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every day! [laughs] >> bill: mine was for senator kennedy. when he said "wicked crazy, born tired, raised lazy." he think he stayed up all night thinking about that? [laughs] >> sandra: wonderful hearing from the queen. the president's trip continues. we will have more tomorrow morning. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> melissa: fox news alert for you now, president trump and the first lady arriving in ireland just moments ago. there you can see them. another fabulous outfit, if i do say so myself. >> harris: [laughs] >> melissa: we are awaiting the president's meeting with irish pie minister. this is the life picture. that's why you're seeing a little break up there. we are trying to bring it to live. it's happening. there it is. all right, we love it. that's how you know it's life. there are little problems. tomorrow, the president is going to head to normandy france as he continues his trip to europe marking 75 years since the d-day invasion. they're talking about trade their elements.
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that's a hot topic. were you going to jump in? >> harris: i was going to say, the president has such an affinity for this part of the world. in county clare he's got his big golf course and resort. doonbeg is beautiful, by the way. he's got a lot of connection points. but they will talk trade, and probably some golf. >> melissa: we are back to the picture. we love it. no doubt he will mention at some point how he called brexit. he was there the day of the vote. i think we can hear it. let's listen in a little bit. >> president trump: i appreciated the prime minister, he did a fantastic job. we've become friends over the last very short period of time. a great relationship with ireland. it's as good as it ever has been, may be better. your ministry, we do a lot of business together. a lot of trade business, a lot of tourism. maybe most importantly, you are certainly one of the leading countries in terms of people in
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the united states. we have millions of irish. i think i know most of them because they are my friends. we love the irish. it's an honor to be here. we will be discussing various things, probably about brexit. there are very good people involved with brexit, as you know. it will all work out very well. also for you, your wall, your border. we have a border situation in the united states, and you have one here. but i hear it's going to work out. it's supposed to work out well, it's going to work out very well here. again, both the military and the trade, such a big factor. we will be discussing that very much. it's an honor to be in ireland with my friend, and he's doing a great job as your prime ministe prime minister. the way it works now is good. you want to try and keep it that
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way. i know a big part of the contention with respect to brexit is your border. i'm sure it's going to work out well. i know you are focused are heavily on. >> reporter: [indistinct] >> president trump: hopefully that's going to work out. i think it will work out. a lot of good mines are thinking about how to do it, and it's going to be just fine. it could even be very, very good for ireland. the border will work out. >> reporter: mr. president, what you think of our president's comments? >> president trump: i haven't heard those comments. we have the cleanest air in the world in the united states and it's gotten better since i've been president. we have the cleanest water, it's crystal clean. i always say i want crystal clean water. we are setting records environmentally. >> reporter: are you concerned
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ireland is not -- some people worry about it, as well. >> president trump: i know that, and we deal very closely as you know with your intelligence and security, we are working on that together. i know you are concerned. we are concerned. we are all concerned. >> it's something the irish government is concerned about, as well. further briefings and information from the u.s., just to give us a security briefing on that. it is something that we are all very concerned about. >> president trump: we are working on it together. not only with europe, but with ireland. >> reporter: mr. president, what's your plan in doonbeg customer >> president trump: as you know we will be making a trip tomorrow to normandy. we had an incredible time today. this is something that the likes of which you people have seen anything like it. we were with the queen of the
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royal family, with prime minister, it was something very special. many of you were there. i think almost all of you were there. it's been very well-covered and it was truly beautiful. tomorrow we go to normandy, and i will be leaving from doonbeg. i'm sitting here overnight, and i thought this would be the best place. i love to come to ireland and stay at doonbeg, and tomorrow we will be leaving and going to germany. >> reporter: is the strip promoting or golf club? >> president trump: this trip is really about a great relationship we have with the u.k., and i really wanted to do this stop in ireland. it was very important to me because of the relationship i have with the people in your prime minister. >> reporter: [in the states] >> president trump: where are looking at that. i'm sure that something we are going to discuss.
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i spoke to one who is a great senator, by the way. he really is, a great senator. we think we are going to be successful. he's a terrific president. that, i can tell you. he tells me he loves ireland, actually. we we had just about unanimous vote. if we get a unanimous vote, we do something that they've been trying to do for a long time. so i want to do it for the people of ireland, but i want to do it for the people in the united states that want this boat to happen, that happened to be of irish descent. >> reporter: [indistinct] >> president trump: i think what's going to happen is over the next period of time -- first, we will have to see who is penn minister. i think it's an important decision. we will see what happens over in the u.k. because that's decision number one. who is going to be
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prime minister? and once that happens, that person will get in and try and make a deal, and maybe if they don't make a deal they do it a different way. i know one thing, ireland is going to be in good shape. ireland is a special place. it's going to be in really good shape. i don't think the border is going to be a problem at all. >> reporter: sir, did you see the reports of executions in north korea, those who were involved in your summit? does that worry you at all that kim would execute these people? >> president trump: one of the gentleman who we deal with, this is north korea they are talking about, is somebody that we know well. he's a strong man, strong perso person. they like to blame kim jong un immediately, but they said he was killed, and he wasn't. he was at the theater the other night. so he wasn't killed. the other four people i know nothing about. is an interesting situation. i think they would like to make a deal, and we would like to
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make a deal with them. we will see what goes. it's been going pretty well. there hasn't been testing of anything major, and frankly, there's been no nuclear testing for a long period of time. when i became president and before that, as you know, it was all the time, nuclear testing, ballistic missile testing, and no there's nothing. i think chairman kim would like to make a deal and i would like to make a deal with him. i look forward to seeing him at the appropriate time. again, one of the people they were talking about that was supposedly executed wasn't executed at all. >> reporter: [indistinct] >> president trump: the corporations act, you mean the fact that it's so low? it's a very low tax, i agree. we have our tax very, very low. but they've done a good job. your prime minister has kept there. there are a lot of good companies here.
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thank you very much, everybody. >> melissa: b just want to make sure it's really over. you know once the president gets going answering questions you never know when he's really going to stop. touching on the number of key topics, as he sat there with the irish prime minister. let me hit on just a few. that last frenzy where there, he was talking about north korea and about chairman kim. he said the north koreans really want to make a deal. kim wants to make a deal, "and i want to make a deal with him." let's listen in. >> president trump: china wants to make a deal. i have no doubt about it. at the right time, probably that will happen. but right now they are paying many billions of dollars to the united states. we never got that before from china. we haven't even started. it's peanuts compared to the numbers that we are talking about.
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but i think china wants to make a deal, and mexico you know wants to make a deal. they have a delegation right now going over to probably the white house location, to negotiate with our people. mike pompeo, bob lighthizer, mike pence is involved. we have a great crew. but mexico, the drugs that are coming in, the people coming in unchecked, they are coming up by the millions. mexico could stop it. they have to stop it. otherwise we just will be able to do business. it's a very simple thing. i think they will stop it. i think they want to do something. i think they want to make a deal, and they sent their top people. we will see what happens today. we should know something. thank you very much. >> melissa: okay. like i said before, we don't know if he's really done preliminary liu and on a couple things and we will see marie are here. he was just talking about the
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various terrorist fights going on. talking about mexico and saying they could do a lot more, that he could put the carrots in place for that's important. i'm sorry, vice president pence. and pompeo, they are together talking with the foreign minister, about the plans in mexico unless they take action on the migrants on the south border. he was talking about trade with ireland as well, and how he likes to have ireland as a trading partner, that their taxes are so much lower, it's a great model to follow. he was talking trade, as well, with the u.k. yesterday and saying when they go through brexit that we will be happy to be the trading partner. he was talking about the good trading partners and the partners who are having challenges right now. as the talks are going on in washington, and he is over in
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the u.k., with trading partners he feels he's in better footing with. trying to make that contract out there. if you want to hit it a couple more points, there was a lot of that press conference. >> harris: just kind of as background with the president was talking about with trade, the united states accounts for nearly three quarters of the foreign investment into ireland. he called the prime minister varadkar a friend. he also considers that country, as you were mentioning, somewhat of a template for doing business with corporations. the u.s. is the single largest source of foreign direct investment in ireland with more than 700 american companies employing an estimated 160,000 people. so that is the backdrop to whatever friendship between the countries might exist, and potential for trade. i want to know your thoughts, though, and where we are with the conversation about trade. two countries we've already hit on this trip. >> josh: trade is obviously domineering topic. not just because of all of the unresolved situation with the
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china talks, with the e.u., and now with mexico. but because of what it means for the greater economy. i think the biggest ease in this president's hand has been the strength of the economy. there are a lot of economic indicators that would suggest if you get into these trade wars, if you get into tariff discussions, you could have a pretty significant economic impact when it matters most. i think most republicans are pretty eager to get to the backside of this discussion and hopefully we can resolve it sometime soon. >> melissa: in the comments coming from the mexican foreign minister yesterday as he was doing the press conference, he feels like we are going to get there. we notice the president didn't set specific parameters of what the mexican government needs to do in order for this not to happen. getting criticized for that, but i think that's intentional in order to give him room to go back. republican senators -- i want to play this sound for you -- they are very much up in arms over this conflict with mexico over terrace. let's listen to that. >> we are very concerned about the additional tariffs that have
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been proposed. >> there's not much support for tariffs, that's for sure. we are still hoping this can be avoided. at the same time, it's way past time the president requests assistance. >> i think the tariffs are unnecessary if we can get the congressional democrats do their job. to support bipartisan legislation, to fix the holes in the wall being exploited by the cartels. >> melissa: emily, my lord, i think he got it! we don't need these tariffs if we can sit down and do this work. then the president will have to slap those tariffs on. duh! why do you think is doing it customer to get you off your backsides to get something done. it's the only weapon at his disposal so he's using it like
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mad. what do you think? >> emily: didn't we elect them to go to hell to enact legislation to resolve problems, or issues that we see our this of importance. the legality about how the president of mexico presented this. he -- that triggers this ieepa, under which he has a lot of authority to make determinations about economics. if the sources coming outside our borders imposing effort. it's been used multiple times in the past for sanctions, regulations of imports. now he's using it for tariffs in the first time. >> melissa: hang on, i've got a few. this is special for you because you are my finance person. [laughter] i know you are tariff-based! this is more method to the madness. what propped up the markets, it was the mexico talks but a lot
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from powell saying that may be fed -- the economy goes down. we will lower rates again. there's a new theory out there that a lot of the tariff talk is a way to get powell to lower the fed, to lower rates, or at least hold them said you back off on interest rates policy. rather than saying -- rather than browbeating him directly in tweets, which nobody loves. this is another way, using the tariff power to do something else he wants to do. what do you think of that? >> dagen: i think it's totally insane would want to drive the economy down and slow it down just to get the federal reserve to cut interest rates. >> melissa: he's not doing it necessarily. >> dagen: president trump is a real estate you already have fixed-rate mortgages below 4%, long-term interest rates have fallen because there were concerns about the economy. 3.6% on the limit, the federal reserve is not going to plow the magic pixie dust again with an
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employment rates. in spring go in over the economy. >> melissa: but what about what powell said yesterday? >> dagen: i think they're watching us going on. but tariffs are so all our inflationary companies that make things here like to raise their cost as well, even though they are not directly hit. that's the danger, that the inflation. >> harris: that's what i understood to be the skin in the game. and what gives the president's argument for this more meat. this to say that, "look, we are all going to feel this at the same time. i'm putting skin in the game and hurting my own situation. automobiles, 5 to 25% tariffs over the next few weeks if mexico doesn't step up." and then they start to step up. i talked to the acting director of ice yesterday. if things start to change. i said, "what really did?" and he said, "i'm not an economist but i can do basic math." >> dagen: i think it won't take their publications to like the
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republicans to push back. i caution the president nevertheless, in the white house, about listening to the democrats who warned about the economic impact of this. the democrats want this country to go into a recession, quite frankly. it's the only way they will win next year. >> harris: how can they have an economic message? >> dagen: bingo. >> melissa: very smart. democrats preparing for the first round of the 2020 debates with 21 candidates already qualifying to participate. the democratic national committee says only 20 will step on the stage. so is the dnc putting his thumb on the scale? plus, former vice president joe biden releasing his 2020 climate change proposal, but can he win over the progressives who are already criticizing the plan? this as president trump weighs in on the controversy from overseas. we will debate all the snacks. ♪ i believe there's a change in weather. i think it changes both ways. ok everyone!
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candidate jay inslee says, "i have two expresses the moment that it lacks teeth and ambition paid that's necessary to defeat climate crisis." freshman congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez also appeared to throw cold water on biden's plan, calling it "a start." meanwhile, during his overseas trip, president trump revealed that he has discussed these issues with prince charles. watch. >> i think i had a great conversation. it wasn't about, as he would call it, climate change. i think we had -- i tell you what moved me, is his passion for future generations. he's really not doing this for him. he's doing this for future generations. this is real. he believes that. >> harris: so you are seeing more and more people on the right, republicans, saying we've got have some sort of a plan. you see that the president is
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discussing climate change across the pond. [laughs] >> josh: yeah. it was also revealed yesterday that joe biden plagiarized. >> harris: he had a staff writer. >> josh: he took pieces of plans from special interest groups, the later version of a green new deal. it's revealing other than that he's a serial plagiarist. it also reveals that he's not running on the issues. he is putting out a climate plan because a week ago i got his toes stuck in the door by suggesting there should be middle ground on the issues. so all the aocs of the world, the jay inslees, jim ties throat. "you know what? this guy shouldn't be a candidate, he doesn't take this seriously." >> harris: iv right? >> josh: for democrats, i think they are absolutely right. there's a huge component of the electorate where this is the single issue they care about the most. it is a huge barrier. if you are a democrat and you
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are interested in issues, ultimately he is not your guy here. he has had years to navigate this one is. what he has is that he is a "electable" democrat. i'm not sure the climate is right for that. >> harris: we will stay with biden. i bring up the g.o.p. because if they are not careful they will have to go up against several plans that might actually be in the middle ground, and it will be theirs. emily, when you look at joe biden, not really at the sweet pot of some of the stuff going on in the candidate's race right now. didn't go to the california democratic convention. he had another event in ohio, but something that was missed on the calendar. we haven't seen as much of him as we see of some of the other candidates yet. it keeps him, i would imagine, from making mistakes. or gaffes, as they know. but it keeps in the lane outside the boundaries of talking issues. the >> emily: i think it also
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illustrates the long-term strategy. it not for the primaries, but the general election. i think the fact that his climate proposal, albeit plagiarized -- >> harris: he didn't even know what to call it! [laughs] >> emily: it reflected and mirrored that paris climate accord. because that is the moderate, that is the left of center democrats, the position that they want. so he is holding it come on jay inslee, capitulating to the far left. he will drop like flies. as i have biden or potentially in bernie's mind him to persuade them that they can win the general. but to me it's illustrative that biden has his eye set on the long-term goals. >> josh: you got to take the first race first, though. that's all i will say. [laughs] >> melissa: let's look at some of the details of his plan. having read through it. >> harris: it's about 50 pages. >> melissa: you cut-and-paste or whatever, it comes down to a money grab. it's so insincere. i feel like when democrats use the sanctimonious, saying you
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want a cleaner planet -- which is a laudable goal -- but we look at the details of how they're going to do it, number one, they will take $400 billion, some giant number, and they say invest it in companies that are working on clean energy. so that's more of solyndra, picking winners, taking your tax dollars and -- >> harris: has government ever done that well? >> melissa: no. and finding other companies that were into meeting the standards they wanted, they can set impossible standards and then just collect more money that they will spend somewhere else. you have to realize, it's a money grab. >> harris: i wrote that down, and i see the money grab portion of it. but is also a direct hit on president trump. what he says he wants to do is wipe away some of the trump tax cuts for corporations in order to pay for this. yeah, it's a money grab, but there's also -- >> dagen: because there is no role in the private sector of producing quite. which is what the gas and the fracking and the technical
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logical developments there, have made us a leader in emissions. really quickly, you are right of center if you have a green new deal that doesn't have universal health care and job guarantees in it. that's how crazy left is. >> harris: a key hearing today in court on new evidence that raises doubts about the citizenship question in the next census. what is at stake as the justice department fires back? ♪ ♪
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>> harris: fox news alert, hearing set this afternoon the manhattan federal court over allegations that the g.o.p. redistricting experts played a key role in adding a citizenship question to the 2020 census. raising questions for top administration officials. the aclu saying recently unearthed documents showing the now deceased gerrymandering expert recommended adding the question, saying it "would be
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advantageous to republicans and non-hispanic whites ats, and we could be a disadvantage for democrats." after the documents became public, the aclu filing a motion informing the supreme court of new evidence, writing, "we always had suspicions about the real motive of the administration, but this is the clearest evidence we have that the genesis of this was an effort to dilute minority voting power. the real reason behind this was the opposite of what they were saying." but the doj firing back, calling the aclu's filing "frivolous, and an attempt to reopen an already decided case." in the meantime, secretary wilbur ross told congress that he added the question solely at the suggestion of the justice department with the goal of better and forcing the voting rights act. house democrats just last hour announcing that they will delay plans to hold both ross and attorney general william barr in contempt over failure to comply
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with the subpoena requesting documents on the census question. the commerce department last night agreeing to provide more information. the supreme court, scheduled to rule on the issue by the end of the month before they break for the summer. emily, this is all legalese, and a lot to sort through. give us a little breakdown of what's going on here. >> emily: sure. i will tackle all of those items in the order you read them. first of all, with that new evidence, there is a procedure for the supreme court to admit new evidence. this is after oral arguments and it hasn't been vetted by the local federal court. so it's unlikely it'll actually be admitted by the justices who have started to read their opinions. in terms of the actual merits of the argument, there is an issue of timing, when the doj said the defense -- with the plaintiffs, in this case, has been, "this defense came after the decision." the merits, with the doj's
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arguing, "look, it's on the states that are harmed by the government. the government is not harming you. it's the illegal aliens who choose not to comply with the question that are actually creating the harm." secondly, they are saying, "we have effectively delegated by congress the power to to do th" it's an administered decision by the supreme court. i think it will vote in favor of keeping the question. >> harris: just a legal question for you, emily. it's my understanding that if you skip a question, that sits in one lane. but if you answer it incorrectly or dishonestly, are there only americans in your home? or how it's going to be worded. the answer tend not to be true. that's where the legality comes in as a problem for the person who takes the census questionnaire. >> emily: you're right. an additional layer of that, and a subject of oral arguments as well, who is to say what things
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prevent someone from answering every question anyway back how can you relegate -- >> harris: so you can skip one but you can't lie. >> emily: correct. never lie to the government. >> melissa: evening there's a penalty if you live but there's no penalty if you skip it? >> emily: correct. >> melissa: but people would still be afraid that if they skip it they are admitting it. >> emily: calling attention to it. so people won't even fill it out at all. >> dagen: that's the argument, that they will be able to access individuals who are safe, if they think the question is on -- i just want to follow-up on something emily said. they have written this about this extensively. to your point, the five conservative justices seemed to agree with the trump administration, that congress has delegated to the commerce secretary the broad authority over the census question. neil gorsuch and clarence thomas
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noted a related opinion last fall. with that unconstitutional for cabinet officers to have political motives for policy. under the obama administration. >> melissa: josh, if you are sincerely interested in getting the best data on what is going on, what's the best way to do it? to leave the question in and have people, fewer people come answer the survey may be because they were afraid? worth and not have it in their and have people answer -- you don't really know who they are. they are not telling you whether their citizens are not. whether they are paying taxes. to know who is where and who they are and what resources they need. and if you are paying your taxes. all that kind of stuff. to know what's going on. i wonder which way is the better way to know what's going on. >> josh: i think it's so incredibly clear, i'm confounded by the entire argument. ultimately with the aclu is arguing is that somehow it is a
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profound criminal conspiracy, that the united states government takes the census, which it does once every ten years, and counts american citizens. for the purpose, i might add, of allocating taxpayer resources. american taxpayer resources, to populations counted by said census. so what we are talking about is fundamentally making the determination that the government no longer represents the american people. with a representative people in general. they could be mexican people, irish people, english people, russian people. they could be any people they want to be because we can't count them anymore. i think that's just an incredibly shortsighted way to do this. >> melissa: and obviously we know it's true that every party is trying to do this to get the account to go the way they want. we know that. politicians operate on politics. house speaker nancy pelosi is denying reports of a growing rebelling and her bank submitted her refusal to pursue
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♪ >> i see in some metropolitan journals and on some tv that we are trying to find our way, unsure that . make no mistake, we know what path we are on. because there is great grief and sadness and pain in our country about the behavior of this president of the united states. >> harris: house speaker nancy pelosi talking about the past. pushing back on reports that house democrats are struggling to hold back a growing push in
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their ranks for impeachment. nearly 60 house democrats now are on the record saying the support impeaching president trump. speaker pelosi approved other actions for now, including a vote on holding attorney general william barr and former white house counsel don mcgahn in contempt of congress. meanwhile, more than 25 liberal groups have signed a letter to pelosi demanding that she begin impeachment proceedings. who is wagging what here? is the dog wagging the tail, or the tail wagging the dog? is she still in charge or no? [laughter] >> josh: barely. she's writing a runaway bucking bronco at this point. [laughter] most of her conference is just begging for impeachment. i think most of the democratic primary grass burners -- >> harris: it doesn't mean he's leaving office. >> josh: not at all. to the contrary, it means a second term. that being said, didn't see the world that way. they hate this president so much
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but no matter what the evidences -- it doesn't matter about the mueller report, about barr's testimony. it certainly doesn't matter about don mcgahn and all the other thing she is trying to use as distractions from the impeachment discussion. all this is about is taking it out on president trump. she knows this is a political loser. she's trying her best to bury it under the rug. >> harris: what do you think of and some of the things that maybe she and the president have said about this? because he genuinely seemed to be surprised when she said he had engaged in a cover-up. >> josh: i think the most interesting interchange was a couple of weeks ago when she was going to go down there and talk about infrastructure, but before we went such a do a press conference to just sort of slam the president. >> harris: you don't think that was accidental? [laughter] >> josh: i don't think she thought he would react the way he did. >> harris: really? come on! >> melissa: you don't walk to a camera and say he's in the process of a cover-up as you are on the way to meet him, and no
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one asked her what he's covering up. >> harris: why is that? >> dagen: i can tell you what they're doing. >> melissa: one more point, i don't think bringing about peabody and sherman's way back machine and bringing somebody from the nixon demonstration to testify and say why this is like watergate, that's going to help their case. but what nancy pelosi said there was really interesting. i think she was talking to democrats. "remember, appeasement will remove him." it's a rebuke, and indictments. i don't think that many people really realize that if they go to impeachment he's not going away. >> dagen: what they are trying to do -- and she is very crafty and smart -- they are trying to use the language, cover-up, get the president mad, and make him look bad. and they are also going to try and shift slowly but surely the way the american people feel about impeachment. the vast majority people are against it. what they are going to do is try and call witnesses. they will be pushed back for the white house and then they are
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going to have jerry nadler outside with his finger and they are trying to predict which way the wind is blowing. and if they can't move it, they won't pursue impeachment. but they have to have a majority of americans on board with it, otherwise they will get voted out of office next year. >> harris: my question has been what is the tipping point, and how much time are we looking at? because they aren't going to be able to run out the clock if they don't come up with some evidence, i imagine. although i've heard you say you can impeach for anything. 21 democratic presidential hopefuls have now qualified for the first debates later this month. what about the other guys who didn't make it? anyway, who decides all this and what's fair? we will debate it. ♪ we know their rates are good, we know that they're always going to take care of us. it was an instant savings and i should have changed a long time ago. we're the tenney's and we're usaa members for life. call usaa to start saving on insurance today.
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♪ >> dagen: a high-stakes fight brewing among the 2020 democratic presidential candidates as we approach the first debates at the end of the month. 21 presidential hopefuls have qualified to participate, but the dnc capped the number at 20. this virtually guarantees that one candidate will be left off the stage. a spokesperson for the last candidate to qualify, colorado senator michael bennett, taking issue with the process seeing this. "the dnc should be lifting up credible voices, not excluding them. regardless of dnc power plays,
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michael knows that winning in 2020 starts in living rooms across america. i laugh because, again, it's going to be a sweaty miami with all of these people fighting with each other on the stage. in the first debate. how does this play out? >> josh: i do have some sympathy for the dnc. i've tried very hard to not have sympathy over my career, but this case, i do. at what point do you get to a point where you are not a viable contender. if you've been running for president for three or four months and he don't have a single respondent in any poll that says they're going to vote for you, i'm not sure you belong at sage. bill de blasio doesn't do you need to be on the stage. is not a viable candidate for the primary. it takes away from some of the viable candidates. 20 is a lot. 20s lot of candidates. we have a varsity of the energy v debate, a separate -- >> dagen: and they are still better. >> melissa: and give them credit because it's a much
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smarter way to do at this time, instead having the undercard, everybody knows that, people don't take it seriously. we don't know which half is better. they are going to get criticized no matter what. you have to draw the line somewhere. you have to say, "okay, enough." but inevitably that last person, the 21st person, is going to feel like they have just as much right as the 20th person, and they will probably be right. life is not fair. >> dagen: emily, otherwise -- the lights just went out. >> melissa: the democrats turned out the lights on us! >> dagen: i'm 80, i care about lighting. [laughter] i was going to say to you, emily, otherwise if you cut the line off somewhere. otherwise every liberal spotlight-seeking moths in the country is going to be running for the nomination. >> emily: everybody is spinning out and trying to be creative and rude to differentiate themselves from
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the pack, which is in some cases shooting themselves in the foot. but i also think the larger picture needs to be seen for them right now, which is that any donation dollars, it's detracting from the ultimate figurehead of the party. ultimately they should see than that it's a self-sacrifice to be made for the larger good in their eyes. >> dagen: final word real quick? >> josh: i think there's an awful lot of candidates. democrats have a ton of choices and they will suffer if somebody doesn't make that stage. >> dagen: here is abided during the first debate. barack, barack, barack. just don't make a gaffe. more "outnumbered" in just a moment. i switched to miralax for my constipation.
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(sound of can hitting bag and bowl) (clapping) always there in crunch time. >> melissa: our thanks to josh holmes. i don't want to forget the purpose of this trip was 75 years since the day. >> josh: incredibly important. very glad president trump is over there celebrating it. we are so ably grateful to the sacrifices made 75 years ago. >> melissa: and remember in that relationship and that
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friendship. this time when these countries were so important to each other and continue to be. >> dagen: people go to bedford, virginia, it's where our national d-day memorial's. the town of 3,000 people who lost 19 young men on that one day. >> melissa: we are back here tomorrow. here's harris. >> harris: fox news alert, a big meeting is set at the white house coming up on tariffs and the border. the president has already been weighing in from overseas. you are watching "outnumbered overtime" now. i'm harris faulkner. the president meeting right now, we are hearing that could be wrapping up soon, with ireland's prime minister as he is abroad for another day. vice president mike pence and secretary of state mike pompeo are set to meet later this afternoon. okay, really quick, these pictures are live. that's the president and first lady getting on marine one. they are in ireland today. he has met and talked trade, tariffs, and a border sundry other issues with the irish prime minister.
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