arizona, 6:30 start for the town hall with 2020 presidential candidate julian castro. bret and i will see you there we look forward to it. tucker carlson coming up next. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." one thing you can say about the left, they do get high marks for message discipline. some functionary in the propaganda department comes up with a talking point and immediately the entire herd from senior democrats in the united states senate to weekend anchors on msnbc and everyone in between all of them shamelessly repeated in verbatim like it's an original thought. have you heard a lot of lines like that. one of them you have heard a lot recently is about donald trump and the law. the president, democrats will tell you again and again, believes he is, quote, above the law. >> we have a president who believes is he above the law. >> the american people do

not want a president who believes that he is above the law. >> in the united states of america, no one is above the law. >> an american president who has no respect for the rule of law. >> no one is above the law. >> what i will say is that no one ought to be above the law. >> no one is above the law. not even the president of the united states. [cheers and applause] >> tucker: no one is above the law, they thunder, except of course for the more than 20 million foreign nationals currently living in our country illegally all under the care and the protection of the democratic party. they are, by definition, above the law. we can't punish them democrats tell us, that would be racist. drug dealers, too they're suddenly above the law as well. according to the left. so are people who defecate on sidewalks and people who spray paint overpasses and shoot up in subway stations and leave dirty needles in

park. all crimes allowed to acknowledge as crimes. human classes of people who are literally above the law. and this category is growing thanks to the activist left. just last night in the state of virginia, prosecutors backed by george soros unseeded incumbents in two large counties outside of washington, d.c. both candidates have pledged to roll back criminal enforcement in a massive way. they will, among other things, abolish cash bail, stop enforcing drug laws, put more criminals back on the street. this kind of thing is happening all over the country. getting very little coverage. in philadelphia, the murder rate is the highest it has been in a decade. why is that? well, a soros backed prosecutor called larry causener stopped enforcing the law. left wing d.a. in dallas announced he will stop prosecuting people for most kinds of theft. in dallas, thieves are now above the law. beto o'rourke approves of this trend. not only should we legalize marijuana, beto says, we ought to retroactively

expunge the criminal records of everyone who broke the law while it existed. >> we absolutely need criminal justice reform an an end to the war on drugs. and end to the prohibition on marijuana and expungement of the arrest record of everyone caught for possession of marijuana. [applause] >> tucker: how much would you bet by next year baited toe will be telling us that drug dealers deserve reparations from the rest of us. actually we are not just guessing about that. some on the left are already demanding reparations for drug dealers. democrats are so eager to reorder our justice system you might imagine that criminals are driving the agenda and of course that's part of the plan, too, literally. bernie sanders says it's time to let violent felons vote from prison. >> when we talk about the right to vote the right should exist for people who are currently in jail that is a right we must protect because we know the history of this country. we know that women didn't have the right to vote.

we know african-americans didn't have the right to vote. >> unless murderers and rape itsests can elect people from behind bars we are back to slavery that's what berniey tells us. it's hard to know how to respond to an argument stupid. it's an attempt to win votes. what you are watching from the left is really an attack on society itself. the basic bargain in any society is straightforward. people who follow the rules get rewarded. people who don't get punished. if you get rid of that standard, then everything investors. suddenly power flows to the worst people in your society. the most ruthless and aggressive. decent, law abiding people, meanwhile are mocked. just suckers who can be exploited by everyone else. that's where you get -- that's where we are heading by the way and fast. 's it's pretty obvious when you look around. >> the threads are fraying. it's coming apart. hundreds of years of hard work and self-discipline designed to create what we

used to call civilization before the term civilization was deemed racist. people doing this to us won't have to live with the cons sequences of it. that's their guess. their deck can't morons who never lived in a tough neighborhood. unfortunately they are now in charge of an entire political party. we have no choice but to live under that rule. david tafuri former advisor to barack obama's presidential campaign. he joins us tonight. david, thanks a lot for coming on. >> thanks for having me. >> tucker: i'm interested in what is clearly a broad theme where the democratic party, which for generations, of course, represented normal people, the work class, now represent the most decadent in our society and really taken an aggressive posture against the rule of law where do you think that winds up over time? where does it get us? >> some of the proposals that democrats are making particularly in some states like in california and in new york have gone too far clearly. and have you highlighted some of them. some of them actually are reasonable though.

criminal justice reform is actually something that has support in both parties. of course, president trump signed a law that just reformed the criminal justice system. so there is some support for that but, some of the more unreasonable things are like trying to grant voting rights to felons. i think there is some arguments that if a felon demonstrates that he has changed. that he has reformed and reapplies for voting rights some number of years after he serves his sentence, there might be an argument there. but to immediately give felons the right to vote i don't agree with that felons in jail which some people propose to vote. that is something i certainly don't agree with. >> tucker: what about decriminalizing theft what do you think of that and happening all over the country. >> that makes no sense. i don't see any good policy reasons for decriminalizing theft. theft has always been a crime. i think since the beginning of our nation. there are good reasons for it to be a crime. we need to protect our property. we need to protect

lawfulness. that certainly is an aspect of rule of law. you kant decriminalize theft. i don't know anyone reasonable who supports that and certainly i don't expect any states are going to pass any laws that allow that any time soon. >> tucker: it's happening all over the country. it's happening in mass mass. it's happening in texas. the great republican state of texas we just noted in dallas, texas. >> it's a proposal. >> tucker: not a crime. >> but it hasn't passed. >> tucker: it doesn't need to pass. see, that's the diabolical genius of what soros is doing. that's how he is reordering our society in the least democratic way. nothing moves through legislature. there is no vote on anything. if you elect prosecutors who are committed to not enforcing the law, then have you changed the law. the law is inoperative if you see what i'm saying. >> prosecutors always have prosecutorial discretion whether to charge a crime or not charge a crime. >> tucker: sure. >> the people can vote that prosecutor out in the next election cycle if they don't like it. that's certainly what would

happen if any prosecutor actually refused to prosecute any theft at all. >> tucker: yeah, i mean that has happened in a bunch of different places. but, thematically i'm wondering what is the point of all of this? i can't remember the last time i heard a democratic politician stand up for like a normal person with a job who is married and has kids and is just like the people who built a country, actually, of all races and ethnic groups. it's not a racial question. it's a question of behavior. people who kind of buy into the system and try their hardest those people don't seem to have any representation at all in the democratic party. >> well, i don't understand the point of some of these proposals. they don't make any sense. certainly some of it is pandering to voters. trying to create new areas of voters, new people who might vote for you. you know, i would hate to be cynical like that. but i think that's definitely part of it. and then part of it like decriminalizing marijuana. there is a trend towards decriminalizing marijuana.

many states across the country have already decriminalized marijuana. so there is also. >> cleared from their record. support that it was illegal then if you got convicted it should to that argument. some of the things less reasonable like getting rid of theft. that doesn't make any sense at all. people not citizens vote doesn't make any sense at all to me either. >> tucker: that's where your party is moving and high speed unfortunately. >> not everyone in my party. >> tucker: sounds like you are not with them. david tafuri great to see you tonight. thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: stacey abrams has never 45e8d job higher than state legislature in the minority in the state of georgia. today she spends her time promoting the conspiracy theory that she is in fact the real governor of georgia. it's not impressive performance at all. yet democrats love stacey

abrams. joe biden has all but promised he will pick her for vice president if he wins the democratic nomination. instead of being grateful for that because it's quite a promotion, abrams says she is insulted. abrams told the guardian quote i think it is deeply problematic." she went to yale law school that's how they talk. deeply problematic that there would be any discussion of relevant gating any woman to the role of second when any primary has yet to fully take shape. in other words, it's racist. stacy abrams is calling joe biden racist for offering her, in effect, the vice presidency. and not immediately handing her the president itself. but, if biden isn't going to make her president. abrams is hinting she will run for it herself. >> the next election coming up is 2020. >> really? >> i have heard. >> okay. >> will you be running for anything in that election. >> it's entirely possible. [laughter]

>> what would it be if you had to rank them probability. >> it would be an office. >> tucker: howie carr is a radio host and he joins us tonight. howie, so i'm sure like me you have been unemployed at various points in your life as stacey abrams is now. unemployed. she had a low ranking job now she has no job. and she has all but offered the role as vice president on the party's ticket and she is offended. would you be offended if when you were unemployed someone said hey, come run as vice president with me? >> i don't think so, tucker. you know what? there was a hollywood studio mogul in the golden days of hollywood, and he had instructions to his producers, writers, directors, he told themself pity is not good box office. and i don't think stacey abrams got the memo here. you know, she lost by 50,000 plus votes. i mean, this was not a cliff hanger.

there were no missing chads here. she was defeated. and you know another old saying is close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. and she can't seem to get over the fact that she lost, i know, tucker, abraham lincoln was defeated for statewide office in 1858 and he copy back and won the presidency in 1860. i don't see lightning striking twice again for stacy abrams. didn't she write an op-ed piece last year when she was running she owed over 200,000 bucks in student loans, credit card debt, back taxes. shouldn't she be paying off some of these debts? stop complaining and get something done. >> tucker: it's racist to offer her the vice presidency, unbelievable. les you think she is the most unimpressive figure in the 2020 political landscape. think again new york mayor bill de blasio is struggling to qualify for the democratic debate. so just like abrams he is throwing a temper tantrum not letting him on the

debate stage. attack greatest strength diversity. >> a lot of candidates, a lot of the people are concerned about the september rules. >> yeah. the september rules they double the number of donors up to 120,000. >> which is a huge number. look, i appreciate the impulse but i think we have to ask the question is this going to limit debate and limit the diversity of the field and limit the options for voters in a way that is unhelpful? we have to be careful going forward because this is the most diverse field infer since we have ever had in the history of the democratic party. that's a beautiful thing. >> tucker: howie, do you think bill de blasio out of the debates reduce their quote diversity? >> tucker, some people need to realize how lucky they are. if anthony weiner aka carlos danger doesn't start sexting in the summer of 2013, bill de blasio sun employed. that's the only way he won the race for mayor. he was also ran candidate.

he is nothing. he was a glorified city counselor in new york in massachusetts. now he -- now he thinks he is this great statesman. the whole city is falling apart. i was in new york on friday and i took an uber and i got stuck with a $35 congestion fee from 26th street to laguardia, tucker. this is the kind of new taxes he is imposing on everybody to save the planet. and, you know, he could be the worse mayor i have ever seen in new york city. i have been around in new england my whole life. i think he is worse than takens, worse than beam. maybe even worse than john b. lindsey in the 1960's and 1970s. you think he would be trying to get out from underneath that burden of being the worse mayor ever but no, he is running around iowa making a fool out of himself appearing in front of zero crowds. >> tucker: i don't think it bothers him. i think he is shielded by

his own low iq. he doesn't know what's happening. it must be nice. >> lives in gracy mansion and he has a police escort over to work out in the gym in brooklyn every morning. and he blows off 9/11 commemoration ceremonies. and he blames -- when he misses these meetings he blames his staff. he is a real piece of work. >> tucker: great to see you tonight, howie. thank you. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: tonight our investigation into what exactly is going on in the dominican republic continues. the third night in a row. americans being killed there now a shark tank star says a member of her family also died in the dominican republic under similar and mysterious circumstances. exclusive report from that country after the break. ♪ ♪ chicken?! chicken. chicken! that's right, candace-- new chicken creations from starkist. buffalo style chicken in a pouch--

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the family issuing this statement acknowledging the passing quote john corcoran passed away at the end of april in the d.r. from what is believed to be natural causes. he loves and frequently visited the dominican republic. the hotel where he was staying is unknown at this point. the state department also confirming it. we, tucker, are in santa da mingo the capital of the dominican republic. we came to talk to them about the string of deaths. they are unable to go on camera because ever the ongoing investigation by dominican officials in the u.s. is assisting including the fbi. they wanted to stress that their highest priority is the safety and security of americans. really since we have been here, we have got to look at what we have seen in much to give pause to americans considering visiting here. the dangers include first the robbery that happened just minutes after relanded here on sunday of slugger david ortiz a legend not here in boston but here in the dominican republic.

he was shot at the bar and lounge just 15-kilometers from where i stand right now up to six people have been taken into custody in this investigation. there have been robberies here, including one member of our team fortunately not hurt, just some valuables. we are told that is far too common on the streets of the dominican republic and, of course, these mysterious deaths and coincidences that we found. three of the now seven deaths purportedly directly linked to the mini bar. we took you inside that hard rock cafe in punta cana where robert bell wallace in april reportedly took a drink of scotch from the mini bar similar to the one you are looking at here on the screen his niece chloe saying he died shortly thereafter. and then another passed away an hour away here is the bottom line. where do things stand. we were told the dominican officials investigation could take up to 30 days and asking for patience. pleading for patience as they worry about their

tourism taking a hard hit. the dominican officials as you saw wouldn't talk to us. have to wait and see what those results are. we will stay on top of it. toxicology results. tucker? >> tucker: without question. griff jenkins, thanks a lot for that update. appreciate it. well, yesterday, alleged presidential contender bourque promised ibetoo'rourke s somehow elected president of the united states one of the things he will do is reverse the ban on transgender soldiers serving in the military. his words to do this thousand words long. one thing it lacks he never explanation how transgender soldiers will make military's army stronger we mean literally not when school stronger when half the kids don't speak english actually stronger. america days as america's super power are waning fast. china is rising. soon be a direct rival to this country. our forces have been

battered and stretched by costly commitments in a number of countries, afghanistan, syria, korea and others. our military is not a toy. it's not a social experiment. military exists for only one reason protecting the united states and its people. that's it. every decision the military makes must be framed in those terms. does it protect the united states and its people from foreign threats? that's it. but for beto o'rourke and the rest of his party the military is an abstraction not meant to win wars only meant to win votes and to confer virtue on people who tamper with it. planned parenthood claims to support quote choice. their latest lawsuit force doctors to perform abortions amazingly that's true. details after the break. ♪ ♪ was extremely depressing.

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and euthanasia it seems obvious and all decent people would understand doctors and nurses shouldn't be forced to perform any procedure they view as immoral or murder. a conscience clause like this nuisance no longer acceptable on the activist left. abortion suicide cannot be questioned by anybody under any circumstances this week planned parenthood and the aclu sued the administration over conscience protection to protect healthcare workers from having to provide abortion. the lawsuit argues that these protections are sexist and somehow racist. dr. mar marc siegel is a fox medical contributor and he joins us tonight. doctor, thanks for coming on. >> hi, tucker. >> tucker: what would it look like if the united states government forced physicians and nurses to participate in procedures they believe were immoral? >> i think it would be extremely disconcerting and uncomfortable. because, first of all, my role as a physician is to save lives or relieve

suffering. so if i'm in an emergency room and somebody is dying and i have to do whatever can i to save their life, i should do whatever i can. and that isn't compromise. that should not be compromised. when it comes to elected procedures, morality is involved. my personal morality having witnessed and participated and assisted in abortions early in my training, i am morally opposed to them. the idea of a clause that prevents anyone from coercing me or penalizing me or forcing me to perform an abortion, sterilization or assisted suicide forcing me to is against everything that this country stands for and everything that being a physician stands for. this cannot stand. it's absolutely abhorrent. >> tucker: i don't understand the purpose of it. there are tons of abortion clinics, lots of physicians willing to commit abortion. that's between them and their conscience or whatever. but it's not like they there is a shortage of physicians

willing to do. this why force pro-life doctors to violate their own consciences, i don't understand. >> you are making a really great point there. i'm not forcing my more rattle to doctors that are comfortable doing abortions i'm not doing that. >> tucker: right. >> it should not be forced unto me. now, obviously, this is a big political battle. this is not something new to the trump administration. this goes all the way back to the church amendments of the 1970s. when you couldn't penalize a hospital or a clinic for refusing to perform abortions. this is becoming absolutely something that is not going to work. because it's ultimately an attempt to participate in this war for roe v. wade vs. people that want to repeal roe v. wade and it's not medical. it's not a medical situation. doctors give the right to choose based on our ethics, what we're comfortable doing. i'm not comfortable performing abortions. nobody can tell me to do them.

i'm not comfortable performing sterilizations if i had that training by the way i wouldn't do them and i don't participate in euthanasia either or assisted suicide which is illegal in most states. the idea that somebody can impose that on me is not con thennable and this should stand. this lawsuit will be thrown out it. really shows you where planned parenthood is coming from here. >> tucker: disgusting. and you put it so nicely. thank you, doctor. good to see you tonight. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: an employee at the tech company pinterest has been fired after going public with the claims that the company sensorred the pro-life group live action. cochran leaked documents james o'keefe documents tear varies to. porn website so users would be unable to link to the group. youtube by the way took down o'keefe's video about this. here's the punch line they took it down on privacy

grounds. google caring about privacy. hilarious. in a statement to this program, pinterest disagreed. they said they actually blocked live action for spreading conspiracy theories. the porn label they said was only an internal one since the company's first block list only targeted porn sites. whatever reason they still fired eric cochran for bringing the truth to the public. he joins us for on the record interview. thank you for coming on tonight. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: why did you do this. >> i did this because i saw wrongdoing and the normalization of censorship within big tech companies right now is down right unamerican. and i saw this as the fight for abortion. i saw a big tech company saying that -- saying quietly, saying behind close the doors that they believe that live action shouldn't have a platform to speak and the big thing is i want them to have to say this

explicitly. they need to say this publicly instead of behind closed doors passive aggressive. you worked at one of these companies confirm what we expect they are lying. >> this is big. one of the first stories that shows definitive proof. a lot of times people chalk things up it's a fluke. this is the definitive proof and now they are in full cover-up mode as they are trying to protect their pro-abortion distances. >> tucker: what did they say to you when they fired you? >> so security came up and found me and i asked them hey, what's wrong? did i do something wrong? they had no answers and they escorted me out of the building. >> tucker: wow. what do you have to say to other potential whistleblowers? i presume a lot of people at these companies who aren't for censorship.

how should they respond? >> this is the watershed moment, tucker. this is about abortion. you are seeing now with youtube doing pinterest bidding by removing the project varies to video, you are seeing that they are going to do whatever it takes, they are 100 percent in to protect the abortion lobby. and pro-lifers, who exist within big tech companies, there's a lot of us. they need to come to project varies to and they need to expose what's going on. they need to make these tech companies like i have explicitly say that we are on the side of the abortion lobby. because, then at least we know where we stand. we at least know what's going to happen. and what we are seeing right now with live action is that this isn't just pinterest. now that pinterest does, this now facebook -- there is a -- now facebook, now google. they are all going to with this site this as an example of live action spreading dangerous miss information

and they are going to cite that as an example to censor all pro-life content. this so watershed moment. this is a spark for the pro-life movement. pro-lifers within these tech companies come to project vertios expose what's going on in big tech. >> tucker: tell the truth. eric, thank you for being with us tonight. >> thank you. good to see you. >> tucker: last week biden was flip flopping on abortion and this week china. is he ready to treat china like the threat that it is. marco rubio joins us in a moment to discuss. ♪ many people living with diabetes

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>> tucker: carter page to this day has never been charged with anything, any crime. despite that the fbi told a fisa court that page could

be a foreign spy and got permission to spy on him and then even though no criminal evidence was ever found against him of any kind, government agents smeared page with leaks to the media. it was an attack on page's basic rights. americans deserve to know how it happened if it happened to him, it could happen to you. fox chief intelligence coirpted catherine herridge with yet another exclusive prime time report tonight. >> former fbi and justice department officials tell fox the carter page fisa warrant had the potential to sweep up the communications of other trump campaign aids. using what's known in intelligence circles as hops. >> once you get that first warrant, that, in turn, will alert to you other people beyond your target. you can then sometimes get their communication. >> granted by the national security court, the operate washington courthouse a fisa warrant allows the collections of an american citizen's emails, phone calls and text messages. think of it like a web of communications with carter page at the center.

>> once you get the foot in the door, it can give you a basis to conduct much broader surveillance. >> in some cases, agents can search a target's historical data. >> if you can persuade a judge that there are communications that are out there that are relevant to what you are doing and readily accessible and, again, linked to the purpose of the surveillance, you can go back. >> the assembly of the documents. the sculpting of the document is not a one-man operation. >> jim maxwell is familiar with the fisa process from his three decades at the fbi. >> we need to know ahead of time whether or not the information in the document is reliable. and it's constantly tested and challenged. [cheers] >> one month before the presidential election, the page application was filed and with three renewals lasted 11 months. this heavily redacted version shows it relied on the democrat funded unverified dossier compiled by former british spy christopher steele. buried in a footnote the application suggests the dossier was a political

document. >> ideally you would acknowledge in the text of the application saying look, here is the information. we are not 100 percent sure it's reliable we think it's enough and here is our concern. if you put it in the footnote the risk is that any human being a judge would blow past it? >> i have the utmost faith in director ray and the attorney general that they will review this matter and take the proper action. >> department of justice inspector general michael e. horowitz is expected to release fisa review and testify before the house and senate committees. senator lindsey graham recently told fox that he believes surveillance reform is possible even likely, tucker. >> tucker: catherine herridge, thanks for that well, for many years the threat from china to the united states has been growing and for as many years joe biden has been ignoring that threat. now biden suddenly has a new position. biden is deeply worried about china, he says. >> china is going to eat our

lunch? come on, man. they're not bad folks, folks. but, guess what? they are not our competition for us. >> while trump is tweeting, china is making massive investments in new technologies; in art official intelligence. you bet i'm worried about china. when it comes on taking on china let's invest in america. let's build a united front of our allies to challenge chinese abusive behavior. we need to rally half of the world's economy to hold china accountable for their cheating. >> so, yes that is a dramatic reversal. indeed a flip flop. at least unlike topics like abortion, immigration, biden at this time flip-flopping in the correct direction. but, naturally, he is blaming the president for china's rise and not his for decades of negligence while holding high office. senator marco rubio has been raising the alarm about china in congress for a long time now. and he joins us tonight to assess. senator, thanks a lot for coming on. what do you make of the

former vice president's change of heart on china? >> i think first he began with a default position in the democratic party that, you know, largely been taken over at least on their base by radical progressives. that default position is no matter what's going on wrong in the world it's donald trump's fault. so you also see that in some of the coverage by the way. it's almost like coverage that you read in some of these newspapers that is rooting for the u.s. to lose or blame the u.s. for a lot of what china is doing and so forth. so, that's what was embedded there at the front edged of the first time he spoke about it is the rest of that clip he goes on to say but we're doing all the wrong things and trump is doing this wrong and that wrong. this is the first administration, the first administration in a quarter century that's been willing to confront china and frankly has had to take dramatic steps because it's taken so long to do anything that the challenge before us is dramatic. >> tucker: so i don't want to be crass about it but i think it's true and i think you know having been in washington for a long time it is true that a lot of

people have benefited greatly from sucking up to china have become in fact rich from kowtowing to china. do you think that's part of it. >> yeah. but it's not crass. it's accurate. it's the way it is. i mean, look, if you are a company -- let's say you are the ceo or shareholder in a multinational you want access to that market because you are going to make a lot of the money over the next three to four years. you are not even thinking or care what it means to that company not to mention what it means to the united states 20 years from now. they used to march down here right to the white house the treasury, the congress and they would say don't do this to china. we can work this out. there is a different way. let's go to the wto. let's send them a really strongly worded letter telling them not to do this anymore because they were making money over there and they wanted market access. they didn't care about what happened to america 10 years from now. they didn't care what happened to their company 10 years there. they wanted to maximize shares and profits right away even if it was against american national interest

in our future. >> tucker: do you think the rest of the democratic candidates, the entire field almost all of them have been pretty aggressively pro-china. some very aggressivelily pro-china. can they maintain that or will they have to follow biden's lead now and change. >> you know, i don't know if -- i believe there is a loft people in american politics so crazy. a lot of people who basically say if trump is for it it's got to be a bad thing. obviously, now, look, i do think that taking on china, we have a lot of allies in the senate democrats that are for it. but i'm talking about political class. the activist class. whatever trump is for. they are against. and that includes taking on china. you read it in the commentary. i read a commentary last week not just on china, on mexico. commentary came out on friday night in the "the washington post" saying that trump was about to mess up the 25 or 30 -- three decades of hard work with mexico. an hour later the news comes out that mexico has agreed to do all sorts of important things. that is the kind of derangement that has set in and really not given the

american people an honest assessment of these challenges that are before us. >> tucker: no. that's an understatement. and nicely put. senator, thank you very much for that i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> tucker: a lot of concern, particularly among young people about where the country is going. into that anxiety steps bernie sanders giving a speech today saying socialism is the answer. we will tell you what he said and whether it makes sense after the break. ♪ ♪ we call it the mother standard of care. it's how we bring real hope to our cancer patients- like viola. when she was diagnosed with breast cancer, her team at ctca created a personalized care plan that treated her cancer and strengthened her spirit. so viola could focus on her future. their future. this is how we inspire hope. this is how we heal. cancer treatment centers of america.

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♪ >> to choose a different path, a higher path, a path of compassion, justice, and that is the path that i called democratic socialism.

>> tucker: that was senator bernie sanders delivering a defense of socialism, it has been tried over the years you may have heard from venezuela to vietnam, it has failed everywhere it has ever tried but he's hoping he can convince america to give it another shot, what sort of promises can socialism keep? justin haskins is a research fellow, he thinks thank you fo. he said this time it will be different, will it be? >> of course it won't be different, that's what every democratic socialist, authoritarian socialist has ever said in the history of the world. they never say we are going to take away all your rights and take away your property and give it to somebody else, they tell you don't worry it's going to be different this time, this time it's going to work and after 100 years of trying we've had 167 million people who have been imprisoned, exiled, and murdered by socialist and communist

parties. if there's a reason for that, it's because it doesn't work, it never works, and never will work, socialism is completely antithetical to human nature. people do not respond to anything other than incentives or fear. if you can't provide people with incentives, you have to put a gun to the back of their head and forced them that way. >> tucker: it has always been accompanied by violence and you say that's inherent. one part i was legitimately baffled by promising amnesty to the 20 million people here living illegally, how can you have socialism for the world? how can you pay for that, how does it work? >> you can't, it's impossible. not only that but so many of bernie sanders calls, you take gun control regardless of what you think of immigration, how can you have gun control in the united states with open borders, how do you expect to stop all the guns from flooding into the

united states if you really want gun control, you have to have closed borders. so many of bernie sanders policies don't make sense. what i believe he's after truly is just to take away as much power and as much money as he possibly can from the private sector, from people who own businesses and give it to people who are going to vote for him and people like him. i don't think it's about anything other than that. >> tucker: i don't think you're going to go broke on that theory, i think you may be onto something. thanks for joining us. good to see you. ♪ there is no place on earth more aggressively left wing than your average american university campus and that's why most hate crimes on campus are faked. it's also why american colleges have spent tens of millions of dollars hundreds of millions of dollars promoting the diversity

and inclusion agenda but a new survey suggests it is all a waste, all of that diversity spending has convinced students bias and discrimination are everywhere. the survey finds a majority of college students believe the campuses are biased against, black, and hispanic students, they are biased against women too, a large majority of students on college campuses, it doesn't make sense. thanks for coming on, professor. if the majority of college students are convinced that there colleges are hotbeds of racism, something very strange is going on, can you shed light on that? >> colleges are a microcosm of society where you have some victimization that goes on and you have people putting a premium on victimization, i

think on college campuses, though we are spending lots of money on diversity and inclusion, the allocation of those funds aren't used in the best manner. >> tucker: i believe you, can you back up? you say there is some racism on college campuses. it's exclusively liberal, there is no conservatives running in a college in america other than maybe hillsdale. >> liberty. >> tucker: 99% of colleges are run by liberals and you are telling me they are racist too. >> i think racism is nonpartisan or bipartisan, there is certainly liberal racism, there's certainly conservative racism that includes crazy

victimization that conservatives have. there is racism on both sides, something that has been in our society and has affected us, it's like any other disease. when you are dealing with the disease, the worst person with any disease is the person who doesn't know they are infected. that's one of the things that happens sometimes to us on the left, we don't realize. >> tucker: we are singing from the same song sheet, there's no nobody more racially obsessed than your average white liberal in america. >> i would disagree with that. i think people on the right are racially obsessed but part of their obsession is to deny racism. i think a dangerous person with any disease is the person who denies they have it. >> tucker: you've got us coming and going, everybody is dangerous. >> these are the problems we have to fix.

>> tucker: we do have some good news, we want to announce on this show, we want to welcome a new addition, you just had a daughter. jason nichols and his wife welcomed last night a new daughter, maria, here's a photograph of her. we offer congratulations from all of us here at this show to one of our favorite contributor contributors. that child a day old and we look forward to meeting her. >> thank you so much. i hope you can meet her, i got to go back to the hospital. >> tucker: thanks a lot. we are out of time but we will be back tomorrow night, 8:00 p.m., the show that is the sworn and totally sincere of lying, pomposity, smugness, and especially groupthink which is everywhere. i want to encourage you to dvr it if you know how to do that -- we don't. and by the way, the eric wimpell

mug, we are getting 50 emails a day, how can i wake up looking at his face, it is online. sean hannity live from new york. >> sean: that baby is adorable, congratulations to jason. you drag this man away from his newborn baby, what is wrong with you, you couldn't get another guest? >> tucker: i wanted to announce her birth. >> sean: you could have done it without dragging him away from his wife and baby. >> tucker: we needed the father in the studio. >> sean: anything for ratings. welcome to "hannity," breaking only moments ago from "the new york times," major new development in john durham's investigation into the origins of the russia probe, this is huge. if your name is brennan, clapper, or comey, you may want to lawyer up