together, hand-in-hand. perseverance, support from one another. truly inspiring. by the way, i run the pittsburgh marathon and i thought i was going to die. i did. i wish i had someone to hold my hand. most-watched, most grateful, most happy you spent the evening with us. good night from washington. i'm shannon bream. ♪ >> tucker: good evening, welcomer: to "tucker carlson tonight." yet another mass shooting took place this week, this one on tuesday at a stem school in highlands ranch, colorado. one student was murdered, and eight more were injured before the two shooters were captured, and it was brought to a halt. the whole thing was horrifying for the victims and their families. but for others, it was an opportunity to push a partisan agenda for gun control, and when they tried to do that, they didn't get exactly what they expected. interesting story. trace gallagher joins us with the details tonight. trace? >> this was paying tribute toh 18-year-old kendrick castillo,ig the 18-year-old hero who was killed trying to tackle one of those shooters.

but instead of a vigil, it became a rally for gun control. >> we did not hold our elected officials accountable. if they were loosening the sensible gun regulations that would keep us w safe. instead, we chose to burden our youth with the responsibility of saving their own lives. >> and then after senator michael bennet and colorado democratic congressman jasonic crow spoke, a large group of students and parents stormed out of the event, saying their grief was politicized, and many students who walked out were reportedly chanting "mental health, mental health." other students said, "this was not a vigil, this was a political stunt. this is not what we wanted for kendrick." later, after another gun control activist spoke, some students who left came back to the event to show their frustration. listen. >> let him speak. [applause]

>> let him speak. those who organized the visual, or rally, issued an apology, "deeply sorry any part of this vigil did not provide the posupport, caring, and sense of community we sought to foster and facilitate and which we know is so crucial to communities who suffer the trauma of gun violence." some students were finally allowed to speak. one said, "we cannot be used for gun control. we are people, not a statement." tucker? >> tucker: trace gallagher, thanks a lot for that. as you heard, it wasn't just gun control activists who came to colorado to push an agenda after the tragedy. politicians were there, drawn to the scene as they always are. congressman jason crow and senator michael bennet both democrats attended thech prayer vigil. they were not there to pray, instead to belittle prayer. instead hold a campaign rally. here isd part of it. >> you already have my thoughts

and prayers, but you deserve and should demand more. because to only send thoughts and prayers when you are a member of congress, when you are in a position to take action and affect change, it is empty, it is hollow, and you and your children deserve more. >> our kids already have enough to do. their job is not to fix america's broken gun laws. >> tucker: what vultures these people are. for the politicians, devastated children, grieving families were just political props they could use to increase their own power at the expense of other people's freedom. that is their reaction to every problem and every tragedy. have been stopped if you have given me more power. in reality,pp washington has ben getting more and more power for decades and has not been making our kids happier or healthier. guns have been part of american life since day one. school shootings have only been routine within our lifetimes. there are a lot of possible

explanations for this, they don't seem to be talking what any of them. the kids in colorado were. you heard the chant "mental health." they are right. it is not just saying mental health care. it's also asking, why do we needed? why do so many kids have more mental health problems? it's real, it's measurable. it is being measured, not addressed. teen depression has risen dramatically, as has teen suicide between 2008 and 2017, they are connected, of course. the percentage of adolescents with depression symptoms rose 52% among kids 15 to 24. suicides are up almost 50%. that's a horrifying number. no one mentions it. millions of children are on drugs for adhd, anxiety, other mental health problems. but why? what is driving this? the breakdown of a family? is it too much screen time? something in the food? we don't really know, that is the actual tragedy. as long as our leaders'

preferred response to this tragedy is opportunism, we never will know. jason nichols is a professor at the university of maryland and joins us tonight.s thank you for coming on. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: i'm not interested in another gun control debate.k i want to have a sincere conversation about this. bless these kids to raise a deeper issue than gun confiscation. that's issue of mental health. why don't we have a national conversation about teen depression, teen suicide rates, when the numbers are this stark? >> i think we absolutely need to have that conversation. i'm a big advocate of having mental health services in all schools, at all levels. i think that is really important. the one thing i do want to make an appeal to your audience is when students are saying they are hurting, when they are saying they are in pain, one of the things we have seen from the rightfr is calling them snowflakes, calling them weak. allow the students to feel pain -- >> tucker: i'm not saying that.

>> i'm not saying you are saying that, but there are people who say those kind of things, and it is troubling to me. i think wewe do need health car, we do need to have a conversation about mental health. >> tucker: i agree, and maybe -- i'm open-minded. here's what i object to. i object to the vultures, the politicians, swooping in immediately and using other people's pain to gin up votes, using kids to do that. chris murphy of connecticut, one of the most shameless members in the senate, said this, "you cannot accept the premise that there is any waiting period after a tragedy to start engaging in political action." so if you don't pause at all between the tragedy and calling for some new law, it is not even possible to have a conversation, if you behave that way, is it? >> i agree. i will say this. i believe that these kids needed an opportunity to grieve. >> tucker: yeah. >> they needed an opportunity to talk about their friend who gave

his life, kendrick castillo. that is something that needed to happen, before you even talk, necessarily, about causation, which includes mental health. >> tucker: i agree. >> people were screaming mental health, others were screaming gun control. they needed a moment to just grieve. families didn't need to hear any of that. >> tucker: it is a totally fair point, and it is always the adults that swoop in with the agenda, weaponizing the kids, kids who are in pain, and they say to the kids, your pain will go away if you just climb aboard my pet issue. why don't we say to those adults: back off, creep. you should not be allowed to do this to children. >> i agree. there are times when students, after they have had the opportunity to grieve, they start being active in theirft communities. the parkland kids, they hadt their ideas about how to make their community safer.

i praise them because they took action on what they thought was right. i do thinkas that you do need at least a little bit of time. >> tucker: yeah, yeah, i would! i think any person would. >> and the prayer vigil is the wrong venue to talk politics. >> tucker: also we shouldn't be belittling prayer, which is totally real, and its effects are real, i can just say. really quick, i can't resist asking since you are a professor of african-american studies. there are a lot of kids getting killed in thisan country, all te time, and they get no publicity at all. chicago gets a lot of attention, but pick a city, bridgeport, bhartford, since we have senator murphy on the screen. new orleans. pick a place where you have poor people, often it's an african-american neighborhood, kids are getting killed, and politicians almost never show up and give speeches when that happens. why is that? >> again, this is probably going to anger your audience, but i don't really care about that.

that is because, in many people's imaginations, black lives do not hold the same value.s, >> tucker: apparently that is right. where is eric swalwell, chris murphy, where are the people you just saw, senator bennet, where are they? w >> i agree, they need to be there. that is not to say that no politicians show up. i know local politicians throughout my area who show up when there is a tragedy, but at the same time, let me just say,w "black lives matter" should not be a controversial statement. >> tucker: that's never been a controversial statement. to me, all lives matter.a that shouldn't be controversial -- >> that is a retort. >> tucker: it's an observation. god created all people, and they have equal value before him. >> not in the eyes of people in power and our politicians. >> tucker: yeah, where is senator bennet?th we should call him and ask. professor, great toou see you. >> thanks so much. >> tucker: the mueller report ended the russia collusion conspiracy. why haven't republicans in the

senate gotten the memo? huh. where is mitch mcconnell on that question? lara trump joins us after the break to tell us. maybe she knows. ♪st break to tell us.

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getting is public relations awards, because most of the time, that is what they are, dedicated p.r. servants to the dnc. repeating the talking points faithfully and verbatim. you've seen it day after day, democrats say they believe illegal immigrants are actually undocumented, and within a couple ofil days, that is the oy acceptable word in the media. this week, they have a brand-new talking point.t. we like keep track of this because it is amusing and also helpful if you are watching at home. the dnc hashi met at the president, so according to the press we have a... constitutional crisis. watch. >> we've talked for a long time about approaching a constitutional crisis. we are now in it. we are now in a constitutional crisis. >> i do believe we have now entered that constitutional crisis. >> full-scale assault on congress meant to instigate a constitutional crisis. >> we are facing a constitutional crisis.l >> isn't that the definition of a constitutional crisis?

>> president trump appears to be heading toward a constitutional crisis as he continues to hide the mueller report. >> president trump is pursuing a stone wall strategy when it comes to congress. according to a constitutional crisis. >> this administration wants to have a constitutional crisis because they do not respect the oath of office that they take. >> ever wonder what a constitutional crisis looks like? open your eyes. >> tucker: don lemon, always the last to know, but most excited to know. good job, everybody! definitely enough to justify another round of free speech next year. the russiare collusion conspiray is dead courtesy of robert mueller, but like a zombie, it keeps moving forward, drawing all of washington's attention.r, on both sides, by the way, not just democrats involved in keeping this hoax alive. the senate intelligence committee led by a republican, richard burr of north carolina, has sent a subpoena to

donald trump jr. trump jr. has already testified before the committee once last year, at great length. what is the point of this?do a lot's going on in washington, yet the hoax continued in the u.s. senate. lara trump is donald trump jr.'s sister-in-law, senior advisor to president trump's 2020 reelection campaign, and joins us tonight. lara trump, thank you for coming on. >> thank you, great to be with you. my first time on your show. >> tucker: we are happy you are here. this is a genuinely baffling story, i would say. this afternoon, richard blumenthal, senator from connecticut, said if your brother-in-law doesn't comply with the subpoena andr- come to testify before the committee, "he ought to be put in jail. prison is the only answer." what is going on here, do you think? >> it is really confusing to a lot of people, to the point you just made, this is over. the mueller report is complete. we know that what it was started to do, to show whether or not the trump campaign and the president colluded with russia has been solved. we know that did not happen.

whatever they think they are going to do is not going to change that. it is not going to make hillary clinton the president oo the united states, like i know they all wanted so badly for so long. unfortunately,y, this is just me of the same, tucker. this is harassment of our family, harassment of the president. and it's a shame, because the american people send these folkt in congress to washington, d.c., to make great changes in our country, to do things they want to see happen. they are doing nothing! what is this doing for our country? it is nonsense. they need to focus on things americans care about. nobody cares about this, it is over, it is dead. >> tucker: that is a fair summation. i think you'res, factually icorrect. by the t way, i believe your n.brother-in-law has offered to respond to any questions the committee has in writing, but they are demanding he come in in person, which underscores the point you made. here is the confusing part: the senate is controlled by republicans. mitch mcconnell is the senate majority leader. he appointed senator burr to this committee.

it is really a question of mitch mcconnell. why would he allow this, do you think? >> that is very confusing. it seems like he is pretty upset by this. as a native north carolinian, i am shocked and appalled that somebody from, a republican from my home state, would do something as crazy as this. i'm not sure what the strategy is. don has gone in and testified for dozens of hours, and told him everything he knows. which is very little. there was such a short span of time, this one conversation took place. i don't know what they think is going to happen what, what they think they're going to get out of this. truly, the country is sick and tired of this. our family has complied in every way we possibly can, and they still won't leave anybody alone. it is really sad, but listen, if i were don, i certainly wouldn't go in there. he's done his part, done what he needed to do, and this isld just more harassment.

>> tucker: and you've got to think either burr will come to his senses or mcconnell will. no reason, right before a presidential election, the republican party ought to attack itself over something that is literally irrelevant. let me just ask you this, though. it's one thing to have people dislike the policies your family supports, that is a political difference. but over two years, your family has been called traitors, colluders with a hostile foreign power, russia. that's a different thing. what is that like? >> it isis certainly not easy wn you know it is not true, when you know you are a good person, the president is a great person, our entire family is comprised of great people who have always followed the law and always donl the right thing. and listen, the president's life is a lot tougher now as the president than it ever would have been before. he had a great life, and he became the president and is putting himself under constant attack every day because he loves this country. and to his credit, despite the constant negativity, despite the obstruction, despite everything

thrown at him, every single day, look at where we are in this country. look at the accomplishments of this president in his first two and a half years in office. tucker, it is incredible to see where our economy is, lowest unemployment in the history of this country, leveling the playing field with trade across the world, putting americans back to work, manufacturing jobs back -- we can go on all day.. that is with all he has had ton deal with. imagine what he could accomplish if everyone got together and said, you know what, instead of playing politics, we want to do the right thing for the american people. butan kudos to the president, because he has done a great job despite the fact they tried toth stop him at every single turn. >> tucker: especially the russia stuff, it is just too stupid. lara trump, great to see you. it was great to have you tonight. >> thank you very much. >> tucker: odds are you don't get free medical care, but under president joe biden, illegal immigrants will, and you will pay for it. that is your obligation, biden says so.

details ahead. plus, amazon makes tens of billions, but currently pays no federal income taxes. probably unlike you. andrew yang has a plan to change that, and will share with usdr that plan right after the break. ♪ (male announcer) get huge savings on clothing for the outdoors

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what does it take to let them know that we stand behind them, wherever they are? what does it take to bridge the distance and keep them connected to family, home and country? and what does it take to prepare them for their future, when their service to the nation is complete? what does it take to strengthen our service members so they can be the greatest force for good in the world? it takes a force . be a force behind the forces. share a message today at force dot uso dot org. >> tucker: during a recent visit to los angeles, joe biden, running for president for the third time, let the rest of the country know that americans have a moral obligation to give free health care to illegal aliens.ha

watch. >> look, ith think that anyone o is in a situation where they are in need of health care, regardless of whether they are documented or undocumented, we have an obligation to see they are cared for.f that is why i think we need more clinics around the country. >> tucker: uh-huh. how many more clinics? we don't know because we have no idea how many illegal immigrants, could be 10 million, 20 million, 30 million, 40 million, we literally have no idea. all of them need free, unlimited health care that you are required to pay for. by the way, says joe biden, we need more immigrants. as many as possible. not quite as enthusiastic as americans who are born here, but very firm on their obligation to pay for all of this. melissa francis is the cohost of "outnumbered." hosts "after the bell" on fox business. a great and smart person, always honored to have her on the show. you are a math person. does the math work on this?

>> no. the math doesn't work at all. but let me start with why this is a very cruel policy, because you have -- picture the mother in nicaragua, guatemala, and they are thinking, is it worth making this journey? is it worth taking my child, risking my life, paying a coyote $7,000, whatever it costs these days. "the new york times" has done terrific reporting recently on what it is like to make this journey. there was an article called "we pay with our bodies," and even though they paid, these women were raped. it is almost inevitable along the way. another enticement, once i get through to the other side, if i survive, there will be medical care free waiting for me. you are adding to the magnet. and the cost-benefit analysis. on the one hand, it is supposed to be so compassionate, it is not. they talk about sending money to these countries in central and south america thatat people are fleeing.ey

how about not adding on to the magnet up here before we solve the rest of their problems? you make a point of the math, which is absolutely right, but much more boring and less emotional. that is what math people do. the truth is, if you have open borders, you can't have liberal, give away everything, social welfare policies. we can't afford it. you can either slam the door and give away everything, make it a freebie state, or you can open borders and have to make people pay for stuff. otherwise, even if you confiscate all of the wealth of all of the billionaires in this country, it is not going to pay for free health care for everybody. >> tucker: that is the point that is worth reiterating every day. if you want a welfare state, and a lot of people do, not just liberals, a lot of republicans want one, they p want free health care -- you can't have open borders, period. >> the math absolutely does not work out, even if you tax everyone tobs death, there is nt

enough money. >> tucker: no, totally, totally true. melissa francis, thank you. >> we solved it! >> tucker: you went to harvard!ci >> in spite of that, i solved it, yes. >> tucker: good to see you. >> you too. >> tucker: last year, amazon, the company, made $11 billion in profit. that is one-third of the gdp of the entire state of vermont. it is a ton of money. but remarkably, amazon did not pay a single dime of federal income tax, and they are not alone. dozens of possible corporations pay nothing in federal income taxes this year. delta air lines, chevron, gm, more. some are even getting tax rebates they can apply later. it is a weird system we have. our tax code is broken, but almost no one is saying anything aboutav it. democratic presidential candidate andrew yang is.s. he has a plan he said would change it. we talked to him about his plann a little while ago. >> tucker: so you make the case that these companies, take

amazon, but it could be chevron, gm, are profitable because of the investment taxpayers hava in part given to them and they are given nothing in return. how are we fixing this? >> amazon is the most egregious example.az they are soaking up $20 billion in business and causing 30% of american malls and stores to close, and taxpayers see zero in return. if you look at what other advanced economies have done, they figured this out. look, we need to have a ismechanism in place that amazon is going to pay its fair share, along with netflix and the other companies that are paying zero in taxes. they've adopted a value-added tax, where then, the american people would get a tiny slice of every amazon sale, google search, on and on, very tough for companies to get out of an added-value tax system. >> tucker: why don't we have that? >> great question.or people have advocated for it for

quite some time, and my campaign is advocating and championing it right now. we need to wise up that companies like amazon are very smart and moving their earnings through places likee ireland,s where the american taxpayer will see none of it. where the value-added tax makes it impossible for them to sell to us without paying into our society their fair share. >> tucker: you mentioned the other costs that are often not recorded, that stem from amazon's business model, the bankruptcy of countless american business. there is also the fact they basically subsidized their labor costs using our social services. what is the cost of that, do you think? >> it is in the billions or tens of billions. there was one instance where mcdonald's was sending its people instructions as to how to file for various socialin services. you are right, our social programs have been subsidizing the low-wage patterns of manyy these employers. >> tucker: so why are you the only candidate who is thinking

through what to do about this? do you think it's kind of weird? >> i think it is weird. all you have to do is look at other countries, other advanced economies have figured it out, and we are the only advanced economy that does not have a value-added tax in place. we need to make sure the american people are actually seeing some of the gains from the incredible innovation and value that companies like amazon and salesforce, netflix, all of whom paid zero in taxes last year, are getting away with. and they are doing their job, to pay as little in taxes as possible..y we have to do our job, make sure the american people see our fair share. >> tucker: just to argue the other side for a second, that would presumably increase the cost of american consumers of goods? >> in some ways, companies will find cost efficiency or eat part of it, but that is one reason my campaign wants to take that money we are gettinggn from the added-value tax and return it to

the american people in the form of a dividend. that is the most direct way we can have the american people benefit. the fear is that even if we do end up increasing the tax rate on some of these companies, the american people won't benefit from t that. >> tucker: because that money will be swallowed by our political machine somehow? >> yeah, it will go into thee giant pipes of d.c., never to ba seen or heard from again. the goal is to make sure thatip doesn't happen by putting those economic resources directly to the american people. >> tucker: wouldn't that be bad for those of us whotl live n the district of columbia and own property here? wouldn't it be better for us if we could hoard all of the money? >> i have a feeling all of you would be fine. [laughs] washington, d.c., i believe the highest per capita income in the country at this point. i've a feeling the boutique restaurants will have plenty of business. >> tucker: because we are making innovative products the world wants to buy. no, sorry, we're taking the money and hoarding it. andrew yang, one of the most

interesting people running for president. >> thank you, tucker.an see you soon. >> tucker: see you. republicans in washington agree that we ought to be able to launch wars in other country without congressional t approva. why do they not agree we can secure our border without congressional approval? ah, a mystery. we will solve it after the break. ♪ ♪ [upbeat drums]

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>> tucker: about a year ago, president trump ordered a missile strike on syria. it was in response to the supposed use of chemical weapons by theth government of bashar al-assad in the civil war there in syria. it was never clear how attacking syria was in america's national interest. we weren't at war with the country. we have no reason to be. the secretary of defense at the time, general mattis, argued such a strike we need congressional approval to be legal. the president launched missiles anyway, without a vote in congress, and almost unanimously, republicans in washingtonwa backed him and bacd

the attack. presidents ought to be allowed to take decisive action, they argued, congress should not get in the way. that was their position. if the president announced another missile strike against syria, libya, pick a country, they would say the same thing. when it comes to finding pointless wars in far-off countries, republicans believe the president should do whatever he sees fit. what is interesting, though, is how dramatically their view changes when there is a threat to the united states. case in point, two months ago, president trump responded to the worsening situation on our southern border by declaring a national emergency in order to get funds for the wall on the southern border. how did congress respond to that request? it was very interesting. the veryal same republicans who defended the unauthorized syria strike suddenly sounded very concerned about process. they said our constitution would be imperiled if the president acted unilaterally to protect our borders without first

getting a vote in congress. there were 17 of these republicans, nine in the senate and eight in the house. all of them supported the syria bombing, then voted to block the president's executive order to build a wall to protect america. senator roger wicker was one of them. wicker came on this show a y yer ago, you can look it up, and enthusiastically defended the strikes against syria. yet, in march, faced with the prospect of securing his own country, mr. wicker solemnly explained an emergency border wall would devastate "the constitutional principle of checks and balances." huh. he represents the state of mississippi. what percentage of his voters could possibly agree with this standard? 10%? probably too high an estimate.d probably more like 2% agree with roger wicker on this. yet somehow, wicker still holds his senate seat. how is that? people are starting to figuree out the scam that is neo-conservativism. one news account this week explained that president trump has begun to wonder about his

national security advisor, john bolton. bolton, you'll remember, led the cheering for the iraq invasion in 2003, supported the overthrow of qaddafi in libya a couple of years ago, pushed for strikes on iran and north korea. he called russia's actions in the united states in 2016 an act of war, he agreed with bill kristol on that. he has advocated for regime change in venezuela, cuba, nicaragua. trump, of course, ran against all of that. apparently the president has told people around him this week that john bolton wants to get him "into a war." we are not in the habit of fact-checking other people's news stories, but in this case, we can confirm that conclusively. yes, mr. president, john bolton does want to get you into a war. it is all he wants. it is what he dreams about. many wars, if possible. and if you are not careful, he will do it. well, democrats in denver just

decriminalized hallucinogenic mushrooms, but in washington, they are trying to raise the age for smoking cigarettes. how does that make sense? mark steyn will explain it. but first, time for "final exam." can you beat our news experts at remembering what happened the past seven days? you'll find out in a moment. ♪ so...you're stuck in the vicious cycle of credit card payments? it's time to get a personal loan from sofi. borrow up to $100k, and pay us back with one monthly payment... and no fees. ♪

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♪ ♪ >> tucker: time now for "final exam," where we corral two of the smartest people in washington, d.c., really the united states, to see who has been paying attention to the news the last seven days. university of maryland professor jason nichols won last week. his challenger tonight, kathryn lyons. we are happy to have them both.

you know the rules, but i will repeat them for our audience just tuning in. hands on buzzers, first one who buzzes in gets to answer the question. wait until i finish asking before you answer, that is key. you can answer once i acknowledge you saying your name. every correct answer worth a single point, incorrect answer detracts a point from your total. best-of-five wins. are you ready? >> what does "detract" mean? >> tucker: this is the math of "final exam." it's not neutral. it's like the s.a.t.s. if you get one wrong, we take a point from you, even if it gets negative. you'll see. it's very ugly. ready? okay, first one is multiple-choice, so wait for the options. which 2020 candidate said if you are truly a patriot, you won't mind if he raises your taxes? was it a, mayor pete buttigieg, b, former mayor cory booker, or c, beto o'rourke of texas. kathryn. >> c. >> tucker: beto o'rourke of texas? >> si.

>> tucker: [laughs] too clever for me. was it mr. o'rourke of texas? >> what do you say to someone who says, i'm not crazy about trump, but the economy has gotten so much better, and republicans keep telling me, the democrat nominees are going to raise my taxes. >> we live in a nation of patriotism, what's best for their country. >> tucker: a point has been detracted. >> points don't matter. >> i could win with zero? >> tucker: you could. it's happened before. all right, question two. cke you may have heard there is a new royal baby, his name is archie mountbatten-windsor. what is his middle name? harrison. >> tucker: is it harrison? >> prince harry and meghan markle reveal their royal baby's name today.

the couple will call their firstbornil child archie harrisn mountbatten-windsor. >> tucker: how did you know that? >> i knew archie. >> tucker: i didn't know they had a kid. >> i'm back to zero. >> tucker: back to zero. question three, another multiple-choice. there is a popular picture of a shoe floating around on the internet. some peoples think the shoe is pink and white, others see gray and teal. what was the actual color combination of this shoe? was it a, pick and white, b, gray and teal, or c, purple and blue? katherine lyons. >> it looks pink and white to me. >> tucker: you are going with what you think is obvious. is that really what it is? >> this is great, a photo creating a social media frenzy. look at that picture right there. do you see pink and white or gray and teal? it depends on who you ask. >> what's really going on, they

took a shoe, a sneaker, that is actually pink in the body and has white laces, put in a black background.k >> tucker: the real question, why is this a topic of public conversation? >> yeah. >> tucker: i'm not the deepest person in america, but that seems kind of dumb.. >> looks pink and white to me. >> tucker: question four. the winner of the kentucky derby was called country house. 65-1, the odds against him. declared the winner after the original first place finisher was disqualified from the race for reasons still not obvious to a lot of us.he what was the name of r disqualified horse? >> why aren't you answering? >> go ahead. >> oh, my gosh. >> i knew one answer. >> shoot, hold on. hold on. >> tucker: okay, usually you -- >> i know. um... you're distracting me. >> tucker: five more seconds.

>> oh, maximum security. >> tucker: was it maximum security? >> the kentucky racing commission tonight rejected an appeal by the owners of maximum security -- >> oh! >> tucker: how did you know? >> what do you report on at roll call? >> i love horses. >> tucker: okay, final question, a two-point question. the daily double. >> here we go. >> tucker: here it is. the met gala party took place in new york city. this is the event that reminds us that we really are late rome, the event where celebrities tura up in elaborate costumes and embarrass themselves. singer katy perry came dressed as an unusual object. was she a, a fish tank, b, chandelier, or c, a washing machine? jason nichols. >> a chandelier. >> tucker: was she a chandelier? w

>> you don't have to be the brightest bulb to dress like one. katy perry suited up as a chandelier, all -- >> tucker: holy smokes. that's kind of unexpected. >> i'm thrown off. >> tucker: we now go to the tiebreaker, and typically we have the same question always, but we've used it enough, that is the capital of burkina faso. we have an even tougher one. get ready, here's theit questio: what is the capital of canada? >> ottawa. [bleep]. >> did that count? >> tucker: no, you buzzed in first. >> ottawa. >> come on! >> tucker: oh, ottawa. i thought it was newfoundland. what is it? the judges are saying the capital of canada is ottawa. >> did i just win?

thank you! >> oh, i got robbed! >> that is a buzzer malfunction. >> tucker: you get the coveted erik wemple mug. >> oh, my goodness. >>er that is a buzzer malfuncti. >> tucker: it might be. >> tucker: by the way, you both knew what the capital of canada was? >> i didn't. >> tucker: i didn't, either. >> thank you, jason. >> tucker: thank you both, that was tremendous. that is it for this week's "final t exam." pay attention to the news each week, including the countries contiguous to the united states. we will be right back. ♪ co

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>> tucker: one of the founders of facebook came out with a remarkable suggestion today, his name is chris hughes. he said it is time to break up the company that he helped create. >> do you think facebook is dangerous?

>> i do. i think facebook has become too big. too powerful, because there is no regulatory agency from thee federal government. >> tucker: facebook is in fact dangerous, not just because it is big. in "the new york times" op ed hughes goes on to say that facebook's dominance in social media is giving it a stranglehold on speech. mark zuckerberg, he says, has the unilateral power to "monitor, organize, and centerhe of the conversations of 2 billion people." he has denied an audience to entire publications. he could leak the comments of the entire country ifom he want. he is america's chief censor when america should have no censor at all. regulators ought to give hughes' proposal a serious look, like, tomorrow morning. facebook is of course a much bigger contention to our liberties than russian trolls. denver voters went to the polls on tuesday and they approved a law decriminalizing psilocybin hallucinogenic mushrooms. the timing is kind of funny, though. here in washington brian schatz

has introduced the legal age of smoking cigarettes 21. so if you're keeping track at home, to the left, smoking cigarettes is evil, drugs, fine. author and columnist mark steyn joins us to decode this mystery. great to seeee you, mark. >> good to see you, tucker. >> tucker: so why is cigarette smoking worse than hallucinogenic mushrooms? >> well, it is an odd priority, because for i example, not just tobacco use, but lung cancer rates have declined significantly over the last 25 years or so. whereas overall deaths by drug use have exploded since the beginning of the century. so it becomes -- it is strange to see now that the mogul for marijuana, now medicinal value to so-called magic mushrooms is now the way by which that becomes a fully legal thing.

i think what is interesting to me, tucker, is basically drug use is an american problem. there is a lot of similarities between the sort of license and habits of westerners around the world, but drug use and the explosion of drug use and drug addiction and death by drugs is an american problem. the nearest to america, canada and australia. when you get to all of the social democratic scandinavian countries that bernie sanders professes to admire, they have actually by comparison with america, in some cases a fifth the size of drug use the use of drugs in those countries. so it is sad and rather pathetic that americans that are so addicted to drugs. but it is also interesting, the once traditional habits, like

smoking and drinking, are evermore excoriated the more license we expanded to a far more lethal drugs. >> tucker: so people quit smoking, the country gets fatter and sadder, but this is a great victory somehow. >> yes, and for example, i think, i honestly believe -- i do not like this thing, i think this thing in washington is ridiculous. i basically gave up smoking atth 21. i did it in my teens with pure pressure and because i thought it might impress the chicks. the chicks were not impressed. i was as big as loser with a cigarette in my mouth as i was without one, so i gave it up by 21. but i would prefer to see people have an occasional cigarette use and social drinking as they do in somewhere like france, which has far lower drug use in america. but in my part of the world in northern new hampshire, it is easier to get almost any typeldf drug you want than it is to get

a bottle of beer or a glass of wine. so we don't have social drinking, and instead we have this terrible, pathetic drug use.dr >> tucker: it tells you everything right there. the great mark steyn. thank you. >> thanks a lot, tucker. >> tucker: we are back tomorrow. sean hannity right now. >> sean: great show as always, busy night on "hannity," we are glad you are with us. the democratic party, psycho anti-trump rage, it knows zero bounds. nadler,el pelosi and company wat the attorney general of the united states to actually break the law or they are goingal to hold him in contempt. that is how twisted they have now become. democrats want barr to reveal secret grand jury information from the mueller report or he will face charges from congress. if he did it, it is illegal. it is a federal violation under rule 60 to reveal grand jury information. they are lawmakers, shouldn't they