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government was doing during that period. if we are worried about foreign influence, we should worry whether government officials abused their power and put their thumb on the scale. i am not saying that happened. but i am saying we have to look at that. >> barr commenting on the steele dossier. >> it's an unusual situation to have opposition research like that, especially one that on its face had a number of clear mistakes and to use that to conduct counter-intelligence against american political campaign would be a strange development. i am not sure what role it played. that's something we have to look at. >> greg, i have a theory. my theory is that if you were in the obama administration at the time of the 2016 election and

you were aware of russian interference, it would seem you would welcome an investigation into the investigation. >> absolutely! but you may have heard a phrase i coined: what is good for the goose is good for the -- >> the gander. >> no for my uncle steve. >> how is he doing? >> i feed him lettuce and insects like a goose. the dems have spent 2 years doing this. do you think they will just let it go? you could use the same argument. we know that the russians tried to meddle. now we need to know who helped them. it's the same argument in reverse. the great dossier is like a bad patch of egg salad and everybody

got food poisoning. that's why cnn is red in the face. >> cnn is not mad. if you were lied to by the obama intelligence officials for 2 years and they humiliated you, wouldn't you want to know how and why that you were lied to? it seems like they have no interest in finding out what went wrong with the collusion hoax? the steele dossier and the fisa warrant, we are learning more. the fisa warrant on lisa page was based off the steele dossier. a red flag in the steele dossier said they were running this operation through carter page out of the russian embassy in miami. there is no russian embassy in miami.

in tampa. the other 2 reasons for the warrant, 2 meetings that carter page had with the russians oligarchs. both meetings never happened and they used a yahoo news article. then you have papadopoulos. we are learning this is what not started off the entire investigation. he never spoke to a russian. we have text messages between strzok and page who called misfud who started this whole thing their guy. if he is a russian agent how is he their guy? >> if i can continue on with my theory. if you are hillary clinton and you believe this election was stolen from you because the russian interfered, if you believe that's true and the obama administration did the right thing, wouldn't it be a good thing for her argument for the people to be see what the origins of the investigation were? >> right but that's not what is

going on. what is going on is an investigation of the investigators as punishment coming from an administration that is overwhelming political. they are distracting from the real news this with silliness. we will soon he transcripts of what michael flynn's lawyers said to trump's lawyers. listening to bill barr he has no reason to do anything. he says, let's not talk about the spying. i know i said that earlier. what about what happened between the time trump was elected and the time he takes office. let's look at the fbi intelligence agencies talking to trump and trump tower. did they leak something? he just changes the game time and again. that's why when you look at the fox news poll that came out yesterday, it says 45% of

americans believe that barr is covering up for trump and not being transparent. they give him a negative rating for how he handled the mueller report. 44% say they don't approve of what he has done with the mueller report. >> if that makes you feel better it has no effect on anything. it's a poll. >> the american people are not being hood winked by a guy who is now trump's lawyer. this is what trump wished for all along. he wanted a attorney general -- >> like holder was. the russian story is now into summer reruns. i saw it on the first run. i don't need to see it again. i know what the flynn story is about. the economy is going well. the world is peaceful. they have to keep doing the russian story. >> greg, don't look here! >> we already looked for 2

years. now we are looking in the other direction. >> the white house talking point is this investigation is done. no obstruction and no collusion. nadler has said that. >> i have a point about that. first let's hear the attorney general about the idea of destroying the documents and contempt. >> it's part of the usual political circus being played out. it doesn't surprise me. >> the house speaker nancy pelosi believes you lied under oath. what do you think of that charge? >> it's a laughable charge. it's largely being made to discredit me. partly because they may be concerned about the outcome of a review of what happened during the election. >> they are trying to discredit him because they are worried, people who worked in the obama administration and the fbi and cia, they are worried. brennan or comey.

they are worried about what bill barr and john durham and the inspector general will find. hillary clinton is quiet because the dnc and the hillary clinton campaign paid for that dossier. the whole mueller report discredits big element that were in that dossier. i want to point this out. jim comey looked at bret behar last year and said i can't say i know that the steele dossier was paid for by the clinton campaign. he was running the fbi and he didn't know that. that's hog wash. we all know it. i also read that poll, juan. here's what people said.

a majority. 58% think it's at least somewhat likely the fbi broke the law when it started investigation the trump campaign. they deserve answers. there is nothing wrong with a thorough look at it. >> they had a thorough look. what we are doing now is trying to punish the investigators. >> mueller didn't look at it! >> [overlapping talking]. >> i read the whole mueller report. he did not look at the investigators. >> you don't need mueller. pick up a newspaper. it will tell you how it started. >> the press that lied to us for 3 years. liars. >> the new york city mayor de blasio facing mockery after his

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morning. america, you have been warned. >> after 12 years today was the final episode of the big bang period and the beginning of a new combee. -- comedy. bill de blasio's presidential campaign. >> president trump called de blasio a joke and the worst mayor in the united states. de blasio quickly responding. >> hey, i saw your video. man, you looked really low energy. i think you better rest up because will need it for the elections head. we are coming for you. >> does that mean trump wants to run against de blasio. why sitting on air force one doing that video? >> he enjoys ridiculing him as every american does. you know why he is getting attention? he is a joke. people are mocking you. you won't change that with a couple of dingers. how does it feel to be laughed

at mr. mayor. this is a little blue. condon sounds like condom. it provides safety. that's a stupid nickname. >> i think we will move on. >> i am serious. he's got no mojo. people across the country will look at him and go this guy takes a caravan of vehicles to go to the gym every american. what is in the hell is the matter with you? >> we is say that about a lot of politicians. jesse, if you were joe biden, look at these pole numbers. what would you be thinking. >> i would sniff your hair. >> oh, thank you, love. >> [laughing]. >> what do you think. biden increased his lead. he is up from march.

sanders dropped some. sanders is down and biden up 4. elizabeth warren and buttigieg are up 5% since march. >> i am impressed with warren and buttigieg. he capitalized being propelled by the media and being a comfortable guy in his own skin. the warren trajectory i don't get. i am not on the campaign trail. i think she is making connections to people on the ground in early states and resonating. good for her. sanders will take a gut punch when biden officially announces. he was taking that front runner space. i do believe the comment he made about the boston bomber may have hurt him. i think it would. backers are so crazy. moderate democrats saw that and

were completely dejected. and biden, i still believe there is a chance he gets the nomination. i think he is an empty suit. >> okay. dana, look at these numbers. biden would beat trump by 11 points. up from 7 points in march. also sanders and i think it's elizabeth warren would beat trump right now. >> i think what is happening. hillary clinton won the popular vote. that's probably the same thing happening here. the question is the electoral college. on fox and friends you can look it up. he said they can expand the map. let's say they didn't. if president trump wins florida, wisconsin, and arizona, he gets to 270. that's what you need for the

electoral college. so president trump would still win there. i think it will be a close race. nobody should count either side. but president trump looks good. >> greg, you think we have to charge trump for this trip because he is making political videos on air force one? >> no, not if you are doing an official things. >> you read my notes. according to polls donald trump was the only person up on the republican stage that was supposed to lose to hillary. these don't mean anything. >> don't worry about that. >> i would just recast it in a different way. don't get so testy. whoopi goldberg, she is a liberal who lives under the worst kind of liberal. i can live under a liberal. the worst kind of liberal is a de blasio liberal. in new york city that doesn't allow for the opposing party to

sit at the table. conservatives needs liberals and liberals need conservatives. they are the yin and yang. that's how you get the best outcomes. it puts your ideas to the test. you can end up in the center and come up with good ideas. the problem is all you have in new york city, it's a 1 party system and 1 party everything. nobody bothers to vote or care. you end up with a crappy place literally. it's brutal hearing de blasio take credit for crime stats. those are a gift from the law enforcement he hates and hog-ties. that has to drive police officers crazy. this is a gift from two republican mayors and the police officers that worked under them in the current administration. >> is that like obama's economy? oh, i get it. >> what you said about new yorkers expecting basic levels

of services. new york liberals are used to good subway systems and clean streets. when you have someone come in and destroy the basic necessities they are used to under rudy giuliani and michael bloomberg, that's going backwards for them. that's one of the reasons they soured on this guy. >> you know the governor is not in charge of all of that? >> i understand that but it's more than just that. >> when you look at bill de blasio, i don't understand the reason for his candy maldonado. -- candidacy. most democrats don't understand how he is running. we talked about elizabeth warren -- >> what i heard and read is the mayor is bored. bored with his job. he hates his job. >> he's outgrown it. >> i agree. >> he wants to get out of new york city. the headline would be mayor has no soul. >> he will make us surf.

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unknown period of time. the u.s. custom officials are saying they are not currently doing that but looking at locations across the country. jesse, this is a crisis. had you a record number of apprehensions of parents traveling with children just last month. these people have to go somewhere. is something wrong with this? >> where will they go? no one wants them. people on the right and left don't want them. de blasio said we are a sanctuary city, but he was offered illegal immigrants and he said we will fight it. san francisco pelosi's town said that was considered payback. they don't want them to the border texas towns or south of the border in the northern mexican border towns. palm beach and broward are democrat counties but it's a

swing state. republicans senators. i don't think any of the local people want them. tell crush their local economy. where do you put them you? hold them and hold the families together. process them. use more judges and send them back in their asylum claims don't add up. >> these are not sanctuary city. >> you read my mind. >> new york city and san francisco are. >> he said he is going to dump them. talk about dumping people in a vengeful act. >> where would you like the federal government to put these people? >> [overlapping talking]. >> the catholic church. we always talk about the catholic church. they have been terrific. >> there are hundreds of illegal immigrants families coming in every hour.

you think the catholic church will take all of them? >> no, no, no. you hit it on the head when you talked about a lack of infrastructure in broward and palm beach. maybe they can go to mar-a-lago because trump hires them. >> the church is putting in place structures to welcome people. >> the church can't hold them. >> a lot of people want these people but they want it through a process. we don't have a process. if you look at president trump's plan. it's interesting, one is a simple question. he is asking opposed to americans and it's simple: who do you want to control your immigration? your country or the world. until you have a process the world controls your immigration. whatever ends the caravan controls immigration. that's wrong. he transformed it into a competitive thing. he said canada, australia and

japan weigh employment skills is heavily. he is turning this into a competitive race to get the best and the brightest to the country. that's a positive thing. i think that will make it harder to argue against his plan. but who makes the decisions? our country should. i would stop using the word dump talking about people. >> president trump didn't use the word dump. >> the president offered a couple of ways in his rose garden speech to change the asylum laws and so people can come into our country. also, he would change the law so people from the northern triangle are treated like canada and mexico. that seems fair. that's a common sense balanced thing. that people would vote for.

we know they will keep coming. there is pressure on the border. we have not talked about solving the problem at its source. people won't stop leaving. they will do anything to get out. desperate people do desperate things. >> to help those countries, but you have to be real about who is coming. there are economic migrants and people who are desperate. right now we have politicians who throw them into one big package. >> we have to go. >> hang on a second. it sounds like the president is just talking about people south of the border. >> we have to go. >> there are some bad operators. >> up next the unreal reason a lunch lady was fired and why "game of thrones" could cause

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talk to any bar owner. the thing that kills a business is people giving away free booze. i am just trying to make an argument. >> [laughing]. >> it's easy for a bartender to be generous if he doesn't pay for the booze. she was giving away the school's food. should be arrested. >> lock her up. >> and the child needs to go away to summer camp. a fun camp. >> [laughing]. >> i feel for her and for the boy. it's not easy. you are broke. what is interesting, she took that risk. she allowed him to do that. if you do that, you often do get paid back. they paid it back the next. >> juan? >> was it a michelle obama lunch? those are not worth $8. >> i love how you brought the obamas into this. >> [laughing]. >> is that mystery meat?

everyone hate it. >> i don't know. i forget. >> [laughing]. >> it's a good thing i didn't go to the cafeteria. i noticed two of her colleagues quit in support of her. but part of the story is the food service had a competitor come in and was looking at the school and was worried that the school district would give the business to the competitor. >> i knew there was another edge. >> this is what we are these days. we punish good people. tater tots forever. >> this is fun. check it out. >> oh my god. >> oh! >> [laughing]. >> build a slide to cut down on the 10 minute walk between the 2 streets. they shut it down after just 24

hours due to injuries. they were careening pretty hard. >> [laughing]. >> oh, look at that. >> i have been a proponent of slides as transportation since i was a kid. there was a slide that went from the first floor into the basement. it was great until billy died. slides are great. what a great idea. a shame that people got injured. >> then when someone breaking news a limb. >> this is infrastructure week spanish style. it's a little steep. i am not sure they did a lot of testing. >> i agree. >> [laughing]. >> it looks stupid. it's too steep. that's not reasonable! maybe a 5-year-old could have fun. you go on a water slide. that's like for the big boys. >> yes. >> only one at a time is no fun.

>> i wish they left it up for more than 24 hours so we this weeks of video to watch. as long as nobody gets seriously injured like a little bit hurt. i am cool with. that you know teenage boys were running home to put on their slickest track pants to get speed going down that thing. >> if you are skip work on monday over "game of thrones" unemployment are not alone. -- you are not alone. 10 million americans are expected to call in sick following the series finale on sunday. do you watch "game of thrones"? >> i watched some of it. when you work for me and called in sick due to a poorly written tv fantasy drama, i would not just fire you. i would burn your town, down with a dragon like in "game of thrones." you get to trade jobs with people. get the writers to write "game

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power. you think i can decide when i get up and what i eat. when you have power, you have responsibilities. you make mistakes and people blame you. >> jesse, you are a child at heart. >> when you are younger and you can't go on the rides at the fair. >> i am still at that point. >> at my age when you are tall enough to get there, it hurts. >> it makes me sick. >> they are not as fun. >> dana? >> bossing people around is not as fun. decision-making. you think everything will be great. i wish somebody would make decisions for me. >> every year you got older and went to something new, you realize how many more choices you had. you want to be that young kid again and didn't have to think about anything. >> choices are

i will co-write it with any doctor. callny. -- call me. if the president gave you a nickname what would you hope it would be, jesse, dirty waters. >> you had that ready to go. >> why? >> i will tell you after the break. >> [laughing]. >> dana? >> giant killer. i took a picture with brad who is 6 foot 8. >> juan? >> jed ispite. he calls me childish. >> fake. >> from the neck down. >> sexy greg. >> [laughing]. >> how about little greg? >> [laughing].

>> you have to do this when you say that. >> i don't need to do that. this is a good question from henry. how do you react to an autograph request. dana, you throw hot coffee in their face? >> and stream. it's a big honor to be asked for your autograph. >> it is. you then question is from somebody older because nobody does this. >> when they do that and they don't have a pen. yeah, sure. >> do you have a pen? >> they don't have anything to sign. that's a big problem. >> you can sign things on people. >> thank you. >> you are big time enough, carry around a sharpie with you everywhere. that's what nasa car drivers do. >> that's what i call my knife. a sharpie. >> i rarely get asked for autographs without make america

up. i look like marty feldman. when i do, it's lets go have lunch. >> i get asked a lot because i write books and you go to a book signing. i don't like it when they re-cell them. -- re-sell them. i got a request for good money actually to sign 1,000 books. >> wow. >> leather-bound editions of a book i wrote almost 30 years ago. >> i was leather bound once. >> oh my gosh. >> that will be your nickname. >> leather bound greg. if it's an older gentleman or woman i signed it as brian and then swear at them. >> [laughing]. >> a guy walks by me and says i

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what is the name he's given to the south bend mayor pete buttigieg? >> alfred p newman? >> okay, notice what she said. was it alfred p newman, greg, or alfred e. neuman? >> she soda said e, but it was p. i'm telling you, they do not keep score well on that show. >> i told them that. hey, i noticed -- >> want a rematch? >> can i say something to an intern here. also, watters' world. we have the latest on the sex strikes, so see that. politically incorrect movies that wouldn't survive today. and dana perino makes her

"watters world" debut. you know we talk about? you. >> people will be riveted. >> it's a pretty good segment. >> your turn. >> greg gutfeld show tomorrow. i've got carrie shepard, i've got john kane, i've got kat timpf and tyrus at 10:00 p.m. if you don't watch it, you're dead to me. now it's time for this. ♪ animals are great well, talk about talking softly and carrying a big stick. check out bosco. no, he's not chocolate syrup. he's a dog. a doxxing. a determined doxxing. check him out with a bridge that's in his gritty teeth. goes to show you that big things are often inside small packages. what an adorable little animal.

♪ animals are great ♪ animals are great was ♪ ♪ >> that's what they call the branch manager. juan? you are next. >> moms and dads, you know never to pick a favorite among your children but what are you doing when they are playing against each other and one of the biggest nba games of the year? how about a coin toss? how take a look at this video. bell and sonja >> del and sonja the video was done by their daughter. they are the first set of brothers to compete against each other in a conference finals here in nba history, so the parents where two-sided jerseys and share which ever one of the boys does well. go, curries, go. >> that's great. >> i will file this under southern people problems.

stop trying to bring large jars and bottles of barbecue sauce on the plane in their carry-on bags. championship barbecue cooking contest is around this time of the year and people at the memphis airport have been posting warnings about bringing a bottles of sauces that they pick up in the city through the tsa checkpoint. barbecue sauces cannot be transported in your carry on bags! >> also, it breaks. it's a problem. >> there is always that. >> gets >> great ♪ national anthem] ♪ [national anthem.

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♪ we shall be free ♪ we shall be free ♪ ed: what a wonderful time in america. we are free. and also americans waking up to the yankees first place in the al. after there last night your twins are first place in the central. pete: i do know that i do not know what day it is though. jedediah: i got to wake up to ed henry. it's tony at night and ed in the morning. pete: that's a very cool dress. jedediah: you know why you like it it's patriotic. i should have held