most-watched, most trusted, most grateful you spend your evening with us. good night from washington, i'm shannon bream. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening. welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." the sat how much you knew about academic subjects english and math. the new woke version judges students on their privilege. i want to get your kids into harvard? get divorced and moved into a neighborhood. first tonight, if a man runs for president but nobody supports him, is it really a presidential campaign? that's a philosophical question but it's also suddenly a practical concern for bill de blasio the mayor of new york new york. de blasio announced today after years of destroying n the nation's largest city he would

like to do the same thing to america, watch. >> there is plenty of money in this world and in this country, it's just in the wrong hands. i'm a new yorker, i have known trump as a bully for a long time, this is not news to me or anyone else here and i know how to take them on. donald trump must be stopped, i have beaten him before and i will do it again. i'm bill de blasio and i'm running for president because it's time we put working people first. >> tucker: the spoiler alert, bill de blasio is never going to be president of the united states president of the united states, he's dumb, unpopular, he's almost comically incompetent. he's exactly the kind of person who should not be smoking a lot of marijuana but apparently it is anyway that's bill de blasio. the good news is he's also entertaining if you don't have to live in his city, sit back and enjoyed the buffoonery, there's a lot of it. it began to nail with his announcement video in which he pledged to fight for working

people while being driven by a chauffeur around the streets of new york. even cnn which is been happy to promote transparent phonies like kirsten gillibrand and pete buttigieg was not impressed. >> there's a palpable lack of excitement in the streets of new york. three quarters of new yorkers don't want him tohe run. he is not showing up to work, he doesn't come in at all, he seems utterly disinterested ines the b of running america's largest city. this is somebody who's been underwater often in the polls in a city that is 6-1 democrats. >> i don't have any friends who are excited about bill de blasio for president. >> tucker: if you are bill de blasio, this is gott, to hur. cnn was supposed to be a critical ally in this race, based in new york city and that means its employees know exactly how incompetent theirir mayor i, they have to wade through piles of garbage to get to work every morning. msnbc isis headquartered in new york city too and you could

tell the way they covered de blasio announcement. >> he's not what anyone would call popular in new york, new york. >> in a quinnipiac poll 76% of new yorkers said they do not think you should run for president. >> what do you think about mayor de blasio at running for president? >> i feel like he has a lot of stuff to do in new york city. >> i'm not encouraged by his policies in the city. >> it's about time a woman ran the country. >> i think he should've announced in the first of april. i would've been a good april fools' day joke. >> tucker: if you personally h are excited for a bill de blasio presidency, please let his campaign no, you will likely qualify for a paid staff position. the effort is soon obviously doomed, so why is de blasio running for president? the same reason is running for mayor of new york, narcissism. he represents the worst strain of american liberalism, smug, arrogant, utterly hypocritical

and lacking in self-awareness.no this is the man who announced his own green deal but took a helicopter to theis gym. he sent cops into the subway to shoe homeless people out of the way before he rides it but let's the city drowning trash. he demands you stop eating hot dogs because they are bad but promotes smoking weed. bill de blasio is the only person in new york who has no idea what an idiot bill de blasio is. he's totally mediocre but completely self-confident, an amazing combination. bill de blasio was not going to be president but he will be on television for a while -- our advice? try to stay amused. seth baron covers him for the city journal and he joins us tonight. is there a reservoir of support for the sky anywhere? >> not in new york city but as he's pointed out, many people outside the city are more impressed by him than they are here. that's his excuse.

among the top contenders for the democratic nomination, who among them has as much executive experience as he does? >> tucker:'s it's a fair point, running new york city is very hard, it's an impressive job. >> he's been very racially divisive. his approach to schools has been that the problem is that the schools areno segregated. of course this is not true. the schools are only 15% white. it's hard to understand what he means by saying they are racially segregated. he wants to take apart the best schools in the city, you get into a simple admissions test and he thinks the test needs to be abolished because there aren't enough minorities although they are more than 50% asian. there's been a series of anti-semitic attacks in brooklyn which he has blamed on white

supremacy and president trump, even though everyone knows it's not committed by white supremacists, they are committed by largely black teenagers and in a few cases, an arab taxi driver. he's ethically challenged, he's run city hall like a ticket booth, donors come to file their donations, consultants come to collect them on the other end. yet there are people in two different federal jurisdictions, the eastern and southern districts of new york who are going to prison for bribing bill de blasio or people under him. , this seems pretty serious to mee.

he and his wife both have a very strong marxist path, they honeymoon in castro's cuba, they both have nostalgia for the days when new york was grittier and more authentic in the 70s and 80s. meanwhile he throws his hands up and says the subways which you see right there are filthy, that's not his problem, that's the governor's problem. no mayor in history has been happier to disclaim responsibility for what's going on in the city. he always says if you don't like the subways, talk to the governor. blame it on ronald reagan, thisa is his method. >> tucker: he's a decorative, i'm sorry you have to live there. seth baron, thank you. bill de blasio's presidential campaign starts off haunted by a specter of death. in 2014 he tragically ended the

life of new york's groundhog day groundhog, watchs. this. >> this footage from groundhog day 2014 shows freshly inaugurated mayor bill de blasio appearing to drop staten island chuck, a week after the fumble, he did a few more events before being found in his zoo space deceased on february 9th. >> tucker: he killed thed groundhog. he certainly couldn't be trusted to handle a groundhog. are we ready to put america in his hands? mark steyn has been watching the de blasio since the day he killed that groundhog and he joins us to answer that questio question. >> america isng going to end up like that groundhog if we survive to see a de blasio inauguration or whatever it is january 20th 2021. by the second week in february c we are going to be like that groundhog, staten island chuck. >> tucker: slipping out of his hands under the pavement, doing

a double gainer onto the sidewalk. it's horrible. >> i feel for a staten island chuck because he would do a better job of running the city if he was still alive. the fact is, fumbling the groundhog -- he fumbled the citd and let it fall to the ground and he doesn't care about it. the thing here is the bar for entry in the democratic primaries so low, if you look at de blasio, all his life he's heard that being mayor of new york is the third mostei important position in america, people like mario cuomo were talked about as presidential material. de blasio switches on the tv and he sees the mayor of some town called south bend, indiana, is running for president. south bend, indiana, has 100,000 people -- new york people has 100,000 people who are homeless and that's not an exaggeration.

it has as many homeless people as south bend has nonhomeless peopleo'. from de blasio's point of view, the problem for his campaign is that every single one of those homeless people on the streets of new york is polling higher than de blasio in iowa and new hampshire right now. >> tucker: how can an adult man, i don't know how old is de blasio as he's pushing 60 i think -- how can a man get that old without having anyone around him who is willing to tell the obvious truth that you are not going to be president, the best you can do is humiliate yourself, please stop wise and no one saying that to him? >> that is the essence of presidential politics. i don't like to mock you for that question but it's basically 7,000 people running for president -- none of them have anyone around. beto o'rourke doesn't have anyone around saying don't

reboot your campaign by getting a haircut. the essence is failing upwards. he is presidential material because he lost to mike ted cru cruz. de blasio is presidential material because he's wrecked new york, stacy abrams as everyone preferred running mate because she lost by 50,000 votes in georgia but is going around pretending she hasn't. failure is the critical ingredient for getting in the democratic primary. >> tucker: that is literally true. that shouldn't surprise us in a world that is completely inverted where being a victim is the goal. losing is winning, it's bizarre i wish i understood better. great to see you tonight, thank you. speaking of that worldview, thet company that administers the s.a.t. has a new test, it doesn't measure what you know

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♪ >> tucker: the college board is adding the new score to the s.a.t., it doesn't measure aptitude in reading or grammar or math or any other academic subject, the new category is called an adversity score. it will rate students from 0 to 100 based on how much privilege the college board believes they have. the formula for all of this is the secret, people who came up with it know it's pure pseudoscience and would never

withstand public scrutiny so they are hiding it. according to "the wall street journal" the test will calculate privilege based on 15 different factors. some will draw on neighborhood statistics like crime rate, poverty, home values, a student's high school other factors like estimated curricular vigor and a free lunch rate. then there are factors that look at the student's family, income, whether both parents live at home. this is a pure inversion of the intent of the s.a.t.in from the first day the whole point of the test of the s.a.t. was that your background didn't matter. the s.a.t. was designed to create as level playing field as possible. everyone took the same tests, rating was blind. it didn't matter where you came from, nobody thought it was going to make everyone the same. people are not the same, some people have natural advantages including on standardized tests and always will. you can't change that anymore than you can make everyone tall

enough to play in the nba. what you can do and what you must do is ensure fairness. if everyone ensured to have the same rights, everyone has the same standards and to be held to them in the same way. that is the most basic promise of america. the college board is rejecting this. on the new act it is a debility that matters, it's where you rank on the privilege hierarchy. it's not hard to imagine the perverse effects of this. if you worked hard and stayed married, your kids will be punished for that. david coleman, you won't be surprised to know he's also the genius behind common court. he says the new standards are designed to address the disparities of wealth reflected in the s.a.t., who is going to lose under the system? et al. always loses the middle

class h. work hard, sacrifice for your kids, and he will be rewarded. they know it because you make the rules, they benefit from the corruption of the system. they make up some new heritage so they can benefit from the jim crow system of racial discrimination they have on college campuses. the new s.a.t. will increase the opportunities to game the system. the college board plans to evaluate privilege based on home address. parents already use fake addresses p to send their kids o choice public schools in many cases, whyro won't they use fake addresses from toughge neighborhoods to give their kidy an advantage in college admissions? of course they will. english language proficiency, household income, family education levels, they are all factors too. get ready for lying on those subjects as well. wanted to be easier to reward the kids who know the most about english and math?

that's what you do if you care about fairness, you would emphasize achievement over victimhood. our decadent elites don't care so they do thehe opposite.er we are happy to have her join us tonight, thanks for coming on. the s.a.t. was created to prevent exactly with the new s.a.t. will ensure which is a system where what you came from matters. >> everyone needs to understand is all of this was driven by the seemingly attractive racial achievement gap, everything is a surrogate for that problem. if we could close the racial achievement gap in b the way too that is by changing culture, the whole discourse would go up in a

puff of smoke and we would never hear about this pseudoscientific concept again. the idea that it's privilege that drives s.a.t. scores and academic success generally as opposed to hard work, persistence and self-disciplinee is completely ludicrous. we see every year in new york city that asian kids from poor immigrant backgrounds what everybody's ass regardless of their income levels because their families and parents are so relentlessly focused on their student's academic involvement. that is what is necessary to close the academic achievement gap and until you get rid of the acting white syndrome that stigmatizes academic achievement on the part of black students, unless we get rid of the

preferences that black students know about that sends the message they don't need to work as hard in order to get admitted to highly selective schools with better scores, we aren't going to close that academic achievement gap and we are going to be saddled with this scourge of diversity which is simply a way to dismantle the color-blind meritocratic standards that are a key to any society's success. >> tucker: the guy who runs the college board's who went to prestigious schools and works at mckinsey i noticed, he must know there is not science behind this, there is no peer-reviewed science behind any of this, it's pseudoscience, it's made up. how can someone like that bring this to us with a straight face and act as if it's legitimate to? not. >> it's too bad, the college

board has resisted for decades the charge of the s.a.t. is a function of white privilege but it's not surprising. the only thing surprising is that they held out this long. the fact that he has caved and has now thrown the college board full speed ahead into the excuse making grievance industry is simply what you would expect from anybody involved in higher education in this country. all of this is driven by the fact that there is a standard deviation of difference in the s.a.t. scores between blacks and whites, a difference that is not determined by a family income. according to the journal of blacks and higher education, whites from households that make $10,000 or less on average score better than black students on the s.a.t.s who come from

households making 88 to 88 to $100,000. again, this is all about culture and for the college board to be getting behind the idea that it's about white privilege is completely fallacious and a tragic disservice to the country. >> tucker: it doesn't do i a lot for our society at all. heather mcdonald, great to see you. the left has found its preferred angle on attack in abortion laws on alabama, georgia and elsewhere, and you can guess what it is -- they are racist. "white women uphold the patriarchy and are therefore responsible for georgia's new heartbeat law." she's an out of the closet racist but still taken seriousl seriously. emily medi-cal ski says the loss perpetuates the industrial prison complex by preventing black women from getting abortions, there is are her words not our words. on the left, keeping black

children live as racism, aborting black children is racial justice. matt bevin is the governor of kentucky and recently appealed a federal court decision striking down one of his state laws. thanks very much for coming on. what do you make of this argument? >> it is so empty. when you consider the fact that over 40% of all of the abortions performed in america are the taking of young black lives, that more black children, more blacks period are killed by abortion and crime, accidents, cancer, disease, age, every other cause of death combined does not add up to the number of blacks killed by abortion. for people to come out and say c that somehow racial justice to be able to kill black children before theys are born is a remarkably empty argument and highly offensive too many people like myself.

>> tucker: you say that out loud, you are not embarrassed to say what you just said but so often republicans don't say that, they let this argument go unanswered. t the people encouraging abortion in black neighborhoods are able> to seed the moral high ground, why? >> look where these abortion clinics are established, in minority neighborhoods. they intentionally pray upon minorities, the fact that over 60% of abortions are performed on people of color, everything with margaret sanger wanted. she was eugenicist, she preached eugenics, she wanted to see that certain undesirable people were weeded out of the populace and while they pretend they no longer espouse that, that is exactly what they're doing.y it's offensive and genocidal in many respects but we are all instructed to turn a blind eye. the reason you are seeing all of

this legislation now in states across america is that the more we know medically, the more we know scientifically, the more it is clear that we are killing human beings that do not have any voice and people are appropriately outraged. >> tucker: even now i would argue you hear people justify industrial scale abortion, millions of abortions over the past 40 years -- justify it in ways that suggests they don't think people in poorai neighborhoods ought to have a ton of kids, why is it on a racist argument? >> it's a remarkably racist argument. it's eugenics, they caner coucht in any other term they want. we passed a law in kentucky that said you aren't allowed to kill a child in school based on its race or gender or disability and i was immediately sued by thee aclu. people and planned parenthood think it's inappropriate to be able to defend those who can't

defend themselves. it is highly racist, the abortion industry intentionally targets people off color. this should be an outrage to people but indeed in polite company we are expected to ignore it and pretend thatat its not what it is, blatant racism perpetrated on people who are defenseless. >> tucker: i would love to hear the conversation where you propose legislation or shepherd through legislation that prevents people from committing abortion on the basis of skin color and the a aclu says you can't do that because why? >> the hypocrisy is ranked. we use language from federal laws, civil rights laws and the ada and the americans ofs disabilities act. we are immediately sued by the very people who pretend to be the defenders of that language for people outside the womb. and we know these are human beings, we know they are

being killed. we are wiping out entire generations of people of color in this nation and we are doing it for profit in places like planned parenthood and we are expected to turn a blind eye. myself and governors of other states are fed up with it with it. >> tucker: you have>> every reason to be. thank you very much for that. >> thank you, and happy birthday. >> tucker: even the richest cities in the country are struggling to deal with an upsurge in homelessness so what is a small college town supposed to do when it happens to them? our homeless in america story goes to eugene, oregon, after the break. ♪ it's us. millennials. everyone's favorite. there's just one thing hurting us more than student loans:

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♪ ♪ >> tucker: in the san francisco bay area, the housing crisis has become >> tucker: in the san francisco bay area the housing crisis has become so severe that some have adopted a novel solution, they are living

on boats and not quaint boats or yachts, according to "the wall street journal" 100 people are living on a ragtag flotilla of barges and other vessels the paper describes as decrepit. they aren't all vagrant, one woman bought a boat for 15 grand because rent for studio apartment had grown to $3,000 a month. it might sound like an adventure but it's also third world just like tent camps, those boats are not designed to be lived on permanently. during storms they can endanger lives and cause huge amounts of damage, these flotilla's are illegal but just like exposing housing prices, the bay area government doesn't seem interested in it were serious about fixing it. whether it's san francisco or new york or seattle, when you think of homelessness you think of major cities. the homeless crisis isn't limited to big population centers, some of the hardest hit places are small cities and towns were even a small homeless

population can put massive service. public for the latest installment in our series homeless in america, our producer went to oregon where one small charity is fighting to improve a desperate situation in eugene, watch. >> a first stop wasn't meant to be work-related, it was fordi breakfast in an upscale bakery but when we arrived we found this a homeless man rifling through a trash can the parking lot, a dirty syringe. homeless in portland looks a lot like what we've seen in other cities, lots of tense and lots of drugs. the city's permissive culture, temperate climate, and generous social services attracts vagrants and addicts from around the country. we met a woman called liberty hope who said she came to the west coast because she needed medical treatment for her leukemia. she moved to portland after police in washington state told her motorhome. >> i got out, there was nowhere to go.

i still needed treatment. >> she says she is blessed because the city shovels orer between the medical clinic in her tent, she hopes to get back to her home state of montana once she's healthy again. >> howow long do you think you'l be here?as >> i'm not too sure, i broke my foot this past winter so what set me back with my medical but every day is a miracle. >> similar tent encampments line portland's highways come every open space in the city seems incked with people living outside and using drugs. this riverfront park downtown has a receptacle for used heroin syringes. organizational state by population but it has an awful lot of homeless people, more per capita of the neighboringe washington or california. to get a sense of the scale of the problem we drove to eugene. eugene is a college town with the politics to match, not surprisingly it has an anomalous homeless population. ultimately even the generosity of a place like eugene has limits.

on the night we arrived multiple people were living in this makeshift structure. two days later the city had e.eared the sidewalk and put up notices it was going to scrap the belongings inside. they are trying to get a handle on the homeless problem but there are roadblocks. a ruling by the ninth circuit federal court of appeals it ruled it's unconstitutional to shoo away homeless people if there's no place for them to go. eugene's leaders have responded by trying to erect tent cities on public land, one envisioned building a homeless encampment on the parking lot in the center of downtown, those efforts have failed. a local charity called st. vincent depaul has stepped in with its own solution. >> it's a structure that was used by the military and some of our foreign deployments. >> other cities have tried to provide housing for the homeless, usually at remarkable expense. san jose is a spending $37 million on a building that will house just 83 people.

by contrast st. vincent depaul's answer is simple and cheap. >> we put this section of tense up in one day. >> residents are assigned a bed and given a place to store their belongings, they are expected to make their beds every day. the shelter is open to anyone including drunks and drug users, those whose they get treated fos addiction. the strategy is the opposite of what city like seattle and san francisco are doing. st. vincent depaul's goal is to get people off the streets and into an environment where they might h recover. the housing isn't meant to be permanent. st. vincent depaul tries to get residents cleaned up and ready for long-term housing within just a few months. for many the strategy appears to be working. >> what are the odds and two years are back on the streets? >> if they stay in programs and in association with people who are clean and sober, chances are pretty good they are going to stay off. >> tucker: the homeless crisis

appears to be getting worse everywhere in america. rather than try to fix the problem elites prefer to attack its victims. in the city of seattle one of the places hit hardest by this crisis a woman has faced backlash for seeking justice after she says she was rape by a homeless man with multiple arrest warrants. as our series on homelessness in america continues. it'sng time for a final exam, cn you beat our experts on remembering the weird thing that happens over the past week? this week, jesse watters versus kennedy. hard to know who will win, find out after the break. (male announcer) get huge savings on clothing for the outdoors

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>> tucker: time now for final exam where hardened television professionals compete to see who has paid the closest attention to what happened this past week in the world of strange and obscure news. this week's contestants, two of the smartest people here at fox. kennedy, host of the eponymous lee named "kennedy" and of course you can seeve jesse watts every night at 5:00 on "the five." >> is it all "sportscenter" questions? >> are there any sports topics?o at >> tucker: this is one of those games that doesn't always reward high levels of high-level knowledge. >> you dumbed it down. >> jesse warmed me this is the dumbed down version. >> tucker: hands on the first one who buzzes gets to answer the question you have to wait until i finish asking it.

you can answer once i acknowledge you by saying your name. best-of-five wins. question one, you have to wait until all the options are presented. >> how many options are there? >> tucker: this is new to me too i'm reading it p right up te prompter. we learn the most popular baby names from 2015 for the 50 year in a row is emma, what is the top boy's name? three options. is it a, liam. b, benjamin, c, mason. >> i'm going to go with letter, liam. >> tucker: jesse watters says it liam, is it liam? speak of the social security administration reveals the most popular baby names of 2018. the top five boys names are liam, noah, william, jaden, and

oliver. this is not of a multiple-choice question. it is that spirit of the democratic field of candidates in 2020 just keeps getting baker, steve bullock is the 22nd person to enter the race. he is the governor of which mountainous state. kennedy. >> montana. >> tucker: montana, is it montana? >> you heard the alert, montana governor steve bullock announcing he is running for president. >> you got me, i knew that. >> democratic governor of a state trump won by 20 points. i don't have the luxury of talking to people who agree with me. i'm steve bullock running for president. >> tucker: the grizzly of montana. russian president ofav vladimir putin was waving to admirers the other day when he

fell. what washa he doing that cost tm to over? jesse watters. es>> ice skating. >> tucker: was he ice skating? >> and then there is this. russian president vladimir putin tumbled toto the ice while takig a victory lap after playing a hockey game. he did not see a mass that had been laid out on the ice. >> tucker: they probably killed the guy who left the rug out. >> they killed everyone in the stadium. very sad. and he scores 15 goals every period. >> tucker: if i can defend vladimir putin for a moment as is my habit. question four, another multiple-choice. jeff bezos the guy who owns amazon and "the washington post" wants topl colonize the moon by sending people there in his spaceship, for real. what year to see say this will happen?

2020, 2034, or 2035. >> 2024! >> tucker: howow would you know that? is she right, is it really 2024? >> for those of you doing the arithmetic at home, the 2024. going back to the moon, this time to stay. >> how would she know that. >> already put my down payment on my moon condo. >> can i come visit? good. >> tucker: order it on prime. the president ass you know has given nicknames to a number of democratic candidates running this year. what is the name he has given to the south bend mayor pete buttigieg. >> alfred e. neuman? >> you know who in the white house continues to give nicknames to his rivals.

calling democratic candidate mayor pete put a judge alfred e. neuman who who is the cartoon " magazine. >> tucker: wow. that was tighter than i thought it was going to be but it's still a decisive victory by kennedy. >> i'm 0 for 2. did you say you were going to smoke me? >> tucker: it was impressive on both of your parts, i'm trying to be diplomatic. kennedy you win and that entitles you to the coveted eric wintel mug and we are going to send you that by fedex. >> interoffice mail works from d.c. to mecca new york. >> tucker: that's a good point. congratulations. for those of you watching at home, pay attention to the news every week, all this week, tune in next thursday to see if you can beat our experts, we'll be right back. (music) just one free hearing test at

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♪ >> the russians are engaging in trying to divide us. we've got the russian interferences in terms of using places like facebook. >> no question what russia did. they meddled in our election. >> tucker: that's former ohio governor john kasich.no he fell early and very hard for the russia hoax. two years later he has still not recovered. he's still yammering on about russia much to the embarrassment of his friends. kasich and his staff must be true believers they must really think that russia is existential threat to our democracy. but, of course, they don't really think that they are lying. we know that because last month john kasich's closest advisor, john weaver, signed a $350,000 contract with a subsidiary of, wait for it, russia's state owned nuclear power company. john weaver also registered as a foreign agent to lobby against sanctions on russia. keep in mind, a few months ago, like his partner john

kasich, weaver was accusing the president of betraying his country to work for russia, which is precisely what john weaver himself is now doing.wh pause and let the irony sink in. marinade in it for a moment. i tonight john weaver is pretending ashamed of all of that, as if he is capable of shame. the rest of us should understand that john weaver never cared about russia. none of these people did. john kasich, bill kristol, the rest of them, all the hysterics on twitter. it was all fake. nothing to do with russia. what they cared about was preserving a system that they benefited from. and to protect that system, they tried to overturn democratic election results in this country using a hoax and a lot of lying and a ton of hysteria and shouting and accusations. they have been caught doing that. there really ought to be some penalty for what they did. let's hope there is. ♪ on a much happier note, it is time now for "the friend zone." we bring in one of our friends here at fox onto the n

program. shannon bream works two doors down. she hosts the 11:00 p.m. hour every night. a terrific writer, a new book out this week. unlike ed henry's book we told you about last night, this book actually exists. it's called "finding the bright side: the art of chasingt what matters." we are proud to have shannon bream join us tonight. >> happy birthday, tucker. am i allowed to say that? >> tucker: no. i can't handle it. but thank you. "the art of chasing what matters."ha what, in the course of your long and varied and much more interesting, even than i realized, life, what have you decided matters? >> well, you know, for me, my faith is the biggest thing. it is the center and the compass of my life. like many human beings, i'm easily distracted on a day-to-day basis, whether it's chasing after a certain job or a certain guy, a certain whatever. it's a constant refocusing on the things that are actually of significance, your relationship, your faith, whatever that maybe.

for me that is really whatev it is. sometimes you get your eyes off the real prize and it's easy to be distracted in this world. >> tucker: yeah. it certainly is. but you have remained faithful to who you are. you have been with the same man, who is a friend of mine, and a wonderful man for all these years. the one kind of hard pivot in your life, though, you go from law to television. >> um-huh. >> tucker: why did you do that? >> you know what? i have always been a news junky. i love what we get to do. you meet the most interesting people. you travel around the world. you see history. i have always been into that. when i was in college, my dad, who has passed away now. he was a marine and undercover cop he was a tough guy. he said, you are going to law school or med school, you pick one, and that's it. i knew he wanted me to have a good financial foundation but he didn't think ofe journalism as a real job. he thought it was more like "entertainment tonight" or something. he was like, be a lawyer, so much more respected out in the world.

i did that. i never got over the news junky thing. i made some crazy changes. i became an intern at 29. i was the grandma enter in. everyone out there was 20 who was interning. i made coffee and worked overnight. i learned the business from the ground up. i made a lot of mistakes but i loved it.is that passion has never gone away. >> tucker: are you glad you did it? so you write this book and you pause and do what most of us never do, which is think about your life. are you glad you made that choice?ch >> absolutely. i love what i do every day. it feels like a blessing. it is the most interesting thing in the world. if our little bit add, which b i am, we are always learning new topics, meeting new people. you know, learning new policies. so, for me it's a wonderful job. i hated being a lawyer. i'm not going to lie.at so i don't miss that at all, which is good. it's the truth. i'm so excited every dayay when i get up and i come here to work to work with people like you and get to chase stories. it's endlessly fascinating to me and i really do love it. >> tucker: what's the weirdest, most unexpected thing you have seen in doing this?

>> i would say, getting fired from my first tv job was rather unexpected. i was told i am the worst person on tv and i would never make it in this business. that was very painful and humiliating. i it keeps you humble, which is an important part of the book as well. it's good to stay there. >> tucker: what market was that? >> i was in tampa, where iat interned and i somehow talked my way into being on air. the guy who had put me on air left the station and the new guy came in and said what was that dude thinking? there have been some serious valleys along the way. if you are passionate about something, just stick with it. for every person that tells you keep going until you get to that one person who see some kind of glimmer who can see your passions and make your dreams come true. >> tucker: amazing. you have done that. beloved by everybody in the building. congratulations on the book. >> thank you. happy birthday. s >> tucker: that's it for us. the hour is over. like sands through an hourglass.

we'll be back tomorrow night 8:00 p.m., the show that is the sworn enemy and totally sincere enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness and groupthink.. our show is followed by the 9:00 p.m. hour. the 9:00 p.m. hour is hosted by our friend sean hannity. he is in new york city right now. >> sean: this is an fbi flag pin. you want to know why i wear it? an fbi friend of mine gave it to me because he said i know you are going after these few at the top, thank you. and that you always say the 99.9% that are putting their lives on the line for us, and i mean it. isn't that cool? >> tucker: good for you. it's totally cool. you are right. >> sean: by the way, it's someone's birthday today. >> tucker: mine. [laughing] >> sean: my present is in the mail.o tucker, thank you. welcome to "hannity," glad you're with us. tonight a lot of breaking news. brand new developments, surrounding james comey.su james clapper, john brennan, we have a monumental report from solomon about real russian collusion in the clinton ca