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>> if we are worried about foreign influence for the same reason we should be worried about whether government officials abuse their power and put their thumb on the scale. i'm not saying that happened. >> that phrase don't hang together is something he said repeatedly during his trip to central america. we talked about many things including the president's claims there is a witch hunt an has no time for it. the attorney general reacted on that. >> the president calls there a witch hunt. he calls it a hoax. would you agree with that? >> well, as i've said, if he were the president i think he would view it as a witch hunt and a hoax because at the time, he was saying he was innocent, and that he was being falsely

accused and that's if you're falsely accused you would think that something was a witch hunt. i have to say, when you step back and look at this, two and a half years his administration he has been hammered for something for allegedly conspiring with the russians and that we now know that was simply false. >> are you comfortable using those words, witch hunt? hoax? >> i use what words i use and it was an investigation but i think if i i had falsely accused i would be comfortable saying it was a witch hunt. >> bill barr said a lot in this interview. on the dossier it had a number of mistakes. democrat had been hammering barr. they held him in contempt a week ago. look for more action on that in june. as for bob mueller bill barr

says he has no problem of him testifying in the house. when that happens though it is not quite clear. perhaps again about a month from now. these two men bill barr and bob mueller have known each other 30 years and bill barr told me on this trip he considers bob mueller still to be a friend. ed. >> bill hammer from san salvador. let's bring in jerry seid with the "wall street journal." the "wall street journal" reporters also sat down with the attorney general about this trip. jerry good to see you. >> good to see you ed. >> i'm looking at your web site. in addition to what bill hammer got from the attorney general he told your reporters among other things quote government power was used to spy on american citizens. that one sentence alone is pretty chilling. >> it is. it's a statement he made initially when he was testifying before congress and repeated it pretty bluntly in the interview with us the it's interesting that he said the part of the investigation that he's looking at most closely was not the

period after the fbi opened a formal inquiry which was in july, 2016 but in the intelligence gathering that occurred before then and i think the fbi response is going to be at that point this was not a criminal investigation. there was a counterintelligence operation and you conduct that in a certain way so there's going to be some bumping of heads over the use of the word spying and what exactly that means and when it is that attorney general barr is concerned about what the fbi did. >> but your readers and our viewers, is it spying is it surveillance is it semantics what was going on in terms of koument intelligence and intelligence gathering it seems the bottom line may be was the dossier which is unverified use by our government to spy on americans as william barr suggests? >> you know, he didn't give a particularly straight answer to the question what the role of the das aida was. i think that's one of the questio

questions, i think you've heard descriptions what role the dossier played. in the mueller report there is not a mention the dossier was the taking off point. >> how does this fit in with the justice department inspector general coming out with a report that is going to look at some of this which might be a followup point for the attorney general to follow up with what might be a criminal investigation with the fbi the cia and how they did all this. what's your sense of that i.g. report? >> i think it's going to focus particularly on whether the warrants that were issue to allow essentially listening in on americans were filed for and approved in a suitable manner. i think what attorney general barr is telling us in these interviews is he was wants to go much wider and appointed a u.s. attorney in recent days to

conduct a wider investigation so it isn't just a narrow question what happened when these warrants were issued. he wants to have a broader inquiry. >> that's what's coming but we are sometime looking backward if you will at bob mueller and his report. here is bill hammer asking the attorney general what he thought of mueller not coming down with the conclusion on obstruction. >> were you surprised he came back with no recommendation on that obstruction charge? did that surprise you? >> yes that surprised me. >> how come? >> because the function of a prosecutor is to make a call one way or the other. >> did you ask him why? >> yeah, we discussed it. >> what did he say? >> well, you know, i said, already have said we met on march 5th before he delivered the report and he gave an explanation for it and it's pretty much reflected in the report. >> you're okay with him testifying? >> absolutely. >> so he's okay with him testifying and yet house

democrats have not quite gotten an answer from bob muler. i think the reason they aren't got the answer yet is there's a subissue being worked out when bob mueller testifies and attorney general barr is saying flat out i have no problem with him testifying but in he testifies will he be forced to claim executive privilege and not talk about certain elements of his report. that's the sticking point right now. that's the reason it isn't as easy of saying saying he is going to testify. there's conditions that have to be worked out and it's hard to know as bill said when that's going to happen. >> the attorney general the context being he's trying to show u.s. efforts to crack down on ms-13 gangs in central america. he sits down with fox and the "wall street journal" but he's on counteroffensive because he's got speaker nancy pelosi and others like jerry nadler suggesting he lied to congress pursuing these contempt charges.

here's what he told bill hemmer about that. >> nancy pelosi believes you lied under oath. what do you think of that charge? >> well i think it's a laughable charge an large by being made to try to discredit me because they may be concerned about the outcome of a review of what happened during the election. >> what does that mean? >> that means they may be frying to undermine my credibility, but obviously can you look at the face of my testimony and see on its face there is nothing inaccurate about it. >> so this ties back to where our conversation started jerry which is the idea that william barr believes the reason they're coming after him is because they're worried what might come next with the fbi cia and democrats. >> yeah that's going to be a fact. it already is a controversial charge on his part. it's going to attract a lot of anger from democrats an is as a matter of fact and a lot of this turns on one particular answer he gave in testimony to congressman crist he didn't know

why bob mueller was the way he summarized the report when it was fully released when he got a letter from bob mueller why he was unhappy the way the report had been summarized so there are spend particular games about contempt or not contempt. but i think bob mueller was unhappy with the way the attorney general characterized the report. >> absolutely. jerry we appreciate your insights. >> thank. >> we've heard talk about contempt charges in congress. what actually happens when lawmakers take that sort of action? some suggest it could involve a secret jail deep in the bowels of the capitol so our chad berger went looking for answers. turns out there's a lot of history and misconception. that's coming up later this our separating fact from fiction.

>> president trump in the last hour announcing u.s. will drop steel and aluminum tariffs against mexico and canada. rich is keeping tabs. what's happening? >> with the president u.s. mexico and canada have all done is drop major tariffs against one another. there's a provision in this agreement that would have these countries monitor steel countries that may be subsidized in or words to make it more attractive an competitive to american domestic steel. think china on that one. last march the trump administration imposed tariffs on steel an aluminum imports across the world, countries reretaliated, so that has now been lift as part of this agreement. this morning the trump administration delayed for six months tariffs on cars an auto parts. despite these announcements the united states an china b escalating their trade fight

recently putting increasing tariffs to about hundreds of billions of dollars in each other's i am parts. >> meanwhile we saw the president at the white house during this program laying out his immigration proposal. florida officials say the white house may be sending migrants to their state. >> they say the administration that is planned to send about a thousand migrants a month who were apprehended in the el paso area and bring them to southeastern florida, west palm beach area, broward county, those are two mostly democratic counties in that part of florida and there's a pretty bipartisan opposition to that in florida. >> but we cannot accommodate our state, i think it will pass our resources, law enforcement, the state agencies. >> we have no resources, no

money from the federal government thief offered no help whatsoever. we are going to try to enlist all the resources we can to help the people but i think what's going to happen is it's going to create another homeless situation and homeless encampment which is absolutely inhumane and again this policy is absolutely irresponsible. >> florida republican senator marco rubio says he's written the acting secretary of the department of homeland security asking for some of the details of this plan but also noting that there is and underfunded border crisis or u.s. government response to the border crisis ongoing and democratic members of the house have appealed to the administration. back to you. >> rich live at the white house thank you rich. we are getting new information but the president's former national security adviser michael flynn. court documents reveal what he told the fed about his effort to influence the russians in the

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>> president trump's former national security adviser michael flynn told special counsel robert mueller's team people in congress tried to influence his operation in the russia probe. katherine is reporting live in washington. >> it's the first time a federal judge has ordered the justice department to make public sections of the mueller report that were secret. this is a limited order. there's no timetable for further release but the same court showed national security adviser mike flynn told special counsel on multiple instances before and after his guilty plea where he and his lawyers got calls from individuals connected to the administration an congress could have affected his willingness to cooperate an completeness of that cooperation. the defendant provided a moist

mail of that confrontation and there was an effort by the president's lawyers to protect privileged information. speaking to there's reaction that mike flynn was already under investigation during the 2016 presidential transition. >> general flynn went through 19 sessions with the special counsel approximately 90 hours of interviews and this never came up the entire time and you would have thought it would have and they would have maybe focused on that but it didn't come up at all. it was an absolute surprise. >> volume ii which is the brings volume the reports states that investigators came across the fbi probe while investigating quote flynn's discussion of sanctions with russian ambassador kislyak.

since contacts with kislyak became a key component of that investigation, after a report this morning the president tweeting it seems general flynn was under investigation long before it was common knowledge and that he continued. why was i not told so that i could make a change? the bottom line is the special counsel declined to answer our questions here at fox and the timing does matter because it means in late december, 2016 flynn was already under investigation and there was no what's called defensive brief to go the trump transition team, a defensive briefing is standard procedure in these counterintelligence investigations to warn the parties that the target of a foreign government ed. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. >> tensions with iran and word this latest round may have started with a misinterpretation. that coming up. fact is, every insurance company hopes you drive safely.

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>> there's word in misinterpretations could have cause t.d. latest round of tension with iran according to "wall street journal." the journal reports u.s. intel shows the iranians made military preps when they believed america was planning an attack but some officials in the trump administration argue the intel shows it was iran planning to strike us first. here is national security correspondent jennifer griffin live in the pentagon. help us sort this out. >> well ed it's a question of chicken vs. egg. that's what those reading the intelligence are saying about what caused the latest escalation that led iran and the u.s. to move i.t. assets around the gulf. u.s. military commanders i speak to say they saw multiple threat streams including satellite images of iran loading cruise missiles into the hollowed out

hulls of small ships they were concerned could threaten u.s. bases or ships at sea. they have not yes declassified or released those images. that's when u.s. central command decided to accelerate the positioning of the uss abraham lincoln putting it on station two weeks ahead of schedule and deploying b-52's to the region within 50 hours of assessing the threat now we are learning based on the "wall street journal" reporting new intelligence announces suggests the iranians were pre-positioning missiles because they believed the u.s. was preparing a military strike as the trump administration max pressure ramped up especially putting the u.s. revolutionly guard on the u.s. terrorist list. a former helicopter pilot. >> we don't have the level of communication we insure that unintend ed conflicts don't

escalate into something more. don't think we have the communication with the iranian government that we need to deescalate the situation. >> general dunford and patrick shanahan will brief the senate on tuesday. >> the u.s. believes there are threats from iran obviously. >> that's right. now a top iranian commander issued this threat to the u.s. military, quote. even our short range missiles can easily reach warships in the% gulf. america cannot afford the cost of a new war and the country is in a bad situation in terms manpower an social conditions. the manpower on national security is calling for iran to hold negotiations blaming an unnamed third party for trying to stoke a water between the u.s. an iran. a saudi newspaper close to the palace called for the u.s. to car i out surgical strikes on iran, adding tension to this

standoff, ed. >> thank you for that let's bring in michael hanlan, senior fellow at brookings institution. he specializes in defensive strategy use of force and american security policy. welcome michael. >> nice to see you. >> how big a threat do you see this as as jennifer laces it out it may have been miscommunication. when the iranians are loading cruise missiles in boats it could be serious. >> yes. usually iran doesn't want to get in that kind of force on force confrontation with the u.s. because we will win that fight. they can try to put missiles on small boats an maybe cause some damage and kill americans but they're not going to be able to keep boats afloat in the persian gulf which is historically is why iran is more dangerous with

covert and terrorist tactics from iraq to syria to lebanon, yemen, saudi arabia back in the dough when kobar towers was attacked, the lebanon bombing in 1980s, barracks in 1983 so i think iran is going to be reluctant to get in a naval showdown. on the other hand we know four ships have been damaged and until we get to the bottom of who caused that, i think that's question number 1 before the jury and if in fact we find out iran had directly or indirectly contributed to those attacks against commercial vessels then there may have to be some degree of retaliation. it's hard to do a surgical strike. saudis have been trying to do surgical strikes in yemen and are flailing. most times we try to do surgical strikes we get into trouble because they can't be that precise so on the one hand you

want to send a message if you figure tout rannians are behind those four attacks. on the other hand it's pretty hard to find the right way to deliver just the right amount of punishment without risking an escalation. >> real quick michael. let's widen the lens about the stakes on the ground. these reports suggesting hard liners the white house like john bolton may have been pushing the president towards an attack on iran. some of those reports denied we should be clear but the same time that congresswoman quoted in jennifer's report saying maybe there should be diplomacy and talks. this administration has not talked directly with iran but we've all covered the president trying to talk with kim jong-un. he's been direct saying he wants to sit down with world leaders. what are the progress in u.s. iranian talks? >> i do like this dynamic between trump an bolton, bolton the bad cop, trump rest sent to use military force. that's not a bad combination in

this situation but with talks we have a hard time when the united states has called for complete change in iranian behavior an iran continues to cause mischief in the broader missed missed so i don't know if talks are likely to yield progress. >> michael we appreciate your insights today. >> thank you kindly. >> if house democrats hold attorney general william barr in contempt what will happen? we talked with bill hemmer about it and looked back at when congress actually locked some people up. that's coming up. the experience better for you. now there's less pain immediately following injection. we've reduced the size of the needle and removed the citrate buffers. and it has the same effectiveness you know and trust.

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>> attorney general william barr says he doesn't feel threatened by house democrats pushing to hold him in contempt of congress. >> what about the charge of contempt that's already passed in committee that may go to the floor of the householding you in contempt? what do you think of that? >> you know, it's part of the

political circus being played out. it doesn't surprise me. >> last week the house judiciary committee voted to hold the attorney general in kept along with underlying evidence from the russia probe. so how might all this play out with history as our guide? let's turn to our senior producer on capitol hill chad. did you find handcuffs? what did you come up with? >> there are three types of congressional contempt, criminal contempt, civil concept where they sue and inherent contempt where congress tries to enforce the resolution itself something they did for hundreds of years. >> in 1795 three house members believed businessman robert randall attempted to bribe them. house found randall in contempt. he was brought to congress

reprimand ed be jonathan dayton an held in custody a few days. in 1857 the senate found a journalist in contempt arrested and held him for several weeks. but congress hasn't arrested someone for contempt since 1934. lawmakers investigated the 1930 airmail scandal whether president hooverer improperly handed out contracts for mail. the senate found mccracken in contempt and arrested him. they held him in ten days not in a congressional jail but in a hotel in downtown washington. water game committee chairman sameer vin threatened to jail any witness who didn't comply with his probe in the 1970s. the house sued josh bolton and hair yet meyers in 2008.

house committee jerry nadler says the house vote on threatening william barr will be civil lawsuit inherent contempt and inherent contempt perhaps remain on the table. >> i don't want to answer that question because i'm not sure we won't. >> stow would the house actually arrest barr an others and maybe hold them at the capital? >> let me just say that we do have a jail down in the basement of the capitol. [laughter] but if we were arresting all the people in the administration we would have an overcrowded jail situation. >> this is the capital crypt. two levels below the capitol rotunda floor. it's where george washington was supposed to be buried in the building. there's know evidence that

anyone was ever kept here even though lots of members of congress an tour guides suggest they were. the ago text of the capital office can't say whether anyone was held here. pelosi suggests this con tempted citation will work out better than others. [inaudible] >> because i do. i just do. down want to have a contempt of congress against you that is not a desirable thing for someone to have. >> house speaker nancy pelosi says she has no position on inherent contempt. the house may consider a contempt of congress resolution against don mcgann. ed what this means is that a

full vote before the house on contempt for barr probably drifts until june. back to you. >> just to be clear doesn't seem like there really is a jail down there but chad stay out of trouble. meanwhile an openly gay man is running for president first time in history. in south bend, indiana people buttigieg hasn't been shy about criticizing mike pence's past policies on lgbtq rights. now in a fox news exclusive interview the president is weighing in on this historic run. >> we have got the town hall with pete buttigieg. one thing on him. putting aside policy disagreements don't you think it's great to see the fact that you've got a guy on the stage with his husband and it's normal? >> i think it's absolutely fine. i do. >> isn't it a sign of great

progress in the country? >> yeah. i think it's great. i think it's something that perhaps some people will have a problem with. i have no problem with it whatsoever. i think it's good. >> you can hear directly from the president on that and more. you can catch steve hilton's entire interview 9 p.m. eastern next revolution on the fox channel. we have a town hall with presidential candidate pete buttigieg this sunday 7 p.m. eastern. chris wallace will be moderating alive from new hampshire. don't miss those events. the leader of britain's main opposition party is pulling the plug on brexit talks leaving one of america allies in limbo telling prime minister theresa may negotiations of gone as far as they can and his team is walking out. both side blame divisions within the other party for why a deal cannot be struck. britain has until october 31st to leave the european union.

greg is tracking those developments live in lone. good to see you greg. >> hey ed. looks like another nail in the coffin of theresa may's attempt to get britain to exit the european union. talks had frankly been going nowhere. may already said she put her own plan up for another vote in the british parliament early next month. it is expected to be defeated. it has been voted down three times before. that will be a busy time by the way here in britain. president trump is set to make a state visit in early june. highs expressed disapproval of mayest handling of brexit. she's also said as she will step down as prime minister. the leading contender to take over the job, former london

mayor boris johnson called a brexiteer. the possibility could be a no deal hard brexit which would be an economic calamity or a referendum and the u.k. staying in the european union fearing that could be a calamity as well. >> greg appreciate your report. word today of a big warning about the weather. pay attention to this one. severe storm predictions on the way, strong winds and flash flooding that could affect people for days. we will get an update from a team of people tracking it all, next. i did a lot of research into dna tests.

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states affected and it started late tonight so we don't have to wait for the weekend to see the storms fire up. one of the risks into the high plains through parts of nebraska into texas we could have severe weather with thunderstorms risks, multiple out there, with damaging wind gusts, possibly large hail which could be as large as baseballs and we could see tornadoes. there's certainly that possibility overnight. of course this is just leading into the weekend. saturday poses another risk. basically the pattern why so loss till because the jet stream is dipping south into the rockies as this energy shifts slightly to the east, we are going to see it collide with that gulf coast moisture, plenty of dry air and much of that cool air into the west coast right now. that's where we get storms through the central portion of the nation, countless states in

the threat for severe weather. saturday is more focused on the south. however we could see stronger storms with the risk of tornadoes even as far north as parts of iowa so keep in mind there is an active trend and we are not done yet. sunday there is another risk here as this whole system moves slightly east, places like chicago could be in on this action as we head through the day and indianapolis late in the day. and by the way if you think this is just one thing for the weekend, we are actually going to continue there trend into next week so we are not done yet, ed. >> important information melissa. thank you for bringing it to us. there are trillions of pieces of plastic in the ocean according the journal scientific reports. the evidence washing up on a remote island chain in the indian ocean located between australia and sri lanka. we are talking straws, bags, toothbrushes washing ashore, 238

tons, heavier than statue of liberty. trace live from los angeles. >> as you mentioned stars in the mikty way. how about an estimated 414 million pieces of plastic in the indian ocean. they continue have a large number human population to clean up the debris so they serve as canaries in the coal line how much is circulating the university. jennifer from the university of tasmania says it was largely bottle caps, straws as well as large numbers of shoes and thongs. in australia thongs are sandals or flip-flops and they found an estimated one million shoes and thongs along with about 370,000 toothbrushes. of course the majority of the plastic is bottles and other

containers and these are conservative estimates because they only sample down to a depth of 4 inches. now for the bigger picture inspite of all these plastic bans we hear about, the study says almost half the plastic produced over the past 60 years has been manufactured since antiquity and in 2010 alone an estimated 12.7 million tongues of plastic entered the world's oceans an overall there are some 5 trillion pieces of flags particular debris polluting our waterways. the scientists say cleaning up the oceans is currently not possible and the only viable solution is to reduce plastic production and consumption and to improve waste management ed. >> tracy can assure you we did not send you out on a trash story on purpose. nothing to do with you. great job. love you. coming up the actor woody harrelson is not accused of stealing any beer. trust me. why did cops use a photo of him

to find a suspect who did steal beer? that story next.

proving more restrictive anti-abortion laws in the nation. passing a bill that bans abortions after eight weeks of pregnancy. it includes exceptions for medical emergencies, but not for rape or incest. analysts say they expect the republican governor to sign it. you'll remember alabama passed a bill banning nearly all abortions and making it a felony to perform one. supporters say it's a direct challenge to the supreme court's roe versus wade decision. it comes as other states have approved or are considering so-called heartbeat bills. they ban abortions as soon as doctors detect a heartbeat. typically about six weeks in. that's before many women even know their pregnant. the new york police

department apparently use add photo of actor woody harrelson and facial recognition technology to try to find a beer thief. to sort this out -- you like beer? >> why not? i'm here to help. researchers from georgetown say the stakes are too high in criminal investigations to rely on unreliable or wrong input, going so far as to call the practice of using pictures who sort of look like the suspect as garbage in, garbage out. it stems from an nypd case. the suspect stole beer from a cvs in new york city. when they ran his face, nobody popped up as a match. they noticed the guy looked like actor woody harrelson. they got a few matches, and it even led to an arrest. while the report shows that facial recognition has helped the nypd crack 2,900 cases in

five years, it also points to the possibility of mistakes. the nypd also uses a technique which involves replacing facial features or expressions in a photo to help find their suspect. the nypd is pushing back on the criticism says no one has been arrested on the basis of a facial recognition match alone. now, this practice is unregulated as of now, and most adult americans, by the way, are already in some kind of facial recognition database. if you have a driver's license or a passport, you're in the system. the report suggests police should stop using celebrity look-a-like images and take steps to reduce the risk of misidentification. >> all kinds of reaction to that one. we'll have a fox news update on facebook watch. it's a quick online newscast with stories you haven't seen. it starts in a few moments. if you miss it, you can catch it

on demand. your world with neil cavuto is coming up next. if we're worried about foreign influence, we should be worried about whether government officials abuse their power and put their thumb on the scale. i'm not saying that happened, but i'm saying that we have to look at that. >> neil: attorney general william barr in an exclusive interview vowing to get to the bottom of what triggered the russia probe and whether government officials, as he put it, put their thumb on the scale. today, the fast and furious fallout. in a moment, we're going to hear from the house judiciary committee's jim jordan on what he thinks of all of this. first, on the attorney general, he says trying to get to the