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>> in the buzz beater is robert mueller breaks his silence a media maelstrom over insistence he can't bring criminal charges against donald trump but was urging and impeachment inquiry. >> basically saying the president can't be indicted otherwise we would have indicted him, we cannot say he did not commit crimes because we believe he did. special counsel calling for congress to pick up where he left off. that process has a name. it begins with the letter i. impeachment. >> mueller comes along and is attempting to resuscitate the corpse that was his report.
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>> voters say -- he couldn't prove the president didn't commit a crime, a bizarre thing to say. the question is what to do with a clearly lawless president who has illustrated in the report obstruction of justice. mueller is cheering for the president's impeachment over phantom obstruction of justice with no intense, no underlying crime. >> many pundits analyzing the special counsel's careful words or whether or not to crusade for impeachment. alan dershowitz joins us live. the president taking flak in japan for invoking kim jong un and criticizing joe biden's intellect. >> choosing a dictator over the former vice president of the united states. >> he should do so as an american political opponent of joe biden, not by citing a foreign dictator. >> it amazes me how tender the
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media are. don't say that about joe biden, they call trump hitler. he says joe biden is low iq, he is low iq, it is not trump's fault. >> some commentators on the right as well as the left said trump went too far. do the math, more democratic candidates choking on the impeachment bandwagon but is the press unfairly painting this is a groundswell. this is media buzz. nothing about his russia investigation for two long years until the day he resigned. live on all the networks he tried to explain findings about donald trump -- >> if we had confidence the president clearly did not commit a crime we would have said something. charging the president with a crime was not an option we could
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consider. >> the president we did nothing changes, case closed. plenty of questions from reporters. >> there wasn't much change, no obstruction, no collusion, a witchhunt by the media. and and and richard fowler. a fox news contributor. did he say what he said before with a few edits? why does the media act like they have their hair on fire? a call for impeachment? >> there was a time when people would say the media behaved as the public relations arm of the
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democratic party and incidents like this show they moved from doing the democratic party's bidding to telling the democratic party what it needs to do. the media need impeachment to avoid accountability. perpetrator the russia collusion hoax they did daily citing bombshell reports happening all the time of russia collusion, mueller is reported did with no indictment of any americans for any collusion with russia and that makes the media look very bad. they hope they can move that and -- >> is this a case of seeing what they want to see. reading the tea leaves of mueller's words, he implied, he insinuated congress should take impeachment and some people saying he shouldn't have appeared before the cameras and all that. >> in defense of the media. i don't think the groundswell is coming from journalists.
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it is coming from the democratic caucus in the house. 20% of them are calling for impeachment proceedings to begin. just a few minutes ago on cnn, jim cliburn said he believes impeachment proceedings against the president have already begun. this is a new wave. i never heard any democrat save it to their mind impeachment is already begun. and -- >> >> let me play for you something rachel of msnbc could show, why
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it is important for mueller to say in front of the cameras what he said in this report. >> as a person who read the report i still find it helpful to have the dude that wrote it saying here is what it says. >> he said in the report this is not an exoneration of donald trump. >> because television needs visuals. after mother gave the speech, the search terms for mueller went through the roof on google and yahoo because americans were trying to ascertain robert mueller after two years, trusted prosecutor, what does this report say. what he says at the end is very telling. we thought he committed no crime, in the 448 pages, we thought the president committed no crime, the fact that he didn't say that, what are they going to do? >> all manner of television visuals, mueller is a dry guy, robert they niro -- if the press had known from the start that mueller had accepted the deal,
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and would that drama drama. >> the entire special counsel is questionable if he believed he could do no function in terms of indicting the president or coming to a decision whether he committed any crime. there would be less support for the special counsel. >> investigating russian interference and all that. >> he said he doesn't want to answer any questions about his special counsel probe. americans have every right to ask about the probe like why he only hired democrats to write the impeachment report. this question of whether he wrote the special counsel report which reads like an impeachment report. he didn't have total command of the facts, seems like he was being put out to do something, there is recognition a special counsel's office the report they intended to come out and lead different things and make it
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seem exciting came out as a dead when people realized -- what was interesting was william barr did his hour-long interview later in the week and reveal he asked the special counsel to give the whole report rejected so he could release it right away and they didn't do that. that showed political gamesmanship and we saw that in the press conference. >> the notion that mueller is quietly cheerleading for impeachment, a daylong televised spectacle on the hill in which he is the star witness. >> which would only be a rorschach test. democrats will see what they want to see, republicans will see what they want to see. i would like to see mueller testified that from his perspective it is like you can only pull so much blood from the stone.
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from his perspective i did this investigation the two years, i wrote it up for you and now i am speaking to you. how many ways you want me to tell you? >> mueller coming out, something he said about media coverage of the beginning of the press conference, talks about the importance of the russians engaging in our election and doing it again and the fact that that was met by deaf ears, by mitch mcconnell, they careless about this democracy than democrats do because we are concerned -- >> why questions need to be asked of mueller. he didn't look into the dossier which -- if your job is to investigate russian collusion and russian meddling in our election -- >> russia engages the election. >> such as -- >> an important factor is how they interfere in what was laid out in the report, how they interfered in social media and tried to sway american votes. i don't think any reasonable person could say making a patrol
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account on facebook had more impact than a fake dossier. >> it is problematic. >> back to media coverage. it was interesting everyone on cbs said mueller should have made the call which is why you have that. you said earlier the media needed impeachment, you see a real media drumbeat. trying to use the mueller comments as the turning point, people don't know what is in the report because they don't have time to read the report. >> you side in the clips in the beginning of the show. there is a desire for impeachment, many people in the media pushing forward and bringing it back to the bar interview where he took a lot of media criticism, looking at how this collusion conspiracy theory began and the media criticizing him instead of having concern about civil liberties and how people were spied on when they didn't commit any crime.
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all the things the media used to care about, they used to be defenders of our freedom and making sure we are not spied upon by the government, there's no interest in it, only interest in impeachment for lack of a crime which shows -- >> let's have a conversation about wrongdoing at the fbi. we can have hearings on this all we want but that does not take away the fact that in volume 2 of the mueller report he outlined 7 instances is president obstructed justice and republicans don't care or pay attention. >> all the media experts that if you look at this -- the special counsel, not exonerating, does not say -- >> he said in his press conference criminal justice system is not the place to get hammered out. needs it to the american public.
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the department of justice is the place to determine these things. he made a comment that seems weird to me. i couldn't clear him of wrongdoing, couldn't say he didn't commit a crime. that is not how crime works in this country. we don't everyone is guilty and have to prove innocence. he went out of his way to say the russians were innocent until proven guilty but the president was guilty until proven innocent. >> even when mueller said the constitution has a different process he was quoting a justice department memo but there is a theme in the press, trump counting on impeachment, donald trump is crying out for impeachment. got a different impression from the president. >> to me it is a dirty word, the word impeach, a dirty filthy disgusting word. nothing to do with me. >> sounds like he doesn't want to go down that road.
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>> i agree it is a dirty word. up until now it was associated with the nixon administration, a dark period in american politics, dark time for the american media. he would like to drop it like a hot potato but absent the ability to do that he started pointing out the obvious which is if nancy pelosi continues to go down that road it will probably backfire. >> usually are impeached for committing a crime. the idea would be impeached because you complained about an investigation we were falsely accused of treason will be a heavy lift for the american people. >> complaining about a crime and telling the white house counsel to fire the special counsel. what this president did was telling the media he was completely exonerated, no collusion, no structure when the report doesn't say that. that is what the press conference did was say the
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report doesn't say that. >> when we come back the president invokes kim jong un taking a whack at joe biden. alan dershowitz on whether the special counsel went too far. -we bought a house in a neighborhood with a lot of other young couples. then we noticed something...strange. oh, could you, uh, make me a burger? -poof -- you're a burger. [ laughter ] -everyone acts like their parents. -you have a tattoo. -yes. -fun. do you not work? -so, what kind of mower you got, seth? -i don't know. some kid comes over. we pay him to do it. -but it's not all bad. someone even showed us how we can save money by bundling home and auto with progressive. progressive can't protect you from becoming your parents. but we can protect your home and auto. progressive can't protect you from becoming your parents. it's not the highlight of fatherhood. but i'd rather be here with my little man than anywhere with migraine.
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to appear to side with a brutal dictator instead of a fellow american, the former vice president, joe biden? >> kim jong un made a statement that joe biden is a low iq individual. he probably is based on his record. i think i agree with him on that. >> biden called the remarks of any the unity of the office. and insider saying the problems trump criticizing biden, it was wrong to invoke a brutal dictator. >> there is a time and place to do such criticism. when you're overseas it is best not to get bogged down in domestic politics. one thing i would like to see is more consistency in the media on their enforcement of this rule. i was frustrated when president obama last election cycle went after ted cruz, jeb bush, ben
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carson, brutally went after them and went after donald trump later. in japan during the same election cycle. i didn't like it then, i don't like it now but i would like to see more consistency in the media when they enforce this very goodwill. >> kim jong un, accused in media reports of executing his negotiating team. someone who worked for the last two residents are the media on target saying this is donald trump shattering -- >> it is anything dignity of the office to quote kim jong un in the united states or foreign soil but in donald trump's defense i will say there is new ground rules as you just said. he has broken a lot of norms. is it surprising he said this? know. it fits perfectly with the trump doctrine which is not just america first but donald trump first. this is what he was doing on the world stage. he saw an opportunity to bring
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up politics in a way that hurt his political opponent and he took it. >> trump supporters on my twitter feed say biden is dumb but that is not the point. president on foreign soil, the idea that politics stops vanished decades ago but to to quote a tyrant is not hard to imagine an explosion on the right if barack obama had done such a thing. >> absolutely right and what makes it worse is the president of the united states propping up a brutal dictator over a former vice president of the united states and this is part of the trump doctrine but this trump doctrine reminds you of trump failures. he met twice with kim jong un in japan. there was a missile strike, he promised denuclearization. it is not happening in this speaks to that. >> he is trying.
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>> it is something about this coverage. that last summit you had the democratic party of the judiciary committee jerry never bring in michael cohen who pled guilty to lying to congress to embarrass the president in the midst of his nuclear summit talks and you didn't see the media criticizing it at all. if we take a brutal dictator seriously and cannot resolving the issue there has to be consistency in the media and even if there is an there needs to be more maturity by people in this country. >> donald trump gave credence to something kim jong un said and highlighted him as a credible voice. >> and did it on japanese soil. >> a not sorry tweet where he said by tweeting he is a low iq individual, or an idiot is kim said, good discussion, everyone.
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>> on in this in dc, donald trump invoking north korean dictator and denigrating joe biden's intelligence and lamenting the fact more republicans don't challenge the president. an obvious conception of how fox covers trump. >> i think if the president thought there was a penalty to pay from even his own favorite channel, perhaps he would have curtailed his behavior but they
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enable him, they celebrate him. >> in reality here's what a number of fox commentators, many of them conservative, had to say about trump's jeb that biden. >> you don't take your political opponents on foreign soil, you're supposed to be out there is america's chief diplomat and you don't cite the dictator of north korea as evidence why joe biden is a bad candidate. >> he should not be doing this in japan. it looks better and what purpose does it serve to have done this? >> this is the president taking a shot at biden while he is overseas on another mission entirely and siding with the dictator. >> this is obviously an error and he has been reproached by republicans and democrats, you don't criticize opponents by name overseas. >> and enabling what is being said on news shows here. there was a tidal wave of media outrage when water general
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disclosed white house emails and the military saying during the president's visit to japan the uss john mccain needs to be out of sight and the tarp was hung over the ship's name. trump said he knew nothing about this. called the effort well-meaning but repeated his criticism of the late senator. >> i don't know what happened. i wasn't involved. i would not have done that. i was angry with john mccain because he killed healthcare. i was not a fan of john mccain in any way, shape or form. >> mccain has been dead for 9 months. some white house official thought the side of the mccain battleship would upset the boss. this footnote, acting pentagon chief patrick shanahan told reporters the directive wasn't carried out but he called -- the defense department should not be politicized. trump versus obama.
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>> let's talk about bob mueller's appearance magellan dershowitz, the harvard law professor who wrote the mueller report, final report of the special counsel, that donald trump, russia, let me ask how the media have covered robert mueller especially in a televised appearance, as an upstanding figure trying to get to the truth? >> the media substitutes wishful thinking but careful analysis. if there had been a mueller report about hillary clinton or democrat and mueller had done the same thing he did here, if
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the information had proved he was totally innocent we would have said so, many in the media would have attacked that is beyond the scope of a prosecutor. the media does not pass the shoe on the other foot test. of the political parties were reversed the media would not be consistent. it would always accept its ideology overreporting and i think particularly pundits. the reason so many pundits have been wrong in predicting things in the reason i have been right in predicting almost everything is not that i'm any smarter but i don't substitute wishful thinking for careful legal analysis. >> you say until his televised appearance you were defending bob mueller as not being a partisan who favored one side over the other. did you get a lot of grief from your liberal friends? >> of course i did. on both sides. i get grief from both sides because i don't satisfy either side by my hopefully neutral
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analysis but i have never thought he was a partisan but when he made that statement he not only put his thumb, he put his elbow on the scale. it was clearly intended to encourage impeachment by the house. it is not the proper object of a special counsel to do the investigation for congress. that violates the separation of powers. it is congress that has to do its own investigation and has to take political responsibility for doing it. when they shut that off to special counsel, special counsel take the responsibility it destroys the system of checks and balances. >> if mueller was trying to encourage pro-impeachment democrats he wasn't exactly explicit about it when he voted the constitution and saying another remedy for this, the committal justice system, he was courting a doj memo about inciting a sitting president. what makes you so sure?
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he is urging congress to impeach. i didn't hear those words. >> you didn't hear those words but the music was quite clear. he learned nothing new during the report about the justice department or constitution was on day one he knew he could not indict a sitting president under justice department regulations and the question comes up why did we have a special counsel at all? why didn't we have a nonpartisan independent expert commission looking into russian experts -- efforts to influence the election which are continuing in the 2020 election? that would be the way to go in light of the fact that we now know the justice department and mueller concluded the result of the special counsel could not be the indictment of the president. >> part of the reason was a nonpartisan commission came and people like paul manafort and flynn. >> what benefit came from indicting the russians?
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the russians can't be charged. manafort was indicted for something unrelated as the judge said, the prosecutor wasn't interested, or were interested in squeezing him to make him sing, composed against donald trump. what was the purpose of that? i think it was a futile effort it would have been better to have nonpartisan investigation but take we had after 9/11. of the nonpartisan investigation had evidence of crimes that could be turned over to ordinary prosecutors. >> you say prosecutors are not supposed to trash people. you don't invite as jim comey said in a news conference, person did terrible things. mueller testified as an independent counsel, was supposed to write a report to the attorney general, as he lays out the facts of his job. >> his job was to file a report with the attorney general. nothing in the rules say negative and critical material
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that innocent people should be released to the public. i suspect we have seen the last special counsel. i think my hope congress will have hearings to try to determine whether the special counsel should be trashed the way the special prosecutor was. we have seen the deathknell of special prosecutors, special counsel and i hope the mueller report is the last special counsel report we have. it is inconsistent with the role of prosecutors, inconsistent with presumption of innocence and inconsistent with the constitutional system of separation of powers. >> it raises the question how it administration would investigate itself. shame on mueller for using his position of trust against former fbi director. would you said donald trump has gone too far in personal attacks on mueller, which hunted hoax and all that? >> when a person is the subject of an investigation he or she
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has the right to fight back. what i have chosen different words? of course. that is the president's style but there's an enormous difference between those conducting an investigation and those who are subject of the investigation. people choose, some choose to ignore. some choose to fight back. i didn't vote for donald trump but people who did understood they were getting a man who was always going to fight back and never going to sit back and say i accept this, let the process go forward. >> judge andrew napolitano takes a different view. we could not say he did not commit a crime. fill in the blank, because we believe he did. do you disagree with that analysis? >> i fundamentally disagree. i like a judge napolitano but i want to challenge him to a debate. i want fox to show both sides of the issue unlike the other media. please agree to deviate me on fox or anywhere else and let's have it out. that the american public decide
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who is correct, you or me. these are reasonable disagreements, and important ones. let's have a rational and civil debate. >> i will be happy to host that debate. good to see you. coming up, with more 2020 democrats embracing impeachment, it has tepid support in the house. the new york times says some msnbc and cnn shows are too opinionated. x, it's just a bug. that's not a bug, that's not a bug! (burke) hit and drone. seen it, covered it. at farmers, we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ but how do i know if i'm i'm getting a good deal? i tell truecar my zip and which car i want and truecar shows the range of prices people in my area actually paid for the same car so i know if i'm getting a great price. this is how car buying was always meant to be. this is truecar.
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>> many of the democrats 2020 candidates are telling reporters in the wake of bob mueller's televised appearance now they are jumping on the impeachment bandwagon. the national reporter for npr and fox news contributor, i have seen a constant airing of coats of elizabeth warren, cory booker, kamala harris calling for impeachment. they are running for president, candidates get a lot of attention but is this creating the impression that most democratic lawmakers are backing impeachment? >> it could and that would be wrong. the media has a responsibility, they love the split and the conflict. the media is not a monolithic thing but the reality is the only metric that matters is how many house democrats in swing
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districts are for impeachment. if there was a nominee or all but certain nominee saying we should impeachment that would matter but these are candidates who are struggling for oxygen or advantage and that is the context of their remarks. >> go to the numbers, 40 plus, maybe 50 house democrats. >> ali liberal district. >> 235 house democrats. elizabeth warren goes on the view and are other news shows not so subtly encouraging this? so many candidates you can book every day. >> i hope not and npr isn't doing that. >> you can't hate talking about the media on this show. joe biden and bernie sanders are among those who are not on the impeachment bandwagon but even biden saying -- >> biden has been echoing house leadership meeting it will be inevitable.
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>> beto o'rourke has artie apologized for saying i am born to be in it, trying to get back on tv and he is in a new hbo documentary about -- he gets an hbo documentary even though -- he apologized again. >> i love you guys more than you will ever know. i was a giant [bleep] sometimes. >> does that -- >> this goes up with his dental appointment and haircut. >> it seems he is on an endless apology tour. >> he is on camera endlessly and the thing that is interesting is donald trump has shown us there is no such thing as too much exposure. the more exposure the better no matter what kind it is but for
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beto it has backfired of it. vanity fair cover was a mistake in retrospect. too much about his image. i think there is such a thing as too much exposure. >> many in the media love -- ted cruz -- they have cooled on him. they like mayor pete better and all that. washington post has a piece, revolution has stalled. there are limits to left-wing appeal. couldn't some version of the same peace be written about every democratic candidate whose name is not joe biden? >> it might be written about joe biden because the history of democratic front-runners if they don't end up being the front runner but i do think bernie sanders is a puzzle to the media and the media is not a monolithic thing but bernie sanders wasn't treated as a true
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front-runner. journalist of ever know what to do about him because in 2016 it didn't seem he had a chance so he didn't get the same scrutiny as hillary and now he was the front runner until joe biden got in but he hasn't gotten the kind of intensive scrutiny a front runner would. now all of us of money at the end of the spectrum he's losing steam. one reason is the things he is for. you don't need a 76-year-old guy, you have other young candidates. >> thanks for coming in. after the break the challenge of covering the president, how trump gets more access than barack obama ever did. i have the power to lower my blood sugar and a1c. because i can still make my own insulin. and trulicity activates my body to release it
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>> donald trump has a different approach to the media than his predecessor, the chief white house correspondent for the new york times has an updated version of his book, obama, the call of history. and extra layer are on you when you write stories for a paper trump blesses the failing new york times? >> it is a love-hate relationship. >> he has been on interviews. >> he craves approval from the paper he read his entire life and his father read and gets mad when he doesn't get what he likes. that is natural but he is reading. >> barack obama authorized his aides to declare war on fox and
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dan pfeiffer later said this was a mistake of hubris. was the precursor? >> anna small scale. what trump is doing is deeper and more intense. what he did was something all the press objected to, singling out fox, we are not going to invite them and the network said no, we are not going to do it, great moment of solidarity, we don't believe you should pick and choose and that is a precursor for we are now. >> obama and trump, people think obama had a love press with his press corps but you say he made a crucial change that ended up limiting access. >> we overstate the idea that he was in this love affair, i didn't feel that. i got a lot of yelling phone calls from the obama white house and he killed the pool spread.
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when the president has a visitor we get to throw out questions about the news of the day. obama hated doing that. had a third as many of those as president bush. donald trump loves doing that. does it virtually every day. he talks more than president obama ever did. >> donald trump has abolished daily press briefings which is too bad. he talks to the press secretary and there is a trade-off. >> i would rather talk to the president in a press secretary but there's a difference in the briefing serves an important function because you can ask compound questions, put important things on the record, not shouting across the room with helicopter blades going. we've lost that, the white house, state department and pentagon, we've got a full year without a briefing by the pentagon. it is counterproductive because they can get their message out.
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>> if you got 8 seconds to get questions to the president and it is noisy you are saying you can't ask a 2-part question. >> a shout out -- >> easier for him to say that is fake news. >> what about megan markel, things like that. you can't say on the state you said this but understate your secretary of housing said that i'd on this date you -- you can't ask that kind of question in that environment. you can ask the press secretary on record on camera. >> when donald trump and his aides complain that the overwhelming number of stories in major media are negative, doesn't make them untrue. does he have a point? >> i have a hard time everyone stories positive or negative. if it is true it is true. that is what i am looking for. what they consider negative may be positive depending on -- i
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don't like the positive negative thing. is the coverage tough? of course. he's done a lot of things that are controversial. when you do things that are controversial -- >> we talk about this president if only because he is so controversial. >> we cover what it does, we covered on the merits. the president says something, i'm not going to talk about joe biden on foreign soil that will produce a story. he says i agree the lowest iq individual and kim jong un is right that is a story. that is responding to what is in front of us. >> thanks very much, good to see you. still to come, the new york times barring its report is rachel maddow and other cable shows and why it is tough to get on tv if you are not talking impeachment. than anywhere wit. "i am here."
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>> new york times urging reporters to avoid going on highly opinionated cable shows like rachel maddow and lawrence o'donnell and don lemon according to vanity fair. there are couple primetime talkshows on the list but many times contributor contact with the other news channels. told the daily beast opinion and news need to be separated. the most sharply opinionated shows, i am not sure which shows we will avoid. the line is increasingly blurred and sometimes washington post reporters privately told me they are for the most opinionated shows because they are surrounded by liberal anti-trump pundits or anti-trump headlines. the media can't stop covering the word which donald trump called a dirty filthy word. democratic congressman bed -- brad sherwood, after a squabble about how much he favors impeachment there was this moment of truth.
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>> you can use your time as i see fit. i present you coming on the show. you want to talk about the case you are making for impeachment? >> i have been trying to get on your show to talk about the saudi nuclear program. if it was my time we would be talking about drug prices. there is this image in the country the congress is focused only on impeachment. that is the living i can get on tv to talk about but it is not what i'm working on. >> you want to talk about what the anchors and producers care about, you get on. if you want to talk about another issue we are too full and you don't get on and that is how the agenda gets shaped. that is it for this edition of media buzz. check out my podcast, we rip on the day's hardest stories, you can subscribe that google play or fox news podcast.com. check out our facebook page where we post original videos. you want to continue the
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conversation on twitter, you will find me and we are back here sunday morning at 11:00 eastern. >> the trump administration doubling down on slapping new tariffs on mexico as trade negotiations mixing with efforts to reform our nation's immigration laws, trying to continuing to solve the crisis of the southern border, one of the top priorities of the white house. welcome to america's news headquarters. >> donald trump says the new tariffs will go into effect june 10th. of mexico does not do more to stem the flow of migrants to the southern border top house republican kevin mccarthy says the white house is demonstrating how crucial this issue is. >>
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