tonight, thank you for joining us. thank you to lisa, duffy and emily. learn more about us and next r rev, mark levine is up next. next week the next revolution will be televised. ♪. mark: hello, we are america. this is life liberty and the fed. i'm mark levin. rick barry, how are you circul circular. >> good. mark: basketball hall of fame, 87. twelve all-star teams. how many years did you play? >> sixty-five-80 but set out one year when i opened up the door before they changed the reserve clause and then went to the aba for four years and went back to

the nba. mark: most of your career was in the mba was with golden state. >> get, and boy are they going good right now. [laughter] mark: know that you do not have all those power players around you that they have now. >> no, a little different world happening today but i just joke and say they got three zeros on my contract when i played 12500 i was always the second player in the draft, no guaranteed contracts and is a unique situation to watch things evolve over the years but that can't happen. but when you the first grade upgrade tvs and prices were down and this was the reverse. prices were low in our prices have gone up b5 you are a tremendous best ballplayer. some people call you and office of juggernaut. in almost a no missed shooter from the foul line and a perfectionist in many ways. you expressed yourself in ways that people would get their attention and come still do.

let me ask you about sports today. guys are paid an enormous amount of money and you just missed it, i often wonder about great players today who just missed it, you and mike schmidt and willie mays and a generation back you might have been unaffordable. >> well, i think they could've gotten me from a lot less about the pain you guys are now. if i was 30 years old today and a five-year contract worth 200 plus million dollars which i can't even relate to that hey, things change. the money is there, television has changed averaging dramatically in all the marketing b&b day does so the money is there. i just think sometimes the players and owners get carried away by paying so much money for certain guys and some of the guys are shortchanged. lowest bigeye in the mba this year counting mba properties monies that they get will make two times as much as i made in the best year ever had. god bless him and hoping my youngest son was the fifth of my boys played professional bath wall and on it timberwolves in

our presenting the united states in the world to be just under three on three. hopefully, he'll get a chance to play there and what i did and being the pioneer in changing things and opening up the door for the big salaries that will be better benefit from a couple of the guys made a lot of money play baffle and it's been remarkable. that's what has been credible for me in my life and family. you have five boys get division i college scholarships and all play professional bath while the out on that are off the charts. mark: let me ask you this, i watched a lot of sports especially when i was in that small, baseball, football and i don't remember so much politics sports, mostly liberal politics and sports, and my rock? >> no, your credit. it did not even come up and i see her books over here and i have stories about the press and you're so right on about that but they used to come out with the guys and go have a beer with

them after a game. now they're looking for the sensational story looking for what happening in your life and outside of the game and they don't stick to the game. these boycotts we had for the old mix how unfair was that to these athletes who spent so much time dedicating themselves to their sport to qualify to play in the old mix and i know it would have meant a great deal for me. one missing element of my career as i do not make the only team in the 64 and did get were jersey one time in the usa fight against the soviet team and they came over for next mission game and i know how proud i felt but never felt the same way when i heard the national anthem as i did at the usa on my chest. so, it's changed and politics should stay out of sports. it really should stay totally completely out of sports. it should stay out of a lot of things even in personal relationships it should stay o out. mark: what about taking any of the football game? >> there's a time and place for nothing. if you want to have an opportunity to demonstrate about

something or to express your opinion about something the time not to do it is while you're being paid a your job. i do believe that. certainly they are entitled to do that but again, time and place for everything. mark: let me ask you this, you were an early term supporter. >> not so much a trump supported by the fact i have always felt and i've been through a lot of different presidents because getting up there in age but i always vote for the person who i think is going to do what's right for the people in the country, problem with the system in this country is if you are reasonably intelligent you can figure out that people do what's right for their party. more concerned about their party and the power the party has as opposed to what's right for the country and the people. if we just went on that basis alone is best for the country and the people we'd be better off if i voted for democrats and voted for republicans and i do lean conservative, the question, but it's to the point where it has an impact on hybrid i lost speaking engagement when i was

was to do because a writer asked me about this craziness with trump and the collusion and i'm coaching in the big three which is a lot of fun and i.c.e. cube that together and enjoying that but he's talking about trump and i said listen, let this rest. like beating a dead horse but why are you talking to me about this now. if it was going on here in the scrutiny of trump is going under should never happen to any presidents. he wrote the story came out as if i was a big jump supporter and i was supposed to go speak for this company in san francisco and i was in, turned out they were liberal and they canceled my appearance to talk to the people who i thought i had a good message for their employees but canceled because they said i was for a trump. it's so foolish. pilot things like that impact your whole life? mark: did you vote for him? spirit, i thought he did the best for the people and the country and he's trying to do that. mark: think he's doing a good job? >> so far, yeah, i love your honesty my wife says but put the filter on it.

donald has no filter. he just what does what he wants to say and i say you need to listen to what my wife told me some time but he is at least attempting to do what's right for the country. look at the results that are there that the press seems to which is basically the liberal side of things in the majority of it but they don't want to give credit where credit is due. it's unfortunate but the thing i like about him is that a lot of the republicans had certainly all the democrats don't like him because he's not a politician. he's disturbing the good old boy network. mark: one of the reasons why you like him. mark: you had dealings with the press what about the sports media, i will expert of the sports media but my take on it is that they're very liberal or more liberal than the regular media. >> i don't know that but another dallas because of the money they are making although a lot of us sportscasters are making considerable more than we did in the old days.

we used to go dinner if you been out looking for the big story. it happened to be college could happen with the press is the fake news the people here about now. i talk to a writer and asks me a question that is rick, do you hear the crowd yelling, i said yeah i hear them but my attitude is when i played i was attending to find a way to score. divided i do not have a teammate in a better position to get the ball to him and that's the way i was taught how to play the game. the guy writes the story and hear the crowd yelled shoot so i shoot. i told the writer said don't talk to me again. you only put part of what i said in there. you change the entire meaning of what i was trying to convey to you. that was disappointing to me and learned a valuable lesson. i had that happen in the pros in the same weight when a writer was unfair i said i'm not talking to you anymore. you're not giving a fair

education, not intimidation but a fair report as to what i was actually saying to you but you're putting your own spin on it. mark: i remember as a philadelphia watching the phillies and steve carlton was burned a few times and he just stopped talking to the press altogether. it did not hurt him in any way. one of the greatest pictures of all time. how about now? distant relationship with the media? >> yeah, the coming of the time because i'm a good interview. i know the game and can speak reasonably intelligently about it and express myself and so i do a lot of reading all the time. it works out well and i get to promote things so i use it and have learned how to use it and play a game. you have to learn the rules and how to play give it sometimes you get burned until you learn the rules that once you learn the rules you played within those confines and take advantage of it. mark: isn't the purpose of the press, whether sports or even more importantly future of the country, to provide the audience of fans the american people with

information so they met people can make decisions on their own? so politics, party politics is a fourth and isn't it the case that the media leans heavily democrat? you really have to be blind not to see it, right? >> i would think so. so many things that go on in our government today is an insult to my intelligence. how do you justify a country that so far in that to borrow more money and give it away? countries don't like you most of the money is going into the hands of the leaders and not getting to the people to help them out. then we spend billions of dollars of people who are not even supposed to be in this country and i know we were founded on immigrants but people came over here and did it the proper way and took pride in being a part of america. now we spend billions of dollars and i'm a big supporter of the military, live in colorado springs and have for 35 years but fort carson and good military friends in the way we treat our military and the people who have helped to make

this country what it is today is reprehensible. we have these guys living in the streets with happening at the va's widely take the money we borrowing were billions of it spent on immigrants and help our own people out first. mark: why aren't we? >> i don't know. that's part that bothers me. it does bother me that they can surround and supposedly be doing the job of presenting us but then vote on things in past things for their benefit and not go ahead and ask us is it okay if we do this? they do that on their own. they way with term limits. no term limits now. clear politics that is what has happened with used to be they came in, they serve, they were back to the job and now have career politicians. i just think there's something wrong with that system but it's put in place by the people for their without asking our permission but as was to be about what we, the people, want. they supposedly reps in a little ask. mark: immigration point without securing the border and building

a wall. >> what do -- do they think were stupid? look at all the videos of all these people are not going to start mentioning names because we know who are talking about who are all in support of the wall. all these people who are now against it why? because it was donald trump trying to get the wall built but when it was other people and other presidents trying to get the wall they were all for it. how conveniently they forgot the fact that they work for but now they are not for. what changed? what changed? where are the apologies and the people who were talking about the collusion that was there and impeach our president and get rid of him because they don't like him. did we get an apology from them when the report came out that there was no collusion? i've not heard what have you? >> i don't think we'll get one. when we come back i got more on politics and sports, should they

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mark: rick perry, five greatest basketball players ever other than yourself. >> people talk about that and i feel myself in there and pick the four -- i would pick before i want to play with but here's the thing. to me it's very difficult for me to think anyone could pick anyone other than quilt generally but he has the things they say records are made to be broken, forget it, 50 points a game for attire and bases of it how insane is that correct i am at 36, 37 and i got to get 13 more a game for 82 more games and i don't think so. that is rebounding totals and for his grade average 22.5 rebounds a game, phenomenal athlete and on top of that. mark: changed the sport. >> yeah, he was spectacular and a lot of other great centers who play the game, bill russell at the most impact on the team winning chevy chips with his defense but when i talk about the players and overall skills of both ends of the court at a level that most people can't

compass it has to be to me wilt at that position. if i was playing it take russell as my power forward and block the shots. the other guys i have -- it used to be terry west but now it's michael jordan obviously. three is a spot that would be interesting because people talk about bird what have you and where i played but certainly you got lebron james and kevin durant and kobe bryant and a lot of great players playing their you can have a real interesting debate about that is to who would be the person you pick there. point guard is probably one you could have a real discussion about go back to the old days of cousy and then you have magic johnson of the world in the john stockton and steve nash who was amazing and steph curry and what he's doing so many great players

but start to go with the 6'8 6'8" and magic johnson and the things he did. that would be the choice i have to pick for that. the four is another one. you go with somebody like the old days would be father pettit and then you have a karl malone but then you have a tim duncan and then you have number of other players playing today who could conceivably be put into that category but not an easy thing to do any good conversation to have. to me it's about the overall skills. you can't have a glaring weakness if you're a great player and should not have a glaring weakness but should be good at certain things and grated others. mark: let me ask you, the big man today i mean x8, 6'9", are they better today than they we

were? >> the seven letters all want to shoot these. if dirk nervously came over and started doing it and kevin durant is 7 feet tall, he doors me. unbelievable player but plays like a guard. he should choose the three it goes to that has a midrange shot and then becomes a better facilitator. mark: how do you stop him? >> he's indefensible. that's why they're so good. if the players you can't truly garbage they drive, shoot and shoot from midrange great free-throw shooters. that's clay, stefan [inaudible]. then they have you throw into the mix dream and green who does does things the players have never done. it's amazing what happened with the game and the physicians taking. it got to the point where it may be overdone and too much of the three spent a lot of teams lost the damage up to cleveland game seven because it was all three-point shooting the last four minutes and 2040 seconds of game that did nothing but freeze. it cost him a chance to win the damage it in that year.

like anything in life you can't overdo it. too much of anything is not good. mark: who's the greatest player right now? >> there is a bit a lot of people come up and talk about lebron or kevin but in a team sport there no such thing as a greatest player. there's the greatest player at his position because the skills required to play each position are different even though it's getting to the point where the one, two and three's similar type things but it's still different and still certain skills you have to have to play those positions. it be ludicrous to compare magic johnson to wilt chamberlain, you can't do that. pick the best players at the position, theme and base of we picked sandy kovacs over willie mays? going back where we watch those guys play, no, you can't do that. it's about position. mark: you keep in touch with these rascal players, not just the ones on the team but in your league at the same time? >> the nice thing about coaching in the league is to get to see a lot of these guys and george irving who i love it we do fishing together with my new passion.

it's such a thrill to get that strike and set that hook. it's a skill. flyfishing is an art form. i do that and you get to see these guys but it's not other than my teammates i don't keep in touch with a lot of them. i got to know jerry west quite well but it's not like i see them on regular basis and have a super close friend from another team but the close friends i have other guys like starting center honor to be shipped to you like a brother to me. i see him all the time this together and spend time together and it's great. that's the beauty of the team. in golf, tennis who do you share your success with? your coach, family but they weren't doing it with you. or they? investable we were a family. we were together good point because you also said in politics forget about parties but do what you need to do for the people but invest while you say team.

team first. crucial. forget about the fans don't blow them off but it's not what the fans want but what the team wants. totally different. >> for sure. it's a situation where you -- i to tell people when you're playing you old people the best effort. you owe it to yourself first and foremost so you can happy with yourself for the person knowing you gave your best effort and never be afraid to fail that the quiz way to learn how to do something great. then you owe it to the owner because he's paying you. someone is paying you any of them your best ever. then to the fans who are supporting you and to your teammates. you owe it to those people first and foremost it should be yourself and then you have to feel good but want to talk to you that's a message i give them is that you want to put your head on the pillow at night and

sleep complete knowing you gave your best ever the day even if it did not work or if you feel that what you are doing because that helps make you a better person and then along with that find something you have a passion in life or. then you don't work for a living. you consider we are doing work? i played as well. i played the sport i loved and still love to the state in which i could still be playing it and someone paid me. i got paid to do what i love to do but that's not a job. mark: we'll be right back. just listen. (vo) there's so much we want to show her. we needed a car that would last long enough to see it all. (avo) subaru outback. ninety eight percent are still on the road after 10 years. come on mom, let's go! still nervous about buying uh-oh, la new house.meone's is it that obvious? yes it is. you know, maybe you'd worry less if you got geico to help with

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headquarters. the pentagon is asking the white house to stop the military and the request comes after the jump ministration ordered that the navy ship honoring the late senator john mccain be hidden from mr. trump's view during his visit to japan last week. a defense official says acting defense secretary patrick shanahan is now considering sending out more guidance to military units in order to avoid similar incidences in the future. still no clear motive between parties mass shooting at a municipal building in virginia beach. today please confirming the gunmen who worked for the city had not been fired from his job and his employer was not in the process of firing him. twelve people died, for injured and the gunman was killed in a shootout with police. i'm aisha and now back to "life, liberty and levin". mark: rick barry, let's circle back to politics.

>> my favorite subject left back. mark: he sailing conservative and not trying to put you on the spot. >> i have the filter on. mark: your wife will be pleased. do you think trump is doing a good job? >> anybody they can say he has not done a decent job is lying. mark: what do you think about the democrats lining up running for president in their views about the green new deal which is sort of an evisceration of capitalism or arguing let's get rid of i.c.e. or medicare for all and they are pretty radical, or they? >> they are even to the point of absurdity. i'm not going to get to hawaii. mark: swim. >> i'm not that good but it's silly. think about it. some people there are like the

spokesperson and yet they have no background and no credibility whatsoever. it's like when i listened to the talking heads on tv and i did radio sports talk as well and they said to not bring up and you did not play the sport on me and i said of course of play that card. i don't care how much you follow the sport or how much you've been involved in the sport if you did not play the sport at the highest level your credibility is not what it should be. there people out there talking about things that they think should happen to look at their credentials. they have done. zero. will give you an example of how crazy would turn me off to politics. when i'm playing with the warriors i was playing successfully and had it good fortune at a party and i got to meet ronald reagan as governor of governor and was a thrill and honor. great guy. i met him and still have a handwritten nice note from it.

i'm at a party and the speaker of the house at the time comes up to me and says rick, you want to run for politics and office. i said what are you talking about. i'm playing bass properties in okemos your sleep with your popularity you could get elected just, i played basketball. he said no, don't worry. i said i have to be the game we said no, it's okay if you don't when you don't have to be there. i said what? can you imagine this. get elected but you don't have to be there. wow. please. that turned me off so much to politics right then and from that point on i said i got to watch out for what's going on here. mark: all these people running and they are not there. >> they had no credentials credibility. why would any vote for most of them? why? pgh. >> a lot might. mark: they think there's a problem in the country. >> serious problem but the

people don't understand and don't take the time but is happy to live their lives and don't take the time to read about what's going on and understand with having the government to understand the waste we have and how we squander money with the immigration and money we spend billions of dollars there but it's so foolish and i don't know how you can change it. i really don't. it's very sad and then there bombarded on tv all the time with the opinions of people talking about what you think is right and wrong and they know in their mind is everything but writing for the party so the state what they have to say and then as i said before you get nobodies from the proof what they said was erroneous and it's insulting to me but it really truly is insulting with i'm an intelligent man and what happens there insulting to the point i don't like to get involved. when i meet someone into it i tried to say where do you lean and i say okay, it will be friends we can talk politics.

because you get into so many things and it's not worth it. a friendship and relationship could be great and politics should have no effect. unfortunate, it does. we're talking about how it has impact on sports. that's not the place for it. let sports be sports but let everyday life the every day life and let politics be politics. i tell you to subject with me. truly is. mark: you say you're fairly conservative where does that come from? >> my father, probably. mark: why? pgh. >> my father was just a person who just believed what you do -- it's about nowadays it's entitlement. the thing i was brought up with was on, the only thing you're entitled to in life is what you earn. put the work effort in. do what you have to do to be successful. to me that's conservative. i'm not looking for a handout or looking for something that i get what i deserve by putting the

time and effort into it. i think that being a conservative person. liberal person once you give things away, do this, do that so many of them are talking about doing it in the walls let's look at houses and people and some of them live in walled fences and walls on the property but we should have the wall. let's let these people, flowing in. those types of things do bother me a great deal. i don't want it to index of it i don't want to not go talk to employees because of the fact eileen conservative that i should not be able to talk to them about what's in the left that may help them be successful what they're doing in the careers and have the opportunity to wait for me because of the fact eileen conservative. it's foolish. why do that? yet, people do it. >> we'll be right back. ♪ and here comes the wacky new maid ♪ -maid? uh, i'm not the... -♪ is she an alien, is she a spy? ♪ ♪ she's always here, someone tell us why ♪

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of the more memorable guests you had. >> oh my god, the sports world unbelievable. my favorite was willie mays. i grew up and learned -- i learned the basket catch and he was my hero. i went to san francisco and became a friend of mine invited me to speak at his 70th birthday celebration which was unbelievable. i cut school to see him play and shook his hand and was in parochial school and jumped the fence and ran up in centerville to go to the clubhouse and shook his hand to go home to my brother says how is the game i said i was in school you know, you are the game and he says no, you are i saw you on tv. i said what i saw you but the camera got this kid jumping over the fence running up to shake willie mays hand and i said oh my god, don't tell mom or dad because they were working in and from there i get to have my boyhood idol, i got to meet him to become his friend but what a great country. it's amazing.

then i had barry bonds come on in to the show ended the entire show for me. three hours. after he set the record and when he revealed on the show he had a death threat during the course of that season when he set the home run record. another one they hardly ever hear on the radio and got to meet you guys sandy kovacs came on michelle. i said cindy, come on, please do it for a favor. he came on my show and spent quite a bit of time. to have those types of -. mark: let me stop you. what was he like? >> he was great. i still have the dates of all these people. mark: one of the greatest pictures ever spent probably, yet, without question one of the greatest lefties ever, if not the greatest. he was amazing player. i love greatness but i don't care what it is but i love people who excel in what they do and have great admiration and

respect for them regardless of what their field of endeavor although i do think about politics. someone who does apologetic and job the way i have the problem. i really like reagan -- i did not get to meet john f. kennedy but got to be around and i was almost on the trip supposed to go on the trip when robert got assassinated. mark: in la yeah, it turned on the trip because they asked me and i would've been there with rosie and his people and that would've been horrific. again, i respect people who do a difference in life and at very high level. it's a great respect in anythi anything. mark: you have five sons all of who are in the mba. >> all division i college scholarships and play professional asphalt.

>> to do this on their own or did you push it? >> as a parent, i say exposure get as many different sports as possible and let them choose the one they decide they want to play and great to not just focus and i think it get for now. some people to live the life like [inaudible] they want to get away from it. expose them to it and that's what i did with my voice but i brought them to make them and i laid the foundation my father play for me. and anything of life i tell them you can't build a skyscraper on a small foundation. mark: father was a coat. >> my father was a coach but also a semi pro player but the bigger the foundation, the taller the building. if you teach fundamental physical concepts of whatever it may be, not just in sports but music or whatever learn that as much as you can and get that foundation and if you're blessed with god-given talents and abilities will maximize those. lotta guys made it to the mba who never will be as good as

they should have become because they weren't taught properly and don't have that great position and will only go so high. cannot -. mark: is and that in all walks of life? >> this is my championship ring from 1935 and i have a ring from the top 50, ring from the hall of fame and they all are meaningful to me but the only ring everywhere is this on because pascual is a team sport, not about individual others. if i want an award or one is still title or free-throw titles for being on the first team, all-pro, all-star games those are the take, you can have decorations followers injuries and these great things that take them all and put them on a plate and grab the cake. does not look so good. whole bunch of stuff than you. you have to have the cake. i was fortunate enough to get the cake and now have the adornments with it and that's

the way i equate it. that's what is the most important thing to me. lot of one of things happen to me in my life but nothing formidable than being a part of that championship team with all my teammates who helped it happen because you don't do it by yourself. mark: i don't mean to upset you but 1967. mark: >> yeah, to pick and roll place. mark: you are up against the 70 sixers, chamberlain and so forth, took it to six games. >> yeah, and i said to pick and roll place, nate thurman, hall of fame to meet him at god rest his soul, manny pick and role-play against wilt chamberlain and i remember the first one in philadelphia and i hit nate on the way to the basket and wilt came over his back and i would have been a rumor this like it was yesterday. the ball came off and all -- we all stopped. we knew it was powell. the ball came and bounced out but we realize the whistle did not blow. turns out the official was on the basket had lived in the philadelphia area and i found

out later that it had an effect but if we had won the game that changes the whole dimension. now we have the home-court and we have the advantage. then were back in game six and ran a pick and roll right hand side with nate and came off and i went up and was going to pass it to meet on the role and wilt chamberlain took a large step i've ever seen a human being in my life and i could not -- [inaudible] i don't remember any of that stuff. [laughter] mark: was he the strong as man connects yes, made me start. no people have any of some ridiculous number of pounds out in front of him and one time i remember a player drove in and he got hit and was going to fall to the ground and wilt reached over and grabbed him and put him down like it was nothing. mark: i remember as a kid thinking he was the nicest guy ever met. >> he was, i got to go up to his crazy house in la later on in every door was 9 feet tall or

something in the amazing but he was a great guy. interesting guy. loved fast cars and custom-made cars and had a fast car to pull up to the ferraris and out lamborghinis and blow their doors often had the seat removed to put all the way back. very interesting diapered people always ask 20000 women and i've been around wilt and no way. he came awfully close. [laughter] mark: ladies and gentlemen, don't forget most beneath you can watch me on living tv, go to blaze tv .com -- mark and don't forget the number one book in the country thanks to you, get your copy right away. we'll be right back. i can't tell you who i am or what i witnessed, but i can tell you liberty mutual customized my car insurance so i only pay for what i need.

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mark: rick barry do you think beth weil is different than most other team sports? are busy, the dinner benefits are. >> it's not as instigated as the ball because you have more players on the field. it's in a confined area but it's a pretty simple game if you understand how to play it properly. that's why i love watching my

team play. i'm speaking of the warriors and i love watching them, pass, cut, move. my father said the more decisions you forced the defense to make the more the likelihood that sometime they will make a mistake and if you understand the game capitalize take advantage of those mistakes but that fight the warriors win a lot because the teams the game has gone to so much of the one-on-one stuff. mark, go score. as opposed to move, cut, pass. mark: isn't that a life lesson? figure out the best aspects of what you do in the worst aspects of what the other guy can do rather than one on one is a team sport. >> yet, when you talk to businesses it's up to the coaches as the guy running the office. office manager or who owns the company. it's your responsibility to analyze the talent of your personal and utilize the best way possible. you don't take someone in business who's good at sales and put them in the research

department. this is what happened in sports with some coaches have players and make them play the way they want to play rather than putting in an offense that utilizes his talents and one of the examples i give as the years have gone to people by not remember but a guy named dale ellis who played with the mavericks and his style of play -- he traded him because he did not thank you do think because he never utilized deals with skill. he goes to seattle and becomes an all-star player but as a perfect example of not utilizing your personal properly. to that in life as well. i want to say one thing, congratulations on your book but the problem with the press is they have so much power. no recourse. if they write something about you and it's wrong and terrible even if they did a retraction which most will never do the

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mark: rick barry, i'll ask a question i have most of my guess but how do you see the future of the country? >> gary situations that exist today. i feel concerned about my grandkids especially and what will happen with them and their families the way things are going now and the values this country was formed on are disappearing and not all of them

but we need people to come and who will stick by what the constitution was and keep the values that our founding fathers have so the country can possibly give back to country will be great get because our country has faltered. we lost a lot of respect from the world and we were the greatest country in the world and still are but not like we used to be. it's disturbing to me. mark: why is that? >> because of the leadership we have had in the way these people are pretty things. i don't know where they got these things into their head to try to change what is worth for so many centuries. why do you want to change what's working. i'm happy with what i'm seeing right now and hopefully this will continue that will grow and get a job and do the things with black on the planet, minority and women, youth implement is down but we need to get back to the values of what we had in the

past and if we do that will be fine. mark: been a pleasure. >> my pleasure. mark: see you next time on "life, liberty and levin". ♪ thank you. >> right there around d-day. >> whole ship with 31 men just lost. >> we were kidding fighting the germans. >> a bad day all around. >> it was a blood bath. >> hitler has reconstructed germany for a war. >> is about brilliance. >> it was planned in an elaborate detail. >> there were germans tries to kill me, we were trying to kill them, simple as that. >> beaches of normandy co were consecrated by the