his
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base. >> sean: for pelosi and her democratic colleagues in the media mob, it's not about in any way talking about her legislating or improving the lives of you, we the american people, bettering the economy, making the world a better place, more space, more secure, more prosperous, it's always about scoring cheap political points with the radical base. let's look at a new poll. 57% of democrats believe president trump is guilty of treason. they've been lied to every second, every minute, every hour of every day on every news channel except prime time here. so what do you expect? course they are going to believe that lie. according to multiple surveys the vast majority of these democrats -- americans, they are against impeachment. without a doubt the far left of socialist extreme, democratic socialist party, they are out of touch with truth and reality and can no longer accept basic fundamental truths.
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same reason why so many trump haters are refusing to admit a simple disturbing truth as well. the trump campaign was spied on. it happened. and tonight as byron york pointed out, if not a question of whether spying took place. the question is, how much spying and by how many people. even former national until director turned fake news cnn hack james clapper begrudgingly admits this simple truth. looks like spying to me. well, it was fine. take a look. >> there were protocols and standards for using an agent, and i'm sure that's the case here. >> so you're saying this was not done lately? >> it's never done lately. >> was at spying? >> i guess it meets the dictionary definition of surveillance or spying. >> sean: when our federal government sends an undercover
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agents, like a hot blonde bombshell that's really flirtatious and makes herself available to george papadopoulos for the purpose of extracting information out of him, yeah, that's called spying. when our own fbi uses a series of secret informants to set up meetings and then surveilled trump campaign aids and trap them to say things that they can't say because they don't know, that would be spying. and when carter page -- he is going join us in a moment, had his calls and emails tapped by our own federal government after they committed a massive fisa fraud with a bulk of information in the application being hillary's russian dossier, that would be spying too. what's worse, the basis for that spying was hillary and her dirty russian dossier, a document comey and others signed off on. you know what the top of a fisa more, i just learned this today, it says verified.
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it was never verified. it's unverifiable. this document, totally unverified. we now know filled with russian lies. "new york times" even suggesting all of it paid for by hillary made have been russian disinformation from the get-go and thanks to a brand-new breaking report from the hill's john solomon, we now have one more piece of evidence that the obama administration knew that the dossier was a fraudulent political hack job well before comey used it in the used it for the basis of the fisa application. according to john solomon, ten days before that first request in october of 2016, the author of that dossier, christopher steele, confessed to obama's deputy, assistant secretary of state, "his research was political and facing an election day deadline." state department memorialize this conversation in a written statement which was subsequently hidden from congressman devin nunes the course of his entire
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house until investigation. the shocking revelation is now shining light tonight on a series of texts between fbi officials page and peter strzok that referenced in efforts to speed up the release of the fisa request, likely we now use against part of donna carter page. going to get back to my monologue on this and hear from carter page in a minute but first, to break down all this new information investigative reporter is from the hill. he's been here from the get-go on exposing a lot of this. john solomon, wow. let's see, informant needed trump dirt before the election. if it was a deadline to hillary's lies. >> it was, and to date, this is the most direct evidence that the u.s. government knew before it admitted the fisa come before is the dossier supporting that fisa warned, that the man they were dealing with was on a political mission, not an intelligence mission. he told -- october 11th, 2016
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that his client, who he identified as someone recently hacked on the democratic national committee needed to get this information, was keen on getting this information out before election day. that was the clearest sign that this was a dirty trick. not the sort of things that a counterintelligence agent working for the fbi should be dealing in or trusting, for that matter. it's a very big revelation, here's a big concern. several of the committees i've talked to, senate judiciary, house tradition or from a house intelligence say they were never shown this document told of this contact and that deeply concerns them about the transparency that's been shown in this investigation and i can tell you, sean, there are more documents forthcoming later this week, additional documents that get into the political nature of the work and how much the government knew about it before they went to the court. >> sean: great investigative reporting. the first time this is direct evidence, more coming this week,
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but we did have closed-door testimony. bruce ohr, who told everybody in august 2016 it's unverified, hillary paid for it and he pays donald trump, is that correct? >> that's absolutely right. there's a written memo saying he had to get this information out before election day. what more obvious evidence do you need for the fbi to figure out that this was a dirty creek, not a regular counterintelligence operation. >> sean: investigative reporter with the hill, we will have you back as these developments warrant this week. joining us now, the person at the very center of solomon's reporting, the american that was targeted, his constitutional rights trampled on by the now infamous fisa warned, author of a new summary of the mueller report. a former trump campaign associate carter page. now we have the bruce ohr instance. he testified behind closed doors, he told everybody it was unverified, but it was the basis to take away our constitutional
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>> sean, i mean, it's exactly in john's article. he talks about the quote from congressman nunes. you know, about these -- all these redactions and the fact that things are basically being covered up. that has been exactly my experience as well. and, you know, i'm so thankful for, you know, what chairman graham, what congressman nunes, congressman collins have been doing for so long. as well as a small handful of journalists such as yourself and john -- >> sean: we have our ensemble team here. and we've been right. 99.9%. basically every newsroom in america failed on the job. >> the big issue of spying. to me, big deal, in terms of the word. >> sean: spying, they spy on us, we spy on them. i like our spies to be bigger than theirs.
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18 usc 2331. the attempt to overthrow the government, what they did to president trump, it was an attack on me, but it was really trying to overthrow -- >> sean: you were just the person they used to get into the trump campaign, all things trump campaign. >> i think they've -- you know, it's really been a big push -- >> sean: you need to sue. when we get those applications, you need to sue every single person. it's supposed to be verified. it's unverifiable because the author doesn't stand behind it. >> i actually -- i have a lawsuit. that is one -- one part of it. unfortunately the -- the counsel for the dnc. she said we should sanction him for not following the rules.
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now, she represents the dnc, which basically broke every rule in the book and all the constitutional rights. i'm calling on director wray -- >> sean: he's been too timid. he has been too timid protecting the bureaucracy. this is the premier law enforcement agency in the world. he needs to clean out the .1% bad actors and do it vigorously. >> he used the term today "by the book." which is the exact same words that then -- >> sean: comey. >> actually, no. chairman grassley and chairman graham, they sent a letter asking susan rice, who again my -- the lawyer that i'm up against was -- had the words "by the book, susan rice." it's -- >> sean: we're going to get to the bottom of it. thank you for being with us. shouldn't have happened to any american. can't happen again. >> absolutely.
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>> sean: let's not forget the first fisa request in the carter page, james comey signed that. he had mountains of evidence the dossier was biassed, unverified, piece of garbage, paid for by hillary. never verified. says on the top of the application, verified. even told president-elect trump, the 25-year fbi vet believes comey's flurry of public activity shows he is desperately trying to shape the narrative.
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but at the end of the day, truth is more important than any spin of jim comey. comey did not want trump to become president, hated him. it is this program's mission to hold all of these people accountable. james comey, tick-tock. you're one of the few democrats that have been out there saying something to your party that this is not going to end well for you.
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this is really bad, what you've engaged in here. but they keep doubling down. why? >> well, i've been trying to say, hey, talk about health care. the mueller report's out. there was no trump-russia collusion. if you went back and read the dossier, you would laugh. if you know it was paid for by the dnc, you would laugh. >> sean: it is funny when you read it. >> it's incredible. you read the texts, one, two, three -- >> sean: how did 99% of america's media -- the mob, i call them -- and democrats, they put all their faith and hope -- they didn't think trump would win and they didn't think mueller report would come back this way. >> they never thought mueller would come back this way, and it's unbelievable. how did we spend two years -- once you uncovered the information that these folks were biased, this thing was paid for by a political campaign, they created a massive echo chamber inside our government with false information. this should never happen. >> they also rigged the investigation into hillary.
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the attorney general stated very clearly, sara carter, we're going back to square one. this is where we'll get the fisa applications, gang of eight, 302s, we'll examine how they rigged -- even page and strzok were laughing and making fun of the fact that it was a rigged investigation. >> right. >> sean: they put it right in the attorney general's office at the time, loretta lynch. she's got problems. >> that's right, sean. now they need to get all of the documents -- john's recent story actually revealed is that they knew prior to getting the fisa, right, that they were -- that they were -- that they were going after -- this was a political opportunity for christopher steele. those in the dnc and the hillary clinton campaign. the fbi was utilizing disinformation from the russians, lying to the fisa courts so that they could spy on carter page. and now we have to ask ourselves
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this: how many more people within the trump sphere were also -- were also spied on or also utilized to spy on members of the trump campaign. i think this is what devin nunes wants to find out. this is what senator grassley as well as senator graham are looking into. how many people within that sphere were actually utilized? because every day we find more and more information that points in that direction. that, our -- >> sean: knowing just what we know -- knowing just what we know does exist, and that is coming out, to what extent will the conscience of the american people in your view be shocked? >> they will be extraordinarily shocked. this is going to be an avalanche of information. people will be indicted because of this. i think that, you know, we could see the intensity with attorney general william barr during his testimony. he would not be that intense, he would not be that adamant if he
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didn't know something more. >> sean: agreed. >> i believe there are ongoing investigations. the first one we have to see is michael horowitz -- >> sean: that's coming. tick-tock. last question for you, mark penn. every day between now and election day 2020, your party -- i say that respectfully -- you are not your party. they focus on this, they stay on this, they obsess on impeachment. let's get his tax returns. we all knew atlantic city was a dump and everybody lost money. trump's still a billionaire. how bad does it hurt them? >> if they focus on this, it's not a winning issue. then trump will win on the economy. they have to focus on health care -- hey, it's the economy if he can make it the economy and keep it going. we'll see if he gets through this china tariff thing. but i say to democrats, get off impeachment, get on the issues. >> sean: good luck with that. i don't think they're listening.
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♪ >> sean: it's already been a really bad week for the deep state. here to talk about the latest developments and help break it all down, lindsay graham. you know, i had youon on -- although when you don't avoid the show by traveling all over the world and you make yourself available. this is your first job, i don't understand why you say no. >> my bad. >> sean: agree. steele's stunning pre-fisa confessions, this new report and the closed door testimony where we know bruce orr under oath said, i told everybody inn augut of 2016, it's an unverified
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document -- the dossier-- and steele hates trump and hillary paid for it. you know, as i do, that it's unverified, but does it not say at the top of a fisa warrant, verified? >> well, it's supposed to be. you're supposed to say under oath to the court that the document i'm presenting to you is accurate. that's the whole point of getting a warrant. you got to have reliable information. but why is this so important? we know in august of 2016, ohr tells the fbi senior leadership, you got to watch this steelead guy, he's out to get trump. now what do we know? that christopher steele went to the department of state on october the 11th to try to get the department of state to release the dossier to the public for political reasons. they tell the fbi, this is ten days before they get the first warrant application verified. so ten days before they applied
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for the fisa warrant, they were told in august that steele's out to get trump. in october, steele goes to the state department trying to get them to release it to the public for a political reason. >> sean: you know, you can't even make this up. >> yeah. >> sean: i understand there is a florida case and we might get information from steele, but we do know in the interrogatory where he was under the threat of perjury, he actually said i have no idea if any of this is true, 50/50 at best. doesn't that then render the dossier, the dirty russian dossier unverifiable? >> why is the support and? we should all be concerned if our government is getting a warrant against an american citizen what do we know? without accurate information. without the dossier, the warrant would not have been issued. people in charge tell us that. we know that the author of the dossier was on the payroll of the democratic party.
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he was not a reliable informant for the fbi. he was trying to destroy trumpc because he was paid by the democrats to take trump down. they should have known all offo this before they applied for the warrant. here's what needs to happen. somebody needs to go to the fisa court and tell them that the fbi had plenty of notice that this guy was on the payroll of the democratic party and he was out to get -- >> sean: senator, i'm not that smart. would that be a conspiracy tout commit fraud on a fisa court? where i grew up in new york, i know down in south carolina where you grew up, you were living in a bar, i was working in a bar until 4:30. we have similar backgrounds. where i grew up, you say yes, sir, no, sir, yes, sir, your honor, no your honor, and if you lie to the judge, it's not going to work out well in the end. >> here's the question: how could you not know that steele should be looked at really hard, given what ohr said, and given
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his actions on october 11th? you got to remember, steele went to the state department -- i don't know why he went to the state department -- for the express purpose of having the dossier released before the election. >> sean: and that was memorialized, we now know, that is the interesting part. we have more e-mails coming.wa >> before the warrant. >> sean: before the warrant. l just like ohr said. >> yeah. >> sean: let me go to robert mueller for a second. you said you don't care whether or not he testifies, that's up to him. trump may stop it. i don't know if i want that. i want to know when did he know there was no conspiracy with the itmp campaign and russia as relates to collusion of any kind. when did he know that? why did he hire only democrats and even hillary's attorney and one attorney known for withholding exculpatory evidence and having a really bad track record and failing, and why was he not concerned about hillary's dirty russian dossier when hece had plenty of time to look into
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medallions and laws and taxes, i would think the russian dossier would have been important to robert mueller. what do i know? >> somebody needs to look at this like mueller looked at trump. here's the question, why would the fbi classify this exchange between steele and the state department and the fbi april of this year? >> sean: uh-huh. wow. now, this is pretty interesting. >> they classified -- >> sean: will you pledge to the american people tonight, senator? as the attorney general told you, i thought you had the best line of questioningpl last week, that it's important if hillary's investigation into criminal activity was rigged, whether or not they tried to rig a presidential election, whether a fraud was committed against the fisa court, whether there was leaking of intel, whether the intel community was weaponized against the american people and whether or not they tried to get the president of the united states with opposition party candidate lies to unseat a duly elected president, are all those
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issues on the table? >> you better believe it. for attorney general barr and myself, we've got to get to the bottom of it and make sure it never happens again. >> sean: is the mueller issue dead now? >> case closed. >> sean: thank you, senator. you're dismissed. >> thank you. >> sean: thank you for being with us. coming up, 2020 candidate, yes, uncle pete, mayor pete, he says he doesn't think god is a republican. wow, how insightful. dan bongino, geraldo are next. and you are going to meet the american servicemen that was pardoned by the president yesterday in an exclusive interview. ♪ my body is truly powerful. i have the power to lower my blood sugar and a1c. because i can still make my own insulin. and trulicity activates my body to release it like it's supposed to. trulicity is for people with type 2 diabetes. it's not insulin. i take it once a week. it starts acting in my body from the first dose. trulicity isn't for people with type 1 diabetes
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socialist democrats are resorting to baseless smears of president trump and the gop. every two and four years. racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, islamophobic, they want dirty air, water, kill children and throw granny over llthe cliff. get used to that.ws just yesterday, crazy uncle joe thing we want to bring back the old jim crow laws, using the same lines from the old clinton playbook. in the "new york times," they're taking notice, writing a new piece. 2020 biden has given democrats a little 2016 clinton flashbacks. especially as biden is already running scared, like having to walk back his comments on china, among a host of other issues, including his treatment of anita hill., all of this could create a huge path way for new radical democrats like media darling mayor pete, who is ramping up attacks on christian values and conservatives.
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sounds a little bit like irredeemable, deplorable, smelly walmart people, cling to their god, guns, bible, and religion. i think i've heard this movie before. >> also spend a fair amount of time talking about your faith. >> yes. >> why? >> it's important to me. i think it's also important that we stop seeing religion used as a cudgel. as if god belonged to a political party. if he did, i can't imagine he sent the president to the white house. >> sean: nl mayor pete buttigieg is not stopping there, telling supporters yesterday that america was never all that great to begin with. let's see, my father fought four years in the pacific in world war ii. the america that beat back fascism, communism, nazism, imperial japan, taken the brunt of the fight of radical islamists that wanted to destroy us on 9/11, 2001. nothing great about any of that,
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really? take a look. >> the solutions i believe are going to come from our communities, communities like the one where i grew up, which is an industrial midwestern city that is exactly the kind of place that our current president targeted with a message saying we could find greatness by stopping the clock and turningay it back, and making america great again, when that past that he is promising to return us to was never as great as advertised, especially for marginalized americans, and there's no going back anyway. >> sean: here with reaction, fox news contributor dan bongino. fox news correspondent at large, geraldo rivera. geraldo, i'll take the bait. biden-obama, 13 million more americans on food stamp, a million more in poverty. worst recovery since the '40s. post homeownership rate in 51 years, and took on more debt
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than every president combined. now, we have record low unemployment for everybody. i think i'll take trump's record. i'm just betting.yb >> first, i think mayor pete is totally off the mark, sean. i believe that god is a reflection of each of us, of all of us. i tend to think of god as a progressive republican, probably part jewish, kind of cute, mustache. that was a joke. [ laughter ] thank you for the delayed laugh. in terms of make america great again, i think pete is guilty of being very, very gloomy there. to me, make america great again harkens to the time when america didn't have social media and divisive cable news shows and everybody was in it together and we all thought anybody could be anything they wanted. it was as feeling of togetherness, america as a unit, all of us pulling together in the same direction.
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that, i think, is what i think donald trump meant when he coined the phrase "make american great again." he didn't mean going back to slavery or wiping out native americans or jim crowe. he meant the america of great possibilities. >> sean: dan, we have record low unemployment. we've got a booming economy. europe is .3 gdp growth in the last two quarters combined. 0.3%. we are 3.2 with a government shutdown. 1.7 million more jobs than we have americans on, right now,f unemployment. that's a lot of jobs. they're begging people in prison, when are you getting out? we need you. >> yeah, sean. and the latest economic numbers show that the poorest americans, the bottom tenth percentile, their wages grew at double the rate of the richest americans. so the democrats being in it for the little guy is a scam, like
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it's always been. aren't you embarrassed by your party ify you're a democrat rigt now? i mean it. think about what we'd seen in just the last year from the hapless l democrats dissent into ideological madness. we have seen infanticide, in some cases, late-term abortion in many cases. we've seen we've seen kamala harris and bernie sanders advocate for terrorists boating from prison. we've seen julian castro support a 90% tax rate. elizabeth warren suggesting a takeover of corporate boardrooms, and bernie sanders suggesting that your private insurance plan you get from your employer and should thrown in the garbage can so people like bernie can manage your health care. ladies and gentlemen, their words, not mine. that's your democratic party p. i hope you're proud. >> sean: well said. geraldo, does this get any traction? new green deal, impeachment, impeach barr, hate trump, does it get them anywhere? >> first of all, i hope mueller
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testifies. because i would love to cross-examine him about when he suspected -- >> sean: john dowd said a year provider. >> -- i want to know and why he didn't tell the president of the united states. one more thing about mayor pete. he's an articulate guy, but he is desperate to get the african-american vote. he has zero african-american support. he knows south carolina is up after iowa and new hampshire. he knows he needs the african-american vote to get the democratic primary. he's desperate, he's flailing around. he's trying to redefine himself as the guy who didn't fire, in 2007, the black police chief of south bend, indiana, which he did. that's the deficit he's trying to overcome. >> sean: thank you both, as always. president trump just pardoned ar
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♪ >> sean: yesterday, president trump, he pardoned michael behenna who was convicted in 2009 of killing a suspected al qaeda terrorist in iraq. behenna received 25 years in prison for unpremeditated murder in a combat zone. there were concerns about how the trial "address to the self-defense claim." in announcing the pardon, white house press secretary sarah sanders mentioned broad support from
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behenna, saying "from the military, oklahoma elected officials, the public." here to tell his story in his own words, and react to today's news come along with his parents, vickie and scott. good to see you all. let me start, if you don't mind, you know, you were, michael, you wanted to serve your country, correct? >> that's correct. >> sean: and you found yourself in a situation where you were managing a 17-man platoon. and an ied went off and killed four people, two of them yours. >> that's correct. >> sean: and how many were injured? >> there was five injured. >> sean: five people injured, two lost their lives, two others lost their lives. you read the intelligence, which was your job, and you heard about an al qaeda operative named ali mansoor, correct? >> that's correct. >> sean: and you work for the shake and brought him into
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custody, correct? >> yes. >> sean: and mansoor was then ordered released by the army. your commander told you to transport the guy home, right? >> yes. >> sean: you did a field interrogation of mr. mansoor, right?gh >> i did. >> sean: in the process of that, even with an interpreter with you during the interrogation, mansoor tried to get your weapon. >> that's right. >> sean: and you, fearing for your life, killed him. >> that's right. >> sean: okay. the odds are pretty high that he was the al qaeda explosive deliverer? >> yes. >> sean: so now prosecutors, as i understand it during your court martial, they had exculpatory evidence and they built -- they never told your defense lawyers they hired a forensic expert. tell us what the forensic expert found, and why did he not testify? >> that forensic expert was us
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actually sitting in trial during my testimony. and he heard -- he heard my side of the story for the first time. after he heard my -- my story, he went back to the prosecutorss and did a demonstration to them in the room and told them -- or he -- i'm sorry. let me back up. once i told my story, he had --t he had told the prosecutors, that's exactly what i told you yesterday. because he had did aec demonstration for the prosecution team the day before, the day before he heard my testimony. >> sean: so he, the prosecution hires a forensic expert who confirms your story. >> yes. >> sean: they don't tell your defense attorney. this is how we treat american heros? and then they send him home and he doesn't testify. why would -- why would we send brave men and women -- i got to believe, vicky and scott, you send your son and he's willing to risk his life for hise, country, and he has to defend himself.
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now we're going to second guess his decision. we have exculpatory evidence and they withheld it? how does that make a mother and father feel? >> well, i -- i can just tell you from my perspective, being a federal prosecutor for over 25 t years, it was something i'd never witnessed before. it was a trial where the forensic evidence was not introduced by the prosecution, but by the defense. >> sean: it was withheld on purpose, ma'am. with all due respect, i'm going to be a little more blunt. they knew it. they didn't bring it up. >> well, they definitely should have -- they have an ethical and constitutional responsibility to turn that evidence over once their forensic expert says he doesn't believe their theory of an execution is accurate. >> sean: and scott, as the father of michael, an american hero, i got to imagine your son in prison for five years for something he was unjustly convicted of, i bet you have real anger issues with the
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people that did that because i know as a father, i would. >> it's hard, sean. you know, five years happens very slowly in a prison. we were fortunate to visit him very often, which helped quite extensively, but you're right. we were initially very angry. you focus your attention on helping him. that's what we've tried to do for all these years with all the support, you know, you mentioned a.g. hunter and president trump finally coming through. this is amazing day. exciting day. >> sean: michael, you lost five years of your life. you defended your country honorably.y. the president did this at the request of 37 generals, admirals, politicians inin oklahoma where you're from. president called you yesterday. how did this all feel? >> it was -- it was totally unexpected.
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you know, i want to -- i want to personally thank president trump. and this is something he didn't have to do. i'm just grateful that he even considered my pardon petition. it was one of the happiest moments of my life. >> sean: i agree. and i hope that every singlere case that we had, these rules of engagement, these guys -- i want every case reviewed, every single case. welcome home, soldier. thank you for serving your country. >> thank you. >> sean: mom and dad, you guys have an unbelievable son and what loving parents you are. i'm glad it worked out right. sorry you went through all that. we owe you better as a country. straight ahead. sorry
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engagement we second-guess them from the comfort of our living room or some office in d.c.? that has got to stop. anyway, we will never be the destroy-trump media mob. let not your hearts be troubled and laura ingraham in houston tonight, laura. >> laura: hannity, i was watching you and they cannot h drop their barr obsession. we have to call it the barr crawl or something, all new barr scene for them. i mean, it is, i was actually laughing but i'm crying what's happening at the border but i'm laughing at their barr crawl okay? >> sean: i like the name, but i will tell you this. this is pretty entertaining. they will never stop. by the way, donald trump still is a billionaire and has a 757. a lot of big buildings. a lot of economic success. i'm sorry, atlantic city or anybody.y. well, big breaking news. >> laura: again, anything to avoid talking about how to
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