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>> bill: how does it feel? speech good. mondays are awesome [laughs] >> bill: you had a good line last hour. i said happy monday and you said, "are there any happy mondays?" >> sandra: is there such a thing cost market hope everybody has a happy monday. it's good to be back. we will see you tomorrow. "outnumbered" starts now. >> melissa: fox news alert, the dow jones industrial average down more than 2%. 575 points right now. after china announced it will impose new tariffs on u.s. goods, as retaliation for new u.s. tariffs on their goods. they go into effect june 1st. it's on a variety of goods. it could be 5% to 25%, but overall, $60 billion' worth of goods. we had thought we were close to a deal with china. that's what you're seeing the market react so. but china apparently re-retreated on things they had agreed to before. it had fallen apart for the time being but there is still time
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before these tariffs go into effect, we are told, by washington. in the meantime we will keep a close eye on the markets and we will have much more on china coming up this hour. >> harris: and we come in with this fox news alert, as well. president trump weighing in on the escalating showdown with democrats in the house as the dispute over dozens of subpoenas and multiple investigations of the president are hitting a fever pitch this week. you are watching "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, again, melissa francis. fox news contributor, jessica tarlov. host of "kennedy" on the fox business network, kennedy. and in the center seat, ready to be "outnumbered" but never out worth, brian kilmeade, host a "fox & friends," host of the brian kilmeade radio show. he's never outworked because you on the air like nine hours a day. >> brian: this will be seven but it's what i'm really looking forward to. if you saw me on "fox & friends," i was checking my watch because it was the countdown clock attests to test "outnumbered"! that's what i'm looking forward
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to. see how much is breaking since i left? there's a lot going on. >> harris: that's true. should we scoot? >> brian: i will stay underway. >> harris: oh, please pray let's get to the news. a federal judge is expected to rule tomorrow on whether the president should comply to the subpoena for ten years of his financial records, issued by elijah cummings. the white house also facing another subpoena deadline on friday since for the president's tax returns. from house ways and means chair, richard neal. republicans like house minority leader kevin mccarthy are going after those investigations. >> this is a time where the company though my country wants us to move forward. you've got to move forward. we've got health care, trade, a crisis on our border. the democrats are more interested in subpoenas than solutions. >> harris: president trump tweeted this yesterday -- "ever since the mueller report showed no collusion and no obstruction, the dems have been working overtime to damage me in the republican party by issuing over
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easy demands for documents and testimonies, with no reason." that's all they want to do. don't care about anything else!" at a rally last week the president said all the democrat investigations will help him in 2020. but house intelligence committee chairman adam schiff disputes that. >> that's not going to happen. i don't think this country could survive another four years of a president like this who gets up every day trying to find new and inventive ways to divide us. he doesn't seem to understand that a fundamental aspect of his job is to try and make us a more perfect union. but that's not at all where he's coming from. he's going to be defeated. he has to be defeated, because i don't know how much more of more democratic institutions can take of this kind of attack on the rule of law. >> harris: meanwhile, house judiciary committee chair jerry nadler says there are no immediate plans for robert mueller to testify this week. he has also offered to reenter
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negotiations with bill barr before the procedure house floor vote on contempt. ryan? this is a lot. >> brian: right. [laughter] was that my question? [laughter] adam schiff, it's very rich where he says the president's goal is to divide us. if the president is capable, culpable of dividing us, he is just as culpable. all he does this is division. it's not just his division, because he is an oversight he he wants to investigate. but he has gone out of his way to be an adversary to the president. another thing to keep in mind is the president of the united states is saying, "you're trying to investigate things that happen before i was even a politician. you wonder why i'm defensive? you want to go into my bank records, find out what i did to get to own the buffalo bills. you want donald trump jr. to come back again. you want done again, we give you 30 hours. every lawyer would have said i never should have allowed my counsel to do that. this is what you want to do. you want to take the book, which
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is a best seller, the audiobook, and i want to make the video book a best seller. you want to put the mueller probe onto video." and the president has the audacity to say, "i'd rather you not." >> harris: since you brought up donald trump jr., we want to bring in senator lindsey graham on advice he would give him on a subpoena. watch this. >> if i were donald trump jr., his lawyer, i would tell him that you don't need to go back into this environment anymore. you've been there for hours and hours and hours. nothing being alleged here changes the outcome. i would call in today. >> harris: is of the tricky part? if it doesn't change the outcome, how does this bode for democrats? >> jessica: that is lindsey graham's interpretation. there are a number of people including democrats heading about these committees who feel very different about this. the president tweeted yesterday -- i mean, there were 70 or 80 tweets or something. very low on mother's day tweets.
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he said everyone went in front and talked about bob newly. bob mueller didn't talk to the president. that's one of the key reasons people want to see bob mueller show up on the hill. there is concern from the last of what it will look like if the mueller probe is on video. and you have someone like bob mueller standing up there and explaining why you made the decisions he did, and why where evidence took in. when you think about the fact there are 20 probes right now that are ongoing, where subpoenas are being stymied at the direction of the white house -- from getting down jr., don began, looking at tax returns, ownership, i understand it's a lot. but when you consider how these committees were, when president obama was in office, republicans were in charge and going after various democrats from these things, doesn't seem that old line. when you are trying to get the buffalo bills, we know that the president's finances are incredibly tricky. want to know who he owes money to. what kind of debt is owed.
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>> brian: he was already by forging a public and sprayed he's got the job. 33 it's not about that, it's about how you use the job. you have real delegation staying at prompt electron properties. >> brian: at the hotel. >> jessica: $1.5 million -- >> melissa: i hope you are asking the same questions about joe biden and his family and where they are invested in their private equity fund. i hope you felt the same way about the clintons. >> jessica: want to talk about rudy giuliani and ukraine then? of happy to talk about that. they told us would have here. you think joe biden risked his vice presidency and all of this because his son was on -- >> melissa: the equity fund and the investments of you're with different governments. i'm just saying, if you're so concerned about this with this president, i hope you're equally concerned with everyone else. my managers to immigration immigration, health care. once we find out the president wasn't a russian spy, after that you are like, "can i get on with
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business?" can you actually do the job of the people, people? >> harris: and when you say what you think you know about joe biden, that's why you ask the questions. i don't think anybody knows it. that's when we ask the questions. we are allowed to ask the questions. >> jessica: of course you're allowed to ask, but then -- >> harris: they want to go so far, kennedy, as something called inherent consent. i looked a little bit -- i know about the first kind of contempt, is that like a third, lesser-known? yes, it's very rare. in modern times, to use the constitutional type of contempt that democrats are talking about. why do you think olds is necessary if the evidence is there that adam schiff said was there, of collusion and obstruction? he said he had the evidence. >> kennedy: he's got it. adam schiff absolutely has it. >> harris: well, where is it? >> kennedy: who knows? that's the problem. we are using these institutions. oversight is critical. if the president, regardless of the party, has done something so
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horrific and so abusive, figure what that is and then go after it. don't try and read the pantry hoping that you find an expired can of pork and beans. >> jessica: should they comply with all the subpoenas? that's a fun things out. >> kennedy: here's the thing -- this will happen when democrats are in power, when they assumed the presidency. and if there is a split chamber and republicans have the house. for people sitting on the sidelines, it's absolutely exhausting. i agree with you completely. to go a point further on that, democrats are hyper politicizing all of this, and there is no longer a distinction between politics and policy. policy has gone by the wayside. it's all politics. it's a way for them to not have to work on immigration. there's a great sense of relief. immigration in particular, because democrats could actually
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do that. they could come up with a solution, a list of demands. as you have said many times, let's make a casserole. everybody bring an ingredient to put something in the oven. they don't have to do that as long as they are doing this. they should be compliance and oversight, but he got to pick and choose your battles. >> harris: i want to get this from representative raskin, democrat whom i was paraphrasing before. i think it's important we talk about his word. we know how to arrest people around here. if we need to arrest someone, the house to the houston sergeant-at-arms will know how to do it. i'm not afraid of that. if they can arrest my constituents, we can arrest someone else who is disobeying the law." this almost seems like a blanket -- you could apply it to any particular investigation that they are carrying out. >> brian: first time in 80 years they would be using that ability to arrest people. in a cell that needs to be dusted, imagine, and updated. now that we have cable and may be satellite television, that maybe would be criminal. they have a thing is they will threaten to find peopl $25,000
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if they don't show up. everything to keep in mind, rahm emanuel said something interesting over the beacon. "hey, guys, prioritize." as all these documents, 34 investigations, all these requests. he goes, "you got to work out a priority. you are all in competition with each other nobody's paying attention to you." he wants them to pick out two or three things they want done, and may be to put pressure on the president to do it. but there are so many, it's out of control. it's not his fault he's rich and owns a lot of stuff. >> harris: we've got to run and we will leave it right where we started it. [laughter] with, "it's a lot." >> brian: best question ever. [laughter] >> harris: what to do with facebook? some 2020 democrats are coming out strong against the social media giant. others, not so much. will this be a new litmus test for the party? we will debate it. and the doubt, that's where we started with melissa just moments ago. it's dropping -- it says nearly 600. now it's over that.
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hopes of future democratic president. the president tweeting, "i think china felt they were being beaten so badly in recent negotiations that they may as well wait around for the next election, 2020, to see if they can get lucky and have a democrat win. in which case they would continue to rip off the u.s. for $500 billion a year." in the meantime, top white house economic advisor larry kudlow saying the president is set to meet with the president of china at the g20 summit next month, saying the chinese have to make more concessions before they can reach a deal. >> we don't think the chinese have come far enough. we will wait and see. the talks will continue. the fundamental things. we've said this many times. intellectual property theft has to be fixed. forced technology transfer, and ownership of american companies has to be fixed. cyber interventions have to be fixed. >> melissa: okay. so, kennedy, he went on to say when pressed -- which is
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absolutely true, when you talk about the money that'll be coming into the u.s. coffers in terms of the tariffs, that's american consumer dollars. they're paying that money. the problem i have with that is it's not a binary choice. you are going to pay this money for chinese goods. you can choose not to buy chinese goods. you don't have to buy american goods in exchange. you can buy goods from india, goods from anywhere. >> kennedy: that's a good point. i've been thinking about this a lot. so much of the incentive for manufacturing products in china obviously is because it's cheaper. when you can sell something for a lower cost, you make more money. and you can pass those savings onto consumers who buy more of your stuff. that is the free market at work. this is actually a great time for other countries. they should be spending so much money advertising the turnkey factories that they have, and the quality control. because if american companies know they can go to other countries i know they will have great products, know that they will pay essentially the same
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amount they would in china and it would be just as easy, i think a lot of them would be happy doing that. >> melissa: i recently interviewed someone from an international due diligence company. they were talking about how companies have already put into place they're trying to prayed that they were waiting to see what would happen. and it's taking too long, so they have moved stuff to india, to all different countries, assuming this thing with china isn't going to work out any time soon. this could be a big change in the way the u.s. does business with countries around the world. what do you think? >> jessica: it could be. that's not what we are hearing from larry kudlow right now, and i don't think anyone with trade talks still going on is thinking, "we should be shifting this to focus on what's going on in vietnam." we need to hear from apple where there they would make our phones they paid people will not change the way that they live. i've looked at the reports, goldman sachs released a report. bank of america, merrill lynch. it was called "blue colored blues," talking about the issue
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in the manufacturing sector which was at its peak over the summer. this is the tangible issues not only for americans day-to-day, how much money they have in their pockets, but for the reelection changes for this president that ran specifically on that platform. it's interesting to talk about that, obviously. in the next few weeks, that won't change. people's pocketbooks are getting hurt. soybean farmers are getting completely in this. >> harris: one thing that i would say, that the president does and does well is reaches out to the heads of corporations. i did some digging today to see how apple is being impacted, or potentially. the latest full year, apple attributed nearly 20% of its annual revenue to china. over $51 billion. the head of the list for percentage of revenue from china is qualcomm. that affects the nasdaq heavily today. they get 67%, nearly 66.6%, including hong kong, from china. the workaround had better come quickly for some of these
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companies, because you will start to feel it with the 4% and 5% down on their indices today. >> melissa: i'm so glad you bring up technology. in my mind, this is the crux of this problem. we have been willing to take cheap goods and take cheap labor in exchange for looking the other way as they steal from our technology companies. >> brian: it's got to stop. >> melissa: now you have to have the pain to reset the relationship away from this. >> brian: it's already happening. they say that go pro has moved to guadalajara, mexico. that's one of the keys they have. they're also limiting the number of visas that chinese students can have because they feel some of them, sadly, are doubling as spies. as many as 30 chinese professors have their visas canceled over the past year. the fbi increased scrutiny on chinese researchers. it's already pulling back in anticipation of a relationship that just doesn't work. nor do we have any trust. i will say this, $60 billion, june 1st, there will be a meeting in the 20 shortly. we might have on the schedule
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another round. that might settle down. >> harris: do you think the president needs to -- again, he is known. he is known for picking up the phone and saying, "this is what we are laying out. how can help? come back." so on and so forth. the sea need to tell the country now, "look, this will be a bit of pain right now." and just come clean with it? and say, "this is what we are doing it for." >> kennedy: how do you extend that to the voters in the south in the midwest who don't have a lot of money? >> harris: he can do it. >> kennedy: 60% or more -- >> melissa: but you don't have to. as the consumer, you don't have to. >> kennedy: not every state is a right-2-work state. especially if it's manufacturing. if you are paying your workers $40 an hour plus benefits, how are you going to offer -- >> harris: wouldn't you want to hear that directly question from the men making these decisions? >> kennedy: i would like to hear there's going to be financial stability and free trade and free markets. >> melissa: you don't have to buy from china as a consumer paid you can choose to buy
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>> harris: new moves from the white house and g.o.p. lawmakers pushing for more changes in our immigration policies, as fox news confirms stunning new numbers on the border crisis. apprehensions of the seven already above current 500,000. that is more than the total for each of the past few fiscal years. about 400,000 in 2016, 2018, and 300,000 in 2017. on friday the acting defense secretary, patrick shanahan, transferred $1.5 billion from the pentagon's budget last week to help fund the construction of a border wall. on the white house has announced the president will soon nominate acting secretary to the permanent pentagon chief. brian kilmeade got an exclusive interview with the acting defense secretary and acting homeland security secretary, kevin mcaleenan, during a visit to the border this weekend. watch. >> got ab out from the dod to increase our total capacity so
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we can do both missions effectively. >> in terms of numbers, what have they been asked to do? >> we will do it until the board is secure. we need the facts of the men and women down here being overrun. >> harris: meanwhile, republican senator lindsey graham says he plans to unveil a new reform to help asylum laws. >> we got to perfect storm because of broken laws. if you are from central america, we can't send unaccompanied minors back to central america like you do with mexico and canada. we are going to change that. you can only hold a minor for 20 days, we are going to go to 100 days. most important lay, you can no longer apply for asylum at our border. if you're from central america you have to apply from asylum at a consulate in your country. >> harris: a lot of access to leadership, at a key point as they move those funds over the wall. >> brian: the headline as it used to be a manufactured crisis. i think any sober person -- i think most dragons understand.
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this is a caravan a day. coming all across. i went to mcallen, texas, because that's where the greatest leak is. just picture this in your head. only brought on fire. all you have is one hose. so the firefighters keep working hard but they know they aren't going to do any good, so they can get the fire out but they keep showing up. every day we think about it we talk about, "don't do anything, it's not fair to these men and women. we can't pay them enough to do this and this." i see little kids of bronchitis at the border. 25-year-old cubans coming across because they just left the olympic team. all this is happening because word is out in their countries', harris. they put on 30-second commercials. "this is the time to come to america." >> harris: i'm going to ask you to drill down. he told us a story during the commercial break, and so touched our hearts about what you win this one on one of what particular mom. >> brian: 's mom had a 3-month-old baby in her arm clearly to babies, you can see there is a month. this woman looks like she should be recovering in hospital and says she has been on her feet
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for two or three months. to walk in from honduras. i know most parents say, "if i'm at disney and i don't have it at stroller, this is exhausting." can you imagine doing that every day? they also rode, she said come on the top of trains with the infant to get here. these are people, these are tragic stories, but there is a system. there's a system to apply and get here. most of them cannot apply for a son. they are beating the system. once i get their ticket and wait there 20 days, they have the kid, they go in, they don't have a court date, they are not showing up. >> harris: i would imagine, jessica, there is bipartisan agreement on the kind of journey that brian kilmeade just talked about. >> jessica: absolutely. >> harris: why not turn off the magnets of this broken system? most immediately, and get the gist of the border? we could spend some money doing that. congress is going to have to give up some cash to be able to get some of that done. that's irrespective of the wall. those are the things that help unclog a broken system. >> jessica: i don't think there is an objection to that. you have seen marked a shift in
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the language and rhetoric. from the center dick durbin, he called it a crisis. jeh johnson talk about how we have a three-pronged crisis which also begins in these home countries and cutting each of them are certainly not something that's going to help. i'm interested in what lindsey graham's plan is. >> brian: it's good, it's not what's needed. >> jessica: you might think it's good, but i might not necessarily. >> brian: he wants to give them 100 days. you give them 45 days can we get judges a little bit of one the stomach money and housing, they can do this. >> melissa: it might differ from other people, but when you describe these people coming to our country i don't want them to not come. i just think we can't have an open border and a liberal, social welfare program. when you hear dubai and saying it's our obligation to give these people free health care when they come, i would love if that were possible. >> brian: was not getting it then? >> melissa: we can't afford it. we have a need to welcome people i do have to work and pay taxes, or we need to -- >> harris: it hits the nail on
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the head. it is and that we turn off the ability or our hearts to give it, but it's just not free. as long as were honest about that -- >> kennedy: of course is not. expanding the entitlement state is completely reckless. the medicare fund is going to run out by 2026. that's seven years. you can't have millions of people coming to this country if the entitlement state is a magnet. i don't think it is. the magnet is the economy. what you have is people calling and texting back home and saying -- >> you can't use asylum for that reason. >> kennedy: "where i'm working right now, they have so many openings. come over, come over now." and also it's the time people can get in because congress doesn't want to do anything for this is what we were talking about, at the top of the show. >> jessica: the country is not full no matter what you may have heard. you also can't take $1.5 billion that has been allocated for specific things and move it to the wall because that's what you want to do. >> melissa: i understand the wall is not an immigration policy. i understand that.
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and the fact of the immigration policy is so broken and chaotic, and congress doesn't want to do anything, particular the democrat-controlled house, that's what you have the situation in so many people bum-rushing the board. >> melissa: freshman democrat rashida tlaib sparking controversy of the discussion of the israeli-palestinian consulate during which she referenced the holocaust. watch this. >> it's kind of a calming feeling i tell folks, when i think of the holocaust and the tragedy of the holocaust. the fact that it was my ancestors, palestinians, who lost their land, some lost their lives. their livelihood, the human dignity. their existence, in many ways, has been wiped out. some people's passport. all of it. it was in the name of trying to create a safe haven for jews. >> harris: president trump saying the comments were horrible and highly insensitive, demonstrating a tremendous hatred of israel and the jewish people. the congressman respondent,
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accusing republicans of taking her out of contact. >> harris: dominic "twisting my words to create violent attacks on me will not work. all of you trying to sounds me will fail miserably. i will never allow you to take my words out of context to push your racist and hateful agenda. the truth will always win." enter office releasing a statement saying, "did not in any way praise the holocaust, nor did she say the holocaust itself brought a calming feeling to her." jessica, how did you take your comments? what do you think? >> jessica: i thought she was very clear that she in no way felt calmed by the holocaust. she used the word "tragedy" three words later. if you listen to the whole clip, which i know all of us did, she's very clear about the atrocity that it's a holocaust. there are two things going on here. one, the twisting of her words in that sense. your mind and me of what happened with ilhan omar think some people did something about 9/11 and talking about the reaction to muslims in america. then turning that into that she was in favor of 9/11 and she
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doesn't care. and rashida tlaib's for a one-state solution page talks about policy preferences in line with hamas. that means our difference. it's a violent group, she's not advocating for violence. again, this is the slippery slope. when republicans pounce like that -- and steve scalise, kevin mccarthy, liz cheney -- they take her words out of contact don at context. less people making comments about the israeli-palestinian relationship, it gives them a root to saying, "you just took me out of context. i'm not addressing the rest of it." you have to be careful what you are doing there. >> brian: what the hell is she talking about customer calming feeling customers i listened to everything. she should have said, "it's my fault for not being clear." that was clear? "palestinians gave their land but they shouldn't have --" >> jessica: she's historically inaccurate about palestinians and, but she's clear she didn't feel calm at the murder of
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6 million jews. >> brian: who would ever use "calming effect" thinking of the holocaust customer could ever use that? it's her fault not being clear about one of the most -- >> jessica: it's her publican's fault for trusting that. >> brian: what is twisting about it? >> melissa: calming was probably not a great choice of words. but it seems to me what she was trying to -- she was trying to make the point that palestinians lost something, too. her ancestors lost something, too. >> kennedy: and that's probably her personal history. it's probably what she grew up believing, and she had grandparents the people around her telling her that this is what happened. that they were displaced, they suffered hardship. everyone does that. everyone does it. everyone has their own personal history. some of it is completely made up. look at elizabeth warren. i don't doubt that elizabeth warren truly believed in her heart that she is native american. i don't doubt that. you have generations of people
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who perpetuate that. that's not the problem with rashida tlaib. it's that she does have an implicit bias, that she has to be very careful of. and people like ilhan omar and rashida tlaib who have a tendency to say incendiary things, they can't be surprised when their words are obstructed and shown to the rest of the world as being somehow -- this is what they really believe. when you are a lightning rod like that, you have to be much more careful, emphasize, if you don't want your words taken out of context. >> jessica: but asking for -- >> kennedy: it was really in artful the way she said it. that's on her. the problem is not the people listening, it's the communicato communicator, when you have a message. >> jessica: releasing a statement and respond herself, she was working to clarify. i want to be on the record, i'm not for a one-state solution pay them for a two-state solution. i don't see israel as the provocateurs out there to destroy the lives of arabs. the arab world is united in hating israel as a jewish american come as a person
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who is in support of democracy, i abhor that. she was not in any way unclear about her feelings about what happened to jews during the holocaust and the great tragedy that. >> harris: just like with that in her previous mf remarks about the president. whatever. i somehow question how much of this is necessary for her to make her point. i listened to the entire -- it's a long interview. she talks about growing up in the beautiful, blackest city in america, detroit. she uses that to kind of hold lane with where she is on every issue with diversity, so on and so forth. i sometimes just scratch my head. i don't understand why some of it is necessary to make her point. i understood the question, from the hosts. and i understood why she went down the road of talking about growing up as the only palestinian woman so far in congress. her perspective.
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i get all that. but why use a term that you know is going to be difficult for some to hear because we are all coming at it from our own experiences? she is professional. and a professional speaker. she's got to know how those words hit us. words matter. it isn't to say that she meant anything bad by it. but that word, the word, "mf," there are kids at that rally. i'm just using that as an example. >> jessica: i understand there are many people guilty of using bad language, including the president. >> melissa: i knew you would get that in. [laughs] >> harris: none of it is necessary. >> jessica: she was talking to supporters when she said that. the issue is the policy. it's not any kind of fantasy that rashida tlaib thinks the holocaust was a good thing. >> melissa: secretary of state mike pompeo skipping a planned trip to moscow amid new concerns over rising tensions in the middle east. what message the trump administration may be trying to send to vladimir putin as the
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>> kennedy: secretary of state mike pompeo canceling a planned visit to moscow today. instead, meeting with european allies in brussels to discuss rising tensions with iran. on tuesday, secretary pompeo will meet with russian president putin. that will happen tomorrow. meanwhile, saudi arabia reports that an unnamed adversary attacked two of their oil tankers in the persian gulf. also developing this hour, u.s. b-52 bombers did dell not conducting a deterrence mission in the middle east today as a message to iran. it looks like this hot spot is boiling over, brian. >> brian: keep in mind will happen friday, the secretary of defense put a missile battery into the middle east. but we assume it's qatar, where our intelligence, hard quarters in the area. what we got from iran must be so specific, because for him to blow up germany, blew up greenland -- i don't know what
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he was going to do there -- and flew into iraq to look at our forces can we have to think that they were targeting. they won't tell us. the patriot missiles, and then he continues to talk to our allies in an emergency session. there is something going on and i think there is such a desperation to clamp down and make iran change its behavior between the economic sanctions, everything else that is going. things are coming to a head. they feel like they have to ask. they don't have time anymore. >> kennedy: obviously the united states wants to maintain the alliance with western europe. a lot of those countries have signed off on the iran deal. how do you hold iran accountable but still keep people happy who are hoping that the entire market opens up to them? >> harris: what i've learned recently from a couple different lawmakers have interviewed is that we put in place a pact, if you will, for some of those european countries to do less business with iran. so, yes, they are still in the deal, but the money crunch is on
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now. >> brian: we or them. you want to be with them, fine. you want to be with us, fine. >> harris: exactly paid some stuff to think about it, i would imagine. they will be short ordering something different i'm sure coming up recently, or soon. because we just put tons of dependency in the water. i think when you show that kind of military warfare, everybody wakes up and says, "america can't be in the saloon prayed let's honor that pact. if we are going to be with america, we can't do business with some of these." but there were so quick to do business. >> kennedy: how do you convince germany and france and great britain to stay on board with the u.s. when they are showing more of a militaristic approach to iranian -- >> melissa: i think you have to say, unlike the other issues were talking about and the other people around the world, iran is currently at war with everyone it disagree with swift. every dollar that you send their way, they're using to fund terror, to hurt israel, for all of their purposes around the globe.
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it's different than, say, negotiating with north korea, who you are trying to stop from getting to a level, you have more time with them. with iran, especially from the perspective of israel, it's instant. what's going on right now? you have to step in and do something about it. the five the two hallmarks of the obama presidency -- obamacare and the nuclear deal with iran -- very hard to take ourselves out of. but also very problematic. how do you fix it? >> jessica: i'm interested to see what the european allies can come up with together. president trump, if he wins reelection, it's actually not coming back. a number of the top democratic contenders have said something they do quickly. i think you have to be -- if it satisfies your european allies and get you less funding to terrorism. >> harris: equal to get some of those countries to drop that deal. >> brian: they should have passed the senate. >> kennedy: facebook in the
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>> jessica: 2020 democrats are responding to growing calls from washington to rain and tech companies like facebook. this, after senator elizabeth warren proposed breaking up the social media giant. now senator kamala harris saying she is open to the idea. >> i think facebook has experienced massive growth and has prioritized its growth over the best interests of its consumers, especially on privac privacy. >> jessica: senator cory booker isn't a fan of senator warren's plan, sing it something the current president might do. there's a little back and forth over this over the sunday shows. do you think this is a point of differentiation for cory booker, or is it all -- >> kennedy: i think he's right. it's not the job of the federal government to take a hammer and chisel and crack accompanies as the president sees fit. i don't like when the current president does that and i don't like all this antitrust talk. by the way, elizabeth warren talks about leveling the playing field. the ultimate advantage once has on social is beauty.
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if the government is going to level the playing field, everyone needs free butt implants from the government pre[laughter] >> brian: or at least have a deductible on the butt implants. >> jessica: do you think this was going to be -- >> brian: and for a company being as successful as possible. i guess by they want instagram, i get why they want the waze app. i know what they want to do. it's the number one news feed, and if the number one news feed decides that one point of view doesn't get heard, i have a point of saying i'm a little concerned about that. >> melissa: in the free market you have to vote by going away from them. i have deleted my facebook page. i know so many people have moved away from facebook, as well. for investors it has suddenly become -- there is suddenly news facebook announced they are raising wages to a minimum of $20 per hour in san francisco,
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new york, and d.c. $18 in seattle. they are trying to put out good p.r. they are doing everything they can to try and change the view of facebook because they are under constant fire. i don't think there is any way it goes away. i'm not sure you have to break them up. i just think they will end up killing themselves off. >> kennedy: remember when mark zuckerberg donated $100 million to newark schools? speech he was a >> melissa: which was a nice thing. but it was p.r. when they are getting hammered every second. >> kennedy: hi. >> jessica: hi. we are going to go now. more "outnumbered" in a moment. [laughter] if you're a veteran homeowner and need money for your family, call newday usa. a newday va home loan lets you refinance your home and take out 54,000 dollars or more to pay credit card debt, or just put money in the bank. it even lowers your payments by over 600 dollars a month. as a veteran, you've earned the powerful va home loan benefit that lets you refinance up to
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>> harris: our thanks to brian kilmeade. final thoughts, brian? >> brian: i hope the market comes back. they did a couple times last week. it's been a rough start, and that's all i have. i still have 20 seconds. >> melissa: we are down 681 points. more news out of china.
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that is a very serious sell-off. we'll have to keep an eye on that. come join us at 4:00 p.m. on fox business. we will close the market for you. in the meantime we are back here on the couch at noon eastern tomorrow. here's harris. >> harris: all right, let's take a look now at the market. it's taking a tumble. china is retaliating with tariffs of its own. this is "outnumbered overtime." i'm harris faulkner. the dow, let's put up on the screen. dropping more than 600 points, several times today. nearly 700 at this point. it comes back momentarily, but wow. all of this on news that china will hike tariffs on $60 billion of american made goods after trade talks fell apart. but the president of the united states is warning the chinese that they had better make a deal. chief white house correspondent john roberts has more now from the north lawn. john? >> harris, good afternoon to you. on friday the president announced that tariffs on some $200 billion in chinese goods were g

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