tv Tucker Carlson Tonight FOX News June 17, 2019 5:00pm-6:00pm PDT
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>> tucker: good evening. welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." for generations california symbolized everything that was fantastic and great about america. the most beautiful place in the world. snow capped mountains, pristine beaches and lush valleys but more than a vacation spot. they supported the biggest middle class in the country. they had a gleaming infrastructure. they made the american dream a reality. now they are known for a different set of images. needles and feces in the street, dying middle class and
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highest rate. california is still a symbol but it is a symbol of everything that has gone wrong. trace joins us with the latest from the once golden state. trace? >> for gavin newsom it's humming along nicely. he says, "america in 2019 is california in the 1990s. the scene row phobia,nate tiff. i -- xenophobia, nativeism. the fear of the other. he said we are working and democrats are inwinnin winning . someone forget to tell him 40% of his people live near poverty and the highest taxes and cost of living isn't giving them a leg up. july 1, they will pay six more
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for gas taxes. that is on top of having the highest gas prices in the country. they begin background checks for buying bullets to quick le return information on felony restrictions. non-california residents can no longer buy ammunition here period. they have less access to bathrooms than is syrian refew gees which is apparent to everyone in l.a. and san francisco. but putting in more bathrooms would cost $57 million a year. you have to feel like homeless don't feel like they are winning either. >> tucker: thank you. the california wages war on the own middle class that tries to build men's room that cost as much as houses the governor doesn't seem a problem with the state as you
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heard. tens of thousands of middle east families fled and continue to flee every year. meanwhile, gavin newsom is traveling to central america telling his citizens the privateer helping the people there. victor is a senior fellow and a life-long multiple generational californian and he tribes the state as the first third world state. professor, thank you for coming on. >> thank you for having me. in what sense is california a third world state. >> it has the symptoms of what we associate with the failed states. highest basket of the income tax, gasoline taxes, sales tax. the schools rated in the last 10%. bottom 10% of the test scores are one-third of the welfare
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recipients are in california. fifth of the population below poverty line. a fifth of the homeless live in california. we have the most billionaires of any state in nation and then the largest underclass. governor newsom has it wrong. 25 years ago we had 187 that cut off healthcare. but not emergency healthcare to undocumented immigrants. it passed by 59% of population. i fueled wilson come from behind victory over kathleen brown. very popular. three days later a federal court invalidated it. they got rid of it, the deterrent factor and people wanted to come the california often illegally. they decided here illegally. that was unfortunately part of a perfect storm.
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four to 6 million people said if i pay the highest basket of taxes to get the infrastructure public schools and the highest crime rate -- they have the highest crime rate of major cities in the united states i might as well go where there is no income taxes like nevada over florida. then the perfect storm was the middle 90s. growth of the silicon valley. over the next quarter century google, facebook, apple would capitalize at $23 trillion. we created a small and influential, a wealthy minorial class. jerry brown didn't live in fresno. he went to grass valley with the pension. dianne feinstein lives in pacific heights, not redwood
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city. nancy pelosi railed about the education but none of her grand children were in the san francisco public schools. we have a wealthy class that doesn't mind the high taxes because it can navigate around that in poor social circumstanceses. people in between can't survive and they drift off. we are less with a row mantized indigent class and the royal elite that doesn't care about the vanishing middle class at all. >> tucker: from the outside it doesn't look like a sustainable system at all. it's teetering. do people running it sense that? or do they think they can continue forever? >> they all have one thing in common. if we look at gavin newsom or dianne feinstein or the former senator boxer and nancy pelosi, mark zuckerberg or the
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architects of the system. multimillionaires. some cases they are multibillionaires. they feel good of virtuous in the abstract. but we are like constan constantinople. we have epidemics of hepatitis "a." we have 140,000 people that are living on the streets in california. we just build a high-speed rail system that we canceled. now out of shame or i guess pride we are going to try to build merced to bakersfield a high-speed rail to nowhere where the three main laterals, tucker, 99, i-5 and 101 have never achieved the intended result of six lanes.
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road warrior in the premodern world where we dream of the post-modern high-speed rail system that will never be built. >> tucker: this is a lot like "road warrior." funny you said that. thank you very much for the tragic update. >> thank you. tragic. thank you. >> tucker: we told you last month, california, oregon and washington have more than 100,000 homeless on the streets on any given night. city officials blamed the low wages, look of affordable housing and other factors. they have thrown tens of millions of taxpayers dollars to the problem. expanded services for the homeless and given them more generous legal treatment. but none made it better. instead the problem got worse consistently and steadily. research fellow says that the local governments are ignoring the most obvious driver of homelessness on the west coast and the rest of the country. opioid endingic. epidemic and
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christopher joins us tonight. thank you for coming on. >> thank you. >> tucker: you say the main cause -- the there are probably many causes but the main driver is hiding in place sight. drug addiction. >> that is right. we have an addiction crisis disguised as a housing crisis. if you look at city of seattle, king county prosecutors and the law enforcement some estimate up to 50% of the homeless addicted to opioids, heroin, fentanyl and other synthetics. 80% of the people unsheltered, people in the cars, tents and r.v.s suffer from the substance abuse disorders. if you look out the numbers only 6% of the people on the street say it's because of the rising rent. 80% of the people on the street are suffering from addiction. but until we address it we can't solve the problem. >> tucker: there are no
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opium fields in the country. the drugs come from abroad, from mexico largely. this is a foreign policy crisis as well. why does nobody say that? >> it is. i have spoken to the field office in seattle and they estimate 80% of the heroin and the fentanyl will come from the mexican drug cartels. 20% is shipped through the usps and the commercial mail directly from the fentanyl manufacturers in china. so what i estimate if you put it together, there is 1.8 billion business supplying fentanyl to the california, oregon and washington. we are sending drugs to the cartels, opium manufacturers in china and the organized street gangs in the west coast cities. >> tucker: so nothing you said is speculation.
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it's true, you have numbers and publicly available to back up what you said. why is nobody else saying that? why are the city officials resolutely ignoring the conclusion you have come to? >> that is a great question. we don't have perfect data. this is the best data i think is available. the real thing is the ideological factions that are in the dominant position in california, portland, seattle. they don't want to say there is an addiction crisis. i will conflict with the social justice ideology that the homeless are the virtuous victims of the oppressive society. they want to avoid stigmatizing the i diction. so rather than going into this with clear eyes they ignore it. if you go to the mayor garcetti website in l.a. he has outline of the six causes of homelessness and not one of them is drug addiction. they adopted policy of the
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denial and deflection. the result on the street is not working and catastrophe. >> tucker: they are liars and idealogues. christopher, thank you for that clear-eyed analysis. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> tucker: well, last week she compared them to racist. this week senator kirsten gillibrand says that the pro-life people shouldn't be allowed to be judges in this country. huh. so by saying something that dumb does she get the democratic nomination automatically? we'll tell you after the break. people, our sales now apply to only 10 frames. a new low! at visionworks, our sales are good on over 500 frames. why are you so weird? see great with 2 complete pairs for $59. really. visionworks. see the difference.
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>> tucker: well, for more than two years virtually everybody in d.c. pretended to know with absolute certainty that the government of russia was responsible for hacking famously the d.n.c. servers in 2016. anyone who dissents from the storyline is attacked and silenced. okay. but how much do they actually know? do they know that really? even the intel agencies take a third party word for it. lawyers for a third party, in fact. their word for it. now the federal government has admitted it's never seen the full unredacted version of the private sector report from crowd strike that blamed russia for the hacks. never seen the whole thing. huh? catherine herridge has more. >> good evening. according to a new filing in the case roger stone attorneys demand a full copy of the forensic report in the 2016 d.n.c. hack. they argued there could be
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information helpful for the clients. this back and forth began in late may when the government confirmed that the d.n.c. lawyers gave them copy of the forensic report by crowd strike, computer security firm. the government said their copy had redactions and the d.n.c. lawyers told them the blocked out sections had nothing to do with blaming moscow for the 2016 hacks. "counsel for d.n.c. told the government the redacted material concerns steps taken to remediate the attack and harden the d.n.c. and the d.c.c.c. system against future attacks. according to counsel no redacted information concerned the attribution of the act to the russian actors." the government argued stone had no reason to believe that the redacted material is relevant to his case because he is not charged with conspiring to hack the democrats. "the government does not need to prove at the defendant's trial that the russians hacked the d.n.c. to prove the defendant made false statements and tampered with a witness and obstructed justice." the cit sedges say the government taken the word of the d.n.c. legal team who has
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a vested interest in the political and the legal outcome, tucker. >> tucker: thank you very much for that. >> you're welcome. >> tucker: well, believe it or not, just a decade ago kirsten gillibrand was trying to brand herself as a moderate democrat. conservative even. she was pro gun and sent a letter to the n.r.a. saying as much pledging loyalty. she believe believed in a borde. she said it, too. modern positions are not how you become a democratic presidential candidate in 2019. only extreme schism will get you there -- extremism will get you there. so by the day gillibrand is adopting outlandish positions to see what she can get away with. now she says pro-life people should not be allowed to serve as judges in this country. watch. >> one out of four women in america access abortion services. a woman has a right to make all the decisions. if you are telling me today that women in america don't have that right, i think you are so backward looking that
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those judges and the justices are not the type of people we should be appointing. it's too backward looking. >> tucker: too backward for kirsten gillibrand. lisa boothe is a forward looking person. senior fellow of independent women's voice and joins us to discuss this and other stories from the democratic race which she has been following assiduously, jaw dropping for months. >> because i'm forward looking. the interview she did with the new hampshire public radio. she was asked about a previous interview with the des moines register where she likened the pro-life belief to the racism. that is how far she has come. as you mention from days that she represented a conservative upstate house district. this is pandering and desperation from the candidate who has struggled to gain
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traction with a crowded primary field. someone in the "des moines register" poll is at 0%. if you someone like mariam williamson, spiritual guru reached the bench mark before her. she is a start from the state of new york. so the fact she struggles to hit the bench mark demonstrates how pathetic the campaign is now. another candidate we have seen similar hyperbolic rhetoric from recently is bill de blasio who was on msnbc the other day saying president trump should be impeached for treason. listen to this. >> what happened the other day changed my mind. that was treason treasonous. they should begin impeachment proceedings. >> that is talking about the
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conversation president trump said with george stephanopoulos where he said he would consider taking the opposition research from foreign government. they are also looking at giving driver's licenses to illegal immigrants. listen to what he posted. >> i believe all new yorkers regardless of the documentation status need to get license the right way. ask everyone to weigh in. driver's license for all. fair. smart. safe. >> so we have seen complete embrace of the illegal immigration from the left. julian castro called to lay out a plan for decriminalizing the border cross something this is where the left is going. the canaled dates that are struggling to register, we are going to keep seeing this rhetoric from them as we move
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forward. >> have you noticed it's people with the undisguised contempt for the country. they are the first to accuse the other people of betraying the country. am i imagining that? >> no. that is true. in the case of kirsten gillibrand i mentioned last week we talked about it. she is my least favorite candidate running so i want to stay on that. >> tucker: i can see why. >> she has no beliefs. she is not beholden to anything and not rooted to any conviction. same problem that hillary clinton had. but kirsten gillibrand is more transparent about it. you mentioned the n.r.a. this is someone called to want to increase deportation for the illegal immigrants and now she is calling to abolish i.c.e. and policy positions like that. the democratic position are move something far to the left. radical. >> tucker: cory booker, neither will win. both should stop degrading themselves.
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>> spartacus. >> tucker: be quiet. maybe people will respect you when you speak and you confirm they have no cause to. it's great to see you. >> , you, too. >> u.s.-mexico border 5,000 miles from africa so why are hundreds of afterry can't migrants streaming across to the country? how is it happening? and why? there is a reason. we'll tell you in minutes. my reputation was trashed online,
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>> tucker: we've got a fox news alert for you tonight. the white house has announced 1,000 additional american troops are being dispatched to the middle east after it says iranian attack of the oil tankers. the acting defense secretary patrick shanahan says the attacks, "validate the reliable, credible intelligence we received on a hostile behavior by iranian forces and their proxy groups that threaten the u.s. personnel and interests across the region."
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so far as iran denied this. some allies are skeptical as well. the united states narrative questioned. everybody japan who says they are not convinced that iran is responsible for what happened. mike pompeo says the proof of iranian is "unmistakable." this is not the first time that the secretary of state expressed total confidence in the sinister intent of the middle eastern country. colin powell made a similar case 16 years ago about iraq and we are still paying a price for that. we'll follow this as this unfolds, of course. for decades the foreign policy issue that has the biggest effect on your lives is the crisis at the u.s.-mexican border but it's a misnomer. thanks to decades of neglect the southern border isn't with
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mexico or latin america american. now it's the border to the world. since may 30, 500 african immigrants have been arrested south of san antonio. 500 from africa in less than a month, it's two weeks. some of them passed through more than half a dozen countries to get to the united states. traveling on foot all the way from ecuador. many of them already know where they want to settle. of course, places like portland, maine, believe it or not where the friends and family settled before them and where they know an accommodating government will provide them with the benefits they desire. latest surge of what is a flood of thousands of people. migrants from africa and asia making long trek illegally to enter the united states.
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why the surge? one reason is that europe tracking down on the own migrant crisis. also word of mouth which is global. millions of people worldwide know the truth. if you show up at the country border illegally and say the right words you'll likely get permission to enter the united states. once you do that, you're likely never going to be forced to leave. this is not a failure of the tactics but a failure of the political will. it will continue until they decide that the america borders matter and are worth defending. don't look for that change to come from the 2020 democratic field. they don't believe it at all. in an interview to axios, south bend mayor pete buttigieg said the endless flood of the illegal immigrants in this country could be a political ploy by president trump. watch. >> immigration is more useful to this president as a crisis
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unsolved than if he fixed it. >> you are saying that the president is using the border crisis to get re-elected? >> the president needs the crisis to get votes. i makes a liar out of him. i don't think he worries about that. >> you don't think he is making it worse? >> i don't think he cares if it gets better. he doesn't benefit from the comprehensively fixing the problem. i wouldn't put it pass him to allow it to become worse to have a decisive issue. >> tucker: so really it's trump fault that the illegal illiens are streaming across -- aliens are streaming across the border from africa. every day they make allegations against the political opponents that describe their own behavior. this is the most flagrant example yet. this one is amazing. border crisis is not invention of president trump. he was elected in response to border crisis. the crisis is leaders of washington that they made over and over and over for decades.
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republicans made it to placate the wealthy donors. democrats made it because they decide a new pool of voters is better tha than appealing to the existing pool of voters. look at called and what texas and arizona becoming. no rush to fix things. for the left, including mayor buttigieg thousands of the african migrants. that is not a sign of failure but success. joining us from the fellow studies and thank you for coming on. >> thank you. >> tucker: so just to take out of the circulation mayor buttigieg's accusation off the top. he is claiming that the president is pushing for more illegal aliens to come in the country. dis it seem likely to -- does it seem likely to you?
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>> it's contrary to everything president trump did in recent weeks. he threatened 5% tariff going up to 25% against mexico to get mexico to defend its southern border. we are seeing unprecedented cooperation from a government that is hostile to any idea of stopping migration through mexico to the united states. the president made the president of mexico andrés manuel lópez obrador step down his rhetoric and put the troops on the border to stop the individuals. we have seen the guatemalan government begging to access the c.b.c. officers to help them defend the borders. the president is asking other countries to do what congress should be doing but congress is not acting because the democrats of congress don't want to. mr. buttigieg is simply deflecting responsibility from the democratic party to the president. >> tucker: even by the standards of the democratic field that is a lie that is so
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ambitious, you have to stand back in awe and respect to say something that absurd. when african migrants are coming across the border from mexico in the hundreds in the past couple of weeks is there a clearer sign you have seen that the system is collapsing? >> that is probably the clearist sign that the system is collapsing. the individuals are paying tens of thousands of dollars because they know they will get in the united states and they will be age to remain here permanently once they get here. the trip many of them make goes to ecuador and colombia to central america. each one of them is asylum granting country. if they were in fear for their lives they would apply for asylum but they are not. the goal is come to the united states and live and work here permanently. this is something i saw as an immigration judge. this is a new group of nationals from the central africa who heard how open the
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american borders are and want to come to exploit them. >> tucker: the population growth in that part of the world; particularly, africa, suggests that the flood could become a torrent. no? >> absolutely! without the support of our southern neighbors in the absence of support from the united states congress, we truly would be overwhelmed with individuals from poor countries who literally spent everything they had to make the journey to the united states. in fact, i think the "new york times" reported one woman said she didn't have one dollar to her name by the time she arrived in the united states. they do it because they know they will come here and, you know, we look at u.s. wage every day, a smart economic decision to make. until congress acts, it will continue. >> tucker: i'd do the same.
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i don't judge them. i judge the leaders. it will change the country forever. thank you for coming on, andrew. appreciate it. >> thank you for having me, tucker. >> tucker: every year increasing number of the transgender athletes enter women sporting events and they tend to dominate. what does it mean for the biological women who are forced to compete with bilogical men? we talk to one after the break. everyone's got to listen to mom.
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she called him totally disgusting after she was arrested on allegation of domestic violence. she is wrong on a lot of issue. basically, every michigan. buissue.but she was right so gir credit. has he turned a healthier pass in life? no. it's a wise idea but it is not what happened. so instead c.p.l. brooded for serve months and today he tweeted at milano you preach about trump's need to follow the constitution but then ignore it yourself. you are a disgusting hypocrite. i don't care what side you are on. where the hell is my apology for you proclaiming my guilt of something i was never charged with?" well, you feel that there are things to worry about, the criminal case, the imminent loss of the bar license, how to pay the next electric bill, the condition of his immortal soul?
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thinking rationally is not his style. rational thinkers don't get anointed as presidential material by cnn in the first place. but milano, c. p.l. it's tough to decide. for decades they have provided athletic opportunities to women and girl on the same footing as boys but now the opportunities for women are shoved aside for the new priority. transgender athletes. biological males who identify as female identify and dominant in many sports. the power lifting for example may have to go to court protect the right of the girls to compete on fair playing field. j.c. cooper biological male was barred from lifting in a minnesota competition and filed discrimination complaint against the organization. a connecticut high school track athlete who failed to qualify for regionals in the 55-meter dash by two spots.
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turns out two of the competitors who beat her were biological males who were able to enter the race because they identify as transgender and selena joins us with alliance defending freedom attorney christiana folcum. thank you for coming on. selena, tell us your story. did we mistake that? you were in a race, two biological males were allowed to compete and you didn't make it by two slots. is that correct? >> yes, it is. i came in eighth place and the top six qualify for the regional new edge land meet. if they were not competing i would have been the sixth girl and moved on and advanced. >> tucker: did you raise your voice and say something, say anything ap about this? >> yes. i have been vocal since earlier in winter. and my mother has been for a year now. >> tucker: what was the reaction you got when you said
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something about it? >> i have gotten nothing but support from the teammates. and from other athletes but i have experienced some retaliation from school officials and coaches. >> tucker: oh! tell us, what kind of retaliation? >> i have gotten difficult requests for me to complete in practice. if i don't fulfill the requests i can't compete at all. this never happened before. only after my parents met with the school principal. >> tucker: christiana, is there any chance of this being undone? >> absolutely yes. girls like selina shouldn't be forced to be spectate lores in their own sports but that is exactly what is taking place when you allow biological males to compete in sports set aside and designed for women like selina. title ix was designed to ensure girls have a fair shake at athletics and are not denied the opportunity to
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participate at the highest level of competition. so alliance defending freedom on behalf of selina and other brave athletes is in the process of filing title ix complaint to ask department of education to step in, investigate and restore a level playing field for selina. >> tucker: do other girls on your team feel the way you do, that the opportunities are taken from you by biological males? >> yes. no one in the state of connecticut is happy about this. but no one has enough courage to speak up. i haven't been the only one affected. there are countless other female athletes in the state of connecticut and the entire indoor track team. we missed out on winning the state open championship because of the team that the transgender athlete was on. >> to underscore inequity, one of the male athletes hold ten
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records inside connecticut that were once held by ten individual girls and established over the course of 20-year period. it's unfair to allow biological male to step in the women sports and dominate them. take away opportunities to medal and be on the podium and advance for scholarship for young women. >> it's grotesque and insane and hurt women and girls and the people who claim to defend the women and girls abet it and make it possible. >> you are right. >> tucker: you are a brave girl for standing up. >> thank you. >> tucker: in the face of what i'm sure intense pressure to be quiet and obey. good for you for not. thank you both very much. good to see you. >> thank you. >> tucker: it's not exactly margaritaville but dozens of warrejimmy buffett say they were wasting away in the dominican republic.
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>> tucker: the problemming come to pile up for tourists in the dominican republic. state department confirmed the death of a ninth american citizen there. dozens of jimmy buffett fans fell ill in a visit to the country. we have been on the story for a week and we have new developments. trace gallagher? >> a 55-year-old new jersey man died in the dominican republic a few days ago. we don't know if he fits in the common denamors that he suffered heart attack or water on the lungs or drank alcohol or drank from the hotel room mini bar. but he was vacationing for a friend's birthday and he complained of feeling hot at the pool. he went up to the room and found dead the next morning. a jimmy buffett fan group from oklahoma stayed at the hotel riu palace.
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114 of them went to the d.r. 47 got sick. we have talking severe cramps, chills, aches, vomiting. some of the people were sick for more than two weeks. the group's organizer six for 19 days and lost 14 pounds says there is a common link between them all. watch. >> everybody that did get sick at one time during the trip either swam at the pool where the swim-up bar was, or they drank something from the swim-up bar. >> another woman said she spoke with the others at the hotel who were not parrot heads and they also got sick. centers for disease control and prevention looking into at least one of the cases. some of the travelers think the illness could be related to pesticides because the workers are constantly spraying it. that would mesh with the colorado cup that were ill in the d.r. and got home to be diagnosed with the pesticide poisoning. they have asked f.b.i. to help
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with the toxicology exams following deaths now of nine american tourists. tucker? >> tucker: thank you for that. believe it or not it's been serve years since colorado became one of the first states to fully legalize marijuana for recreational use. advocates said at the time it's progress. this is progress! we'll improve public health and public safety to get rid of the backward ineffective reefer madness drug laws. all the cool people agreed. is that what happened? no. it's not what happened. instead a few people are getting rich and the state struggles with a new public health crisis, that is a crisis by the way. even a "washington post" admits it in a piece today. colorado law is supposed to restrict the marijuana sales for thosto those 21 or old ever. but legal marijuana stores are everywhere. they outnumber starbucks and mcdonald's combined so for
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teenagers getting access to marijuana is easy. that includes the t.h.c. exceeds what is possible even a few years ago. it's 50 fold what was available when you were a kid. the marijuana use by teenagers is rising again. thanks to years of the pro-weed propaganda many perceive it as a safe drug, lower risk than alcohol and tobacco, which it's not. 215 children visited the children's hospital in colorado to treated for psychosis and cyclical vomiting and other excessive marijuana use. then it had ridden to a five-hold increase. kids don't need to be in the hospital to be suffering. more and more health research showing that the marijuana use is devastating to the still developing brains of teenagers. a doctor told the "washington post," "i hope we don't lose a generation of people before we become clear we need to
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protect our kids' brains." right now in colorado, nobody cares about protecting children. that is true across the country all of a sudden. the state voted to further deregulate marijuana? why? it's not complicated. in 2018, the colorado businesses sold $1.5 billion of the legal marijuana. the government took a cut of the $266 million. that is the answer there. just as with immigration, trade or empowering big tech, the lawmakers sacrifice the well-being ; in fact, the future of the society to cash in now. they are day traders. they don't care about you and they really don't care about your grandkids. the war for the soul of the democratic party continues. nancy pelosi trying to tach down the party demands for the immediate push to impeach the president. alexandria ocasio-cortez says that is not acceptable.
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party demands impeachment, she says. if pelosi won't give it to the party then she is part of the problem. watch. >> impeachment is incredibly serious. this is about the presence and the evidence that the president may have committed a crime. in this case, more than one. >> so how real is the progressive frustration that speaker pelosi said so far and she seems to be really holding on that she is not ready to do that? >> it's quite real. i believe that there is a very real animus and desire to make sure that we are, that we are holding this president to account. >> tucker: richard goodstein has been around the democratic party for a long time. he is an attorney and former adviser to both bill and hillary clinton and joins us tonight. thank you for coming on. >> sure. >> tucker: who is more powerful, pelosi or alexandria ocasio-cortez? you will say pelosi of course. but the question is if you were running for congress, as a democrat, right now, whose
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endorsement would you rather have, pelosi or ocasio-cortez's? >> so democrats are in the majority because of all the districts that went from red to blue. pelosi's district went from blue to bluer. nancy pelosi is speaker because of the red to blue people. so, if your district was super blue, having a.o.c. in your corner would be cool. but it's interesting that nancy pelosi used to be seen as a wailed-eyed liberal. here she is standing up to the liberals on impeachment, medicare for all, green new deals. making her seem downright moderate. god, so you wonder whether behind the things a.o.c. and pelosi have a deal going on? who would have thought that was possible in 2019? >> tucker: do you think honestly that ten years from now there will be any people like you left in the democratic party? 50ish white guys worried about the medicare for all. will there be any left
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honestly? >> so the biggest bloc of the house democrats are the pro-business new democrats. 101 of them more than progressives, more than the black caucus, more than -- i so i understand there is an interest among some to paint democrats being crazy left. it just happens not to be where the leaders of the party are and the biggest block in the house is at least. it's just not debatable. >> tucker: yeah. it's where the -- you are right. you are absolutely right. but it is where the energy is and where twitter is. everyone is bowing to the will of the lunatics. in ten seconds, are you disagreeing with them? >> we'll see how democratic presidential primary voters, whether they are bowing or whether the reason joe biden is now in the lead may be because there are more moderates than there are on twitter. i think we know that as a fact. >> tucker: we'll see how that works out. i'm not hopeful for him. we'll see. good to see you.
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>> thank you for having me. >> tucker: we are out of time. we'll be back tomorrow night at 8:00 p.m. the show >> we'll be back tomorrow night. dvr. stay now. >> sean: tonight major progress on multiple fronts in our quest for equal justice. john durham's investigation into the origins of this russia witch hunt causing massive panic. >> sean: you >> sean: not rank and file. remember last week "the new york times" reported durham's investigation provoked anxiety in the ranks of the cia and according to the er
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