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there are a lot of people are saying not so fast. we will pursue that today on fox and tomorrow as well. here comes "the five." >> ♪ >> ♪ >> i am dana perino with juan williams, jesse watters, and greg gutfeld. it's 5 o'clock in new york city and this is "the five." over the weekend, some in the party push for impeachment and house speaker nancy pelosi urges caution. the president is not really worried. >> you are not worried about being prosecuted once you leave office? >> i did nothing wrong, george. there was no collusion. you don't even hear russia mentioned anymore. russia is not mentioned. now it's about obstruction of
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what? they hired a man who hated trump and he hired 18 people that were democrats that hated trump. some of them contributed to clinton's campaign. >> pelosi holding firm and not wanting to rush into impeachment proceedings. >> i don't think there is anything more divisive we can do know that to impeach a president of the united states. you have to handle it with great care. it has to be about the truth and the facts to take you to whatever decision has to be there. it should by no means be done politically. >> and the freshman congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez airing grievances about nancy pelosi's refusal to impeach trump. >> nancy pelosi has said so far she is not ready to do that. >> it's quite real.
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i believe there is a very real desire to make sure that we are -- that we are holding this president to account. >> juan, let me ask you about how alexandria ocasio-cortez, she is from a very blue district and doesn't have to worry about her own re-election. she is setting down the marker that the progressive wing won't worry about the other districts because they want to see the president held to account. >> but there is a big difference between impeaching president trump and removing him from office. when i hear alexandria ocasio-cortez speak, it's out of a fury at trump. it represents close to 70% of the democratic base that wants him impeached. but there is a big difference between impeachment and having
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the senate convict the president and remove him from office. it's a matter of understanding. nancy pelosi is focussed on 2020. not only on keeping control of the house and retaining her speakership but on defeating president trump. and looks at the districts you highlighted over the last few weeks and said a lot of these democrats who won in 2018 in the mid-terms were people who came from what i would call purple, maybe even reddish districts. pelosi is a smart political player. >> pelosi has more of a hold on her caucus. >> i know. >> if the progressives made their own caucus could there be more problems for her? >> there could be, but she's not
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going to impeach because they don't have the votes. 61% of the american people don't want impeachment. that's in the cue poll. they are misreading the public. they had impeachment rallies across the country over the weekend. a total bust. no one really showed up. >> i didn't know that. >> exactly! >> and you are in the business. the whole news cycle is driven by impeachment through the press. the press wants to book democrats who want to impeach the president. they invite them on and do a segment. then the media runs a poll and do a segment on the poll and they and donald trump about impeachment. then they do a segment. it's a self-perpetuating news cycle. cnn and msnbc's ratings are going down. the rest of the country si am going to get a beer on the porch.
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i don't care anymore. >> did you get a beer on the porch this weekend? >> i wish! the small picture and then i will move on to the big picture. the small picture begins with this. did you ever get in a fight with your spouse for little or no reason why? why do you do that? because you can. both of off are healthy and the finances are okay. that allows you to bicker. trust me, when one person is ill or another person is in financial peril there is no bickering. because you have have a huge concern. the big picture: we are living in an amazing time. we have to broaden the definition of news to include stuff that is not real news. people are complaining about stuff that may happen, not is happening. there is no impeachment. these are what if arguments as
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opposed to what are arguments. we had this shift to what if arguments over the last 2 years. in the past the issues, what are war, terror, poverty, unemployment and crime. they still exist but you can't deny the direction the world is going in, in solving a lot of these issues. isis, north korea and joblessness. now we are talking about tainted alcohol in the dominican republic. america in 2019 are like michael jordan in 1990 suffering from a hangnail. >> we are heading into the roaring 2020s. >> will kid are playing in the back yard because mommy and daddy built them a nice safe home with a great sand box and swing set. mommy and daddy are trump's america.
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the kids are not worried about crime, kidnapping or wages because they are going up. they play all day in the impeachment backyard. >> one of the polls said that a total of 27% of people want to see impeachment. i saw a news report last night, not on our network, wow, this is really growing! it's 27% of the country. >> and 3% margin of error. it could be as low as 24%. everyone made such good points. >> even juan? >> yes. >> i will start with you, juan. the point you made that is excellent. where does the fury stop for the democrats that shout about impeachment that doesn't equal removal? . we know from the mueller report, there will be another one. it's always a step further. what struck me about aoc's
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delusion, she honestly believes that they risk losing the presidency the next one unless they elect a candidate that believes from true transformational qualities for every american. i drove around six states and texas with the fox. >> 6 dates? >> 6 states. this is a family show. that's not what people were talking about. it speaks to the level of the 16-year-old teenager having the loudest voice. the poll said that 40% ever independents support impeachment. >> you only talked about his point and not anybody else's. >> let me say that it was
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president trump who agreed with her which was a surprise. >> i told you. they are like two peas in a pod. in a room they would be fast friends. >> the fox news poll had 43% impeach and remove. >> president trump responds to liberal concerns we will never leave the white house. greg will break it down. >> ♪ >> ♪ i switched to liberty mutual, because they let me customize my insurance. and as a fitness junkie, i customize everything, like my bike, and my calves. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ wgreat tasting, heart-healthys the california walnuts.ever? so simple, so good. get the recipes at walnuts.org.
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pretty he may never leave office. if he loses he won't go. i said since before he got elected. >> if he loses, trump, he won't go. i said that since before he got elected. >> crazy! it's pure projection. we have been crushing bill in the ratings. he is going nowhere. he thought amendment 22 was a tiny handgun. it's a law that sets term limits. this fantasy that trump won't leave is like jussie smollett claiming he won't leave "empire." trump had some fun and tweeted that his supporters demand i stay long. a 3rd term or more. this teases his critics and gets at their real fear that they can't beat him. that he won't go after the first but the second term meaning there will be more.
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trump critics are getting the public to think past the reelection. it's like a car salesman talking about a trip up the coast when you are still leaving in kansas. the key is in your hand and trump is behind the wheel and waiting for 2024. >> [laughing]. >> dana, thank you. i will go to you first for complimenting me. >> that was a real good segment. >> trump knows how to have fun with critics? >> what happened to me? >> [laughing]. >> that's unfair. >> [laughing]. >> forget these two. i am kidding. who would like to answer first? >> they are doing this because they need a new conspiracy because collusion died. they need this to justify the impeachment push. he won't leave if he beat him so
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impeach him. they are admitting that the media tried all they can to nail this guy and take him out. even if someone does beat him at the ballot box he won't leave. this is why all of the stuff we threw at him was not going to work anyway. he is so tough and nasty and dirty that nothing would have worked. that's why everything we threw at him didn't work. this is based on polls coming out that are showing trump losing to buttigieg or something. some things were tweeted for context. june 1983. mondale up 10 points on rag ran -- reagan. and george h.w. bush beat an unnamed democrat by 30 points. dole beating clinton and known 2001, an unnamed republican smoking barack obama.
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it's very early so keep our powder dry. >> thinking past the sale? they are doing that by accident. >> you think trump is trolling the democrats by his tweet and we should not take it seriously? >> yeah. >> i think trump is highly unpredictable. i hope you agree. >> yes, do i. >> he said he would violate the law by taking information from foreign countries for an election which is a felony. >> not true. >> that's what he said. >> no. >> nothing is out of bounds when it comes to trump. he may be trolling, but i will say this much in response to jesse. he fired pollsters who told him he might be losing. >> no the ones he thought leaked it. >> that's part of the whole team. >> you fire leakers. >> he is upset about this.
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if he had not said ever the election if he lost to hillary clinton he might not accept the election results, i would say no. both sides are beating each other. >> you don't believe he will stay if he loses? it's impossible for him to stay. >> every day you and greg say the power of trump supporters is such they make excuses for whatever. if he said this election was rigged -- >> if trump refuses to leave office, i won't defend that. >> thank you! >> [laughing]. >> what i find interesting about this delusion is how little investment most normal people have in this whole situation. if trump gets reelected, i am cool with it. if he is not, oh well. i had 4 years of trump which was
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a hilarious phenomenon we won't see again. it's not an emotional event for you. you have a car and a job. >> i do. i think it's so ridiculous that the what if, 2 to 6 years from now is something that is like covered by the news. the washington examiner said it's a super serious prospect we should all be worried about and start preparing for. trump refusing to leave the white house or nuclear war? that could fit in there? >> they are a conservative paper. >> because it was an opinion. anyway, it's ridiculous and wasting everybody's time. >> the weird thing these are not dumb people saying these absurd things. it's like satanic rituals at
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daycare centers. it overcomes you. >> the reason i complimented you is in their hearts of hearts they know how hard it is to beat an incumbent president. they say the electoral college is unfair and there will be voter suppression. this is actually a 3rd thing they can add to it. >> i think if he loses -- >> do you think he wants to come back to new york? >> i just did this job and i will do something else. it's about a new hotel. then he will go play golf. >> he will never stop being vocal. >> he will get an hour on fox. >> [laughing]. >> wait, wait, not 5 o'clock! >> [laughing]. >> all right. >> the debate about transgender
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get your money right with sofi. >> a lot of debate over transgender athletes competing in sports. form and current british olympians want this suspended until future research is conducted. they said it's not fair for males who have gone through puberty to compete in female ports. lastly a transgender track athlete said she does not have advantages over her female competitors and says she is at
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the disadvantage. >> if anything me competing against females is a disadvantage. my body is going through so many changes. being on hormone replacement therapy -- your muscle is deteriorating. you lose a lot of strength because testosterone is where you get the athletic stuff. i have to work twicea hard to keep strength. if i slack a day that's like three days behind. >> the policy states that any transgender can compete as a female athlete without surgery as long as their testosterone levels are below a certain amount. isn't that reducing a complex issue to some tiny data point. >> the thing about sports that
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is unifying is the rules. you have rules in place to promote fair competition. these rules are physical. you can see a shot clock. there are lines on the field. a toe to the line and you are out. people are classified through weight and age in boxing and wrestling. these other people are trying to introduce not physical to the arena which is gender identity. what i think that will do is not allow a level playing field for other women. if you have born men competing against women, you will see domination by these athletes in track and field or swimming or basketball. you will see more instances of doping to compete against the born men. you will see i think complaints. you will see more politics involved. i think there will be more injuries. there will be less audience
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attendance. no one wants to watch a blow out. i want a fair and close competition. if it's less than .1% of the population saying you are being unfair to me so you have to change all of the rules to help me. i think they are the ones who are being unfair to everybody else. i feel bad for a transgender person. if you are born as a man and you feel like you are a woman, that's a tough struggle. you don't see how can you make that whole with the rest of the sporting industry. >> sexual orientation is a protected class in minnesota. where do you see the courts going with this? bigger picture? >> i don't know where it will go. i hope they decide in favor of biologically born women. women have worked way too hard for so many decades to end up in
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this situation. martina navratilova, she is a very strong advocate for lgbtq issues. she said it would not be fair for me to compete against a transgender man or woman. she got attacked, trolled by all of these people coming after her saying she is insensitive and that's not right. these people are advocating for transgender athletes, they spend a lot of time attacking and trolling other women who are suggesting, could we at least talk about this? as if that's not allowed. the other consequence is not just what you mentioned, i think it will cause young women to drop out. why compete if you know you are going to lose because of
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somebody 50% stronger than you? >> greg, you hate sports. >> [laughing]. >> you would have a good objective viewpoint. >> that's so cute. i wrote i hate sports right here! >> [laughing]. >> i talked to an athlete who is upset about this issue but says i live in a society where i can't say so. she is not talking about russia or cuba but america. to the point that transgender activists use accusations of homeo phobeio against guys and lesbians to prevent debate about the actual sex differences that ever biologist knows is there and true. i doubt anybody changes their gender to win a medal. do you know what i mean?
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but this is a biological fact we are living through. the only way to deny that is through intimidation and politics. there are young children with gender confusion. the push among the activists is to transition these younger children, like a young boy into a female so that person becomes straight. you are eliminating gays because a young boy with feminine traits might grow up to be a healthy gay man living a long life. instead you put him in a direction that requires decades of drugs and surgery and higher rates of depression and suicide. the left afford those
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organizations -- that they tried to deprogram gays. they hated them. where are they in this practice of plucking confused kids who may grow out of a phase or become a gay and say no. it's better for them to become a transgender female or male. this could end up with years of pain and suffering. sports and childhood are being affected by what is an intense political activism. it scares liberals more than anybody because gays and lesb n lesbians are getting hit the hardest. >> juan, touching on jesse's closing points, this is to ensure quality and ends up skewing it so it's completely inequal? >> i am not sure.
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i am confused. i don't think i have the answer. i don't think it's easy to pick up on greg's point. i don't think anybody will say i want to change my sex to win a medal. it's hard to go through life given the world i know knowing the stereotypes and slurs to people with sexual confusion in this world. i will say this: i think of this differently. i don't think of it in terms of politics like my colleagues. michael phelps had huge feet. is that unfair for him to swim because he is able to push off? if i said to you, i think it's unfair for wilt chamberlain to play basketball because he is really tall? or unfair for someone -- like the ethopians runners winning
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all of these races? >> what you are saying is right. sports are unfair. i can't play in the nba and i tried. however, when you are saying is, why can't everybody august 14, 20 2003 -- augment themselves. >> remember the guy who wore a prosthetic to run. and they said you can't do this. it's like that. i want to keep it as fair as jesse was saying as possible i wish i could see it more clearly on this. i like to give everybody a chance to compete. >> we agree that sports is terrible. >> no, i didn't say that. >> [laughing]. >> all right. >> we have to go. o.j. simpson joined twitter. you won't believe what he is promiseing to do on it. stay with us. makes it beautiful. state-of-the-art technology makes it brilliant.
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>> o.j. simpson joins twitter and his first post this weekend. this is how he plans to use his new social media account. >> hey, twitter world. this is yours truly. coming soon to twitter you will get to read all of my thoughts and opinions on just about everything. for years people have been able to say whatever they wanted to say about me with no accountability. now i get to challenge a lot of that bs and set the record trait. -- straight. this should be gun. -- fun. i got a little getting even to do. happy father's day. >> that came before today's 25th anniversary of the famous bronco chase in los angeles. ron goldman's star said the
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timing of his twitter post disgraceful. >> i followed him yesterday. >> oh, no! >> it took you like two years to follow me. >> [laughing]. >> out of pure curesity. if he retreats me, that could be terrifying. he has the right to do it. he will provide a lot of content for a lot of people in the press. it scares me he is doing this toine score -- to even scores. >> people will run -- i think he is a despicable character guilty of murder. >> he was like my family and i are in the no negative zone. it's all possible and comes out like i will set the record
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straight. you don't do that on twitter because that murder is still unsolved. he was incarcerated for 10 years. interesting he came out with so much anger. that he's been holding on to rather than closure. if he just started a youtube channel about fantasy football, it would be amazing. he would be successful. but because he is fixated on this, he is shooting himself on the foot. >> he wants to talk politics? can you imagine that? >> i can't even. no thank you. >> i think he was found guilty in the libel case. i am not sure he paid that. >> this is what i say to silicone valley. you know how you ban conservatives for no reason. this would be like a good reason. they have the power to do it. i would ban him. >> you would ban the juice? >> yes, sure why not?
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they do it for other people. >> even under the law he is not guilty? >> yes. >> the next natural step for o.j. finding will real killer. obviously the real killer is now on twitter! he found him. >> can we agree that twitter is dead and o.j. killed that too? he just killed twitter. >> oh, no. >> you are following him. worry when we starts following you. you will disappear. >> [laughing]. >> he has 60,000 followers. half don't know who the hell he is. there are people not even sure because they are so young. what did he do? he killed two people brutally or covered for somebody else. >> this weekend bill cosby also got on twitter. what is going on here.
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>> ♪ >> beach boys week. the fastest-7. first up video of president trump going viral after his acting chief of staff interrupts an oval office interview. watch this. >> it's a fantastic -- >> [coughing]. >> it's a fantastic financial statement. let's do that over. he is coughing in the middle of my answer. >> okay. >> i don't like that, you know? you are a chief of staff. >> if you are going to cough please leave the room. >> sorry. >> okay, do you want to do that a little differently? >> he didn't like that? >> where is that from? was that an outtake? >> they aired an outtake. that's why you don't do introdu
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introduce that, that's not a classy move. >> what a jerk. >> also, i don't disagree on the coughing. if you have a cough, you should not be in there during an oval office interview. stand outside. >> i disagree. i think he is a germo-phobe. he doesn't like people coughing around him. i think he is very tv savvy from his days on the "apprentice." this is trump explaining his financing. >> [laughing]. >> please. >> i think the "view" said that mulvaney was signaling to the president. >> [laughing]. >> nothing makes you have to cough more than someone saying don't cough. my stomach was growling so loud
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it was picked up by the mcis. >> this friday is the first day of summer. trading boots for flip flops. if you work for one connecticut town, don't wear them to the office. the town is banning employees. back less shoes could be a tripping hazard. >> how would joe biden and kamala harris show up to work? >> you can wear them to and from but have regular shoes on in the office. >> i agree. >> juan? >> you should not wear them commuting. i think it's illegal to wear flip flops and drive a car. >> well, then lock me up. >> [laughing]. >> my first stint as an attorney. i would walk around in those and i got in trouble.
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>> flip flops you can't sneak up on anybody. a major flaw with that. >> if you spent father's day on the coach instead of working out. a new study shows women find a dad bod more attractive than men with 6-become -- 6-pack abs. >> this is a fake news. it's all about acceptance. they wanted to their members to feel better so they made up a study. this is not true. >> my wife likes people who are fit but not the pro-wrestler look. >> that's not what we are talking about. >> all right. if you talk about guys who are chis chiselled or what do you call
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them? >> i don't know. >> i don't want to talk about this. >> okay. >> [laughing]. >> i agree with dana. no! of course not. >> you want 6-pack abs? the former editor of men's health i will tell you right now people with 6 pack abs stay away from because they are obsessed with their bodies. they are never happy and a pain to eat with and look more at themselves in the mirror than anything else. a dad bod is the great bodies the actors had in the '40s and 50s and '60s. they had their shorts up to here. that was a real man! we would never do a segment doing woman body? sexist! >> [laughing]. >> "one more thing" is up next.
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♪ ♪ >> time now for one more thing, greg. because it's time for this. ♪ >> they are great. don't ever forget it. i don't even know if you can hear me right now but if you can hear me, i like to have fun by myself, i don't hide that. i don't like people. i'm a lot like this crow. check out the escrow, who is counting on himself for a little joy. went to the park, enjoying the old seesaw. if crow on his own. you know, when you're lonely, you don't have friends, sometimes you have to make a little fun on your own and there's nothing to be ashamed of, right, little girl? you're right, thanks you having me so much on your show. that's weird. ♪ >> playback gamin.
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a day dana plays backgammon by herself. >> juan. >> do remember the hit movie "national geographic"'s free solo gimmick here's a video from the credit crime by a professional mountain climber. now, i want you to take a look at this. that's 10-year-old selah schneider. she made it to the top of the same mountain in yosemite national park. she was a harness to reach the peak wednesday night. according to outdoor magazine she is the youngest person to climb the nose. her dad mike is a climbing guide in colorado and he fell in love with his wife, her mom, while climbing it. so for her this was a family affair, a special father's day tree. congrats. >> congrats, andy. all right, jesse. >> you know they have those cat filters -- >> oh. >> you can make a little cat and whiskers and stuff. some pakistani politician, i don't know if this was for real,
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a mistake, he live streamed his press conference with the cat filter by accident. [laughter] live with a cat filter. oops. i think it was the pakistani minister of information. it got a bunch of people. >> i don't know if that's a crime in pakistan. >> i got one. so some coloradans spent their father's day really making a splash. >> oh, wow, pun coming up. >> maybe they go to planet fitness, i don't know. federal -- dozens of contestants dove into the deep end for the chance to win that and other prizes, a panel of judges would see how big your splash was and how red their bellies were. this year's winner was lorraine garcia, a 46-year-old father from denver. he did not only walk away from the mic it winner, but also a role model of how not to smash your stomach.
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>> dad bots help with that. >> yeah. emily. >> this week and i had the honor along with the entire bush family, honoring the would-be 90th birthday of george hw in college station, texas, which is where the george bush presidential library museum is. take a look. >> i've had the opportunity to chat with our former president three times. at the end of his 90th birthday he said i'm going to do it again on my 95th birthday. unfortunately he didn't make it here for his 95th birthday but his grandkids are going to continue that legacy. >> we were all supposed to skydive. unfortunately it was too windy, but we had an amazing celebration all we can. >> you didn't do it? how lousy is that? >> but the all-veteran group did. they still performed and it was really incredible and patriotic and an honor to be part of that's liberation. >> would you ever drum? >> course! i just don't talk about it. >> okay, waiting for us to go, that would be really good. >> jesse, would you drum?
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>> i would never do it. >> i have too much to lose at this point. [laughter] >> oh, my goodness. i've done it. it's totally safe. >> set your dvrs, never miss an episode of the show, "special report" is up next. >> bret: that this is a fox news alert. welcome to washington, i'm bret baier. just minutes ago we learned a request for more u.s. forces to go to the middle east has been sent to the pentagon. the move, coming as the u.s. navy releases new photographs it says proves iran was behind the tanker attack in the gulf late last week. the photos, officials say, show iranian boats placing explosives on the two oil tankers. if this comes as a trust administration amps up pressure on allies to keep putting the squeeze on tehran. iran not backing down, and today they put the world on notice that the iranian -- uranium stockpile limits set by the 2015 nuclear deal will be broken in just ten
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