for now we are done. we'll be back tomorrow. >> bill: we will see you then. >> julie: "outnumbered" starts now. think you're watching. >> harris: we continue with the breaking news on fox right now, we are awaiting the democrat-led house judiciary committee to go to hold attorney general william barr in contempt of congress. adding to the drama today, the white house has announced that it is asserting executive privilege over all previously redacted portions of the special counselor parts. you are watching "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, melissa francis. fox news contributor, lisa boothe. former ohio senate democratic minority leader, capri cafaro. and in the center seat, right on time every time he shows up, former arkansas governor and fox news contributor mike huckabee is with us. house democrats are moving ahead with their push to hold attorney general barr in contempt of congress. we are expecting the vote to come at any moment. last night the justice department made clear that they will not turn over the entire

unredacted mueller report to congress. then today the white house going further than that, with white house press secretary sarah sanders saying "feast of the term chairman nadler's blatant abuse of power and of the attorney general's request, the president has no oa protective assertion of executive privilege." highlights now from the spirited hearing so far. >> the trump administration has taken obstruction of congress to new heights. no person, not the attorney general, not the president, can be permitted to be above the law. >> democrats are afraid of what the attorney general will find when he completes his own review of fisa abuses of the justice department. democrats are resolved to neutralize bill barr by attacking him in the office and his integrity and career. >> harris: governor, as we watch this we see some legal and some politics. what do you make of it all? >> gov. huckabee: it's mostly feeder, let's face it. this is not a serious discussion of the issue.

this is all pontificating, trying to get their points out. the best thing they can do is turn the cameras off. for that matter, turn the lights off. put only the members of congress in the room and say, "you guys talk about this." but get the cameras and microphones out of there. the reason this goes on like this, and it produces nothing but extraordinary partisan rank or, is because nobody in that room is serious about resolving the issue. they are serious about trying to present their side, make their side look good. make the other side look bad. it's a waste of time and money. >> harris: you know what's interesting, capri, we were looking seconds ago. the toggle might be between the group and eric swalwell. who is running for president. >> gov. huckabee: who isn't running for president? >> harris: i'm not! >> gov. huckabee: in me, neve. [laughter] >> harris: when you see the elevation of drama , you can't miss it when you got a 2020 president candidate in

the center. >> capri: be seen so much in the senate judiciary committee as well, all of their hearings. because there are so many members of the senate running for president as well. i am very frustrated by this process. we've heard from a number of the members of the committee on the democratic side of the mueller report essentially leaves the issue of obstruction in the hands of congress. congress has a constitutional oversight duty, in coequal branches of government. that's accurate. what you can do your job without having a show like this, by the swamp for the swamp. this brings up your point, governor. if you want to bring up these issues or have a conversation with robert mueller -- which i know president trump now is saying he doesn't want him to testify -- do it behind closed doors. right now all the back-and-forth on both sides is further eroding what is already a pretty precarious belief in their institutions. >> harris: one of my guests yesterday, lisa, point out how many more days we were before he got to this point with eric holder, and i we are only

about 19 days or so getting to the contempt of congress point with democrats and william barr. and how that length of time showed good faith. that maybe they could go back and forth. but a shortness of time shows politics. what do you make of it? >> lisa: of course there is politics. there is no good faith here on behalf of the democrats. personally, i think this is more about undermining attorney general barr as he looks into the origins of the russian investigation. also on the heels of what we knew was coming, which is the inspector general report on potential fisa abuse. an information regarding the origins of the russian investigation. that's what i think this is about for democrats. this entire thing has been about theater. you had democrats tell us there is collusion when they have probably known all along there was no collusion. ultimately mueller was going to -- >> harris: but they can read 99% of it unredacted in a scif. up until this morning there was no record of any democrat crawling into that area and actually reading. i do want to get to this because it makes your point.

congressman jim jordan was talking about the democrats and they are more singular focus on destroying bill barr. watch. >> i think it's more about trying to destroy bill barr. democrats are nervous he's going to get to the bottom of everything. he is going to find out how and why this investigation started in the first place. >> harris: hmm. melissa, they could saunter down. they don't even have to run. if they're in a hurry to get details, they could saunter. make it easy. get into that scif and read 99%. then they could come back out and talk about that grand jury testimony, which no one has seen except for barr and mueller. they could, as congress and the majority, make a change in the law in terms of including that in the special counsel report. >> melissa: they could do those things, but it isn't what they are up to right now. the problem with this is the sort of middle ground doesn't satisfy anybody. those who hate president trump would like them to get on with impeachment.

they look like cowards who won't step up to the plate, and actually go for impeachment. to decide that, they look like they are bullying president trump and distracting them as the company economy ger and really they should be working on health care. so nobody satisfied by this middle ground. the only damage themselves. they're trying to make this photo impeachment, but impeachment light doesn't work. >> gov. huckabee: it doesn't work because they want to impeach him. it's going nowhere in the senate because they don't even have enough votes to get it -- >> melissa: but at least if they tried they could tell their constituents, "we did it." >> capri: but nancy pelosi has put the kibosh on that. >> gov. huckabee: and the reason she did is that she knows will backfire. the lowest numbers was a leak after the impeachment, for bill clinton pay less not forget that. the american people want to elect a president, they don't want congress throwing them in and out of office. if the result here is to

impeach, to overturn the results of the election, they're going to hand it donald trump the next four years of the presidency. ring it on. >> lisa: he didn't have to release their report to the public, which he did pay less than 10% of it was rejected. he is offered -- as harris pointed out, he offered the six house and senate democrats to be able to go look at the lesser redacted version of the report. 90.5% of the report. they all declined. if you want to see if this is about politics or not, look at that point alone. >> harris: think about that for second, lisa. you and i've talked about this. so you get the report in for interview. it was a lot to kind of go through. but when you look at it, you could then make -- if you went down to that scif you could say, "you know what? we need an exception to grand jury. let's see how that sentence splits. underneath that link it up sharply, the answer lies there."

you can make a compelling argument. but if you don't read it you can't do that. >> capri: this is breaking news to me. i didn't know until you set it two seconds ago that no one has gone down they do read the lesser-redacted version. >> harris: newly unredacted. the three again, back to being disappointed. there are five exceptions to the 60 grand jury reductions? >> harris: you could say, "this line right here could further the cause." the three if you don't do the work to identify where you might be able to invoke those 6e -- >> harris: it's a hollow argument. >> capri: that's ridiculous. we one let's talk about contempt of congress for a second. this happened with eric holder but i don't member anything happening. with fast and furious. why do they do it? >> gov. huckabee: its leader, i will go back to the point i started with. it's show. it's annoying to make political points. it has nothing to do with making a legal point or a constitutional point. or a legislative point. it's all about just trying to stick it to the other side. it didn't work against holder. at least they waited 450 days

and pretended that it really mattered. in this case -- >> melissa: definitely. >> capri: itself like whitewashing. beto don't ask me to he said he would address the code hasn't. one, that we didn't read this. number two, that we are asking for something illegal. it is illegal that they want the whole unredacted thing. >> harris: so why do you need barr to advocate for you to go to a judge if -- >> melissa: taken to court, and he didn't address the second part. >> harris: you can't. >> melissa: maybe he thinks it's a waste of time until he is the whole thing. >> harris: be for professional or personal reasons, that -- >> lisa: one thing abundantly clear, at least for me, is how well versed in all this attorney general barr's. it's obviously not as for first rodeo. he's been attorney general before. you can tell much he's familiar with the law, that he knows this job, that he does need it, mind

you. just watching his press conference. testifying for the senate committee as well. this is a guy who doesn't need this job. he's not going to capitulate to the democrat demands. i think that's the beauty about nominating attorney general barr, just with that. >> harris: if you are chairman nadler and you look at this executive privilege that the white house just rolled out today, you might wonder what he's thinking. "well, the dnc has already reacted. here's what they say. "the term administration is so scared of being held accountable to the american people that they have turned to stonewalling and obstruction. this is about more than just seeking the truth. it's about defending the constitution, and congress' duty to provide oversight as a coequal branch of government." capri, we can't get into nadler's head right now because he's busy in the hearing, but i would ask as a follow-up to that -- with executive privilege wave -- not weaves, but executed. what does that mean for the goal

of getting all the information? after 30 hours of testimony. what are you hoping to get? what do you think you are missing? >> lisa: this is why they shouldn't play games what did they expect? what was going to happen is if you play games like this, trying to hold people like attorney general barr and contempt, we all know donald trump is a counterpunch. the executive privilege move is a counterpunch she what he sees as the chairman of the judiciary committee playing games. if they actually were willing to have a real dialogue, maybe they would be able to get some of the information that they were seeking to actually get. they do have -- and the dnc and democrats, they are doing this refrain, "we have constitutional authority for oversight." that is true. but you can execute it, like i said before, without playing these games if you're serious. >> melissa: can ask the governor? apparently during one portion of it jerry nadler did address it, "why don't you do go in the scif

and root?" he said there's no point if you can't discuss it with his colleagues and council. it has a right to see things that they don't. does not jive with you? >> gov. huckabee: no. his colleagues can go down there and see it as well. >> capri: i don't think they can. >> harris: there is a list of people. >> lisa: the attorney general so they could take notes. >> harris: wright, limited people, our producers telling us. it's more than just him. >> melissa: you would at least know what you are going after. >> harris: yeah, you cannot make the argument -- >> lisa: i would die of curiosity. spew and he don't point to it and say, if that were not redacted then we would see the e thought on this. you don't even know that if you haven't read it. you don't know what the omissions are pointing to if you haven't read the context. >> gov. huckabee: there's not enough curiosity on his part to go down and take a look. then he can say, "there is stuff in here we all need to see." he hasn't done that. >> capri: it hurts credibility. >> harris: is it lack of

curiosity or plausible deniability? i think it's a fair question. >> gov. huckabee: in light of this thing where the congress and democrats are saying, "we are shredding the constitution," he says that we are not agreed to release this. we are not seeing the destruction of the constitution, it's the protection and the separation of powers. the branches and protecting each other, which is what they're supposed to do. the presidency -- it's not about donald trump, it's the office of the presidency and that branch of government, the executive. congress has an oversight responsibility. but it ought to be genuine oversight. it ought not to be some type of inquisition. they need to understand, there are separate roles. it is the constitution which is messy at times. but thank god we have it. it will ultimately play out in the third branch of government, the judicial, who will decide who gets to see what. >> harris: on the left of your screen now -- we are still monitoring this with our teams and watching this. that is congressman ted lieu.

having talked with him recently -- and i know you watched part of that interview, thank you for doing that -- you know he is one of those who will talk easily about impeachment. right? you ask about why we are on this journey, part of it is because some democrats believe and have even believed before the mueller report that there were things they didn't like about this president or wanted to deal with, with the letter i word, "impeachment." >> melissa: that's what it is ironic by the speech is very hearing today. they are talking by the president he was so corrupt, obstructing more than any president in the history of time, and if you really believe that you should be moving forward with impeachment. you should have done that already if you truly believe that. >> harris: we will move on. of course we are watching this hearing, and when the panel begins its vote on contempt of congress we will bring that to you live. meanwhile, the president is going after "the new york times" report on his tax records from the 1980s and early '90s. they reportedly show he lost more than $1 billion in a

decade. so much, he rarely paid federal income tax. whether this moves the needle, or if voters will see it as old news. the debate you don't want to miss. stay with us. ♪

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real estate mogul had more than a billion dollars in business losses beginning in the mid-1980s to the mid-'90s. the paper adding, "while the times did not obtain the president's actual tax records or returns, it receives the information contained in the returns from someone who had legal access to it." the president tweeting, "real estate developers in the 1980s and 1990s, more than 30 years ago, were entitled to massive write-offs and depreciation that would, if one was actively building, show losses and tax losses in almost all cases." additionally, the very old information put out as a highly inaccurate fake news hit job. but 2020 democratic presidential contender amy cole bishara sees a different look. tweeting, "seems clear than ever we need to see president trump's full tax returns. ." and the report comes as steven mnuchin's bars of the democratic chair of the house ways and

means over the release of the president's more recent tax returns. he's refusing to hand them over, the democrats threatening to take this to the courts. governor, i will ask you -- i read this article. to me there is nothing new, but i have been in financial news for a long time so i understand that to a lot of people this could have been new information. this is what has informed my opinion for a long time that the president was not necessarily a great real estate developer, that his real genius came from marketing. when he decided to license out his name and the trump brand as opposed to building, that's what made him a great presidential candidate. this is just an example of how ridiculous our tax code is. >> gov. huckabee: tax code is ridiculous. you want to scrap it, start over. do a fair tax, would you be a much better approach. but that's for another time. the bottom line is americans don't care about his tax returns from 30 years ago. they care about theirs. if you can make their taxes better, which he has, and he has

provided more money in their paychecks with the tax cuts including people at the bottom, they care about that. what he paid in taxes and what he did with real estate deals in the '80s, they could care less about. if the democrats think this is their best weapon, let's go ahead and plan on getting tickets to the inauguration. >> capri: i think these are apples and oranges predecision from 30 years ago, i agree nobody cares. there was the art of the deal and then the art of the comeback. if you want to take net operating losses and depreciation on real estate stuff -- in particular in the late '80s and early '90s when there was a commercial real estate slump and a lot of people went -- as a separate situation, nobody cares. the more recent tax returns, there's an argument to be made that they have some relevance, particularly for those concerned about the discussions around the emoluments clause. but who cares what he did 30 years ago? it makes people look petty. i think there are two separate issues. if you want a conversation about recent tax returns, that's one thing. to talk about this from the

'90s end '80s is irrelevant. >> gov. huckabee: if they are serious about wanting his tax returns, pass a law that you have to show them. but they're not doing it. >> capri: some states are doing that, like washington state. >> gov. huckabee: it shouldn't be state-by-state, due to the federal level. here's the deal -- e-file esteemed of interest to be a candidate, much less an office holder or any federal appointee, it's frankly far more revealing. why does donald trump -- let me ask, does anybody on this couch do their own taxes? >> harris: no. >> gov. huckabee: why do we not? >> melissa: too complicated. >> gov. huckabee: here's my point -- we don't even understand our taxes. to think donald trump would understand the complexity of his customer could of course not. that's why you hire it out. >> harris: i've in sourced everything else, have to outsource something. parenting picks up all my time. [laughs] >> melissa: this is a good point. "the new york times" isn't alleging he did everything don't like anything illegal as far as my reading of the article. >> harris: no, he is the system before him.

>> melissa: once again, congress isn't doing its job. >> lisa: he has also bragged about it. if you recall the 26 debates, he bragged about not paying -- >> harris: can i ask you a question, though? >> lisa: he said he made it smart. also that some of his business is filed for chapter 11. >> harris: i get all that. here's where both sides come together. why not just release them? >> gov. huckabee: i will tell you why. i did release mine as a candidate. the most thing i ever did. >> harris: why? >> gov. huckabee: all you are doing is handing your opponents hundreds of pages -- in his case, thousands of pages, out of context, to be lifted out in political opposition. then he spends all his time trying to respond to nitpicking questions about his tax returns. >> harris: would it behoove the president to say exactly what you just said? >> gov. huckabee: i think he pretty much has. >> harris: rather than "i'm under on it, parentally under audit?" i just wonder, you could shut it down.

you obviously have expanse with this. >> gov. huckabee: it was a disaster. i didn't have much to show. but i'm telling you, my opponent didn't, i did, and i pay dearly for it. i would never do it again. i've sent to the president, don't do it. don't do it. >> lisa: two quick points to the pettiness. i think it looks petty on behalf of the media in an attempt to hunt him him harm him versus transference e. second point, for democrats to try and weaponized, if you don't have a business person -- he's more of a successful business person that anyone whose ultimate going to be the democratic nominee. i don't think democrats are going to build -- >> melissa: there will be something in there trade >> capri: for somebody in real estate, it only gives you one little sliver of their portfolio. because it's all divided up. >> melissa: but if you look at the whole thing, it's going to be thousands of pages. it's going to tell you about this llc in this company

overhear. it just creates a never-ending treasure hunt. >> gov. huckabee: that's not about transparency. if it were, i could agree with it. but it isn't. it's about a minefield that you have created for yourself by releasing something that the law doesn't require. if congress wants to require it, they can do it. that's their job. >> harris: so why do you think they haven't done that? >> gov. huckabee: richard newcomb of the democrat begging for it, he hasn't released his tax returns. is that not a democracy? he thinks it's important to be transparent, okay congressman neil, really serious. >> harris: your perspective on this is really limiting. >> gov. huckabee: i've been there. >> harris: they are making the argument, when you say he's the best marketer, why not just get out there -- i think it's fascinating what you said to us today. about what can happen. life out of context. >> melissa: a legal victory for the president, a federal court ruling in favor of a

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munich -- we will bring it to. it's been very so far. the reaction to a sweeping new immigration proposal out of the trump administration. senator g.o.p. senators herdede white house. they are telling reporters it seeks increased border security and a transition to a marriott-based immigration system. this comes as the white house rolls out new guidelines for asylum officers, directing them to take a more skeptical approach while interviewing migrants. its latest measure focusing on the legal loopholes. senator martha mcsally was at the meeting and said this. >> we had a really good conversation about modernizing our legal immigration system as well. something i've been working on for a long time. as we speak, our city of yuma, arizona, had declared a state of emergency. we have an unsustainable crisis happening at our border. we need democrats and republicans to work together to close these loopholes now. this should be a unifying issue. border security used to be

unifying, and i think there is a lot of pressure on the democrats, as there should be, that they need to stop obstructing. this isn't a game in arizona. it's a public safety issue. it's a national security issue. >> harris: house budget committee chairman john yarmuth, however, not accessing support for the proposal, saying this -- "they're just trying to change the words. immigration, to them, is just about the wall." meanwhile, the ninth circuit granting the request to send asylum seekers back to mexico while they wait out-of-court proceedings. the court order reversed the decision by san francisco judge that would have blocked the policy giving president trump a temporary victory on immigratio immigration. governor, the situation got worse in the last ten days as we had north of 30,000 illegals crossing our border. the border patrol again saying the numbers are unsustainable. the centers are full, so on and so forth. >> gov. huckabee: it is the crisis, and even the democrats don't say it's manufactured anymore.

they had to quit saying that. anybody with an iq above broccoli can now see that we've got a serious crisis going down at the border with more people then we can absorb and more people than we can process. the democrats don't seem to have any interest in bringing some national solution. the question is, would you be do question agree of 1% honduras and guatemala and population crossing the border. think about that for a moment. that's an enormous amount of people who say they are seeking asylum. there could be, there should be, there probably won't be. that is to the shame of the people in washington getting the paycheck. >> harris: a lot of ears perked up and eyes popped when they said, yes, they should give him the money he needs for border patrol. there is no specificity for the wall. some of it would be potentially to take judges to the border. the backlog legally to sift through all of those cases and arguments for asylum and otherwise. also, the border patrol has

north of 2,000 job openings right now. they are having a problem with getting those jobs failed under the pressure of this, even with help from the military. because they step back. they are not on the front lines of that. >> capri: right, and there are some constraints there specifically in regards to whether or not the u.s. military can actually enforce domestic laws. that's a whole different argument. no question, there are two things that play. one is having a comprehensive approach to border security whether it's with or without the wall. there is no question that we need additional manpower. the ninth circuit is a friend of the trump administration with this ruling. i think that mexico and central america, particularly mexico -- the federal americans responsible for these individuals fleeing are in peri. so they are less in peril and we are not having so many people coming into the united states. i also think this -- this issue

of the merit-based immigration. that sounds grace still not great, but it doesn't do with the illegal issue at all. it deals with a revamping of the legal immigration. we also have to recognize that our nation is built on immigrants. potentially unskilled labor. my family coming from italy and ukraine. who is going to do some of these jobs? >> melissa: we are running out of time. we are at the point we don't need to nix ideas from other people. we need everything. but such an emergency. hang on, you brought up the point of the ninth circuit. the ruling, it makes so much sense he would say asylum-seekers have to stay in mexico before they can enter. >> lisa: i think it's great. >> melissa: you left your country, you are safe now, if you are sincerely just here because you are free for your life, you won't mind waiting right here in this safe spot until you come in. it's like saying that you take somebody saying, "did you come across that money legally or did

you steal it? we will let you hang out on the vault." >> harris: mexico is keeping his word to the president that they would have that happen. >> capri: but what part of this proposal actually addresses the issue of asylum-seekers? >> lisa: that's also part of where the mexico aspect of that comes into play. one big challenge with the asylum-seekers we are taking is that it takes so long to move through court proceedings. >> harris: judges on the border. >> lisa: keeping them in mexico does address an aspect of this. >> capri: i agree. >> lisa: the biggest problem on reaching some sort of deal is the division in congress. division and each party on how to address immigration, both republicans and democrats. and also having divided government right now. even "the new york times" editorial board put that on display is a talks about, yes, you have to give the president the money. then there's the caveat, "what about the i.c.e. detention beds?" that's a sticking point. so that's a problem. even though there's the consensus that there needs to be more money. >> you've got senator tom cotton who says you don't want to give

too many spaces for jobs, like a worker program pair that takes jobs away from americans. other republicans don't agree with that. around and around we go. >> gov. huckabee: let me take one exception to the idea of the dna swabbing. the recent support and his kids are being rented. >> capri: used, i get that. >> gov. huckabee: its human trafficking. these kids are being exploited. the only way to show they are part of this family -- >> capri: what if they are adopted? >> gov. huckabee: in the lock to bring some kind of identification end over their parents names are. >> capri: it just seems very violated. >> gov. huckabee: not to swap them out for that not that violating. i will tell you what's violating, taking a kid that's not yours and exploiting them and using them. >> capri: amen. >> gov. huckabee: that's violent. >> harris: we will come back to this. meanwhile, iran is announcing able stop complying with parts of the 2015 nuclear deal and threatening the uranium enrichment. the growing tensions with that regime. the debate ahead. ♪

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>> melissa: we are going to dip into this hearing again right now. you see the chairman of the judiciary committee there, democrat jerry nadler, talking. we have been told that congresswoman donna congressman gaetz was up and asking questions but will deepen because that's obviously not m. and listen to what's going on. speak of the chairman just said, it gets to the heart of this thing. that's that if really one were to believe that the underlying contempt citation was issued irrespective of -- designed to put mr. barr into a box where he's got a binary choice, effectively saying, "i will either violate the federal law or be held in contempt," i just find it somewhat odd and awkward

that he was invited then to go to court and appealed to the court and say, "give me permission to reveal this reductive --" >> melissa: they are going back and forth. they have not gone to a point where they want to take a vote. so we are going to listen for anything pertinent and we are going to let you know if they begin voting on this issue. there you go. >> gov. huckabee: melissa, can i go out on a limb? i'm going to go out on a limb and predict that when they take the boat the democrats are going to vote. to hold him in contempt. and the republicans will vote not to. there you have it. >> harris: and you base that on hunch? >> gov. huckabee: i want to take the chance. we will see and we will certainly bring you that as soon as it happens. no reaction -- go ahead! [laughter] >> lisa: as we watch that we are also watching that.

new reaction as iran ratchets up tensions with the united states and our allies. they are saying today the country will stop complying with parts of the obama-era nuclear deal and set a 60 day deadline for new terms to be reach with the deal's remaining members. before the regime will resume higher uranium enrichment. it comes when you have to president trump announced america's withdrawal from the deal. yesterday secretary of state mike pompeo making a surprise visit to iran don't like iraq and made the tensions this comes after they deployed an aircraft carrier to the region, in response to it official cyber threats from ira iran. it's a lot to unpack you. i will start with you come with sanctions aspect for their giving the remaining members 60 days to essentially try and do a workaround for u.s. sanctions. how effective have those sanctions bent on iran? what does it tell you about the sanctions? >> melissa: it tells you it's been effective, they are buckling under the economic pressure and trying to do everything they can to get the allies to come out and have a

different outcome on this. i think that what is interesting about this is that a lot of democrats, especially -- or people who don't like president trump -- make the comparison between this and the north korean situation. what's different about this is that the money that iran gets, the sanctions, it goes to terror. they are actively waging war. the north koreans are threatening to do the same but they aren't currently funding terror around the world at attacking americans wherever they may be. attacking israel. there's a difference there. i think that in terms of the sanctions it shows that it's definitely working. the one and may be -- if i could just add real quickly, the way that we know that is happening e and the trump administration recently made the decision to send some big pieces of equipment out into that part of the ocean. we've got an aircraft carrier group going there now. we know the threats against america are real.

i know that the revolutionary guard, the iranian revolutionary guard, has not been called a terror group with the support underneath it has. and the types of terrorism -- governor, i know you know this, as well -- it's strong enough, what we just caught a blanket terrorist group? >> gov. huckabee: melissa's point is an important one. the remaining situation is very different. they are currently funding hezbollah, hamas, every rocket was fired of the over 700 rockets fired into israel were paid for by iran. that's where that money came from. there's no money in gaza. hamas doesn't have any money except what iran gives them. the one thing that the iranians have done very effectively, they have united the rest of the middle east against the iranians. >> capri: and we have our traditional allies would been alienating. >> gov. huckabee: we got the saudis, the qatari pearl s. >> capri: i'm not talking about them, i'm talking about -- >> gov. huckabee: they want the money from trade of oil. but they will have to wake wakp

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>> melissa: fox news alert, the dow looking to be bound as another round of trade talks between the u.s. and china look to be kicking off tomorrow after all that. the administration announcing that tariffs on $200 billion of chinese imports will jump to 25%, from 10%, starting friday. after the say beijing reneged on commitments that had already made. the president tweeting, "the reason for the china pullback and attempted renegotiation of the trade deal is a sincere hope that they will be able to negotiate with joe biden or one of the very weak democrats. thereby, continue to rip off the united states $500 billion a year for years to come. guess what? that's not going to happen. china has just informed us that they are now coming to the u.s. to make a deal." and he appears to have an a la

income of all people, chuck schumer >> china will take advantage of us, decadent, decade outcome on this restroom with them. it'll help america in the long run. >> gov. huckabee: are fair to say, i'm proud of chuck schumer. i'm worried about it, maybe the president to stick in the wrong course of chuck schumer thinks it's a good idea. but he's right. this is something that ought to unify the leadership in washington for decades we've ber punched by the chinese. we've allowed them to bully us. we have capitulated to them because we didn't want to lose all these cheap things coming to the united states. finally you've got a present who says, "i'm not going to be bullied." i'm proud of chuck schumer for standing up and saying that he will support the president. >> capri: they've been concerned about china for a long time. with its currency make elation, stealing social property. even back when they were democratic congressional members

that pushed against the obama administration, for the trans-pacific partnership. for those of us from the industrial midwest, we pay very close attention to this. for those of us who are also from rural america, we continue to be concerned by the fact that there are tariffs on agricultural products. >> melissa: lisa, i will ask you -- this is the problem. when he let your house to be a giant mess, it's then really painful to clean it up. as opposed to cleaning it up along the way. we've gotten ourselves into this position where we have let things get worse and worse and worse. it's going to be very painful to clean it up now. in the end, when you look at that sparkling home, it's worth it. >> lisa: as long as he struck a good deal get it done preferably before 2020. your president trump -- i don't know if i spent too much time in washington, d.c., the answer is probably yes working in congress, but i'm cynical. but part of this is senator chuck schumer cheering this on because he wants farmers to feel pain and for rural america to feel pain. then he can pend that on president trump heading into the 2020 election.

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we wonder why people don't like politicians so much. thanks to all of you. it was a fun time on the couch today. will be back here at noon eastern tomorrow. in the meantime, here's harris. >> harris: and here is what we are watching. a key house panel set to vote on whether to hold the attorney general in contempt of congress. the president made a big move just before it started, the big move on the mueller report. we will just be 26 now. i'm harris faulkner. passions are high, as you might imagine, on the house judiciary committee. as they prepare to vote on whether to hold attorney general william barr in contempt. this, as president trump exerts executive privilege with a full report, and other investigative records subpoenaed by house democrats. watch. >> no person, certainly not the top law enforcement officer in the country, can be permitted to flout the will of congress and defy