he did it to lots of enthusiastic applause. he has worked hard to make it happen. it was a special day. blake, you are an inspiration to all of us. most watched, most trusted, most grateful you spend the evening with us. good night from washington. i'm shannon bream. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." we are going to have the show for you in just a moment. the president, as you know if you've been following it, is speaking right now in montoursville, pennsylvania. talking about the political establishment. that is something we are going to address at some length in tonight's show.is we are going to go back to the president in pennsylvania, dip in there, we're going to see him in just a minute. don't go away. >> president trump: to protect our national security, we also imposed a 10% tariff on foreign aluminum and a 25% tariff on foreign steel. what that has done for aluminum and steel in this country is incredible. now just this month,

united states steel announced it will invest more than $1 billion to completely transform and make new mon valley, you know where this is? it's right next to pittsburgh. does anyone know? near pittsburgh, they are developing thousands of jobs, newest equipment in the world and they are going to make steel again in our country. they have been building new plants for decades. together we are putting pennsylvania steel back in the spine of america. as we defend our jobs, we are also defending our borders, and it's tough, as i said. no betrayal of american workers has been worse than the democrat party's pursuit of open borders.

they want everybody to come in, and they are coming up by the thousands, and i will tell you what. our border patrol, ourur law enforcement i.c.e. are working, they are apprehending 30,000, 40,000, 50,000 people. the laws are so bad. if you don't release them, they arrest you. they arrest people that are working in law enforcement. it's a disgrace. democrat backed policies have left our borders open, our detention facilities overwhelmed. as fast as we build them, they fill up. hospitals, schools, publicic resources overburdened. our country is full. we don't want people coming up here. our country is full. we want mexico to stop. we want all of them to stop. our country is packed to the gills. we don't want them coming up.

>> [chanting]] build the wall! build the wall! >> president trump: democrats claimed to take care of the poor. that's what they want to do. it's not happening that way.y. the poor are being hurt. the middle income are being hurt. we would lose our businesses. we would lose everything if we go with the people that you see that are running for office. we saw that last night. i watched alfred e. neuman. what's going on with fox by the way? what's going on there? they are putting more democrats on than you have republicans. something strange is going on at fox. something very strange. did you see the guy last night? i didn't want to watch. you always have to have -- watch the competition, if you call it that.

he was knocking the hell out of fox. someone's going to have to explain the whole fox deal to me. democrats want to give welfarere and free health care to anyone who crosses the border. they want free health care, free education, free everything. republicans believe we should take care of our own people, our citizens first. we have no choice. that's why we don't want them to come. that's why my administration has published a new rule to ensure our limited supply of public housing is safeguarded for low income americans, not poor illegal aliens who are fighting to get it. we will soon be taking further action to ensure federal benefits are preserved for hardworking citizens who need them the most.

we are also outlining historic pro-american immigration reform. it's working its way through. i must tell you some of it's nog going to happen unless you vote for republicans in the upcoming election, and i will tell you it's not very far away. and you're going to have great immigration laws. people had no idea how bad they were or remember even three or four weeks ago there was -- there is no emergency at the border. now everybody is admitting i agree there's an emergency. i've been saying that for two years. the choice is simple. republican policies protect u.s. workers. democrat policies protect smugglers, traffickers, and even criminal aliens. and drug dealers like you've never seen. the drugs, we're capturing them. we don't let them go. we capture them. we do it very, very -- sadly, it's most like you have

drug dealers coming into oury, country and making our people sick. and we're capturing them. just one example, the sanctuary city of philadelphia released a previously deported illegal alien from prison rather than cooperate with federal authorities. after his release, that criminal alien raped a very young child. republicans believe our cities should be sanctuaries for law-abiding americans, not for criminal aliens. and we always stand with the heroes of i.c.e. and border patrol and law enforcement, our police have been incredible. we want to thank them. i tell you. even tonight, i see the way they are working. i hope your cameras get to see this crowd. you know, usually they'll show four people behind me. people will say was that a large

crowd? i say well, you can tell -- they can actually tell by the cheering. yeah, sounds like a big football game. sounds like a big football game. [cheers and applause] they don't like to show the crowd. i'm trying to tell thems it's really good for television to show the crowd. they show like this. three or four people behind me that will be very famous tomorrow. but they have lousy seats tonight. the issue of the democrat party, it's never been further outside from the mainstream than it is now. these people have gone nuts. more than 120 democrats in congress have signed up for bernie sanders' total government takeover of health care. tell me. many of you have phenomenal healthf care.

you have private health care. 180 million people, they want to take it away. they want to take away your 0 health care, your health insurance. they want to take it away. democrats are now the party of high taxes, high crime, open borders, late-term abortion, killing your second amendment, and radical socialism. the republican party is the party that america wants. that's what america wants. we are the party of the american worker.. we are the party of the american family, and we are the party of the american dream. every day, we make good on our motto: promises made, promises kept. we kept more promises than we've even made. you take a look at what we've done. between regulations and taxes and i mean, think of it.ha right to try.

do you know what right to try is? m i won't go into it. you don't want to be there. but now we can give them the benefit of the great research. we have the best in the world. there's a lot of great things happening. i signed it eight months ago.he a lot of great things happening with the right to try. we passed the largest package of tax cuts in the history of our country. we eliminated 30,000 pages of job-killing regulations from the federal register, and that's an all-time record. >> tucker: we have kept more promises than we've even made, said the president of the united states. president trump speaking in pennsylvania. if and when he makes news this hour -- he likely will. the president speaking about the politicalnn elite. themes that help define the presidential race. kirsten gillibrand is in that race and not just a candidate but a living metaphor. gillibrand has lived a

remarkably fortunate life. until about ten years ago, she was a member of congress. nobody outside the rural district in upstate new york and never heard of her. she was considered an average member of congress, maybe a little bit below average. one day hillary clinton decided to run for president and gillibrand hit pay dirt. she was plucked from obscurity and handed one of the safest senate seats in america.a. overnight, gillibrand became a national figure without even having to win an election. amazing. it was the political equivalentr of inheriting a billion dollars. maybe not surprisingly, gillibrand's views changed accordingly. she soon adopted the politics of the trust fund left. before long, there wasn't a fashionable opinion she didn't have on any topic, guns, abortion, immigration, you name it. as her friends in aspen and martha's vineyard became moree decadent and more contemptuous of the country around them, so did kirsten gillibrand. by this past weekend when she appeared on "face the nation," gillibrand was arguing againsthe

continuing to operate the united states as a sovereign country. let everyone in, she demanded. detaining anyone is immoral. watch. >> you oppose even what the obama administration did in terms of keeping families together or keeping them together for a longer period of time in detention? >> as president of the united states, i wouldn't use the detention system at all. >> homeland security is saying hundreds of thousands of peoplea are crossing the border and they need to go somewhere before their asylum claims are heard. what would you do with them? >> they don't need to be incarcerated. if they are given a lawyer andnd given a process, they will follow it. >> tucker: hundreds of thousands of people, millions of people over time. where will all those people go? they won't go to kirsten gillibrand's neighborhood obviously. o they are not headed to martha's vineyard or aspen or southhampton obviously but they are going to dying industrial cities gillibrand believes could use more democratic voters. >> the state of new york takes

refugee families into our communities. we would be delighted to take refugee families into cities like buffalo and syracuse and rochester and albany.ak >> tucker: think for aba minute about what gillibrand is saying. she is arguing anybody from t anywhere in the world must be allowed into the united states, ordered a publicly financed lawyer, given a free place to live along with free health care and schools, all of which you pay for, and allowed to stay indefinitely unless they lose a court case that, by the way, they will definitely show up for. that's her core assumption. the people who have demonstrated contempt for our laws will arrive in court when asked. gillibrand trusts them to do that and why wouldn't she? that's the whole immigration argument she's making, which is unlike you, regular americans who are lazy and stupid and not worth helping, immigrants are basically perfect. they are smarter, more industrious, more creative than you or any of your neighbors. they believe.

the facts suggest a more complicated picture. recently i.c.e. launched a pilot program to conduct dna tests ofe adult and children arriving at el paso and mcallen, texas. when they checked, they found nearly a third of the kids were not related to the adults they were with. it was fraud on a massive scale. it also revealed something far darker. reveals our deliberate failure to protect our borders has made our own government party to the. trafficking of children. o it would be hard overall to design an immigration system that's worse for our country. but democrats don't care. to a party totally controlled by identity politics, everything is about race or gender or sexuality. nothing else matters, including reality. watch congresswoman maxine waters explain. giving preference to immigrants who speak english is -- can you guess that?

racist. >> some of that is very racist. it's not keeping with what this country is supposed to be all about. >> what exactly is, so our viewers know? >> this business that you must speak english. we're going to give you points to speak english. we don't want poor people. we only want those people whoo are earning substantial wages already. i think some of those policies are racist. >> tucker: imagine the cnn anchor asking of maxine waters, just to be specific, what is racist? everything, of course. in this case, she and virtually everyone else in her party is arguing that americans have nond right to want immigrants who speak english. americans have no right to want immigrants with job skills. nancy pelosi explained that last week. americans have no right to decide how many immigrants come here or how long they stay, and yet as kamala harris and joe biden and others have just told us, americans are required to pay for free health care for everyone who comes, along withth housing and education and lots of others. got that?fo you can see where all this is heading and fast. in france, they are nearly there.

this was the scene at charles df gaulle, the country's biggest airport. yesterday, hundreds of illegal immigrants from africa took ovea a terminal to make political demands. >> [chanting] >> tucker: at one point, the leader of the demonstration chanted this into a loud speaker. "france does not belong to the french. everyone has a right to be here." kirsten gillibrand would agree with that. america for americans? that's racist. you don't deserve your own country. gillibrand and her friends on the left, america is not a nation. it's a pinata filled with 200 years of treasure. get some before it's gone. that's what gillibrand is promising the world. how long before groups of angry illegal immigrants protest here? where is our share of the

spoils, the one that kirsten gillibrand told us about. that day is coming soon. our first guest is here to respond but a reminder, we are monitoring the president's speech in pennsylvania. if he make news, we'll bring you right to it. for now, we're going to talk to tom homan, former acting director of i.c.e. he has been following this story closely. thank you for coming on. please assess as an expert, kirsten gillibrand's demand that we not put people awaiting asylum hearings in custody. >> it's ludicrous. she honestly didn't do her homework. she didn't study the data. she didn't study history or look at immigration. the reason family units and children are coming right now in record numbers, unprecedented numbers, it's because they know we can't detain themts all. because of the ninth circuit decision. that's why the numbers have skyrocketed. her answer to that is detain less.on that's called cause like you've never seen. you think the numbers are bad now? that's the problem.

when politicians like her say things like we don't want to a detain anybody. she wants to support sanctuary cities. we have the open border attitude where people are enticed to come here illegally and put themselves in the hands of criminal organizations to come to this country. that's why they're coming. 93% of every person i.c.e. removed last year wasre removed from a detention bed. when you get released, chances are you will never be removed. last year, 47,000 people got ordered to remove in absentia, which means they didn't show up for court. we are on the path of 70,000 this year. people on the border, 49%, almost half never follow-up an y immigration court. 86% of families do show up. 86% of half. the question is how many abide by the order of the federal judge? 2%. 200,000 family -- >> tucker: i just heard gillibrand say she trusts people who have already flouted our laws to show up once they're given a taxpayer-funded lawyer.

>> she's not that smart or she's not doing her homework. >> tucker: she doesn't care. >> people like that push that message out and entice more people to come with open borders policies, we had another child died in custody today. this isn't just enforcement law. it's about the language she uses and things she says and other democrats that entice people to put themselves in the hands of criminal organizations. if they want to blame, who's to blame for the child dying? they need to look in the mirror. when you start preaching open borders, we won't detain you, that's when more people come. that's when we're going to lose the border. >> tucker: why don't we just demand that people apply for asylum in one of our embassies or consulates in virtually every country in the world? >> we should do that, and what kirsten gillibrand don't understand is when the family units first started coming, i'vd built a family detention center. we held families long enough to see a judge. it took 40, 45 days. nine out of ten lost their case.

we sent them south. the numbers on the border declined significantly. the ninth circuit says you can only hold them for half as much time as it takes to see a judge, numbers. if they are fleeing fear and persecution, why would they not want to be detained in the family residential center and make their claim? >> tucker: because it's a scam, as you know, and as kirsten gillibrand knows but she doesn't care. tom homan, thank you. another reminder, we are monitoring the president as he speaks in pennsylvania. h we're going to bring you more of the event. democratic presidential candidates are not just running to be the chief executive the country. they're also running high priest, america's supreme moral authority. in a new religion of american liberalism, no sacrament isis holier than abortion. so holy that any restrictions or any limits at all are a mortal sin. watch mayor pete buttigieg explain that on fox news last night during the town hall.ut

>> do you believe in any point in pregnancy, whether it's six weeks or eight weeks or 24 week' or whenever, that there should be any limit on a woman's right to have an abortion? >> no, i think the dialogue has gotten so caught up on where you draw the line that we have gotten away from the fundamental question of who gets to draw the line? i trust women to draw the line.h >> tucker: obviously he is a slippery demagogue but the point is the same. no, no limits whatsoever to the moment of birth. dr. alveda king is martin luther king jr.'s niece.r she is director for civil rights for the unborn and she joins us to assess this. thanks very much for coming on. when you hear a leading presidential candidate say there are to be no limits at all to abortion, what's your reaction? >> tucker, i think it's veryor unfair he's putting a terrible burden on women and women who

are faced with the issue or the question of abortion. i would say, a long time ago, with not enough information.n. a lot of secrets and trying to make my own decisions. to say to a woman, you make this decision. i trust you to make this decision. she could've been the victim of rape, incest, abuse, a college student has to try to figure out how i'm gonna finish college and help my family. there's too many things a woman has to consider. you're going to put this terrible burden on a woman alone and give her the whole responsibility? and then without reminding her that another person inside of her body who should have civil rights as well. so you ignore the motherly instincts, the natural instinct of most women who are about to be mothers, and at the high crisis period, you say i just trust her to make the decision. then you want to legalize

abortion all the way through nine months. it's just too much. it's immoral. >> tucker: it is. alveda king, thank you. it's great to see you. we're going to be right back. the president just wrapped and we will be back on the air in just a moment. t be back on thed chicken?! chicken. chicken! that's right, candace-- new chicken creations from starkist. buffalo style chicken in a pouch-- bold choice, charlie! just tear, eat... mmmmm. and go! try all of my chicken creations!

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yeah. in return for that, america got weaker and more divided, not stronger. there are still governmentak factions, by the way, pushing america toward more wars in syria and iran.ov why? in a weekend interview with steve hilton, the president gave a remarkably clear and honest answer to that. watch this. >> president trump: don't kid yourself. you do have a military-industriall complex. they do like war. you know, in syria with the caliphate, so i wipe about 100% of the caliphate, i say i want to bring our troops back home. the place went crazy. they want to -- you have people here in washington, they never want to leave. >> tucker: they never want to leave. and so we are still there. douglas mcgregor is a retiredan u.s. army colonel and author of the fantastic book "margin of victory." colonel, thank you for coming on. i've never seen a president be that honest about anything. he announces we are pulling all american troops out of syria. he noted that the place went

crazy. washington. we are still there. what happened? >> the president by now i think understands that he is surrounded inside the white house and within the administration by people who are part of this bipartisan globalist elite.e. in other words, the inner circle of advisors, whether it is john bolton or mr. pompeo from the state department or any number of other people, alongt with the general officers, the four stars in the senior intelligence operatives and officers, all of whom have risen to great rank over the last 20 years as a result of their participation in these strategic failures that you are discussing. absolutely committed to stopping any change. they are defending in their minds what's left of the postwar liberal order that really crumbled back in the early '90s with the dissolution of the soviet union. the notion of removing anyoner from anywhere is anathema to those people. finally, there's a possibility

that if you start withdrawing forces, which, by the way, in most cases are not needed where they are today at all, two things will happen. first of all, you're going to erode the support for the authorization for the use of military force and the slush fund, $200 billion overseas contingency fund that's part of this massive spending exercise that congress loves. secondly, you're going to watch as the various actors in places like syria and iraq and elsewhere, russians, syrians, iranians, turks and others, all fall out with each other,yr which normally you would regard as a strategically positive development. but we seem to want to force cohesion on them. give them a reason to stayen together and essentially ally against us. >> tucker: watching the president say that as clearly as he did, do they give you a sense of a man being kind of held captive almost by the people around him? i wanted to pull out the troops in syria. they wouldn't let me, that's really what he's saying. h >> it's depressing. two things, the president should remember.

at the end of the day, his is the voice that counts in the white house. he is the commander-in-chief. he's under no obligation to take more bad advice, to drink more poison from the poison well. when he looks at these people,e, when he looks at the four stars that march in there, active and retired, when he looks at the various advisors, and his staff, not just john bolton but all of them, he needs to remember something.g. all these people are putting into practice something winston churchill once said. success consists of moving from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm. they have taken this to an extreme. he needs to get rid of them. >> tucker: i'm sorry to laugh but it's a perfect quote in this case. do you think there's hope for getting out, just to pick a small example, of syria? >> of course, absolutely. j but when mr. bolton runs in the room or the chairman of the joint chiefs says you can't do that, the world will end. he has to say thank you for your interest in nationalt defense. we are leaving. see what happens.ay i think what he'll see is what

we discussed, the falling out with the various actors that will begin to -- >> tucker: it's not just them. it's the entire on-air staff of msnbc and cnn then the rest of them.it colonel mcgregor, thank you very much. recently, tensions have risen between the u.s. and iran. on this program we've asked a couple times the obvious question, which is what purpose would a war with iran serve? there's no obvious way that it would. here's one conflict with iran that could help a few americans conceivably. in 1983, 240 u.s. servicemen were murdered by suicide bombers in beirut, lebanon. the barracks bombings. the family members of those murdered servicemen have been seeking justice ever since. several rulings have found iran's government was linked the attack but iran's government has refused to honor any judgment against it. there is a pool of money, 1.7 billion there was apparently laundered by european bank. currently the fate of this money is tied up in the federal court.

supreme court has asked the trump administration to weigh in on what should happen to the money. that was months ago. so far the administration hasn't weighed in. they still haven't submitted an amicus brief supporting the justice for the beirut families. here's a question. why not? could it be that as long as those families don't have justice it gives john bolton another justification to bomb the country? we're not sure. we don't know. we can't know. but we do know that releasing the money into the hands of the widows and survivors of those marines who were murdered would be a good thing for america. probably ought to do it. up next, robert de niro has become the latest celebrity to sacrifice his personal dignityy on the altar of politics. mark steyn responds after the break. steyn responds after the ♪ it's us. millennials. everyone's favorite. there's just one thing hurting us more than student loans: credit card debt. sure, dad, call us irresponsible.

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>> tucker: hollywood has always been a political place but wow, the rhetoric has amped up recently. actor robert de niro was

honoring al pacino at the american icon awards. what is that? who can keep up with all the self awarding. he suddenly derailed his speech to go crazy about the president. watch. >> individual currently... [indistinct] making america great again. >> completely going to get away with it without [bleep]. >> tucker: there is something about donald trump that makeser robert de niro go full "taxi driver" and always has. >> it is beyond surreal what this guy has done. >> you called him a mutt. >> every word i said then i made today. this idiot is the president. the guy is a [bleep] fool.

how dare he say the things he does. of course i want to punch him in the face. >> tucker: angry old guy. author and columnist mark steyn joins us to marvel how rich people hate trump. the more privileged you are, the madder you are about trump. >> that's the way to look at it. robert de niro lives better than 99.99% of people in the entirety of human history have ever lived. he cannot accept that a closed election in a 50/50 country didn't go his way. this is deeply bizarre. you mention -- i have never heard of these american icon awards and i think it's a stupid title. in australia they have an award called national treasure which again doesn't seem like the kind of thing you get nominated for. these kind of names are in the gift of the people and the general mood. but if you do actually have something called an american icon award, then the guy has to

be an icon for all americans, including the 60 whatever million people who voted for trump. it's not just the hollywood partisan icon awards. if i were al pacino or anybody else at risk of getting an award speech prize presented to me by robert de niro, i would start carrying the equivalent of an organ donor card saying in the event i get nominated for a prestigious award, i don't want robert de niro giving the speech. he talks about trump for 7 minutes and then says by the way, here's a statue for al pacino.o. this is ridiculous. this is beyond derangement. he has actually become more insane than travis bickle in "taxi driver." >> tucker: usually the revolutionary spirit is aimed upward. you watch this parade of the

most privileged people in our society shouting down at trump's voters, damn you, working class americans. you must be quiet. how dare you speak? has there ever been a revolution aimed down? >> it's interesting phenomenon in some ways. the elites rising up against the masses. >> tucker: [laughs] >> i think that's actually true. i saw something of it with mrs. thatcher in the united kingdom where essentially privileged elite artistic people regarded her as vulgar and lower class in the same way that they do with trump. the fact is they are killing themselves. there is a book out at the moment, the novelist of american psycho, he voted for hillary. he is gay. he's no conservative right wing.

he was dating a millennial guy and the millennial guy went full trump derangement syndrome and became impossible to live with and that's the same situation. would you want to wake up in bed with robert de niro every morning boring on about trump? they shouldn't have american icon awards. they should have best cranky embittered grandpa 40 years after his acting best award. he would be a shoo-in. >> tucker: he would definitely be in the running. i would argue there's other contenders. [laughs] >> it's a crowded field and it's not even an age thing, as we saw with the insufferable millennial boyfriend. it spans the ages among the hollywood elites. >> tucker: the great mark steyn.il thank you. great to see you. every child in school right now is taught about a mystical thing called white privilege.ld

but if white privilege is real, why is elizabeth warren and so many others trying to pretend they are not white? we will tell you after the break. ♪ we will tell you after the brea

>> tucker: if you've got a kid in school right now, it's almost certain they are learning that skin color is the key question about people, the most important thing. some children's color makes them tainted. they have white privilege and must be punished for that.nt here's a question. if white privilege is real and everyone in our ruling classn. seems to assume it is, if it's real, then why are some people pretending not to be white? it's not just rachel dolezal or elizabeth warren. in the varsity blues college student scandal, parentsit were told to invent fake nonwhite

heritage for their kids in order to improve their chances of getting into elite schools. one person who may not be surprised is joseph ingam, the author of "almost black." he joins us tonight. joseph, thanks for coming on. it does make you wonder, this is not in any way an attempt to pretend that american history isn't real, the ugly parts of it. of course it is real. but this idea that white privilege is the dominant fact of american life is challenged, i would say, by this fact. wouldn't you say? >> the varsity blues admissions scandal kind of shows white privilege is somewhat of an archaic notion. in fact, mixing or advising clients to lie, it's actually quite common for white people and asian-americans to lie about their race in order to get admissions. they call it the pocahontas factor.ra i did it. senator elizabeth warren. they do it because they know it

can improve their chance of admission. as an admissions consultant, i recommend that my clients not disclose their race. if you are asian american or white, do not disclose your race in your application for college or graduate school. it can be shown statistically to reduce your chances of admission. so the best option is not to disclose your race, which kind of indicates the opposite of white privilege. >> tucker: it kind of does, considering that and this is one of the points in your book. that elite college admissions, t that's the doorway into the american ruling class. that's one of the pivotal decisions in a kid's life is where to go to college, what colleges can i get into, right? if being white hurts who they are, how does it help exactly? >> employment as well. the truth is we are missing the point. you talk about going to an elite

ruling class. there are merit-based factors in admissions, like grades, letters of recommendation, your essays. we need to move toward a merit-based system of admission. college admissions consultants like me, rather than encouraging people to lie about their race, why don't you help them to write a more effective resume or application? or do well in an interview because by teaching someone to do well in an interview or do well in a resume, you're teaching them skills that will help them not simply to succeed in their interview or their application, but you're teaching them skills that will enable them to succeed in life. so rather than promoting a society where race is a huge factor, we should promote a society in which we focus on the merit-based factors. help people to get skills that will help them succeed in life, because that's the purpose of an education. >> tucker: amen.

i think he said it better than i could have. in the 30 seconds we have left, do you think we are moving closer to that are further away from that? >> with the new adversity score i'm just afraid we are moving away from that because the adversity score can be manipulated simply by declaring you have a different address. focus on the factors that help you succeed. those are the things that will make a difference for the long-term better of our education system. >> tucker: i sure hope so. joseph, thank you for your perspective. great to talk to you tonight. up next, smartphones and the internet allow young people to stay in constant contact with everyone they've ever met anywhere the world. so why are today's children the loneliest generation ever? there's a reason. we'll tell you after the break. (photographers) candace! charlie!

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>> tucker: thanks to cell phones and social media,

it's easier than ever to talk to people all over the world whenever you want to but, it's not working as you would expect. today's teenagers are the loneliest in america's history. in 2014, teenagers met with friends 68 there were times than they did in 1990. they have fewer dates but more depression. so what's causing all this? we put that question to one of the smartest people we know, you high gary. here's what he said. so this is one of those results at the opposite of what was predicted, >> i went to the fit ever internet rehab center in the world, and i remember when i arrived feeling really annoyed. i stepped out and i couldn't check my cell phone, it wasn't

working. i thought, all right, you're in the right place. it was a fascinating place, they get a huge range of people, disproportionately getting young men who become obsessed with these multiplayer role-playing games like "world of warcraft."n i remember dr. hilary kash and her saying to me, what are these young men getting out of these games? they are getting the things the they used to get from culture that they no longer get. they get a sense of try that, of identity, a sense that they are good at something. they get a sense that roaming around because american kids barely leave the house but what they arere really getting is the parody of those things. some have become completely obsessed with social media and video games, and those who studied it began to realize, i think the connection between social media and social life is like the connection between pornography and.

if your entire life, that's not what we evolved for. we didn't evolve to interact face-to-face. we have a huge decline in that. >> that leads to a big increase in depression and anxiety, partly a symptom. holiness had been supercharged already before the internet arrived and part of what happens is the internet arrives and it looks a lot like the things that we have lost. you've lost friends, here's some facebook friends. you've lost status in the economy? here's a status update. it's not filling the hole there. the >> tucker: so if young men specifically have lost a sense of tribe, meaning and purpose, the kind of useful risk that young men needed, -- do we have a whole generation that is right for a demagogue to show up and

say here is an identity and here's a purpose, years of risk? it's a perilous situation. >> absolutely. there is scientific evidence n r nine causes of depression and anxiety. everyone knows that junk food has taken over our diets and meet us physically sick buts there is equally strong evidence that a kind of junk values have taken over our minds. but, a lot of you think about lifes as money and status and showing off and, that's not not exactly confucius but the gist of what he said. no one scientifically investigated this, untold this professor discovered two things. the more you think about my money is about status and shoving off, the more likely you

are to become depressed andd anxious. secondly, as a society we have become much more driven by these values over time. there has been a really big increase and there's also really hopeful things there. he did a program where you just get teenagers and their parents etto meet in a group once every couple weeks for four months.ts you talk about moments they have actually found meaningful in their lives. not buying nike sneakers or how many legs they got on instagram, meaningful moments. and the key checking in with how can we build more of our lives and less about the junk the culture is constantly pumping us full of. just doing that lead to a significant shift in people's values, the values that were causing so much depression and anxiety. >> tucker: i'm not surprised by that but it's amazing that

youea are one of the very few people i hear say that aloud. reways an honor to have you on the show. >> it was my pleasure. and >> tucker: we are out of time sadly, we will tomorrow. "hannity" starts right now. >> sean: we begin tonight with the fox news alert. breaking moments ago, georgia congressman doug collins has released eight closed-door hearing transcripts fromom his commenced that my committee investigations with the we know, here it comes, this is fbi andou obama doj. we know, here it comes, this is what i've been telling you, cascading down the avalanche, we have scores of new transcripts from loretta lynch. are lying.or comey andrew mccabe, james rybicki, many other high-ranking officials. based on these newly released documents, we can now confirm one major piece of information. former attorney general