people were buying bonds for security. rate at 2.27% for 10 year note. the fallout noon tomorrow. here comes "the five." >> ♪ >> ♪ >> hello i am dana perino with kennedy. juan williams and jesse watters and cambric drug. -- and greg gutfeld. it's 5 o'clock in new york city and this is "the five." 3 different polls predict that president trump will win re-election. as the race for the white house continues to lead up the president want letting up on attacks for joe biden. ripping him for his role in the

1994 crime bill. "anyone associated with the 1994 crime bill won't be elected. african-americans won't be able to vote for you." the road to 2020 could be difficult for joe biden. he is not doing a lot of compaining. advisors say with name recognition, the former vp doesn't need to introduce himself to voters and he can attract media attention without slashing events. how long greg. will campaigning hide up to you? >> hiding biden. this didn't work for hillary. they kept hillary in a freezer.

they had her powered down. then they would charge her and send her out. nothing would happen. look, this is like three segmentes in one. first the polls. this is an all hands on deck approach. telling people that trump will win, trump will win so you better not be complacent. that's what happened with hillary. they wonill play down the democrats positive polls. i could talk about the crime bill. you can't throw the baby out with the bath water. there is some good stuff in the crime bill and biden did a good job on it. this is a new time for republicans. it used to that media, academia and entertainment industry. those were the three groups coming at republicans all the

time. they would say if you didn't vote democrat you were not cool. that was 4 decades. you were a dork if you were not a democrat. now social media. that's the most powerful. social media will play up positive stuff for the democrats on their platforms and playing down positive stuff for trump on their platforms and you won't know it. that's a new hurdle. if you have a president who a heavyweight contender defending his belt. that's what trump is. he will be trash talking all the way to the end. i just addressed 4 topics. >> good job. juan, in the 2016 primary, one of the most effective attacks and weapons that bernie sanders had against hillary clinton was the crime bill. it's strange to have the

president of the united states trying to use the crime bill against joe biden. >> it is strange. it is strange to go with greg's analogy if this is ali defending the belt, he just dropped his hands. everybody will say, mr. president, what about you when the central-park 5. people you wanted executed who were exonerated. that's how vicious and angry you were with crime. greg had another good point. i thought lots of conservatives liked the crime bill. it's not just conservatives. there are a lot of people in the black community, the majority of black caucus in congress pushed for that crime bill. >> you have to put yourself back in time. >> you had the crack epidemic. >> right. now people are out of context who don't have that memory.

just jumping on boned. -- joe biden. i don't think it will work with more democrats. it might work on the far left like black lives matter. i don't think they will say as joe biden's mistake with the crime bill, i will vote trump. >> this is why trump is a different candidate. hits joe biden on the left for crime. then he will come from the hard right on immigration or hard right on taxes. it's an unorthodox fighting style that a non-traditional candidate is not used to defending against. i don't think biden can handle those attacks. he is so traditional. he will be overwhelmed. >> we will see. what i would say for trump, i have not seen a democrat yet who is able to repeat the magic

sauce for democrats: blacks, latinos, immigrants and women >> that was the obama coalition and i don't think biden has the juice to reenact that. >> kennedy, do you think biden is creating an illusion of safety for democrats? that's why his numbers are high? >> i understand the strategy because he doesn't want to put himself out there and make gaffes before the debates. if he just lays low and rests on his moral and emerges to talk about the good old days of the obama-biden era. he is fine doing that for a little while. he is biding his time. hiding biden. >> you not a lying. >> that opens him up to a number of attacks.

the crime bill took an entire generation, men of color, and so showed they were disposable. i can't believe it's taken 25 years to right that course. we are having the most bizarre conversation with actors leading it that you would never imagine. you would never imagine that trump is leading the discussion on criminal justice reform. >> but that's how it works. you trust the hard liner to do the soft line? >> right. also you could not have this conversation in 1994. >> the crime bill decreased crime in jump a manner we can now entertain it's wrong. >> you could. >> when we talk about these things going forward, i hope it

changes the decision. i hope we talk unintended consequences. people get frustrated when we talk is socialism which is filled with some wonderful intentions. but the bad that can come of it can be so destructive and long lasting. >> people are sensitive to the crime bill front. where dana perino started the segment, people say trump has an advantage. i am surprised that anyone doesn't think the incumbent has the advantage. >> since world war ii only 2 have not won re-election. >> he's got there. it's not that it's insurmountable. i am not trying to play games like ratner was accused of.

if trump was just based on economic we would be popular. it's like the craziness he said over in japan. >> a lot of democrats watch fox news and they don't listen to talk radio and thought for 2 years the president was a russian impostor. they read this in the morning and spit their coffee out and are looking for a landslide victory. >> we hate him so much, he has to go because we hate him. that's circular logic. now you have someone smart enough to go if we talk about ou great trump is doing. >> a big day if federal court for michael avanati. the latest when we return. >> ♪ >> ♪

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life against the ultimate coliath: the trump administration. i am confident when a jury of my peers passes judgment on my conduct that justice will be done and i will be fully exonerated. >> all right. he faces 400 years. one of the things, one of the defenses he wants to investigate the investigators. >> [laughing]. >> he wants to know how this fell. >> that has a certain ring to it. >> i wonder where he got that from. >> he should enjoy today because if he will number jail 400 years he won't have many busy days. i think a jury of his peers will let him go. but the jury of legal peers frown from stealing on clients. that's the number 1 thing. >> what do you think stormy

daniels is thinking? >> is she thinking? i love he said he defends david from goliath and steals from them afterwards. he said every day he said i look forward to be vindicated. ? what? in a court of law which he denied kavanaugh. look at your own lifestyle. my favorite defense was brian defense of having creepy porn lawyer on. he is on like cable news. of course we put him on. because we put him on cnn, we will put him on cnn. that's like saying i beat the cat because my previous cat beatings made it accept to beat the cat. no logic there. >> we have not heard a lot from the media for putting this guy

on. you would think there would be self-examination: what did we get wrong? >> you would think there would be a better vetting process. i spoke to a reporter last week who easily dug up some of the questionable business dealings avanati had for years and of course avanati went after this journalist and threatened him with legal action for printing the deep. >> this stuff was out there. it was not like you had to dig. >> president trump has gone after a lot of people. sometimes it's not uncouth and unattractive. but they are not facing 400 years in prison. it's the fact he did bad things to a bunch of people over the years. some of these issues he is facing are very, very serious. and the judge napolitano laid

that out earlier on fox news. he is facing real time. anyone who wants to be a high-profile ambulance chaser, make sure your past is squeakerier than avanati. >> this looks like a case of straight greed. -- the guy with the car leases and a cool cleaning bill and multiple rolex watches and the cashmere socks. >> he could have used a $40 grand rug. >> nice plug. >> what do you think? >> if he is guilty, he should go to jail. it's despicable, especially someone you put trust in your lawyer. a couple of things. i think all of you are saying because avanati was trump's

nemesis, now he is allegedly a thief everything is cool. >> no one said that. >> trump lied about not knowing about a pavement to silence a porn star that he was having sex with. forget kavanaugh for a second. avanati is well known. this comes to your point, greg. the reason avanati with you on cable so much, a man who becomes president of the united states is accused of having sex with a porn star and said it's not true and knows nothing about payments to that porn star and it was not true. >> that was not in a court of law. >> you can say what you want about cavuto. >> [overlapping talking]. >> what happened. >> hold on.

i can't do two at once. >> bed bugs are prominent but don't contend for the presidency. that's how people in the media framed michael avanati. >> no. guess who was another prominent tv star? oh the president? >> that's no excuse for the kavanaugh behavior. they let him destroy a man's reputation based on lies. >> he made awful allegations against kavanaugh. the reason he became prominent was because of stormy daniels. >> so kavanaugh should thank michael avanati? >> in many ways. >> trump should be ashamed of stormy daniels. he paid her. avanati did not pay her. he took money from her.

>> i never denyed it. >> go figure. >> and a fake quote from president trump. greg's monologue up next. alright, i brought in ensure max protein...

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down. this turned this tiny story into a segment. if it's not clear it's a parity it's just misleading. and it's on memorial day weekend which notes the sacrifices of those who died for our country. make sure in the future your country's blood is treated as precious. we must be doing better if our military foot print and shrinking and the wars among adults are over tweets. 2 years ago we worried about missiles from kim and now it's about fake tweets heading toward him am that's progress for now anyway. i think the problem was it was plausible. >> yes. >> he is a big populist. >> i read his book and wanted to

throw it against the wall. at the end he was for non-intertension. >> you love war. >> i believe in being the policemen of the world. i saw president trump's tweet earlier. i saw that okay. whatever. it could go in my fantasy book. >> you have a fantasy book! >> [laughing]. >> are you dressed up as a policeman? >> [laughing]. >> this is going to be so good. >> tweets i never sent. and twitter. >> exactly. jesse, i feel safer now than i did with north korea. even with the tweet. it's due to trump's nature of dealing with separating the person from the country. he deals with the person which

is what sales men do. >> i think it's fine that the so-called experts fall the hoaxes and blame the hoax instead of themselves. they are not as smart as they are cracked up to be. think about everybody who is an expert fell for smollett and fell for this. it's a week of checking something and then you get on the bottom of it. i don't go on twitter anymore. i didn't go on twitter once this week. >> we told you not to tweet anymore. >> that was your intervention? >> we were trying to help you. >> the first successful intervention that ever happened with me. >> it's true. we took him in the greenroom. >> i took twitter off sean hannity's phone in 2015. >> you have been a journalist

for many years. anything that seems too perfect never is. >> absolutely. it's the rest of the story. i am surprised in that conversation in that last week trump supporters put out way distorted video of nancy pelosi looking like she was drunk. people had to say this is not real. >> you don't need to distort those videos. >> [laughing]. >> but they were obvious. >> oh, they are obvious. >> i noticeed it. >> democrats are complaining about propaganda. >> that's rich, juan. >> you are complaining about fake news. are you kidding me? when people put out stuff like this -- >> [overlapping talking]. >> [overlapping talking]. >> greg says on the show, he feels safer when you had trump

repudiating what his own national security advisor john bolton said. >> i thought you hated john bolton? >> i don't hate john bolton. what about the prime minister of japan? >> he is playing chess and they are playing checkers. >> i never heard that before. >> i just coined it. >> talking about nixon's dog. >> kennedy, thoughts and prayers. bremer is helping the president with tweets like this. you never see the onion put up a funny headline and go that's playsible. -- plausible. that's the problem. it should be so outrageous, but he puts something in the realm of plausibility. see, we told you. we have to impeach, impeach,

impeach. you are only helping him. the biggest problem is people will continue to divorce the president's action and personalities from his policy and results. the more that happens -- the great divorce, the better the president's chances are. if you run around saying everything he does is symptommatic of his insanity -- >> oh, yeah, kim jong-un is right. joe biden is a low iq fool. what, that's our president? >> it's bridging differences. >> obama did the same thing about trump. >> i want to shout out. i have been ripping up cnn. jake tapper spent memorial day tweeting out memorials of fallen soldiers. that's one area where you take the cemetery formality and transferred it over to the

superficial twitter. >> jake tapper quoted a soldier who said be an american worth dying for. >> i try that every day. >> all right. coming up, this. >> no, we are not going back to the show. should a dangerous situation, okay? >> tv weatherman unleashes on viewers who would rather watch the bachelorette over his tornado warnings. millennials. everyone's favorite. there's just one thing hurting us more than student loans: credit card debt. sure, dad, call us irresponsible. we're only dealing with insane living costs and housing costs. it's just not right. but with a personal loan from sofi, you can consolidate your credit card debt into one monthly payment. and get your future right. get your money right with sofi.

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it pre-emptheing the bachelorette. >> watch this. >> i am sick and tired of people complaining about it. our job is to keep people safe. some complained it's all about my ego. just stop right now. it's not. i am done with your people. >> he apologized for his rant but not for his message about safety. i don't think he was doing this for rating. i think it's a life-and-death situation. >> i don't think he makes the call by himself. he can influence the call about

programming. the knicks game was interrupted by the o.j. chase. you want to keep people safe and make sure they have adequate information but you don't want to insult your audience. >> it was an insult, the rant? >> yes, the rant. >> i think it's moronic to say i would rather watch the bachelorette and endanger my life. >> yes, if it's the rose ceremony not a good time for storm coverage. people would rather die than find out who got the last rose. that's stupid. all the guy had to say was i am sorry. i am getting a lot of comments about social media. this is a life-and-death

situation. that's all he had to say. it doesn't need to get on a high horse. >> so when shepherd smith came on, we is say you know what happened to the meteorologist? ohio. if there is a tornado near me, i would be scared. >> i grew up in colorado and we had tornado warnings almost every day. we taped it and we would watch a motive. but it recorded during the tornado warning. a big chunk of the motivie that was missing. i also think this a lot of people are not watching local station. they are watching netflix and prime video. we should be allowed to have a technical device that you can suppress it at your own risk.

if you don't want to know about tornado warnings, sign right here. i can watch the bachelorette. >> wow. >> that's like greg when they tell people to evacuate. >> i will just hang out here. i do fine. i get the guy's frustration. if you go through the dump and find trash, it's not the dump's fault. you know you will get nothing but superficial takes on twitter of people who are mad. it's you are looking to get angry >> yes, why is he on social media? >> when there is a tornado. >> it drives we crazy when people go on twitter and get a response and then they are the victim. people are attacking me. get off of there. it's his vocation but when "the five" is on and all of a sudden

there is breaking news. >> don't check your social media. people will get angry. >> i must say, my family goes down to the outer banks for summer vacation. they get hit by terrible hurricanes once in a blue moon. some people are like man, i am hanging out. you would like this kennedy, they go surfing. what is wrong with this? >> surfers are the best storm chasers. they go in before the storm hits because that's when the waves are perfect. a nice on-shore wind. >> did anybody watch the bachelorette last night? did anybody find out what happened? >> it was tragic. >> a new study could give women the leverage to control the temperature even in this studio. s...

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it's warmer and men thrive in colder temperatures. the goldy lock temperature for both genders is the mid-70s. jesse, 75, doesn't is that sound warm? >> i am comfortable most places. i have a new strategy since we have new offices and we have a thermostat in our office? >> our executive producer is a female megan and comes into my office to boss me around. next time she comes in i am cranking that thing down to 54 or 53. tell rattle her. she will never come in and boss me around again. >> wait, wait. >> i will freeze her out of the office. >> something to this study, warm or cold? >> my grandfather said the women in the household like it at 72 degrees. 73 we were too hot and 71 we

were too cold. >> technology is helping figure it out. a lot of brand new cars, you have heated seats. i don't like heat in my face. i like -- >> [laughing]. >> greg? >> terrible! we are dancing around the major part of in that men and women are biologically different! women metabolic rate is 23% lower. maybe because they have less muscle mass and evaporate less heat through skin pores. their hands and feet are 3 degrees colder. we must pretend at all costs, especially the media, that sex differences are fabricated by a sex culture.

>> i love cold water. i keep the temperature ice-cold. >> it's good to keep the temperature cold because it forces women to cuddle with you. >> [laughing]. >> that's frowned upon. >> what! >> [laughing]. >> the one time i left you speechless. >> because my wife is always telling me, open the window and turn on the a/c. what are you doing? >> we have 3 guys and 2 women. everybody performance very well. you hear complaints from the women it's too warm >> too cold. >> you say this on "the five" you do not like sweaters. >> yeah. i think sweaters --

>> [overlapping talking]. >> here's why. we should not need sweaters inside or outside. you don't need a second layer. >> what about being elegant? >> for people who like fashion, perhaps. >> you look silly when you have a little collar and a sweater. it's a silly look. >> oh my god. >> i like men in sweaters >> mr. rogers had 7 35 kills in vietnam? >> really. >> no, but he was a big cardigan fan. >> the crew neck is debatable. >> what is wrong with the

v-neck? >> you know what is wrong. >> [laughing]. >> what? your veins are exposed to vampires. >> some people are cheap and they keep it at 64 in december and they make fires at their house! >> have you been in the gym recently? >> what are you saying, juan. >> women complain it's too hot in the gym. dude, you want to get hot. >> that's not the program at these gym these days. it's who goes to when bathroom? >> whew! >> i like to see gender in the sauna. i choose my own adhd. >> "one more thing" is up next. it's time for our memorial day sale on the

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time now for one more thing, jesse. >> jesse: you remember this past friday? i want to address something. here is the discussion. roll it. >> what was your most memorable experience with law enforcement? >> i got pulled over by a cop and i thought i was speeding but you just wanted his picture with me. >> all right, so he said i was a boldfaced liar but guess what may have a facebook message from the police officer lieutenant layton. and he told me, tell greg my employer can't touch me now because i'm retired. >> greg: and the county magistrate had the picture hung up. [laughter] >> thank you for reaching out in michigan. >> dana: other police officers, don't have a heart attack if i get pulled over. >> greg: it is going to be

another great show july 20th, the paramount theater, as barry park new jersey. >> it is a great theater. go to the website to buy tickets because they will sell out rather fast. time for something new. >> greg, it is just a doughnut news. >> greg: so put up this hostess tweet. this really got my jaw and i don't even know what that means. new, jumbo doughnut for breakfast, you can throw it in your satchel and go. okay, jumbo doughnuts is a doughnut when you enlarge something that is miniature, it becomes normal size. so don't call it jumbo doughnuts. call it a doughnut because that is what it is. it's just a doughnut. doughnut singles. i'm so tired of the lies.

>> i like the idea with the packaging. >> greg: you do? doughnut singles sounds like a bar that you would go to. [laughter] >> greg: dating club. >> dana: so i had the pleasure of babysitting a dog names bike and you may have seen him around fox news. he is the old lab there. he is a companion dog in training. he has a dog of my producer jennifer williams. she had a procedure done this week and so we came with us for five days. and instead of having two codogs had different roles like he can't get on the furniture. he can't have human food but we all worked it out. he had a little vacation at the beach. it was a lot of fun. we put the rollbacks carves on him from a lighthouse toy that did not last long after that. we've had enough of all of that but enjoy the canine companions.

he goes to intensive training on august 9th. so just a couple of more months. >> jesse: does he have any outstanding loans? >> dana: no, he is doing just fine. >> greg: that is gross. >> juan: what is the difference between a tadpole and a salamander? granddad found out memorial day weekend the blue ridge mountains of west virginia. my daughter was on the board or of the national park trust took us to george washington national park. on the trip, the grandkids decided to scoop up little animals with their bare hands from the edge of the pond. so what i said, don't hurt the tadpoles, they screamed, pop those are salamanders, you idiot. here i am with eli at the edge of the pond, time to make a fire, morgan taking a lead on getting the fire going. here i am with my wife against the beautiful backdrop of what you remember, john denver famously described as almost

heaven west virginia. >> greg: you went to a george washington park? >> juan: what is wrong with that, greg? >> greg: we will talk about it later. >> jesse: i thought you guys were going to wear the same outfit. [overlapping talking] >> dana: kennedy bring us home. >> there are three things i love. the national anthem. vets and a harmonica. 96-year-old world war ii vet named harmonica pete. he serenaded the audience, the new jersey red bull stadium for the u.s. women's soccer game. it was a match between u.s. and mexico and here is harmonica pete. pete temporary, throwing down the national anthem on this instrument, let's listen. ♪ >> that man is a patriot, the

boys, the control with 114 units and in england during world war ii. >> greg: i like monica pete better than mayor pete. >> dana: he can play the harmonica too. never miss an episode of "the five." "the special report" is up next, bret. >> bret: this is a fox news alert, and i am bret baier. the center u.s. dealing with a major disaster after more storms and deadly tornadoes ripped through the area overnight. at one point leaving 5 million people in ohio without power. that is just ohio. 52 tornadoes believed to have hit a crossed eight states monday. the 11th straight day of tornadoes being reported somewhere in the u.s. it is not just the funnel clouds, but flooding. every single county and oklahoma is under a state of emergency tonight due to the weather. many of those people are not out of the woods yet. fox team coverage tonight here with michael tobin in ohio with