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are, they are harder working and do better in school. they found more companies. the president has decided to take democrats at their word. he says he wants all of those good things that immigrants bring. watch. >> we want immigrants coming in we cherish the open door that we want to create for our country, because big proportion of those immigrants must come in through merit and skill. >> tucker: well much the world would move here if they could. h hundreds and hundreds of millions of people. so why wouldn't we pick the absolute best. immigrants with skills and english would fit in better here. their kids would do better in school. they would be more likely to contribute to social programs instead of draining them. are democrats rejoicing in this change? of course not. they are outraged. house speaker nancy pelosi spoke for the party when she said really merit is a bad word because everybody has b merit. >> i want to just say something about the word that they use merit. it is really a condescending

word. are they saying family is without merit? are they saying most of the people thatin have ever come to the united states in the history of our country are without merit because they don't have an engineering degree? certainly we want to attract the best in our country -- to our country and that includes many people from many parts of society. >> tucker: what a shame we can't staff the democratic caucus in the congress using the same criteria the speaker would like to fill our country. we want to attract the best from many parts of the world she says. but, of course, by thatt pelosi doesn't mean what she says. she means just the opposite. because what exactly is best about immigrants who havee criminal records or middle school educations or no ability to hold a job in the answer is there is nothings best about that. immigrants like that might be nice people much more likely to burden the united states than benefit economically. harvard doesn't admit students that don't speak english it. says so on their website. why should our country. the left doesn't want to answer questions like that.

or even have the conversation shut up, racist. they declare the current system is great. no evidence necessary. watch this former obama official make her fact-free case on msnbc yesterday. >> what's left on this is the medium and even the least skilled immigrant also contribute to the u.s. economy. they come in and they do different things for natives and they allow everyone to specialize more on what they are doing best. that contribution of the unskilled immigrants that i think people overlook when they really push the so-called merit based or what's b called in other countries the point system. >> tucker: um-huh. so what professor hunt and so many on the left, including the speaker of the house, are arguing for is a futile system where foreign-born worker bees toil to support a smug and pampered managerial class of which they, of course are part. there is no other explanation for our current policies. we don't need more low skilled workers in the united states. we have plenty of low

skilled workers. their unemployment rate is higher than the national average. their rage growth has been abysmal b for decades, generations. so how did those workers benefit from having more competition? of course, they don't. how does the country benefit by having more low skilledin workers when technological changes may soon render millions of them permanently jobless in the answer, of course, is that we won't benefit. but, fort, the left, whether the country benefits is not the point. congresswoman ilhan omar herself a symbol of america's failed immigration system if there ever was one. someone who hates this country coming here at public expense spent yesterday demanding the abolition of ice, the decriminalization of illegal immigration itself and an end to all deportation programs. she demands open borders, the unlimited arrival of anyone who wants to come to america whether they have anything to contribute or not and by the way you get to pay for it. and if you don't want to, you are a bigot. well you know what this is really about, of course. it's not about civil rights.

that's a joke. it's about money and power. their money, their power. the left has a line with business interest that profit from cheap obedient workers. low skilled immigrants have a harder time asimulating into the american mainstream. they stay poor and learn english more slowly remain ethnic underclass much more likely to vote democrat long term that's the point obviously. skilled immigrant t might assimilate and become less reliable democraticte voters. they might even compete with the children of our ruling class. that's not allowed. safer to import. don't let them tell you it's about civil rights. it's not. it's about their convenience and power. larry elder is a radio show host in california. we are always grateful to have him on our show. thanks for joining us tonight. >> my pleasure. >> tucker: i never thought that the left would have the hutzpah to make a case against merit based immigration because everybody is for it. what exactly is the case

against it?t? >> well, there isn't a case to be made in favor of anything other than a merit based system as you pointed out. p look, the u.k. has a merit based system. canada has a merit based system. germany has a merit based system. we don't. and about 70% of the legal people we have every single year are here because of chain migration as opposed because of skills. as you pointed out, there is no question that unskilled illegal aliens put pressure on the wages of people who are unskilled here, black and brown. i like to point out people quay caesar chavez the same fuss civil rights leader wasn't a civil rights leader he was a union leader. he found the farmer's union hated illegal immigration illegal aliens threatened the job of husband unionists and put pressure on their wages. democrats like harry reid used to denounce things like chain pry congratulation andng -- change migration birthright citizenship. ted kennedy even criticized

what he called, quote, virtually endless chain migration closed quote. they have done a 180, tucker. they have done a 180 specifically for votes. >> tucker: and your point about chavez is right. he physically assaulted illegal aliens in the senor ran desert. that's how threatened he felt by the influx of low wage labor. it crushed hiswa bargaining power and hurt his people. >> incorrect thing to say but chavezor worked with the federal government to stop illegal immigration for the precise reasons i just now mentioned. >> tucker: i don't understand where organized labor is in all of this. this kills them. why aren't they speaking up against it? >> they ought. and so ought to black sam brown's whose wages by the illegal aliens. this is all about votes. you can go to youtube and can you find a video from a guy named medina a senior v.p. with the seiu union and he said shortly after obama got elected if we have quote comprehensive immigration

catchphrase for amnesty two thirds of these new voters will vote for t us. we have a governing coalition for the long haul. that's what this is all about. calculation throw black inner city people under the bulls in exchange for bigger -- bus in exchange for bigger minority hispanics who are going to vote for c us. it's all about power. they use to say the same m thing trump used to say about chain migration, about merit based migration, about porous borders and jobs. they used to sigh the same dething until they realized thatin the votes were on that side rather than the other side. that's what's going on. purely power as you pointed out, tucker. >> tucker: some day it's going to be really obvious there are going to be a lot of disappointed people in the democratic coalition. >> a lot of people black and brown to vote for donald trump. you are seeing numbers for black 27% for trump. 45% for hispanics. one of the reason is illegal immigration. thispanics have done it the right way don't want it either. >> tucker: of course. what's the message? more abortion colin nicks in

-- clinics in your neighborhood and people from the third world to compete with you? i don't understand what's in it for african-americans i agree completely with what you just said. larry elder, thank you so much. >> my pleasure. >> tucker: illegal immigrant from kenya is accused tonight of being a serial killer who murdered at least 12 elderly women. trace gallagher has more on that story. >> 46-year-old in this country illegally charged with killing 11 elderly women that's on top of being charged and jailed in 2018 for killing another elderly woman. he also accused of trying to suffocate two more women, in fact, if not for one of those women surviving, he might stillablevi on the run. in march 2018, he allegedly forced his way into the apartment of a 91-year-old woman. he reportedd told her, quote: go to bed. don't fight me. he then allegedly smothered the woman with a pillow and robbed her. but paramedics were able to revive her and she gave authorities key information including a description that led to his capture. over his alleged three year

killing spree his oldest victim was 94. his youngest 76. police say after killing the women he would steal their jewelry. billy chemirmir is also a former healthcare worker use his experience as a way to getting close to senior citizens and gaining their trust. now police are going back and looking at 750 unattended deaths of elderly women to see if there might be possible links. his attorney says her client egdenies the allegations. he is being held in the dallas county jail and has been since last march. he is also wanted for being in the u.s. illegally and if the charges are true, chemimer would be among the most prolific serial killers in history. this case has gotten little coverage in some areas zero coverage, tucker. >> tucker: yeah, i wonder why. trace gallagher thanks for filling in those blanks. we appreciate it.

>> tucker: well, america's dumbest mayor are is running for president.t how are the media reacting to the de blasio for presidentt campaign? hilarious. we will show you after the break. ♪ and world wide sportsman angler shirts starting at under $20. your adventure starts here.

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♪ >> tucker: well, there seem to be several hundred democratic candidates running for president -- okay, about 20. but, all of them have been able to count on at least some favorable media coverage. some of them get sucked up to every day. new york mayor bill de blasio, unfortunately has a

big disadvantage. most of the national media are based in new york city so they live under the de blasio administration and they know how incompetent he is. so, how have they reacted to his new candidacy? >> bill de blasio is the answer to what question that isn't being answered? >>aughter] >> there is a palpable lack of excitement in the streets of new york. tthree quarters of new yorkers don't want him to run. is not what anyone would call popular back home win new york. >> i think the problem is he thinks if you can make it here, you can make it anywhere. but if you look at polling but here's the thing, polling shows national democrats would prefer he maintain a new york state of mind. >> tucker: ouch. even the ladies of "the view" were not impressed, including, believe it or not, whoopi goldberg. >> not a good career move, man.t here's the thing that you didn't mention. [laughter] homelessness is near record highs.

public housing is falling apart. you can't seem to fire anybody. the subways are under served the buses are slow. what the hell are you going to do? finish doing what you are doing here. finish being the mayor. finish this out. >> tucker: it's a fair point you have got to say joe concha writes for the media for the hill. have you ever seen a democrat get that kind of treatment from the national media? >> i have never seen a candidate mocked this much when they announced their presidential candidacy, tucker.i i have seen apathy before. you probably are seeing apathy with 17 of the 23 democrats currently doing now. begging going on please don't do. this there is even a flyer, at the ymca bill de blasio travels to brooklyn to work out at that reads this you will immediately cease any and all trips to iowa, new hampshire and all other primary states. you agreee a to focus on your current job here in new york city which you are not excelling at. you can put bernie madoff on the ticket right now as a

nominee and he will poll better than bill de blasio which most polls to quote animal house is 0.0. [laughter] >> tucker: does anybody doubt that bernie madoff would do a better job running the subways? >> the problem is he doesn't get outs i looked this up until 2139 but, yeah. i would think. so speaking of the subway. i'm in your new york studio. i had to come up from tribeca for my radio show. as i was coming up here, three homeless people in the stairwell getting off the rockefeller center exit that stairwell and just looking and it's 4:00 in the afternoon and i couldn't believe what i was looking at. he needs to stay here and finish out his term. that'sis the thing. this is a job audition because is he term limited until 2021. he wants to do enough to rock the boat so he can get an ambassadorship to venezuela which will probably be appropriate or a media job because clearly he isn't doing a good job here and this is all an effort just to put himself on some

other person's radar for another job. p >> tucker: i think that's right. he wants the hell out of new york which he has destroyed. the media are not fans of bill de blasio. they are fans of something else. late a term abortion. they have done nothing to hide their contempt for the new alabama law which seeks to ban a few months ago. celebrating new york law up until the moment of birth. >> what do we know specifically about these states trying to move to protect abortion rights? >> sure, lester, the state of new york has already passed a law that protects abortion in the third trimester under certain circumstances. but there are 10 other states that are looking at proposals to protect abortion. >> tucker: joe, it seems to me that on policy issues, the press really should try to be as neutral as possible a but they are not trying on this. >> no. and they are not in line with the public on this, tucker. when we're talking about late-term abortions, when we are talking about third trimester, all right, every poll, almost every polll shows three quarters of people in this country oppose that.

that includes the majority ofof democrats. after 20 weeks. it's two thirds of americans. where was the outrage when the new york abortion law was passed? instead, what we're seeing is alyssa milano relevant back when clinton was being impeached giving avenatti kind of time on other networks because now she is the person that is going to tell us what's right and what'ser wrong. and that's everything that's wrong with media because we ares counting on experts like that from the show charmed i loved her and whose the boss. that was a long time. >> tucker: moral leader alyssa milano. joe concha,, have a nice weekend. >> happy weekend. >> tucker: bill nye is the leader of the pro-science movement. now he has a fiery and vulgar message to spread the word about global warming. that's next. ♪ n >> what i'm saying is the planet is on [bleep] fire. there are a lot of things we can do to put it out. are any of them free? no, of course not. nothing is free, you idiots grow [bleep] up.

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>> live from america's news headquarters i'm trace gallagher. the u.s. reaches a deal to remove tariffs on steel and aluminum imports from canada and mexico. the president imposed the tariffs were a key road that claimed four metals with a threat to national security. block to a new trade deal between the three countries. president trump imposed the tariffs last year using a rarely used provision of a a strong and very positive step for the entire region. stormy weather this weekend, strong storms, hail and damaging winds through western oklahoma with a more severe storm threat saturday morning.

stormy weather with possible tornadoes in the forecast through saturday afternoon, now back to the tucker carlson tonight show. >> all this week we investigate homelessness in the country and wen plan to show how much the problem has grown but even we were shocked by the scale of the epidemic in the places we visited. the homeless with rich economic hubs san francisco but postindustrial cities, college town and rural areas. the investigation was a little bit stronger than we thought it was going to be. and the reaction has been r much more profound than we anticipated, too. in sacramento, police performed a warrant sweep at the city's river front encampment the day after our package aired. 30 people were arrested. most of the encampments

remain and threatening the structural integrity of the city's live system. in seattle we reported the shocking drug problems encampment off of interstate 5.ep police raided and huge quantities of cracks, heroin, methamphetamine, marijuana and that chetys -- machetes and firearms. they even took a toward. they plan to evict the residents and clear that camp next week. small camps are like unequal to the problem which again is growing. the fact is homelessness is america's forgotten w w crisis. beltway journalists spend their days in twitter competitions trying to prove they are the best at hating trump or opposing russia. career bureaucrats obsessed over toppling governments in iran or venezuela. they refuse to acknowledge the problemsno steadily eroding the country we actually live. in america's homeless population is huge and growing according to the government even as the homeless population rises the number of people in shelters is dropping. that means more people on the streets, more garbage. more needles, more human waste.

more human misery. of course, we could build more shelters and provide for treatment for mental illness and addiction. we couldld clean up parks and sidewalks and river banks. local governments have shown themselves bizarrely unwill to do any of that. those strategies would help but they don't confront the underlying problem. why are so many people winding up living outside in this country? to answer that question would require investigating and fixing far deeper ailments opioids must be treated likee what they're. they the single greatest public health crisis to face america since the spanish flew a century ago. we need to find a real way to lower housing prices and find a path for working class people to own homes instead of selling the country to chinese investors and prioritizing returns of real estate which is what we now do. we need to honestly address the collapse of families. implement families that keep them together or at least try. we need to stop viewing struggling americans as defective people that deserve to a be replaced by

superior foreign immigrants the pelosi model. but, perhaps most of all we need to look at the way madernity is destroyinge people. modern careers and culture are makingle people depressed, addicted insecure. let's be honest. in some cases, many cases making themki insane. for these problems the homeless are just the most visible reflection of much greater societal emergency. some of these problems are easy to solve. others are not. but homelessness is an american crisis and it's getting worse. we promise to continue covering it as long as it takes for things to get better. because a country as noble and prosperous as ours should never have people living in tents in public parks. well, it's one of the most memorable segments this show has ever run. we debated engineer and tv personality bill nye falsely called the science guy about global warming. >> it'ss not an open question. it's a settled question.

human activity is causing climate change. >> to what degree? >> to a degree that it's very serious problem. >> tucker: to what extent is human activity responsible for speedings that up? please be more precise: so humans would change. s>> climate catastrophically fast. >> tucker: shouldn't would he be encouraging people to ask honest questions which i am doing and you don't seem to have the answers. >> i claim i do have the answers.ve >> tucker: o okay. >> okay. >> tucker: answers but he had no numbers at all. he had no facts whatsoever for a science guy there was no science. a lot of yelling. but he has been rewarded for it shortly after that interview bill nye got a netflix show which featured a song about sex. we couldn't air that here. but he has kept going. is he back with another warning about the planet. here is bill nye the falsely named science guy. >> by the end of this century emissions keep rising the average temperature on earth could go up another 4 to 8 degrees. what i'm saying is the planet is [bleep] fire.

[laughter] there are a lot of things we could do to put it out. are any of them free? no, of course not. nothing is free you idiots [bleep] up. you are not children anymore. i didn't mind explaining photo sin sis to you when -- photosynthesis to you when you were 12. you ares adults now. this is an actual crisis, got it? [laughter] safety glasses off mother [bleep]. [cheers and applause] >> tucker: unlike bill nye judith curry is actually a climb toggle and sciences -- climatologist and scientist at georgia tech and climate forecast applications network. professor curry, thanks for coming on. >> thanks, tucker, it's always a pleasurable. >> tucker: you are a person of science. you devoted your life to science. when you see the video that we just played, which is how science is presented to television viewers, does that look like science or propaganda to you? >> propaganda, definitely. it's nonsensical and it's

scaring children. it's an issue of very big concern to me. >> tucker: what is the issue of concern? the effect of this kind of propaganda or the underlying claims thatnd he is making? >> well, the exaggerations and the vehemence and the profanity, i mean, it's a lot of it. i this is not -- this is not sober, carefully reasoned scientific arguments. i mean, this is just nonsense, really. >> tucker: so tell us how the sober climatologist views climate change as of right now may 2019. how upset or not of you of climate change? o >> well, there are reasons for concern. there are reasons to try to better understand it. i don't -- any predictions

of warming in the 21st century beyond 3 or 4 degrees fahrenheit are very difficult to justify and there are reasons to think that it wouldn't even be that high. so, i mean, we don't really know how the climate of the 21st century will play out. there's a lot of things that are ignored in the climate model projections that we should also be looking at. and i mean, we just don't really know. and there is a lot of overconfidence and. >> tucker: this looks like politics thenuc to me. so, the posture of science is exactly what you are displaying right now which is, you know, hedging, total honesty what we know and don't know. i never hear anybody say there are things we don't know about the climate. why? why don't they admit that? >> i think they are afraid that the will to act will be

reduced if scientists are actually honest a about what we don't know. it's, again, climate scientists are becoming politicians and this is not a good thing for science. >> tucker: no. it's not. it's scary. and so it's always nice to have you on this show. nagain, an actual climatologist just so we can show the contrast between people who do science and people who just pretend to. judith curry, thank you very much. p >> thank you. >> tucker: this is a divided moment in america, of course. takes a lot to bring the left and right together. the democratic party has succeeded in doing that by its insanity. two very different women's groups teaming up to fight a law called the equality act which would change america profoundly and forever. they join us next after the break ♪ there was a moment, my son i believe was about four,

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>> tucker: china is rapidly rising as an economic super powerna that rivals the united states. one reason they have been able to get to where they are is through extensive investment in their own country. they used to be something that america was quite good at but now we are not. we are falling behind. america's economy is now dominated by finance n and companies short-term focus on shareholder profits rather than o on long-term investment that might save the country from being overtaken by its enemy. florida senator marco rubio released a report on all of this he came on to talk about it. here is what happened. >> tucker: tell us about the reports that you just issued. >> yeah, look, i mean, i'm a supporter of the free enterprise system. the prefree enterprise system works when companies and innovators make a profit

and obviously stay in business but they also reinvest some of that profit back into the business to innovate a new project or expand it through the market. that's not what's been happening in the united states sings the 1970s, percentage of overall economy into the future declined as research on behalf of the government has asrc well. meanwhile our competitors are increasing the amount that they are investing in the case of china their government is doing it correctly. in additionit to all the other things they do for these companies like protect them against competition and the marketplace. steal incident electric -- intellectual property discriminate against our companies. when you extrapolate this out long term we have a big problem on our hands. all of this is driven by policy decisions that we have made. there is nothing inherently evil or wrong by returning profits to shareholders that's a positive thing. when that is what the system is built around entirely then companies have no incentive, frankly continue to vest in the future. their workers become a line on their budget and the lower they can get that number the better off the outsourced jobs.

and then you don't invest the ideas d of the future and ultimately you get overtaken. we will wind up in a place not only is the work being done overseas but eventually the innovation is being done overseas as well. we need to reverse course or be overtaken here. >> tucker: i don't think any honest person would disagree with a word you just said. what do you do about it. >> i think there are things in ourur incentives. we have got to rook at ourselves. we havee made policy decisions that have exacerbated this. to start with our labor markets and labor laws are complicated. all sorts of regulations. things that increase the icost of work here. we have got to reimagine our higher education t system. it isn't just about four year degrees. there is incredible jobs and many of them don't exist here because frankly we are not trainingre young americans to do that work. that's important as well. on top of that i do think there is a function for government, not big government but a government in basic research for example and internet with the government project not al gore's projectje but a government project initially. nsa has led to a lot of projects commercialized.

ultimately we have to reorient our laws to make invest wanted a priority. for example, if you want to return money to shareholders with a buy back, that's fine. you many be taxed the same you a would as a dividend. if you are going to reinvest your profits in building for the future, that's where you put yourfe tax preference. that's where you make for example expensing permanent incentive of tax code. treat everything fairly but incentivize the behavior good for america ultimately our job is to identify the right priorities and have public policies that reflect those priorities. >> tucker: why wouldn't the tax code make that easier? that seems like a no-brainer? very quickly, could you get bipartisan support for that, do you think? >> well, here's the problem with it the answer for the concept i think i could. the problem is on the right we have a party in the republican party that still largely built on the model of the financial industry that you judge the health of your economy sole lie by what the stock market did today. the stock market is a relevant point but the stock market cant be zooming or booming and a country could be hurting because the country can't findnd jobs. that in and of itself

doesn't tell you everything. their argument is yes let's raise taxes on things like buy back so we can use it to grow government. i think the common sense approach is to say there are certain things that are critical for america's future, the dignity of work for our people is one of them in addition to critical infrastructure and industries that we have to be leading you the world in if we want to be safe from china and we prioritize those public policy. i think we can get bipartisan support for that idea. look at the fight on trade right now. there are people taking china's side because it's trump's idea. they don't realize yes they are a short-term pain in this fight. let meyo tell you there is catastrophic pain nut long-termm if we don't get this right. >> tucker: that is absolutely undeniable true. great to hear a republican talk like that. marco rubio, thanks very much. >> thanks for having me back. >> tucker: the equality act has the support of almost every democrat in the congress. it's already passed the house and will almost certainly become law the next time democrats have power. the bill would enshrine gender identity as protected

class under american law. that means across the country biological males would havel the right to enter women's lomber rooms, play female sports and more all by adopting a new gender identity. the act is so extreme that women on both the left and the right are uniting against it. a board member of women's election front is on the left. penny nantz concerned women for america and of course is on the right. together they wrote a op-ed opposing the equality act and came on this show to discuss why.y so natasha, first to you, why is this a bad idea? this law? >> as basic because human beings can't change sex. you know, this is just a fundamental material reality. the sky is blue, human beings can't change sex. having the law demand a belief in something that's not true creates a lot of problems.

too many to list, really. [laughter] i'm sorry the simplicity of your answer is so wonderful. i'm really struck by it. [laughter] >> at base what it does is it abandons women's safety protections and punishes men for good behavior essentially like, you know, there was a teacher in florida who was punished of because he refused to supervise a female student in the locker room. she said she was a boy. she wanted to change with the boys. and he didn't want to look. and i i would think as a feminist like that's how i want all the men in my life to act. that's how i think most women want their fathers and brothers and sons to act and their co-workers when they show up to work like you have a t chance to cop that peek and you are like no, no. that would be wrong. the equality act says basically that's a civil rights violation.it that's bigotry. i don't think any good is going to come of that. >> tucker: i think that's very nicely put. penny, i know you have followed legislation, you

are an expert on this. how universal is the support for the democrats for this bill. >> it's very wildly supported and to the point we are working right now in the house of representatives. nancy pelosi is pushing it through and it very well may pass. we have a a lot to do against this. and i'm so proud of natasha and her group for standing for it and taking leadership because there are all kinds of women on the left and the reright who agree with this that these policies are so insidious and we won't speak up and we won't be bullied and cow tell to the left on this. there is a lot of work to be eddone. i'm happy to safe that i truly believe president trump sees our point on this issue and iel we are hoping to see a statement of administration policy from the left on this. -- white house on this. this has such far reaching consequences that people

that don't agree on almost anything have put everything else aside toel say we have to step forwardse and protect women and children against this horrible insidious policy. >> tucker: i think that's the right thing to too. tasha, i'm really struck by the abuse that people in your position take for taking the position that you do.. >> yeah.h. we --ea last year we had a conference andad we had to -- we to hide on the way in and duck under the car because gender identity activists had called everywhere one of my friends, neighbors had called the town counsel. she was being threatened with all kind of things. government kicked off making hood mailing list we had to change the date and say it was a different day and sneak in and be very quiet and hoped no one showed up. of the weekend before think big burly guy had says i wanted to see the women. we didn't want to be seen. we just wanted to have a quieted little meeting

amongst ourselves. and that shortly after that was when i, i published an op-ed in the federalist because i was becoming very concerned that would be the very violent nature of the threats that we get online that something would happen to us and nobody would even notice. nobody would even know about it. t >> tucker: the thing that threatens them the most i think is the fact that you are willing to go outside of the normal boundaries andd make common cause with someone you agree with on this issue. that is a real threat to them because you are breaking the coalition. anyway, thank you both for come on. god speed we appreciate it. >> thank you for having us. >> tucker: a conservative filmmaker is running for president as a democrat. will he make the debate stage? what is his agenda? he joins us next to explain. plus, the way any country treats animals says everything about his people. the presidential daughter-in-law lara trump is fighting to eliminate abusive puppy mills. is he here to tell us why next.

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>> ♪ >> tucker: the democratic presidential primary attracted almost two dozen candidates along with bill de blasio. i'm not sure he rates as a serious candidate, but he's running. it is the biggest and most chaotic democratic primary in american history, but it's not over. more people are getting and

including filmmaker horowitz who is going to disrupt it and add insanity to the process. here is his announcement. >> my name is horowitz and i'm for the democratic nomination to theresident of united states and the democratic party the party of socialism come open borders and late term abortion or spirit so radicalized over the past several years that i felt compelled to try to bring some sanity into discussion. >> tucker: he joined us recently to discuss his run. this is what he said. >> we've had you on the show many times and enjoyed everything you said and agree with everything you said. i don't think u.s. classic democratic presidential candidates. are you allowed to do this? to run? >> absolutely come as long as you are a registered democrat which i am a registered democrat and you are allowed to run and

as long as you can raise 65,000 --- 65,000 donations as little as a dollar. >> tucker: those are the only rules. a registered democrat was 65,000 donations of $1 pete. >> you can qualify with the polls, it gets wonky and i don't want to bore you but essentially if you can raise $1, 65,000 individuals, you are on the list. >> tucker: it is entirely possible thatt you could end up on the debate. >> we are in a thousand donations, $10,000 but 24 hours and the first major media i'm doing. it is totally possible. >> tucker: what would you do, what will you do if you qualify for the debate? >> the reason i'm doing this the democratic partyaw has been decisively moving to the left. it becomes so radicalized and become the party of like i said to come open borders which ninth

of the country doesn't believe it, and they are running away from the word capitalism which is more wealth to more people and lifting people out of poverty then man has created but running away from it. i want to build the debate stage from intellectual hand grenade and a very unsafe space intellectually for those people. >> tucker: based on what you are saying, they are platforms when they are articulating doesn't have popularar support t all. >> and destroying themselves. i'm looking to save the party not hurt them. i want to make sure to move back to the center where they belong. i think patrick matt hanahan, jfk type of democrat. those are the things i believe in and i will bring that back to the party. >> tucker: free speech, strong national defense. >> things they don't believe in anymore? >> tucker: do you think they will let you? >> i hope so. they had tom who said the most

open, intellectually open, diverse, diverse candidates they have had because so hurt and stunned by the criticism that they got when essentially tookst it away from bernie and gave it to hillary for superdelegates. they don't want the stigma anymore and trying to make it open. that is why so many vying to possibly get on the debate stage. >> tucker: i think it would be better than cory booker. >>vi kill cory booker. >> tucker: so deserved. >> thank you. >> we watch every twist and turn up your presidential campaign, congratulations. i can't wait to see you on 'sage. you will crush it. thank you. the way society treats itsho weakest members especially dogs, says a>> lot about it and lara trump is the president's daughter-in-law and senior advisor on the 2020 reelection campaign. an op-ed with america to crack down on proliferation of puppy mills where dogs are bred for sale and sometimes horrifying conditions.

lara trump was here to talk about the problem and this is what she said. so puppy mills, what is a puppy mill and what should we do about it? >> puppy mills are a main given to really bad dog -- dog breeding facilities and sadly we have a lot in the country. the conditions of these dog are kept with horrifying people. they are in stacked cages and ilnever get let out side. the female dogs are bred basically until they can't read anymore and oftentimes they are killed. no access to water, no access to food whenever they need it. it is really awful and sadly, a lot of people go out and buy a dog and they don't realize that all comes from a place like this. as a country we have 70% of people that have a pet.er these are family members. not just pets but family members to all of us. >> tucker: that is for sure yes. >> we need to treat them better. our society demands it in something i'm passionate about. >> tucker: so am i.

good for you. i think most normal people are. this is across the political divide. what can we do about it, and why are people able to mistreat dogs and not go to jail? >> fortunately we have a president in office tucker writing a lot -- a lot of wrongs. the obama administration ignore this andtr ignored many, many years but the usda and trump administration now has put forward a rule that they would like the public to comment on and essentially that would say all the dog breeding facilities and the country have to raise their standards. you have may 21st to comment, usda website and i will put something up on my twitter if you want to look it up. >> tucker: thank you. >> we owe it to the dogs in the country, not only are they members of our family, but you see that we have military dogs. we have service dogs across the country and as a person that has rescued dogs my whole life, i

can tell you they just make your life so whole and we await to them to do the right thing here. i would encourage people to go comment on this rule until the usda you will agree with them. kudos to them and the trump administration for finally addressing something that has gone unaddressed for far too long. >> tucker: i hope you put that twitter up. thank you, laurette great to see you tonight. >> thank you so much. we are out of time tonight and we will be back monday and every weeknight 8:00 p.m. the show that is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness and group think. have the best weekend with the ones you love. sean hannity is up next. ♪ >> welcome to a special edition of hannity. i sit down with mark levine for an entire hour. his book, "unfreedom of the press." we'll start at the nation's founding, remembering the once great press tradition in america and how it end