we will see -- >> julie: it sounds like they are looking to make a deal. we've been hearing that all week long, they are looking to make a deal. >> bill: type stuff. the speed it's not over yet. "outnumbered" starts now. >> bill: catch you friday. >> julie: see you tomorrow. to see you, too. speed up to fox news alert , didn't have exposure of the house nancy pelosi making clear that investigations over the president will continue less than 20 hours after the judiciary committee voted along party lines to hold attorney general william barr in contempt. republicans today are doubling down saying this is really about undermining the ag ahead of a report on the origins of the russia probe. this is "outnumbered" and i'm melissa francis. here today, harris faulkner. fox business network anchor dagen mcdowell, syndicated radio host and fox news contributor leslie marshall, and joining us on the couch, host of "bulls and bears" on the fox business network, my forever

and from her coanchor, david asman. >> david: we are so happy when we are together once again. reunited! >> melissa: we have a lot to get to, let's hit it. the ball is now in house speaker nancy pelosi's court in order for democrats to hold attorney general barr in of congress. the full house most vote it passed in the committee yesterday. pelosi not saying when that will be held, but she will say this is just the beginning of the house's actions against the trump administration. >> know we are not even talking about isolated situations. we are talking about a cumulative effect of obstruction that this administration has engaged in. the president declaring that he is not going to honor any subpoenas from the congress. i support the path that our

chairman are on, and i do believe it will establish the case for where we go from here. >> melissa: where is that? meanwhile, republican congressman doug collins, ranking member of the house judiciary committee, says democrats are really going after attorney general barr because he is investigating the origins of the russia probe. >> i'm committed to finding out how we got into this mess, that's why they are painting him as someone not telling the trutg cooperative. when this comes out, they will have to do with the fact that what i talked about and many others, the corrupt cabal of comey and strzok and page and how this got started. >> melissa: in the meantime at a rally in florida last night, the president did not think democrats' continuing investigations. >> instead of wasting time and taxpayer dollars on stunts and hoaxes and witch hunts, democrats should be focused on building up our country. did you see what just happened,

by the way? no collusion! no obstruction! [cheers and applause] no anything. two years, a witch hunt. it's time to stop this nonsense. >> melissa: collusion delusion, david asman! >> david: don't think the way he emphasizes certain words, he does it well? bottom line, jerry nadler is convicting before there is a trial. mr. barr, of contempt for upholding the law. by the way, doing something that he wants demanded that ken starr do, which is not releasing stuff from grand jury testimony in this whole report. it's, what, 2% of the stuff that he is withholding? >> harris: not even. >> david: not even that. it is actually against the law for some pretty good reasons, because there's a lot of stuff that goes into grand jury testimony that is unverified, that is not true, that would do terrible things to our system of justice, which is supposed to protect the innocent if it was

released. that is the law. thank god we are governed by the rule of law, and other rule of jerry nadler. >> melissa: it is so annoying. i will let you take this on. for anyone watching, you just get dizzy. the back and forth between, "it's against the law to release it," and, "it's a law that we are supposed to have, and we have the oversight." if everyone is cleaning they have the law on their side, why don't they just go to court and let a judge decide? >> leslie: i think that's what's going to happen where it will end up. >> melissa: then move on to something else while a judge is looking at. >> leslie: when you look at a political perspective, what happened to the republicans after numerous by ghazi investigations? if you take a clip of what the president just said, democrats were saying that about benghazi. they said that about other clinton and her emails. it's like we can cost cut-and-paste. >> david: like nadler speaking about ken starr. >> leslie: you could take all of that. witch hunts, hoax. politically, the replicants and

suffer after hillary and her emails. after the continuing investigations with benghazi. i say that because obviously both sides have a political card to play after the election in 2020 coming up. that said, you are looking at, at the end of the day, the most that'll happen is a $10,000 fine, a one year jail sentence. we all know that's not going to happen to the attorney general. >> harris: we know that because it didn't happen to eric holder under barack obama over fast and furious gunrunning operations. that's how we know. >> dagen: despite a border patrol agent losing his life as part of that operation. >> harris: yeah. that's how we know that. it's a little bit of apples and oranges. all due respect, i think it is a clear picture to compare it to ken starr, as you were doing. independent counsel version special counsel. it was that run at it that got the law to change. it's part of 6e, those rules. it's also a telltale sign that in the majority they could at

least kick things off among the democrats, to change those grand jury testimony rules if they really wanted to. "look, down the hole in the doj, inside that scif --" maybe it's not well-lit, maybe it's scary in there. [laughter] maybe that's why the democrats, the five or six that have the right to be able to go in there, including adler, don't go down the hall and take a look. >> david: i've been in a scif, by the way. >> harris: a mostly unredacted document. i will say it like a broken record -- when you want to ask for something, if you did my scripts this way and you cross them out, i would say, "melissa, after it says democratic speaker it goes to this." let's advocate for what is missing. it would make the argument that much more substantive and meaningful if you can tell people where you want the gaps filled in. but if you don't even read the document, how can you do that? democrats look really disingenuous when they want the whole document. >> david: he says he will go into the scif because he will be able to share that information that he has gleaned with other

people. imagine how that would leak like a sieve. grantor testimony is not supposed to leak. that's why we have these laws. >> harris: exactly. i don't know the conditions inside the scif. i'm personally a little claustrophobic. maybe you need a window. i'm joking. i'm just really legitimately wondering what the end game is for the democrats. >> leslie: won the democratic party -- when you look at polls the voters of the democratic party, and a lot of americans regardless of their political ideology, the concern is the appearance of not a loyalty by the attorney general to the constitution or the american people, first and foremost. more so, some feel, especially on the left, to the president. b3 the end game is to not impeach, but to make it look like that. to appeal to the far left that want the present impeach pay let me finish, i haven't spoken it. to make the far left look like they are impeaching him and then

to appease the middle of the base. four gold stars, nancy and jerry, for their summer camp theatrics and manufactured outrage. >> leslie: wait a minute, doesn't look political if you say, "i will sit before the senate committee," the majority republican, "but i won't sit before the house committee customer close with them a dirty mark >> melissa: it's all political, no one can stand it any longer pay [laughter] in the meantime, the present right now in the roosevelt room. i'm redoing this? no? okay. there we go. the president right now the roosevelt room, he is delivering remarks on ending surprised medical building. we will hear if he says anything about the other topics we were talking about. let's listen in. [applause] >> president trump: my administration has already taken decisive action to make health care more affordable for american families. we have vastly expanded lower-cost health insurance

plans. that's happening, and it has been an incredible success. we have begun a bold initiative to reduce the price of prescription drugs. last year, drug prices saw their first decline in 46 years. the first time in 46 years that drug prices have gone down. now they will be going down a long way for me there. including that we may allow states to buy drugs and other countries. if we can buy them for a lesser price, substantially less price. that is going to be very unique, but we will allow them to go to other countries because the drug companies have treated us very, very unfairly. and the rules and restrictions within our country have been absolutely atrocious. so we will allow them, with certain permissions, to go to other countries if they can buy them for 40, 50, 60% less. it's pretty pathetic, but that's the way it works. for many years, drug companies give foreign companies better deals than they gave our own country. now we are making sure that our

great senior share in the discounts given to other countries, and we will always protect patients with pre-existing conditions. very importantly, the republican party will always protect patients with preexisting conditions. that's the man right there. in my state of the union address, i asked congress to pass legislation to protect american patients. for too long, surprise billings -- which has been a tremendous problem in this country -- has left some patients with thousands of dollars of unexpected and unjustified charges for services they did not know anything abou about. and sometimes services they did not have any information on, they weren't told by the doctor, they weren't told by the hospitals in the areas they were going to. they get what we call a "surprise bill." not a pleasant surprise, very unpleasant surprise. this must end. we are going to hold insurance

companies and hospitals totally accountable. we are joined today by families who are personally experiencing some horrible injustices of surprised medical bills. drew and erin, from austin, texas. i would like you to may be come up. to share your stories. it's a pretty amazing story. >> hi. i have insurance, but we are still stuck with a highly inflated medical bill. a lot of pain, stress, and fear with that bill looming over us. a highly inflated bill. >> melissa: this was the president and there of the roosevelt room, he is talking about putting a cap on ending sd medical bills when you get a service out of state or out of network and you have no idea what the bill is going to be until later, and it's much

higher than you expected. he talked about the fact, too, that prescription drug prices are falling for the first time in 46 years and they are going to push them lower. he also talked about the fact that he is committed to protecting pre-existing conditions, as well. health care -- this brings you back. it's such a perfect juxtaposition, because at first were talking about the political nonsense and then here is a real issue that people at home really care about, and both sides need to come together and work on. >> david: is one of those issues that -- you are an economist, you can do with medical pricing from an economic perspective, but your head will explode if you try to do that. nevertheless, it affects real people. real people have medical bills, surprise medical bills. there is such a disconnect between the pricing of medical techniques and medical procedures that you get these days, because there are so many middlemen between the consumer and the provider. you have health insurance, many different layers of health insurance. government, medicaid, medicare.

if you kind of strip out some of those lawyers, find out a way of putting closer contact between the provider, the doctor, the hospital, and the receiver, the patient, if you squeeze that -- all those middlemen out, you get a better sense of pricing. that's what needs to be done. >> dagen: don't forget, president trump -- when he was running for president, he agreed with hillary clinton on the notion that the u.s. government should negotiate drug prices on behalf of medicare. that hasn't happened during his time, but we have had a record number of generic drug approvals out of the fda. that has helped bring drug prices down. transparency is the next step. but this is the number one issue for voters. nbc "wall street journal" survey in may found that 24% chose health care as the top priority for the federal government. it was only 18% on immigration and border security. job creation was even lower than that. this is how he is trying to get ahead of the issue of

health care, because the republicans, without the repeal and replace, they don't really have a plan. >> harris: and they really don't want to do with it. when the president brought this up a few weeks ago and he said, "look, we should be concentrating on what it looks like she protect pre-existing conditions," you read them say it there live a couple seconds ago. republicans will always protect pre-existing conditions. senator mitch mcconnell, leader of the republicans in the senate, said, "no, we are not doing health care right now." the president is spot on about focusing on this issue for all those polling results you just gave. but also because that's what matters to people. and he's been out there. he just came back from the rally. he knows it. >> dagen: can i add one more thing real quick? when kelly unkindly joined his campaign in 2016, she told me face-to-face, "this is the number one issue, health care costs. people get their premium increases for the following year right when they go to the polls and they don't have anything to run right now in terms of the november new enrollment."

>> leslie: my husband is a doctor, and part owner of a medical practice. this is something, the surprise bill and come it comes up. i've had it, i think the president was opening my mail. i got on the other day. this is very smart for the president to do, because this is an issue that, left or right, it's most important. not just the polling now, when you look at the exit data after the midterm elections, the democrats won those seats largely on health care is the number would issue. >> dagen: add a family member who passed away, and the health care center denied -- the insurer denied coverage and they tried to come after me for the health care costs for somebody who had already died. >> david: he's getting ahead of it, though. 18 months before the election. that's smart. >> melissa: any moment now, 2020 candidate senator bernie sanders and congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez will unveil a proposal targeting wall street that the freshman democrat is calling "radical." we will tell you the latest idea

from the party's progressive wing, plus extending new statistics on the migrant crisis at the southern border. now a growing number of democrats have stopped calling it a "manufactured crisis," what they're saying now and whether or not it will change the conversation in washington. >> our apprehension numbers are off the charts. it's like holding a bucket under a faucet. it doesn't matter how many buckets you give me, if we can't turn off the flow. ♪ alright, i brought in ensure max protein... ...to give you the protein you need with less of the sugar you don't (grunti)g i'll take that. (cheering) 30 grams of protein and 1 gram of sugar ensure. for strength and energy.

lexus ux and ux f sport. also available in hybrid all-wheel-drive. lease the 2019 ux 200 for $329 a month for 36 months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer.

let's see, aleve is than tylenol extra strength. and last longer with fewer pills. so why am i still thinking about this? i'll take aleve. aleve. proven better on pain.

hey, who are you? oh, hey jeff, i'm a car thief... what?! i'm here to steal your car because, well, that's my job. what? what?? what?! (laughing) what?? what?! what?! [crash] what?! haha, it happens. and if you've got cut-rate car insurance, paying for this could feel like getting robbed twice. so get allstate... and be better protected from mayhem... like me. ♪

>> democrats believe that everyone in the world has the right to violate our borders. they want open borders. this respect our laws. [boos] and come into our country and collect benefits, courtesy of the united states taxpayer. thank you very much.

you see the hill we are going through, trying to get the wall. which, by the way, works. they say, "we want to give him drones, we want to give him technology." without the ball, nothing works, folks. >> dagen: that was present about the he's coming for bipartisan support in dealing with the crisis on the southern border. as it overwhelms our immigration system. border patrol e's calling for bipartisan chiefs sounding the alarm come in a senate hearing yesterday. >> are every inch of numbers off the charts compared to recent years. as of april 30th, we apprehended 460,294 people on the southern border. in the last week, we had our highest single day -- over 5200 apprehensions. our single largest group of 421 illegal aliens. we cannot address this crisis by simple shifting more resources or building more facilities. it's like holding a bucket under the faucet. it doesn't matter how many

buckets you forgive me if you can't turn off the flow. >> dagen: some democrats have long claimed of the border crisis has been manufactured, but at least 12020 oh full, kelsey grammer, acknowledging that the problems are real >> it is a crisis, there is still a lack resources being sent there to deal with the large numbers of people who are seeking asylum or trying to come across our borders. that extreme shortage of resources continues to be a problem. i think we have also got to recognize that, as you say, for people to come into our country illegally, our legal immigration system is vastly outdated and broken. >> dagen: another deportation official telling congress yesterday that ice has already released 168,000 illegal immigrant family members into the u.s. this fiscal year, which started october 1st. results of a pilot program show that a staggering 87% -- 87% of

those families -- skip their court hearings. and the government is not equipped to track them down. david, you covered latin america for a long time for "the wall street journal." they have an extensive piece on the front page today. they write that this is different, it's about families. not about individual jobseekers, which is kind of the problems of debt within the past. it's a deepening mentoring crisis on the border. straining towns, aid groups, federal agencies, thousands of families in need. they need immediate shelter, after their release. what is going to get done? >> david: at least there is a waking up, not only by "the wall street journal" -- their reporting section, by the way, deserves some kind of prize for detailing the crisis at the border. also even "the new york times," 60 minutes. what kills me, we showed the congresswoman admitting that there was a crisis just a couple of weeks ago. beto o'rourke was at the border saying, "no problem."

and he was right there seeing all the things that are easy to see. i understand we've got some breaking news. >> harris: i want to break in with this breaking news, back to the white house now. the president giving that surprise medical bill legislation talk, he is now taking questions. he is talking about the tariffs in china. >> president trump: things are going along pretty well there. a large group delegation headed by one of the most respected men and highest officials of china will be coming in today. they start at 5:00. we will see what they can do. our alternative is an excellent one. it's an alternative i've spoken about for years. we will take in will over $100 billion a year. we never took in $0.10 from china, not $0.10. i think it will be a very strong day, frankly. we will see. we will see. it was their idea to come back. >> reporter: will you talk to president xi? >> president trump: hear me beautiful letter, i just received it.

i will probably speak to him by phone. we have two great alternatives. our country is doing fantastically well. our number is at 3.2. don't forget, 3.2 -- the first quarter is always by far the worst quarter. at least almost always. he looked back over the years, the first quarter is always weak. we had 3.2 gdp. our own employment numbers are the best in the history of our country. we are doing well. our countries are doing well. even the great state of ohio yesterday, general motors, at my very strong urging -- to put it mildly, very strong urging. i was nice about it, but i prescient with they did. they sold the beautiful plant, lordstown. they sold that beautiful plant to a very good company that is going to make electric trucks. that worked. that was the only thing they could say about our whole economy, lordstown. they kept saying, "lordstown, lordstown." when you have all of these great companies spending billions and billions of dollars coming into

our country, they couldn't talk about it. they only mentioned the one plant. it was a gm plant from a very long time ago. now we have a great company going in, they are going to make electric trucks. very appropriate, interesting idea, actually. electric trucks. yes, please. reporting act will you allow robert mueller to testify in congress question on >> president trump: i will leave that up to our very good attorney general. he will make a decision on that. i will say this, the mueller report came out. it was done at -- i guess and hearing numbers now close to $40 million. with 17 or 18 very angry democrats who hated donald trum donald trump. also, everything they could possibly have at their disposal. there was nobody who was come in the history of our country, more transparent than me. i said, "give that every document, give them every person. let the white house counsel testify." i think he testified for 30 hours. they must have asked him the

same question, because it wasn't very much to testify about. i said, "let him testify, let him -- keep them as long as you want." actually, when i heard 30 hours, i said, "that's a long time." but i let them testify. i didn't have to come i have presidential privilege. i could have stopped everything. i didn't even have to give them a document. i give them 1.5 million documents. i gave them white house counsel. i give them other -- anybody you want, you can talk to. at the end of the testimony, no collusion, and essentially no obstruction. of course, a lot of people say, "how can you obstruct when there was no crime, when there was no collusion? how can you possibly obstruct?" it's worse than that. not only was there no crime, but the crime was committed on the other side. so we are protecting against a crime committed on the other side. so, after spending all of that money, all of that time, two years, they come up with the report. and bob mueller is no friend of

mine, i had conflicts with him. we had a business dispute. we had somebody that is in love with james comey. they liked james comey, they were very good friends. supposedly best friends. maybe not, but supposedly best friends. we look at the picture file, you see hundreds of pictures of him and call me. with all of that, and other things, he wanted the fbi job. i don't know if anybody knows that. as you know, he was considered for the fbi job. he wanted it. the day after he didn't get it, he became the special counsel. that's a conflict. and other things. but those are tremendous conflicts. listen to this -- your judge has a business dispute with me. your judge has a fantastic relationship with james comey. well, he is a part of this. he lied to congress, he leaked, he is a liar, a leaker. your dress has a situation where he wanted to become the fbi director

we chose director wray instead. and we told him, "i'm sorry." those are tremendous conflicts. and then, he puts on his staff almost all democrats. many of whom contributed to hillary clinton. none of them contributed to me, that i can tell you. it started out at 13, went to 18. these were angry democrats. these were people that went to her. in one case, went to her, supposed to be a party, it turned out to be a funeral on election evening. and was going wild, he was so angry. this man now is judging me. you had other people, who made big contributions to hillary clinton's campaign. they were angry democrats. i think, almost in all cases. one of the people worked on the clinton foundation, as just about the top person at the

clinton foundation. with all of this, they came back -- "no collusion." there is nobody in this room, including you -- that's you, john. if we looked at you, with $40 million, 18 angry people that hated you, and all of the other things i mentioned, they will find something. i don't know, it may be -- go ahead, finish. speak of his also-rans of mr. barr. as you are aware, he told lawmakers he didn't have a problem with mr. mueller. be done i >> president trump: i believe that up to the attorney general. to me, looks like a redo. here's what's happening. the report comes back, it's perfect. it's beautiful. there is no collusion. nobody even talks about collusion. i haven't heard the word "russia" in a long time. there's no more talk about russia. what happened to russia? the russian witch hunt, they don't talk about it because it was so on collusion. which, by the way, is by far -- that's the big deal. it was all about russia. i haven't heard the word

"russia." they don't use the word "russia" anymore. there is no crime. there never was a crime. it was a hoax. it was a witch hunt so this comes back, and it comes back totally exonerating donald trump and a lot of other people. this was a terrible thing that happened to our country. i will tell you what they are asking -- they are asking about, "how did this whole thing start questionnaire" that's what people want to know. i had an event last night, a lot of you were there. thousands and thousands of people standing in a field. they've never seen anything like it. meaning, even the press. but it's always that way. we've never had an empty seat. thousands of people last night. you know they want to know? "how did this whole thing start?" it's going to be hard for them to answer that. >> reporter: are you satisfied with the advising of john bolton? >> president trump: he is very good. he has strong views on things, but that's okay.

i actually temper john, which is pretty amazing, isn't it? [laughter] nobody thought that was going to happen. i'm the one that 10%. but that's okay. i have different sides. i have john bolton and i have other people that are a little bit more dovish than him. ultimately make the decision. i like john, i get very good advice from him. >> reporter: mr. president, as you saw, the senate intelligence committee has subpoena dungeon he prayed that the republican-like committee. what you make of that? >> president trump: i was very depressed, i heard them saying there was no collusion to three weeks ago. he went outside and somebody asked him, "we found no collusion." i was very surprised to see my son. my son is very good person. he works very hard. the last thing he needs is washington, d.c., . remember, he said to me a long time ago when i was thinking about running, "dad, if i can help, let me know. it's not my expertise, it's not something i really like, but

whatever i can do -- you are my father, whatever i can do." he has never testified for 20 hours or something. a massive amount of time. the mueller report came out. that is the bible. the mueller report came out. they said he did nothing wrong. the only thing is, it's oppo research. if you did wrong, everybody standing with me -- except for john. and i think lamar -- did you ever do oppo research? i don't think so. after mack [laughter] i know john barrasso never did opposition research. because he is a fine, fine man. i would say 99% of the rest of the folks. what they didn't discuss is this woman who came in, i watch her on "the today show." when it all started. nobody even knows. although the halls of congress know it very well. for years she has walked around all over congress.

she came in, and she left. supposedly, gps fusion, they go and meet for a short period of time with my son and some of the people. they talk about a subject as very well -- you know, advertised and put out. it was a nothing meeting. in fact, jared left. he said, "get me out of this meeting, it's a waste of time." she then went back to gps fusion. they were the ones that wrote the phony dossier. why was she going to gps fusion? why would she go back? then i heard that don, for a year, made three phone calls with an unmarked number. they called it unmarked. and this was a tremendous event because they all knew the fake news. they all knew. you were fair on that, john. but they all knew this -- these tremendous phone calls, before the meeting and after the

meeting, they were -- i believe there were three, right? they all knew it had to be to his father. unmarked, it's perfect. so he reported about the meeting, and then reported what happened at the meeting. except after looking and spending a tremendous amount of time and money, they are able to go back and find out who made the calls. one was a local real estate developer, the other was a great person from nascar. he took two of them. any friend of don's. this went on for a year and a half. john, you heard all about the phone calls to, obviously, the father. i never knew about the meeting. but the phone calls to the father turned out not to be the phone calls. my son is a good person. my son testified for hours and hours. my son was totally exonerated by mueller, who, frankly, does not like donald trump. me, this donald trump.

and, frankly, for my son, after being exonerated, to now get a subpoena? to go again and speak again after close to 20 hours of telling everybody that would listen about a nothing meeting? yeah, i'm pretty surprised. >> reporter: should he fight that subpoena? >> president trump: we will see what happens. i'm just very surprised. >> reporter: the aircraft carrier -- >> president trump: we were threatening, we have information that you don't want to know about. they were very threatening, and we just want to have -- we have to have great security for this country and for a lot of other places. >> reporter: this military confirmation -- >> president trump: you can say that always. i don't want to say no, but hopefully that won't happen. we have one of the most powerful ships in the world that is loaded up, we don't want to have to do anything. what i would like to see with iran, i would like to see them

call me. john kerry, he speaks to them a lot. he tells them not to call. that is a violation of the logan act. frankly, he should be prosecuted on that. but my people don't want to do anything -- only the democrats do that kind of stuff. you know? if it were the opposite way, they would prosecute him under the logan act. but john kerry violated the logan act. he is talking to iran and has been, has many meetings and many phone calls, and he is telling them what to do. that is a total violation of the logan act. because what they should be doing, their economy is a mess ever since i took away the iran deal. they have inflation that is the highest number i have ever heard. they are having riots every weekend and during the week, even. what they should be doing is calling me up, sitting down, "we can make a fair deal." we don't want them to have nuclear weapons, not much to ask. without put them back into great shape. they are in bad shape right now.

i look forward to the day were we can actually help iran. we are not looking to hurt iran. i want them to be strong and great to have great economy. but they are listening to john kerry, who has violated a very important element of what he is supposed to be doing. he violated the logan act. plain and simple. he shouldn't be doing that. but they should call. if they do, we are open to talk to them. we have no secrets. they can be very, very strong. financially, they have great potential. very much like north korea. north korea has potential economically. i don't think he's going to blow that. i don't think so. >> reporter: is it still possible to get a trade deal with the chinese this week? >> president trump: it's possible to do it. the vice premier, one of the most respected men, one of the highest officials in china, is coming. you heard he wasn't coming, he is coming. i will say this, once the tariffs -- it was supposed to

take place originally on thursday, then about five weeks ago they said, "how about friday, how about next week?" i said, "what is this about? that's okay, let's take an $100 billion a year." i weep with the tariffs on. we made the statement paid and then they upped the meeting. "let's go back to thursday." i don't know what's going happen. i did get last night a very beautiful president letter from president xi. "let's work together and see if he can get something done." but they were negotiated. whether it's intellectual property theft, they took many, many parts of that deal and they renegotiated. you can't do that. i am different than a lot of people. i happen to think that tariffs, for our country, are very powerful. where the piggy bank that everybody steals from, including china. we've been paying china $500 billion a year for many, many years. china rebuilt their country because of us.

they couldn't have done what they are doing. they are building a ship every three weeks. they are building aircraft like you have never seen. fighter jets. i respect it. i don't blame them, i blame our past leadership for allowing this to happen. what i am doing now with china should have happened many years ago. not just obama, long before obama. i always say, if you look -- nafta is one of the worst deals ever made. trade deals. but the worst trade deal ever made is the wto. because china was flatlining for many, many decades. many, many -- it was flat, right here. the wto came along, we allowed china into the wto, and they became a rocket ship. you got to take a look at a chart sometime. do it, it will be very interesting. an economic chart. they are here, and they went up like a rocket ship. well, they did it with our money. and others.

and they did it because they are very smart, they are good people, and i like the president a lot. he is a friend of mine. but i am representing the usa. and he is representing china. and we are not going to be taking advantage of any more. we won't pay china $500 billion a year. we need to put very heavy tarifn china, as of friday. we also put them eight months ago. when people look at the economic numbers, they were shocked. they look at the import export numbers, they were shocked. they said, "wow, how did they get to this point?" that was a very good report. they had never seen that for many years. i said, "try looking at all of the tariffs that china has been paying us for the last eight months. billions and billions of dollars." and that's only because i gave them a break. because we were negotiating goodwill, we were negotiating. i gave them a break. i said, "let's keep it at 10%

instead of 25%." now what we're doing is raising it to 25% on friday. it will be $250 billion, at 25%. and it will be $325 billion at 25%. and we are starting that paperwork today. so we will see. but, you know what? as president of our country, i've got to do something about it. as president of our great country, we are going to be taking in more money than we've ever taken in. all of these countries, many of them have taken advantage of us. including our allies. they taken advantage of us on trade, they've taken advantage of us on military, we defend all of these countries for nothing or for a tiny fraction of what it costs. we take care of nato. i'm all for nato. i think it's just wonderful, but it's different than it was 25 years ago and 40 years ago. i got nato to put up an extra

$100 billion. i asked the secretary general. he is like donald trump's biggest fan. spending was going down. the contributions that the 28 countries were making, it was heading like a slope down pay like a very steep mountain. and then i came, and it went up like china. it went up like a rocket ship. okay? but i don't like seeing people take advantage. we pay anywhere from 70 to 100% of nato. we protect nato, we protect european countries. and we protect them. we protect them beautifully. we are the power, the most powerful nation. especially since we have redone our military, we are redoing and done all of the nuclear -- you never want to use it, but you have to have it. we have spent, and i think congress for this, $700 billion and then $717 billion. $16 billion on our military. our military, when i came to

office, was totally depleted. we now have, by far, the strongest military in the world. but we defend countries. when you look at our budget, we are $716 billion. and russia is at $68 billion. how do you figure that? because russia doesn't go around defending every country in the world. and not getting paid for it. you know what? i don't mind not getting paid. if there is a country that has been horribly treated and lots of bad things are happening and they are not a rich country. but when we defend the richest countries in the world, and they don't pay us for what we do -- and, frankly, they go back into closed meetings and laugh at the stupidity of the united states for doing it. these are countries with nothing but cash. they could very easily -- i told the story last night, i picked up $500 million with one phone call to a country. and that is just the beginning. i've done it with many other countries anyway. just over the last very short

period of time. one phone call that lasted for a period of calm i would say, 5 minutes? i picked up $500 million. i said, "you are not taking care of us. we are taking care of you, but you are not taking care of us. it's not fair." really, the word is not fair. nato doesn't treat us fairly at all. but now they are starting to pa pay. if you look at mr. stoltenberg, he will tell you he's never seen anything like it. $100 billion. that's a low number. they are paying $100 billion. but how do you feel about this? germany -- you are supposed be paying 2%, germany is paying 1%. they say 1.3%, but call at 1% because it's really closer to 1%. germany pays to russia billions of dollars a month for the pipeline. and yet we are supposed to be defending germany from russia. so, germany is giving the so-called "enemy" -- i don't want to call them and then me. i want to get along with russia,

and with china. because i'm smart. stupid people don't want to get around. i'm smart. this witch hunt hurt us in our relationships with a lot of country. it was an extensive, horrible thing for our country paid by the way, it should never, ever happen again to a president. two years i've been going through this nonsense. and that we have a good report. and now, guys like jerry nadler -- who i fought for many years -- successfully, i might add -- back in new york, in manhattan. he was a manhattan congressman. i beat him all the time. i come to washington and now i have to beat him again. over nothing. over a hoax. and they know it's a hoax. they are smart. nadler is a smart guy. schiff is a smart guy. when shift goes to the microphone, he is conning this whole country. and he knows that. he goes back into a room and he talks to his friends, and he laughs. because that's the way life is. but our country is doing great. we are going to find out about china tonight, and i think in the end you are going to be very

impressed with the kind of things we are doing. the reason they were so surprised with the numbers, two or three weeks ago -- now the 3.2 3.2 gdp which everybody was surprised that, but may be more importantly, export numbers. import numbers. we have billions of dollars coming to our country that our country never would have seen with a regular president. this should have been done many years ago. i told president xi of china and i tell abe, a good friend of mine. prime minister of japan. i tell him, i tell everybody. i say, "i don't blame you. i blame the people that ran the united states, and i blame their trade representatives. frankly, i blame our presidents." because that should have never happened. we have been losing, for years, close to $800 billion. not million, 800 million is a lot. we have been losing $800 billion on trade.

$800 billion. we are going to stop that. and we have already started. we have a meeting tonight at 5:00 with the top people from china, and we will let you know what happens pay thank you all very much. [applause] >> reporter: what do you to those -- do you worry it will hurt your reelection? >> president trump: it's interesting, puerto rico -- just so you understand, we give them $91 billion for the hurricane. that is the largest amount of money ever given to any state. talking about states, puerto rico, little different. $91 billion. texas got $30 billion. florida got $12 billion. puerto rico got $91 billion. so i think the people of puerto rico should really, like president trump. that money was given by

congress. but they've got $91 billion. you remember how big the hurricane was in texas. the largest water dump in the history of our country, they said. three times. it went in, it went out, it went in. texas got $30 billion. florida got actually anywhere between $9,000,000,000.12 billion. puerto rico got 91 billion dollars in of the democrats are trying to hold up the money. from georgia, from south carolina, from alabama, from florida. they are to hold it. they are holding florida. what they're doing doing to north carolina, to louisiana. they are trying to hold relief aid because puerto rico, which got $91 billion, have to love their president. they want to get puerto rico more money. they are willing to sacrifice georgia, alabama, north carolina, south carolina, florida, louisiana. and other states. the democrats are doing that.

they are very divisive people. thank you very much. >> harris: i always like to watch the president leave the room, because as you just saw, he was on his way out and came right back to answer that question about aid for puerto rico following that massive hurricane that hit. i want to go live now to chief white house correspondent john roberts and kind of break down some of what has been set over the last 40 minutes or so, john. can we start with puerto rico and the historic amounts of cash now that are being handed out according to the president, after vicious storms have hit that territory and also the states like texas in this country? >> this is something the president talked about last night when he was at that rally in panama city beach, harris. in fact, he brought a chart with him showing the amounts of money that were given to puerto rico as opposed to relief for other hurricanes. the numbers from puerto rico were substantially higher than

texas, florida, alabama, georgia, places like that. let's also not forget that puerto rico is an island. getting relief supplies and emergency supplies out to puerto rico is a lot more expensive than it is getting them down to the southern united states. the contiguous united states. the infrastructure in puerto rico was old to begin with. it was utterly and completely devastated. so you would expect that in order to get that much aid to an island nation, that was devastated as badly as puerto rico was, that it would likely cost you more than it would to get the same type of relief down to a state that was contiguous with the other 47 states. >> harris: john, the president covered a lot of ground there in that q&a after his medical bill legislation that he was talking about rolling out to protect people from those surprise bills that they get in the mail after medical care. so that is where we started today. but he talked about attorney general barr.

he used, i think new lingo. i picked up on him calling bob mueller, with the investigation now, "his judge." that's an interesting bit of lingo. "he's judging me now." he talked about the 18 angry democrats, the nearly $40 million spent on investigating him. he says to no end. no collusion. >> he talked about that in the context of, "bob mueller doesn't like trump very much." he also called the report "the bible," when he was referring to his son, don jr., and the subpoena we learned about yesterday that has been given to don jr. by the senate intelligence committee asking him to come back. i could go into a lot more depth about that if you would like me to in a second, harris. because i spoke at length with a source close to don jr. on this idea of mueller and then the barr contempt, the president has said in the past, in a tweet, that he does not believe bob mueller should go up and testify before congress.

he thinks congress is looking for a do over. they've got the mueller report. what more could they learn from mueller being there? he's leaving it in bill barr's hands, whether or not mueller would testify. at the same time, bill barr is facing a likely vote in the full house of representatives to be held in contempt of congress. so there is a lot for the president to chew on there. no question about it. >> melissa: john, you mentioned don jr. and that did come up as one of the big topics of the day. talk to us a little bit about your take on what he said about that. viggo yeah. okay, the president clearly -- i mean, he wants to protect his son. what father wouldn't? he is right in saying that don jr. did go up to capitol hill and testify for 20 some odd hours for three separate committees. another senate intelligence committee has issued a subpoena for him to come back again. this whole thing has been going on for, we are told by multiple sources, for several weeks now.

the senate intelligence committee invited him to come back and talk to them. it seems that what they wanted to do with talk to him about ten or 12 subjects, including the trump tower meeting, including what he knew about the trump tower moscow project, in order to see if what they had been told before lines up with what michael cohen had told them and what he might have to say about it now. but they couldn't come to an accommodation. he suggested, don jr. said, "i could give you some more information in writing. maybe come back for an hour or in an hour and a half." the committee, i'm told, said, "this is an open-ended commitment, we want to talk to you about a lot of things. you could be here for hours." and he decided he didn't want to do that. but he still trying to reach an accommodation. they are still trying to reach an accommodation with the intelligence committee to see if they can come to some sort of an agreement. they will get some information and it may be an in person interview. but not something open-ended. he has already testified for nine hours before the senate intelligence. >> melissa: what you make of

the fact that the head is a republican? >> it's really weird. [laughter] the president thought it was weird, as well. mitch mcconnell said, "mueller report, case closed, let's move on," and richard burke concurs with mark warner of virginia to say, "not only do we need to act on junior to come up here and talk to us, if he doesn't agree, we are going to issue a subpoena." it's very odd. i think the president said it was odd. you would probably find a lot of republicans who think it is. >> melissa: john roberts, you are fantastic. thank you for your help. more "outnumbered" in just a moment. a home, and need cash? you should know about the newday va home loan for veterans. it lets you borrow up to 100 percent of your home's value. the newday va loan lets you refinance your mortgages, consolidate your credit card debt, put cash in the bank, and lower your payments over 600 dollars a month. call today. and get the financial peace of mind every veteran deserves. go to newdayusa.com,

or call 1-877-806-8332. [outdoor♪ambiance] hi, mrs. gorman. hey, theo. police radio: i have the stolen vehicle in sight. [police siren] ♪ [police siren] ♪ [police siren] police radio: onstar, it's safe to slow it down. ♪ onstar advisor: mr. grantham, this is onstar. onstar advisor: the police have your vehicle. mr. grantham: thank you so much. the pain and swelling.. the psoriasis. cosentyx treats more than just the joint pain of active psoriatic arthritis. it even helps stop further joint damage. don't use if you're allergic to cosentyx. before starting, get checked for tuberculosis. an increased risk of infections and lowered ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor about an infection or symptoms, if your inflammatory bowel disease symptoms develop or worsen, or if you've had a vaccine or plan to. serious allergic reactions may occur.

get real relief, with cosentyx. who used expedia to book the hotel that led to the ride ♪ which took them to the place where they discovered that sometimes a little down time can lift you right up. ♪ flights, hotels, cars, activities. expedia. everything you need to go.

but allstate actually helps you drive safely... with drivewise. it lets you know when you go too fast... ...and brake too hard. with feedback to help you drive safer. giving you the power to actually lower your cost. unfortunately, it can't do anything about that. now that you know the truth... are you in good hands? >> melissa: think the david asman. there were so important words on trade there. president trump same immunity sticking off at 5:00 p.m. today. >> david: we were monitoring the dow jones industrial average, which was improving a little bit as he was talking about it. >> dagen: the markets did tear their losses, but they are on track for the largest losing

streak since early march. the threat of these 25% tariffs as rattling investors for sure. >> david: i think it is, but we are going to be okay. >> melissa: come watch the market closed at 4:00 p.m. on fox business. watch david at five. but now here's harris. >> harris: let's pick up at the breaking news. president trump fired him right fire] special counsel just in the last few minutes. we've been showing it to life. he responded for the very first time to his son becoming target of a congressional subpoena. the senate intelligence committee subpoenaing him. "outnumbered overtime" now, i'm harris faulkner. moments ago at the white house we watched as president trump lashed out at the mueller investigation mueller investigation. accusing the special counsel, bob mueller, of having conflicts of interest. this, as he says he is surprised that don jr. was subpoenaed by the senate intelligence committee. and that mueller totally exonerated his son. watch. >> my son was totally e