pete: we'll see you tomorrow! jedediah: have a good saturday, >> it is done, the u.s. and mexico striking a major deal. welcome, even, happy weekend, i'm neil ca due show -- cavuto. now to details of the deal that was struck really last minute. the trump administration taking tariffs on mexican goods off the table because mexico's now agreed to do pretty much everything the president demanded; take a tougher stance on illegal immigration, for one. we're going to get the take from iowa republican senator joni the ernst in just a minute. >> reporter: good morning.

president trump left the white house about 25 minutes ago to an unknown location. the past few weeks he's been golfing, but on the way he tweeted that people are excited about this mexico trade deal. about a week ago the mexican foreign minister flew to united states hoping to avert this crisis, as he called it. it seems like that worked out. the president made this announcement just hours after getting home yesterday afternoon. it's fairly common for him to stop and talk to cameras. a few hours later he put out this tweet. it reads in part, quote, the tariffs scheduled to be implemented by the u.s. on monday against mexico are hereby indefinitely suspended. as many predicted, the monday deadline would pass and 5% tariffs would go into effect. early this morning he took to twitter again. he wrote mexico has agreed to immediately begin buying agricultural products from our

great farmers. the mexican president will deploy 6,000 troops to southern border, allow migrants waiting the conclusion of the american asylum process to be sent to mexico, give migrants a chance to get jobs -- now, this is a big one -- stopping human trafficking and smuggling organizations and, if needed, take more actions. mexico didn't specify those actions. late last night the ambassador to united states spoke to reporters following the announcement of the deal. listen. >> those crossing the u.s. southern border to seek asylum will be rapidly returned to mexico where they may await their asylum claim. >> reporter: but will this deal work, that is the big question. treasury secretary steve mnuchin is in japan. he spoke the reporters and said if this does not work out and mexico does not hold up their side of the bargain, it appears those tariffs could be back on the table. neil. neil: thank you, david, very

much, at the white house. mexico's agreed to immediately begin buying large quantities of agricultural product. that's a new wrinkle in here that was not known more than a few minutes ago. iowa's republican senator joni ernst is us right now. senator, always good to have you. do you know, senator, what those farm if products might be? >> i have not talked to president yet about what those farm products might be, but we do know that mexico is the number one purchaser of iowa's exported corn. so we do see this as a great step forward, and we are breathing a sigh of relief that we will not see these tariffs. the president negotiated with the mexican delegation, and we are glad for that outcome. neil: many of your colleagues, i don't know if you were among them, senator, were saying that the president was overreaching here, that to use tariffs to get your way on something that had nothing to do with trade was a big overreach. obviously, that is met gated

now, but -- mitigated now. but what do you think of that? >> well, i am not in favor of tariffs. i think we need to get the usmca trade deal done, off the table, but we do recognize that there is a humanitarian crisis at the border, and we are calling on our democratic colleagues to help step up and fund border security, fund those agents, fund additional beds as necessary. we need cooperation from our end to make sure that happens. the president has asked for a very long time now. we in congress need to step up and provide him with the tools necessary so that we don't have to face tariffs. neil: you know, the president will likely cite this agreement, senator, say see? it worked out, my strategy here. and he might try it again. if he were with another country, maybe for other reasons, are you okay with that? >> well, i would probably push back depending on the circumstances. again, mexico is typically a very, very good trade partner,

normally a very good partner across the board for us. countries like china, obviously, i do support the president's efforts with tariffs against china because they are very bad actors when it comes to working with us on trade deals. but certainly, it depends on the circumstances. but the president is a brilliant negotiator, and he came out on top this time. neil: when it comes to farmers, allocated a little over $12 million to help them out and get them over the top before a deal could be scored, presumably at the time, with china. but they're still hurting, and i'm wondering what you tell farmers back in your state. >> it is very tough, and our farmers are very, very concerned, they are anxious. we need to see some of these trade deals concluded and move on. not only are we facing repercussions from these trade deals, various tariffs, but as you have seen, we have weather events crossing the mid that are

really impacting our planting season as well. so they're in dire straits. they just want to see results. and if the president can deliver those results, they will continue supporting him. neil: senator, he'd like to share a tweet the you're probably far with, senator chuck schumer was writing this last week -- last night, i apologize. this is an historic night. the president has announced he has cut a deal to greatly reduce or eliminate illegal immigration, and now that the problem is solved, i'm sure we won't be hearing any more about it in the future. what'd you make of that? [laughter] >> well, i'm glad that the democratic leader, chuck schumer, is supportive of the president's efforts. but, of course, we do need to see mexico follow through with what they have agreed to. that is really important. so not only are iowans and others across the united states concerned about illegal immigration, they're also concerned with making sure that we get trade deal done and so forth. so we need to address those, and

this is a lot congress could be doing if we had the support coming from our colleagues on the left. i do know that a number of my colleagues have traveled to the border, and they do see the crisis that is ongoing. so hopefully, we can gain a little more support from our colleagues in the senate and actually move on legislation that will make a difference and enable our president to focus on the business of the day instead of this humanitarian crisis and illegal immigration. neil: when you talked about making sure the mexicans honor in the agreement, how do you go about seeing that, senator, approving it? in other words, if there are more apprehensions i guess primarily with guatemala, what do you want to see and what do you suspect we should see that, you know, the mexicans are delivering on it? >> well, there are some concrete things that we can track, and one of that is the deployment of their mexican national guard and soldiers along their border to actually stop others from

central america from flowing into mexico. that we can track. we also need to see some results with the human trafficking. we are starting to see children that are being used as tools to get into the united states. they'll circulate with a family into the united states, that child will be sent back to mexico, recirculated across the border with a different family or a different adult. so we need to see results there. we don't want to see the repeat offenders. we don't want to see the using of children to get across our border as well. the asylum seekers, if we can return them to mexico until they're granted the opportunity to come in front of a judge, that's also one thing we can track too. so there are a number of concrete things that we can watch for with this mexican agreement and, believe me, i do hope they follow through. neil: all right, senator, thank you. good seeing you on a saturday, we appreciate it. senator joni ernst, a top player in the senate leadership.

by the way, the mexicans have said precious little about this agreement, just that they're glad it's resolved. they do plan to hold a support mexico rally in tijuana later today. it was originally supposed to defend the liberty of mexico. we'll be on that. also a great week for wall street. a lot of it buy with bid by get -- buoyed by getting trade deals and the fact that the federal reserve is at the ready. after this. (phone rings) lisa jones! lisa: (on phone) hey carl, what are you charging me for online equity trades? (nervous chuckle) lisa: and do i get my fees back if i'm not happy? like a satisfaction guarantee? ugh. schwab! lisa: oh right, i'm calling schwab. thanks, carl! wait, lisa! lisa... are you getting low costs backed by a satisfaction guarantee? if not, talk to schwab. a modern approach to wealth management.

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disparaging comment about the president, within a nanosecond, he tweets something back. so it's a jump ball, mr. president, it is in your court. we'll see what happens. in the meantime, wall street just dodged a tariff bullet. even ahead of that dodge, stocks were running up largely on the belief that if everything hits the fan, the market soaring this week. market analyst dan get trued and susan lee. susan, that was what was driving it, right? >> oh, yeah. that's right. it was 100% priced in we'll see lower interest rates by the end of this year. for the, 80% next month -- in fact, 80% next month. neil: some are even saying the end of this month. that would be unreal. >> 25% probability, so a little

unrealistic, but i would say that this deal, i still think the fed's going to cut, i think the markets have priced in a deal. do they go three times? three interest rate cuts? i think they might be paring that back. neil: i could flint around and say now that we have a deal, or dan, the suddenly slower jobs growth report -- and the last one notwithstanding -- maybe the less that we seed a cut. >> yeah. i actually don't agree with susan -- >> what? what do you mean? >> i do not agree. [laughter] neil: okay, well -- [inaudible conversations] >> because i don't believe that the fed should actually make the cut right now. i think we are at virtually full employment as we are right now, 3.6%. it hasn't moved. and we have really no inflation. so why should the fed go into their quiver and pull out that arrow right now? [inaudible conversations] >> what's happening in the

markets, and -- [inaudible conversations] [laughter] >> there was no job growth. i mean, did you see how many jobs were added? >> 75,000 jobs were added -- forget expectations. i think that it wasn't as bad a job report as people think that it was. is so retail went down, but you would anticipate that right now -- neil: [inaudible] >> i don't think so. >> i completely disagree because this is what drives consumer spending. i mean, when you have a cut like, this first of all, this goes back to president's whole political strategy of, you know, imposing the tariffs, the boy that cried wolf and, you know, were they going to have an impact. people just follow consumer spending, knew that it was going to have an impact on the consumer later on in the year. however, this perfect storm of this jobs report coming out, the

tariffs maybe being imposed, maybe not, and then the fed potentially cutting these interest rates -- neil: but he is right about this, although i'm not trying to get the guys against the gals -- [laughter] right. i don't know if i'm going to get -- [inaudible conversations] >> right down the middle. neil: one thing is that there aren't a whole lot of arrows in the federal reserve's quiver. >> i agree. neil: there have been ten hikes, so you take two, maybe as you said, possibly three of them out of the equation, you don't have a lot of wiggle room. not even when you really should do something. >> yeah. back in the 1990s i think it was 6% interest rates when they started rate cutting. 2.25, 2.5, not a lot of ammo and powder -- neil: that's really all dan was trying to say. >> don't stand up for him. neil: all right. >> no inflation. inflation is just as bad as high inflation, by the way. and don't forget the inversion

in yield curve. think of the run for safety right now. if things are so great, why are people putting money with the german government and paying them to hold their money? neil: i don't know what nancy pelosi had to say, but this was something the president had said before nancy pelosi released her statement. nervous nancy pelosi and the democratic house are getting nothing done. he didn't say hitha. perhaps they could lead the way with the usmca that replaces nafta, the worst deal in thissist are i of the -- the history of the. he's saying they're the ones that are going to be on defense, but i'm saying no matter who you side with here, does it mean we're not going to get a whole lot done? >> specifically -- neil: anything. >> -- what just transpired in the 48 hours? i mean, clearly mexico came to table and said we're going to go ahead and come to terms with or

meet -- neil: see, i don't think the democrats and a lot of republicans thought this would work. and that this strategy would pay off. finish it's still early. >> yes. neil: but there is the notion here that they've got it and, naturally, damn this thing, right? they've got to criticize it. >> i think, look, i think now the mexico -- mexican deal is in place, i think the president really needs to turn his attention where it should be, and that's with china. to me, that's the key, and that's why the fed needs to kind of stay back a little bit. let's see how things -- neil: does this change your posture? [inaudible conversations] >> think of this hard negotiating stance with china, that's kind of what brought mexico to table. youthis deal with mexico who are patrolling the borders more tough -- [inaudible] [inaudible] >> more important than the trade deal with china. neil: i would agree with that. i was very worried about corona

prices -- [laughter] >> i was worried about the avocados. neil: if you're china then and you work in that region, to they respond to that? boy, we are on defense here. the united states seems to be coming from a position of strength, their central bank has all but said -- >> yeah. that's what e was saying. i think when you have the federal reserve on your side, you have mexico coming to table and doing that with threats of tariffs, i think that solidifies and strengthens the president's and white house's hand in negotiating a possible trade deal with china. >> well, i don't want to say i disagree -- [laughter] but -- >> say it. >> i think china's going to play the long game here, and i actually don't expect china's going to do anything too significantly until they see what 2020 is looking like. >> how can you say that? >> [inaudible] reelected, it puts -- neil: they're going to wait out the election? now you're crazy. and i love you dearly. [inaudible conversations] >> there is no way that china

won't be able to somehow come to table with their own sort of negotiating tactics -- neil: so you don't think, you think that they've got to do something soon. >> they have to. i mean, mexico just did that. neil: dan, you're saying they could just wait it out. >> they could wait it out. >> no. >> i think that's a possibility. neil, now i know how you feel -- [laughter] neil: what do you mean? >> that's what he's doing. they find jobs for every graduate out of china, or how do you know that without a strong economy? their economy's slowing down. neil: it's still pretty good. >> 6.5%, down from 10 a few years ago. half the population is you should the poverty line. neil: you should be ate will nicer be a little nicer to dan. >> i bought him a croissant is

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hard to get our agreement on immigration completed. what that means, the president says, is that the tariffs will not go into effect as they were supposed to on monday. and that his counterpart in mexico did a good job. all right, in the meantime, the democratic-led house judiciary committee is holding a hearing on monday on potential obstruction of justice. some are calling it the fist of an impeachment trial. i'm not so savvy, i'm not a lawyer, but this next one is, and a darn good one, ken starr. ken, always good to have you. >> hey, thank you, neil. neil: all right. so help me with this. it has all the makings and trappingsings of being an imetchment trial without it being an impeachment trial. john dean, of course,over of watergate fame. there's a reason for that, isn't there? >> right. it's a show trial trying to stir up interest. what we've seen, neil, is the

speaker of the house, all the reports i've seen has said, no way. we just don't want to go down imevenmented radio. -- impeachment road. it's a cul-de-sac, or a precipice. but i think what she has been doing, clearly using some very unkind language and comments that i think are unbecoming to speak ore the house of representatives, well, let's just wait, and president trump will go to jail. really a very naughty comment. but i think that what she is trying to do is to keep these superhawks, the 'em peachment superhawks in her party, at bay, keep them leashed. but this is a way, getting a john dean which is not a very serious thing to do, it's theater, is a way of, i think, feeding the superhawks a little bit of food. neil: you know, john dean was

among those famous, of course, for saying -- commenting his own conversations with richard nixon at the timeshared with sam urban and the senate intelligence committee that there was a cancer around the nixon presidency. and he has since referred in appearances on another network that the same applies here. what do you make of that? >> wrong, wrong, wrong. i listened to john dean, and i simply say how the mighty have fallen. he was, in fact, involved in a conspiracy. what we now know from the mueller report, the 446 pages, is that there was no conspiracy. at all. and i think john dean, if he loves his country and i hope he does, would say, thank goodness. we had a president who did not can commit crimes of conspiracy or anyone's around him colluding with the russians. finish we move, neil, as you

know to debate about the so-called obstructive acts, and john dean will say whatever he wants to say about that. bob mueller himself has made it very clear that he did not conclude that the president of the united states committed obstruction of justice. there's been a lot of talk around it, but he has said i didn't exonerate him, but he also did not conclude that the president committed a crime. my own review of the report says the president did not commit a crime. neil: could he have said that if he wanted to? he was making an argument, again, didn't understand there were restrictions on how far he could go, and i was thinking the two and a half years of this investigation, whatever it was, that recommendation one way or the other would be made and then it ended up being noncommittal on a couple of things. so what could he have sea or done? -- said or done? >> he had the authority, indeed,

he had the direction to determine whether the president of the united states committed a crime. neil: you were very une west virginia call in your investigation of the clintons. why wasn't he? >> right. well, first of all, our evidence was overwhelming that bill clinton committed perjury and all those other crimes. and it's essentially undisputed, stipulated virtually, that bill clinton committed federal crimes. not only is there no stipulation, there's no fight -- that's why bob mueller needs to testify. that's why if he doesn't testify, i'm just going to go ahead and say it, we need an inspector general's investigation. that's what he was charged with doing, and he did not do miss job. >> neil: so we really can't advance the ball very much here. beyond the politics of it, you hate donald trump, you probably still hate him. if you love donald trump, probably still love him and are

not suspicious of him. what happens? >> well, what should happen is people should step back and say, and i think the american people have, and say let us give thanks that there was no collusion, that there was no conspiracy with the russians. and, in fact, let me make a very brief comment on this. this is so important, that bob mueller found through his elaborate investigation that the russians were caught flat-footed during the transition because they didn't know anyone in the campaign. they did not know donald trump. so yaw say, wait, what about the moscow hoe snell read the report. -- hoe snell if read -- hotel? realize the report. there were no connections on the part of the kremlin. that should be reaffirming to american people and all persons of goodwill that the trump campaign was completely innocent.

there were efforts by the russians but not reciprocated by the trump campaign and certainly not implicating the president himself. neil: the democrats are doing, obviously, or is -- is to move past that, at key moments trying to block stuff, obstruct stuff. how far do you think that's going to go? >> it just has to be -- it doesn't work, and the reason it doesn't work is the investigation, really quickly, was allowed to go forward without obstruction. did the president like the investigation? no. did he wish it ill? yes. but did he stop the investigation? no, hety not. neil: all right. ken starr, it's all always a pleasure. thank you for copping in. >> thank you. neil: well, they're giving the business, does anyone have any concern at all about just doing the nation's business? i'm talking to you, democrats. i'm talking to you, republicans. i'm talking to you, adults. why didn't you book your family vacation

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progress in washington on lockdown? it looks like that's a given. we've got lee carter here, republican strategist joseph peña, last but not least, more left of center comment cater dan mcloughlin. i just think this is a preview of coming attractions. we're going to see this, you know, again and again. >> right. yes, this is the new normal, right in he is meaner about nancy pelosi than he is about kim jong un and other people -- neil: of course; he has not been very -- >> also there's a little bit of hypocrisy. she's talking about things that may have some legs legally speaking. this is going to go on and on. the americans want infrastructure week. i think, honestly, we would love to see it. they both want to win. neil: my more immediate concern is the debt limit we run up against later summer, and they don't appear to be making much

progress there because that is more a threat to our economic security. >> yeah. i mean, i think that the president has to understand that the economy is the last backstop. as far as having a pathway to re-election. so i think it is very important to keep that in mind. i don't think they can afford another game of russian roulette when it comes to another government shutdown. i think real listly we're really -- realistically, we're really dealing with political theater. nervous nancy or nasty nancy ask and where -- [inaudible] neil: lee, who's winning that war? seems crass -- >> you know, look, i think right now it's just by party line. i think that the president has a big win with mexico this week, so i think he's going to see a surge in popularity. he does these kinds of things. this isn't the first time he's called nancy names, it's not going to be the last time. then he'll come back in a few

weeks and say i respect her. we cannot be surprised by it. is nancy pelosi acting differently by talking about how she wants the president to be locked up? neil: that is clearly about her base. >> absolutely. >> because as much as we talk about the idea that the american people aren't ready for impeachment, democrats are. she has to thread the needle between what the country wants and what the democrats. and it was congress to make the decision on obstruction. and democrats want that. neil: so if you begin impeachment hearings without calling them impeachment hearings, aren't you, again, trying to have it both ways? >> yeah, absolutely. neil: so how is this going to help her? >> there are something like 68 68 -- 48% of americans who want to see the president investigated, impeached or criminal proceedings to come against him.

they've decided, i think the democrats, you can definitely see they have made a decision not to go high, they're going to go low. they're going to come out punching. they're going to say this is what we're going to do, and i think that's clearly their strategy, and i'm not sure it's the wrong one because it's going to energize their base. neil: i don't know that it changes the middle ground or the independents. >> i think at the end of the day what most americans are unified on is the fact they do not want to see impeachment right now. and i think nancy being a student of history remembers what happened with bill clinton, and i think that her going from the trying to be this individual who is kind of above the fray to now doubling down on lock him up, basically, speaks to fact she realizes she's going to lose control of that base, and she needs -- neil: but if you've got a backdrop of a stronger economy, optimism over a trade deal with mexico maybe sets the pace for one with china, democrats would have to be a little worried about that. >> i think looking at the

clinton impeachment is instructive. so there's always this chicken and egg question, does the public lead and the legislature follow or vice versa. looking back at what happened with clinton, actually, public opinion changed once impeachment proceedings began. neil: there we had a strong economy and strong market. >> right. so are the democrats waiting for public opinion when, in fact, they should be leading? i don't know. one thing newt gingrich said in 2018 he should have been slower and waller, and i think that's what nancy pelosi is doing. >> the way to energize democrats is to get them fired up about this issue because they can't go on the economy, they've got to go on attacking trump, and that's what they're doing. i think that's their strategy for getting people out to the polls in the primaries. neil: i just think democrats and republicans should be very

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neil: all right, this is getting kind of weird. can exactly what is russia up to? if first, vladimir putin and china's xi jinping, then a russian jet -- [inaudible] and then, of course, the biggest event caught on tape, russian warships nearly colliding at sea. then my next guest says ignore these developments at your own peril. the retired army lieutenant colonel and alliance of evil author bob mcginnis. colonel, very good to have you. these things not just coincidental, are they?

>> no. they're by design. you mentioned the meeting between putin and xi. this was their 30th meeting. they signed, you know, a number of trade deals which are significant, but the trade between those two countries pales in comparison to us. you know, the last half an hour we've been, you know, listening to your people, your guests talking about the trade war. that's an indicator. i would say the posture issues with the su-35 going after a u.s. navy reconnaissance plane in international wears just two days ago -- waters, and, of course, the ships that almost collided in the philippine sea, we have routine things like that across the world whether it's under the sea or off the alaska coast or off the california coast. these things becoming very predictable. i identify 16 indicators in "alliance of evil" that we've

seen over the last few years, and they tend to be increasing. clearly, president xi has his china dream, which he calls it, which is basically world dominance militarily and economically by the middle of this century. so we'll see if that comes to fruition. you know, they're playing hardball, we need to do likewise. neil: colonel, this sent in the -- this incident in the east china sea, these are international waters, right? >> right. neil: okay. so we sent some carriers to the south china sea where, as you've reminded me, the chinese are militarizing islands that don't belong to them, and it wouldn't take long for something to go awry. what do we do? >> well, we have to be prepared for that circumstance. and i know the secretary of defense, secretary of state are very concerned about that. that's why in the last few weeks we have been talking about the possible blowup in the persian gulf. but clearly, the south china sea, it's an incident almost

every day, neil, right? our ships, our planes are being harassed. now, the chinese have what they call the nine dash line which they claim all that area all the way down to malaysia as their sovereign territory. neil: but it's not, right, colone not recognized by the hague as their sovereign territory and, in fact, there was a case brought by the philippines and the vietnamese that pushed back against that, and the international court agreed. however, you know, they're doing the same sort of thing, you know, along the arctic coastline, northern russia -- neil: no, no, you're right. colonel, they're doing it everywhere. the only reason why i'm raising this with you, you know, one country's per becomes the other -- per becomes the other's reality. the uss pueblo, it was in international water, the north koreans said, no, no, you're in our waters. they seized that vessel,

captured those men, beat the hell out of those men. they were released more than a year later but near skeletons of their form selves. and yet they were clearly in violation of international laws regarding international waters. and i'm just wondering if someone gets crazy now challenge u.s. ships in a region that the chinese, for example, say it's southern or and theirs, then what? >> that's true, neil. you know, there's a titanium flag of the russian federation at the exact point on the bottom of the ocean of the arctic arcticcircle. with we need to realize the russians and the chinese willing to go after us should we counter their claim. and that's why we're beginning to relook at our arctic operations, we're beginning to look at our antarctic operations because of the minerals and the energy resources there that are strategically important not to only to us, but to rest of the

world. these two nations and their emerging alliance is critical for us to watch. and that's why president trump rightly, in his national security strategy, national defense strategy, have a two plus three strategy. china and russia are premiere and, of course, iran, north korean proxies is and viability extremist organizations. we have to refocus on those enemies across the board. every sector, trade, you know certainly nuclear programs because we're facing a nuclear standoff because the chinese are not part and parcel of the new s.t.a.r.t. agreement that comes up to renegotiation in another year plus. these are thing of some consequence. neil: all right. colonel, i want to thank you. more i want to thank you for your incredible service to this country. we have a lot more coming up, including a little assignment i've got for you.

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♪ neil: all right. the folks at google are not giggling over this one, apparently the target of federal investigators who just want to know, you know what? are you getting too big for your britches? it's not just google, facebook and a host of others. it does seem to be, you know, open season on these guys. why? >> it's the perfect storm the. it's the perfect storm. number one, these guys have have all gotten huge, right? so real antitrust issues have arisen, but then you've got 24 democrats running for president, half of whom hate the companies, so this is a great issue for

them. and then you've got a republican president who feels some of these guys are so big and so powerful that he's not able to get his message out, and they're suppressing the conservative side -- neil: that's what he's been arguing about with google and all that. so it's an odd, you know, avenger force here, right? republicans and democrats who equally want to go after these guys. so if you aren a investor finish an investor in any one of these companies, should you be worried? >> i don't think right now. let's take google, because that's what they target, right? historically, even companies that have gotten broken up -- and i'm not saying it's going to happen, but if there's one out of, you know, the facebook, the netflix, everyone, if there's one you can make an argument they've gotten too big, you know, they have the browser, they have the e-mail system, the android operating system, you could make an argument those are the three businesses. they all did very well. so -- neil: got broken up in the

'80s? ronald reagan was president at the time. i always get nervous. when the government is doing it. >> yeah, you're right. we had this conversation. it's uncomfortable, especially for free market folks to think about the government stepping in and saying you gotten too big, too successful. and that's true. but going back to sherman act, the clayton act and the act that brought the federal trade commission into being, the purpose was to target those companies and say, you know, you have gotten so big that you don't even allow for meaningful competition in your space. kodak, you couldn't develop a piece of film -- neil: the irony was new technologies arose that put kodak, essentially, out of business. >> it did -- kodak, true, but i would argue they didn't go out of business because of what happened in their antitrust dealings with the government. that happened for another reason. neil: but it's always some other reason, you could argue netscape, right? so i'm just wondering how far does this go and the stocks

that, by and large, you know, they've been bumpy rides the last few weeks, but they're still doing okay. >> yeah. this is a harder question to answer than the one you asked me a year ago, where the mueller information was -- investigation was going. neil: right. but you got that one dead on. [laughter] >> this one is tougher because it could go a lot of different directions. look what happened in the e.u., google just paid a big fine there. a betting man would say, look they're going to end up paying some kind of fine and make some concessions. i think google's the one that has the most to worry about, that they're really going to press. but this is going to be interesting, at least to legal geeks like me. google is very experienced at this stuff. they've been down this road, this is the fourth time. and they have a stellar group of attorneys in-house. it's going to be annal ali v. frazier fight. neil: thank you very much. in the meantime, we've got a

protest going on in tijuana, mexico pretty soon, but it's now turning into a celebrate mexico rally. we're on that and what happens now. stay with us.

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neil: what was supposed to be a protest is a party invoking mexico now it has been turned into a celebration and steve harrigan's live in tijuana with more. >> it was shaping up to be a real battle now we hear just the reverse. now between the leaders of us and mexico. president trump leaving a short time ago i would like to thank the president of mexico and his foreign minister with

all the many representatives of the united states and mexico to work so long and hard to get our work on immigration completed. the deal was made. we were expecting a political rally and perhaps fierce but now mexican president says this will be a celebration of the hard work of the mexican negotiators. there is a couple of key provisions in the agreement. first migrants would be returned to mexico while asylum cases are determined in the us. second, mexico would very soon send troops to the southern border of guatemala. >> mexico will take unprecedented steps enforcement to curb illegal migration sending the national guard throughout mexico given priority to the southern border. >> of course, there are a number of challenges ahead both sides said within 90 days they will review the progress and take new measures if

necessary. back to you. neil: thank you steve. the presidential candidate weighs in on this as well as former texas congressman beto o'rourke that despite the deal with mexico that they are already damaging the united states and more on the reaction this is getting from those potential challenges. >> good morning we know the role that immigration played in the 2016 campaign ended with 2020 something the democrats were vying for their party nomination so now one quick take from beto o'rourke on twitter after all of this broke yesterday. the damage of drums reckless trade policies has already been done. now there is another example to be the arsonist who created the problem in the first place and the firefighter who wants

credit to address it. the truth is many candidates have not weighed in but the majority of democrats running for president will be in iowa this weekend we are sure to hear from more of them on this deal with mexico. the criticism is not just coming from democrats. former massachusetts governor who wants to wage the g.o.p. primary campaign against the president put out the statement. donald trump phony war of terror has now been ended with no winners. the united states is the economic powerhouse of the western world we need a president who understands how the economy works. well the candidates sense a an opportunity to attack the president a lot of republicans who are thrilled about the resolution. free trade republicans were never crazy about the idea of tariffs in the first place there is a question whether it might be a vetoproof majority to oppose the president on

tariffs. >> thank you very much a very good report. the president tweets about him this morning at the national border patrol council he is saying this will be a huge deal because mexico will be using their strength on the border sending also 6000 troops to the mexican border currently there are few. so now remotely throughout the border and now watching so good to see you. >> i appreciate it. neil: so what is the president saying and the optimism of this deal? . >> i am extremely optimistic because we already see what happens when the mexican government gets involved. in the early 2000 i was at the

epicenter of all illegal immigration of southeastern arizona. mexico got involved in it was like a switch. the moment the military was on the border illegal immigration went down exponentially. because with 6000 troops on the guatemalan border that's going to drop illegal immigration but the real game train change agent would be the protocols. the vast majority the people to enter illegally are sent back to mexico to hear their asylum claim then that will and the magnet that draws people here. illegal immigration will go back down to the store close back to april of 2017. neil: and then if they know they don't come here to wait it out if you can come here and then get release and disappear into shadows and not show up why wouldn't you risk that? and if people know that they

are deported then they will teach them to do it. neil: so on the whole release option, the left explains it that contrary to the views the president pushes out, the vast majority do go back to court but you are arguing different things that when they are released it's after that they don't show up. >> when they prove they should be allowed to remain in the united states, exactly that's where they disappear that obama coined the shadows of society. they do show up to the initial hearings. neil: where do they go? sanctuary cities? . >> boston, atlanta throughout the united states.

it depends where you're coming from. if you are from brazil you are going to boston or atlanta. you can see different people from different countries going to different places but they all spread throughout the entire united states. neil: so we don't need a wall anymore. >> absolutely we need a wall. it is necessary to funnel the criminal element drugs, those who cannot claim asylum. we need to put them at chokepoints to be more effective. if we don't have walls then they can pick us apart by watching us to know where we are at that is why the walls are effective. neil: i mention that because chuck schumer said now we can assume we will not hear about immigration anymore. >> we will not hear about illegal immigration but we will continue to see drugs and criminal element. i think it's very interesting

but the economist are not focusing on is the amount of money the taxpayer spend to support those illegal aliens. we spend billions of dollars. if we stop and cut that off potentially you will see our tax cut so this is a huge deal. this is an outsider who came and potentially solve the problem that none of his political predecessors could solve. neil: now some including republican said nervous he was using trade as a lover to get progress but it worked. then what? . >> it works when we stop talking about this and having me on your show which will make me very happy. i want border patrol agents and we want to be effective. we want to secure the border paraguay have spoken with the president on multiple occasions.

i wish others have that same opportunity. i have seen why he is against illegal immigration. he is trying to secure the border for the safety of the people of the united states. border patrol agents appreciate that as well. neil: with ecuador, guatemala, those who come to the southern border of mexico they are not policed but now they have 6000 additional troops, then the migrant situation that is already at the border those seeking asylum that can sit and wait it out in mexico. and then to dramatically. >> there is only one segment and that is the unaccompanied minors at all think we can return them to mexico. >> so what happens.

>> but your men and women are dealing with something. >> but that is such a small segment we will get the troops back out. so there are 40 percent of our resources that are dealing with this. neil: what happens to them? . >> they will be released to family members here or into foster care pending their asylum claims as well. it is much easier to get them to their court hearings versus an adult that can disappear into the shadows of society. neil: very interesting. i like to have you on. you are a great guest. but you are optimistic this will work. in the meantime the back and forth still talked about with the former rnc chaired donna brazil that hillary clinton would be president if not for russia.

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appointments available now. neil: the most powerful person in the democratic party if not for russia hillary clinton would be in the white house that addresses nothing about the campaign to go to the big manufactured states. >> when i talk i speak for myself i don't need you to interpret what i said. neil: i am quoting you. russia is the reason hillary clinton is not president. >> i do believe russia is one of the major factors why she is not in the white house but there are other mitigating factors and i have said that as well. neil: and she is a colleague so we get along well here. [laughter] so with the former dnc chair now fox contributor telling me

last week hillary clinton would be president if not for russia. playing out with a number of prominent democrats who are of the opinion donald trump in their eyes is not legitimate genuinely elected president. danielle. as a prominent democrat in your own right is donald trump the genuinely elected president? . >> he is. of course, he is. write this down. of course, he won the election we need to deal with it but with that coverage around that time and across all media where he said he was really opening the investigation into clip hillary clinton. with wikileaks and then defending those e-mails that crunch time it wasn't the

e-mails that was the communist. neil: so you are grateful we get into a people are thinking but it must generate a response. >> absolutely. >> the democrat base is not like the president they believe in the narrative russia is responsible for hillary clinton losing but if those advertising could really win or lose an election would have a lot more people running for office if that was the case. but people need to find a reason it's a lot easier to blame russia rather than say she was not a good candidate and it was a terrible campaign. it did not work out for her. now there's something new and is time to move on.

>> touching on the 78000 of these industrial states that donald trump picked up from traditional democrats and then starts saying we have the popular vote that there is such a focus on such a few states. so to make the argument each side will be camping out. [laughter] . >> if joe biden was a smart man he would buy a house in pennsylvania but to your point in a long list of reasons he is right up there so what has been canceled? 's. >> that is a very realistic but more important like the campaign manager that the camp is out in arizona looking for votes with the democratic nominee for the first time in

30 years but the blame lies with the lackluster campaign and the democrats can actually learn that lesson in a situation where we have a president with a still find themselves struggling. neil: the latest trade deal but the argument is if he does the site same with china as the investor? . >> let's be clear about the status of the trade deals. the usmca it is a treaty. will congress give that to the president? 's probably not we are still trying to get a deal with the uk and the e.u.. >> they have so many issues.

that is gridlock at its absolute worst. neil: but that would be a tough ride in the house. >> how can they do that? 's if they give a hard time with this as a strategy then how can they say no? 's i understand it could happen but that would be the most short sighted move that they could make. >> so here is the counterpoint the senate will be focused on appointments and on the judiciary. mitch mcconnell will not bring anything up that the house has passed so they will not do anything let the house have a win. i'm not saying that it is right. >> but democrats are going out of their way to pass the bills that don't have a way to get pass the senate so to have a

government that works together then start with infrastructure. where the walls come tumbling down. [laughter] . >> what about disaster relief? 's we have never waited this long because the republicans put in a poison pill and that disaster relief. i do take your point that democrats are playing at terrible game of hardball but is on both sides but i don't think americans are happy about it. neil: so for them still pushing that for whatever reason? . >> and there is a secret role that applies to the president. neil: what is weird about this whole phenomenon with the

popular vote versus electoral vote the idea was if you look to pick up electoral votes you have to campaign all over the country but the irony is that now they will be focused on five or six states. >> absolutely. >> donald trump really did go everywhere. i agree it will be one or two states. >> they will also be in california and new york. neil: one thing that is getting bipartisan support is taking on big tech when republican senator blackburn says thatvi is a good idea. she is next. ugh! carl, does your firm offer a satisfaction guarantee? like schwab does.

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neil: you don't see this every day to agree with regulators that when it comes to target companies like google and amazon and apple marsha blackburn joins us right now. good to have you. >> it is complement of events were a lot of republicans agree with a lot of democrats that they need watching. >> i tell you the time has come because for years to be concerned social media what we are doing with all of this information that they were scraping and using and monetizing and the big ad

companies have built monopolies in their state to review their practices to see how much they know about what they are doing your virtual you. >> you are more concerned about privacy so you go as far as your colleagues where that the google off of that is too big? . >> what i do believe it is time for us to do a deep dive and look at the structure. and then make a decision as to what we would recommend them push forward with the doj. i do not think we should predetermine that but it is time to set aside a deep dive

on these issues and look at everything from privacy to censorship and antitrust provisions that would apply to these companies. neil: senator you are at the border yesterday you are obviously well aware of the last minute deals scored with the mexican president over trade and concessions with border police not only with us but the southern border were a lot of central american immigrants get through and ultimately knock on our door. what do you think? . >> this is a very positive step. i saw 12 illegal immigrants be apprehended within 30 minutes. i was there when a car loaded with drugs was pulled aside and they began to break it apart. here is the thing. looking at this agreement the fact mexico puts their national guard throughout the

country but primarily on the southern borde border, and then again at the us-mexico border to stop the flow, the fact that people will stay in mexico without coming into the us to apply for asylu asylum, people will tell you, i have family from honduras who said we found out from the media that we needed to come to the us and we can walk across the border. he had a wife who was six months pregnant and two children and himself and based on media reports what they were hearing from the cartels who by the way, is a big business and they deal in trafficking human beings and drugs. that they could walk in here and they heard they could stay once they got to the us. so to change this policy is positive and now congress needs to do its job and change the asylum statutes on the books and give the border

patrol what they need to do their job. they need more manpower. agents on the ground. they need the border wall. technology. an agent told me yesterday yes we need technology but i'm yet to see a camera on the pole and climbed down to apprehended illegal alien we need boots on the ground. neil: good to see you senator. bernie sanders is just announcing he has a big speech pending arguing the benefits of socialism and he things that the winning strategy. is that? 's

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neil: i am a man of many talents the bernie sanders impression i will not do that but later on this week with the virtue of socialism and he argues he could make a very cogent argument like medicare for all and those are things if you take socialism out of the title is that true click clicks? 's now author of financial karma to say he is known as a

socialist and it is a good karma to espouse those virtues. >> i don't agree with socialism but certainly the things he brings up hour popular free college. why wouldn't they be in favor of that? 's so he is saying things that our popular to a segment of the population that's why every time he holds a rally it is packed. >> so take socialism out with health care for all those are endearing goals. right quick so then talk about having to pay for that but i think republicans dismiss that. >> i think people go into it thinking with the rational

line of thinking that how could you possibly have free college for all and everyone on medicare without a major impact on the economy in a negative way? 's there's no way anybody could pay for that. it is unrealistic. >> so folks like me with 90 percent income tax. we all pay for free stuff for everyone it makes no sense and every time i see them go out there to make a speech it makes my blood boil. [laughter] neil: but where is this going you don't want to acknowledge a good economy so you pick other battles. >> we should not answer any more questions. >> this is not the moment.

[laughter] so he was at the walmart meeting this week. neil: he could've been protesting outside. he could because it is the largest employer in america and bernie sanders once minimum wage they say 17 but given his success with amazon maybe we could push walmart to do the same but i don't thank you can argue with a strong economy and if they should pay more because what is a living wage? so the reason we look at this is cutting reading tape - - red tape and tax cuts and yes to buy more stock in those wages popping up at 3 percent which is higher than the average of last year. so if you want a living wage

but you want corporations to make money as well. neil: to wedge issues will it move the needle? 's wall street says it just could be president. >> that would be very interesting to see if he could really pull this off. >> they said that about donald trump so on the topic of the economy donald trump should be a lot more popular than what he is based on what is going on. i think it is his outburst and twitter people think. >> you think? 's. [laughter] . >> he does not act presidential. >> this isn't necessarily my opinion but a lot of people feel that way. >> and now he argues back of the mainstream media.

>> part of that is true but walmart letting bernie sanders into their meeting was a smart move i don't think those policies he is espousing can be ignored we saw what happened with amazon and walmart doesn't want to be stuck in that battle. >> but they are two different things they are not pre- thinking they don't understand to put that into practice takes a herculean effort on behalf of corporations like amazon and walmart it will not happen. >> amazon has already implemented that raising it at $15. >> i'm not talking minimum wage but medicare coverage for all actually walmart has a new policy with coverage for everybody with a dollar a day. >> that is why it's popular that people who would get that free college education are not

the ones paying for it so why would they support a candidate who pushes that agenda? 's this is politics. not logic so with the climate change plan? . >> but are they ditching the last one - - the tax cut. >> so one.2 trillion dollars to put this back into the economy? 's. neil: he criticized that is not enough. >> one.seven. >> that is a lot of money you can sit there and keep reading the point and to say this makes sense and it sounds great but actually implementing that will take a totally different effort and

it will not happen. neil: you guys didn't pile on dan like i was hoping that you would. that is a capitalist in him. good to see you. you could've taken the day off i appreciate that you didn't so now nancy pelosi is nasty and vindictive and horrible she told democratic lawmakers he should be locked up so here we go a man who fortunately before he came to congress was and remains a preacher and a pastor who will now raise holy fire after this. the safer you, the more you save. although i'm not really driving right now that would be unsafe. when insurance is affordable, it's surprisingly painless.

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talking about mexican trade and related issues more what the mexicans would do to secure the border. and central americans making their way not a fan of that what we have heard from house speaker nancy pelosi the president should be locked up that he is vindictive that is not the language he generally hear out of a pastor by trading and a congressman from kansas. congressman, pastor, good to have you so what has happened to our dialogue? >>. >> it appears as if americans have no limit to what we will do to further damage and already nasty discord in our country i don't think it's

right somebody is shouting lock her up i don't think it is right to talk about lock him up. i think the speaker was in a private meeting where information was leaked. i don't think she would say that publicly. neil: but you know, that would get out but here is what i am thinking in many ways the president should have some appreciation for nancy pelosi because she is the only thing standing in the way of a full-scale move toward impeachment. so as he is criticizing her at least to be aware and sensitive to the fact how many people would have thought a sandwich - - that would be so

liberal would be pushing back on the impeachment of the president of donald trump. neil: are you worried where this is going? they don't think it is necessary so go ahead. . >> i don't think so you wouldn't like to be impeached i would not like to be impeached. most people think as they are working about their children and their children's children. how will i be remembered by my grandchildren. i don't think anybody celebrates the idea of being impeached. we have only had two presidents impeached and neither were convicted. it is a stain so after

president clinton somewhere you will talk about he was impeached after the first paragraph. that's not the issue. people come up with these theories. neil: but to this point, you are a cool level head democrats and republicans respect you. but they do. but i don't see in this environment given the debt limit coming up bad timing for not getting anything done? >>. >> i think maybe i can get discombobulated but those from ohio just had a major piece of legislation called the secrecy act coming out of our committee with a 55 / zero

vote. fifty-five / zero vote in 2019 on a major piece of legislation dealing with all the possibilities of terroris terrorism, terrorist using the banking system to hurt us and of course, homegrown people. i do think we can get things done. yes. transportation everybody ought to be in favor to work with president to get transportation done. and on our side i have not heard anyone who is opposed. but now it might be becoming personal. neil: hopefully cooler heads prevail and realize they could and should work together. always a pleasure. alec baldwin is done playing president tromso now we begin to strategize who will play the president geico makes it easy to get help when you need it.

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>> that is huge. . >> don't hold your breath but it's hard to go back. >> he has a young kid and a young wife just like those mick jagger rules. so the route of the president. [laughter] i don't know i like to try to be nice but it has an edge. >> it really does. because he so busy he has a new movie it's nice to see

darrell hammond but what about kim jung-un? we talked about this. we went down to the italian thing with rudy giuliani and mike pompeo at the executive office building. [laughter] good to see you. where you from? . >> so i'm crossing the oval office with the number two. kim jung-un takes him out because he was a distraction. this is great material.

and then to save you can like it or not you have to have a character on a show like snl. >> mister caputo maybe they ran out of material because the president is doing so well. maybe they ran out of material. the president is crushing it. have you ever seen the queen smile before ever? ever? neil: that is the thing. you have such lovely hair donald. neil: she puts her purse on the table. [laughter] she did not do that. the president crushed it.

>> and milania looked great on my progressive friends come onto the radio show please just accept it when something great happens. neil: he did a great speech and then she wears sunglasses. see you are over and under? they should bring darrell back. . >> i think the president would appreciate that. neil: what about dana carvey doing bush? >>. >> that's a great idea. >> that is so true. just to be positive can we put aside the divide we are the greatest country on planet earth. my father fought in the second world war and we appreciate

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mexico will try very hard and if they do that this will be a successful agreement for the united states and mexico.