to me it's clear that the iranians are trying to break us iranians are trying to break us between our allies, trying to create chaos. and you can legitimize this way. if we do it with iran, north korea could explode a bomb, shoot off a muscle, thinking that is how you get america back at the table. >> for the campaign strategy -- >> all i can say is if you are not willing to stand up to aggression, you are going get hurt. it was not a very good strategy. this is not an endless war. this is a provocative regime that shoots its own people down in the street, that threatens the business of the state of israel. if you are not willing to take this enemy on, you will regret it.

you put all the pressure on israel. he's a dealmaker, he's trying to avoid conflict. but this is truly a defining moment for him. when obama said you better not use chemical weapons, the rest is history. president trump has told them you cannot attack our allies. that is an unacceptable way to live in the 21st century. they are testing him. they need to do so at their own peril. god help us with north korea and throughout the world. >> are you going to monitor enrichment before deciding to take military action? >> i think if they do this, israel will begin to change the calculations. so, 95% is what you need. the difference between 3.5 and

20 is big. it is like walking across the street. i don't think it is the problem. i think we are trying to find a way to deal with a rogue regime that has been an exponential area force for evil. they know that they will lose. they just don't believe yet that we have the will to fight back. the day that they believe that and they see that -- >> who also seen that? >> thank you thank you. >> melissa: wow. a lot there. that was senator lindsey graham from south carolina speaking there on the issues that are going on with iran in the wake of iran shooting down this american drone. the united states as it was over international waters. iran says it was over their territory. "this is an enemy of mankind.

if you're not willing to take them on, you're going to regret it." what else can he do? sending the japanese prime minister to deliver a message from the u.s. they attack his tanker while he is there. he also said "they're itching for a fight, and they're going to get one." "get ready for severe pain inside their country." all out there, and we're going to get you more of it throughout this hour. in the meantime, fox news alert for you now. any moment, president trump is set to welcome justin trudeau at the white house, leaders meeting as the white house considers the trade deal. also known as usmca. that will be front and center in their talks today. the senate ratified the agreement yesterday, putting the ball in the u.s. and canada's court. also expecting to make remarks during an oval office meeting with the prime minister. we are going to bring you those

when we get them. we expect a mention of iran, i would say. meanwhile, keep an eye on the white house former vice president joe biden, refusing to apologize to cory booker after he was criticized for touting his ability to work across the ais aisle. he specifically defending his relationship -- "his relationship with proudest segregationists are not the model for how we make america safer and more inclusive for black people and for everyone. i'm disappointed that he hasn't issued an immediate apology." but he is refusing to say he is sorry. >> apologize for what question corey should apologize. he knows better. there is not racist bone in my body. i have been involved in civil rights my whole career, period.

period. period. >> melissa: congressman james clyburn coming to joe biden's defense, invoking this, saying "i worked with thurman all my life. you don't have to agree with people in order to work with them." let me bring it out to the couch. david webb. i think the people he was talking about were actually democrats. sitting across the aisle. i just want to make that point. what do you think of this? >> david: okay, everybody don't be shocked. i'm going to actually agree with joe biden on this. i don't think joe biden should apologize, number one. cory bidecory booker is playinge game, and that's all it is. they have worked across the aisle through segregation, through the battles on civil rights through a number of issues that had nothing to do with that particular battle.

evolution comes from working sometimes together. i'm no fan of joe biden. he's been a failure in d.c., but if he apologize her, gets on bended knee to cory booker, and this whole idea that blacks are, that we have to go down this road with them. >> lisa: isn't that what he did to the president when he invoked his comments on charlottesville? he admitted on air that one he said very fine people on both sides, he wasn't referring to the neo-nazis. this is something that he set on air. isn't this the exact same thing that he did, and why does he deserve the benefit of the doubt? >> david: it's about the benefit of the doubt. it's the moment where he says i'm not going to apologize. he launched his campaign on a lie. on a badly edited but cleverly edited by by the media on what he said. >> lisa: isn't that what his

opponents are doing to him now? >> david: welcome -- no offense -- to the liberal politics world, where they are going to eat each other alive in order to get ahead in a debate of some 20-24 people. >> harris: i'm sorry. i just want to get in here appeared with all that has gone on with iran, lindsey graham speaking moments ago, following a meeting at the white house, can we listen? >> when will we find out, sir? >> melissa: you will soon find out, he just said. i believe he was asked about iran. >> what is the timeline for ir iran? >> melissa: okay. with the canadian prime minister, you see there, he is coming out. he, no doubt, is aware of what is going on. we heard from

senator lindsey graham. watching on those that were just a few moments ago, here is what iran needs to get ready for. now we are watching for it. you can see it in the center of your screen there at the pentagon, what will the united states do in response to having our asset, our drone, shot down over international waters for what we are being told is iran? what will happen next with our national security advisor, john bolton, how do now, we're told, to israel? all of this coming together now in the last little while. senator graham with the loudest voice right now this morning. if they are itching for a fight, they are going to get one. we are a lot closer to the confrontational war. he said we are a lot closer today than we were yesterday. at the pentagon, we will hear about what potentially is next. and at the white house, you saw

the president with the prime minister of canada. we wondered what -- when they emerge from the white house, what the topics would be. clearly, the president being asked questions that we could barely hear audibly about iran. you will see what is coming. melissa. >> melissa: i believe i heard the question "what is your response to iran?" "you will soon find out" is what his response was. lindsey graham making a very important linkage. you remember what prime minister abe said. why is he there? what messages he delivering? lindsey graham saying that was a message from the u.s., saying let's sit down and talk. that was the offer he made. their response was to attack a japanese oil tanker while prime minister abe was there, asking for sitdown talks. quite aggressive, you would save your lindsey graham says they do

that, then they shoot down the american drone over international waters. what they are doing, he says, is testing the president. you see what happens when the last president was tested in syria, and there was no response. he says if we don't respond to this, just wait until you see what happens with north korea and russia. that's the case that he was making. >> harris: god help us. so i want to point out a couple things about the camera, which we don't control, by the way, getting a closer view of the lectern. this is the pentagon. the briefing room will holden audio briefing, there was a screen off to the right. they say it will be a statement, and they do not believe they will take any questions at this point. so this is an audio briefing. we could see the screen just a moment to go. we may see that pop back up here to air force central command

will have an audio briefing only with response. let's watch together. >> thanks for joining us on short notice. we just want to get some information out to you guys. we have a lieutenant general, joseph, who is the commander of u.s. air forces central command. he is calling us from the center. he is going to make a brief statement on last night shoot down, and he is not going to take any questions, but we hope to come back to you with more information later today. [indistinct question] >> hello. hello. good afternoon. this is the commander of u.s. air force central command. i am prepared to give a statement, but i won't be answering questions at this ti time. the u.s. navy on our recent

mission in the vicinity of recent maritime attacks. when it was shot down. this was an unprovoked attack on the u.s. surveillance asset that had not violated iranian airspace at any time during its mission. this attack is an attempt to disrupt our ability to monitor the area, and the free flow of commerce. iranian reports that this aircraft was shot down over iran are categorically false. the aircraft was over the strait of hormuz and fell into international waters. at the time of the intercept, it was operating at high altitude, approximately 34 kilometers from the nearest point of landing on the iranian coast.

this dangerous and escalatory attack was irresponsible and occurred and the vicinity of established recorders between dubai and muscat, possibly endangering innocent civilians. thank you. >> yeah, will have this available for download. >> why were there no questions? >> we will address your questions -- it is done for now. >> there was another spy. slide. it said it was shot down. >> okay. >> is there video. >> harris: i was trying to

listen there, as we all work, the reporters were asking where they they not taking questions. they want to make the video feed available to everybody in the media. a central command apparently will handle whatever questions they have. i'm not sure what the format will be. you see people pulling up. that was a lot to hear. flying in international airspace, not over iran, as some reports are coming through. iran does not have independent media. perhaps that is where this is coming from. what we are told from that lieutenant general is that it fell into international waters. of course, this is a picture of what the drone looks like. and the concern here is that it was at high altitude. there were a couple of points that were mentioned. "unprovoked attack."

"attempt to stop air monitoring of the area from international space." so as we watch this, this comes together now with all of the breaking news that we are watching happen, this press briefing via the pentagon with the commander who is looking at the shootdown of this u.s. navy, brought and by audio feed from central command. then you've got the situation of the white house with the president coming out in the midst of his meetings with the canadian prime minister, justin trudeau, here to just take a couple of questions. this is the topic of the day, as our now national security advisor, john bolton, has said to be on his way to israel. you know the threats against israel from iran. >> melissa: if i could just have one more thing. he made the point very specifically that not only was it not over iranian territory when it was shot down, but that it never went into her rainy and

airspace at any time. just to be clear. because this is the defense that they are using, that it was there at the time. the next could be well, it was there, then it was out. they said no. there was no point in which it under that airspace. >> harris: it fell into international waters from international airspace. david, i know you were taking copious notes as this was going on. what do you want to share? >> david: let's pay attention to who is speaking. this is a case where the general give you very specific information without giving you all the information. i altitude, 34 kilometers off. we have been reacting to this this morning, that i can give you from an earlier conversation with washington, d.c. this is not a case of going to work. and best rebels i'm going to israel is a key point in thi

this. they may be facing the united states, but they are worried about the iranian revolutionary -- they are confuse that israel may come in with additional -- >> harris: there has been a lot of conversation about whether the sanctions are working against iran. i have had generals told me recently is that they are because they are doing the dust removal of attacking ships. if that becomes part of the recipe and all of this. military action doesn't mean necessarily you go to war. >> leslie: i agree 100% on that. even how speaker pelosi said that she spoke to, and i think many republicans and democrats would agree that there has to be some sort of military response. others did not feel that obama was right when he drew a line with syria and didn't follow through. we have to have some kind of response.

here is the problem. iran would be a parking lot, whether we attack them or israel. they have up to 400 nuclear weapons, and even if we pulled out of the deal, if they were enriching uranium, they could not amass that type of -- >> melissa: go ahead. we will get back to that in a second. i want to get to jennifer griffin right now, who has more on all of the story. it is interesting for me to note that the messenger so far on this, not president trump you do you have lindsey graham out there making the case. we have heard from military personnel for the past few days who have been out providing that evidence that the attacks on the various tankers were from iran, but they want to make sure, i would say from a messaging standpoint, that they show this isn't about president trump and his temper or whatever else might be thrown that way.

you have a lot of other people out there making the case with what is going on. >> i would say that that is the usual course in this kind of a national security crisis. they don't want to box president and hear the commander in chief is the last person to be brief. the reason they went over to the white house today for the meeting with john bolton and secretary of state mike pompeo and the rest of the national security team, they were not going to meet with the president because i want to hammer out the option and present those to the president. and i think it's very normal in these situations for a president to actually go a bit quiet while they are weighing any sort of military options. it is not clear at this point what the decision would be. you heard president trump. he has already said in tweet that this is not acceptable. he also said when he walked in with prime minister trudeau that

when asked whether he planned to strike back against iran, he said you'll see. sort of leaving a little innuendo there. i think even that is perhaps saying too much. typically in the situation, they don't want to box the president and until they've debated the military options. >> melissa: what do you make of them not taking any questions? you heard them shouting afterwards questions, saying ony aren't you taking any questions? >> there is nothing normal about the way this pentagon press corps has been treated. we use to have regular briefin briefings. not just an audio briefing with no questions, but you would have the chairman of the joint chie chiefs, the defense secretary in the briefing room, taking questions, or senior leaders. we have not had a formal briefing in the briefing room for over a year. it is very unusual, the way that they are presenting information. expecting the press to simply

report on the information without taking questions. and it's been like this for sometime. it's leading to a great deal of frustration. and it is leading to credibility gaps, both with the press as well as with allies. >> harris: and you've got a situation with one of those two acting defense secretary's exiting, and a lot of questions about those in terms of how bifurcated are together the strategy will be. jennifer, i am reading now that representative eliot engel, democrat of new york, chairman of the house foreign relations committee, coming out of the bipartisan briefing on iran, has just said "this is a group situation." i think right now there is a strong balance going on right now to what happened and why. jennifer, we are going to ask you just to set aside if you can. we have general jack keane, required domestic retired

four-star to join us now. we have been talking about what the possibilities could be. what the possibilities could be in terms of our response. >> yeah, well, first of all, let me just say that what is happening here is because of the strategy. it is a ploy on the iranians. what is most visible in the campaign with the sanctions, troubling to their ability to conduct military operations throughout the region. also having a devastating effect inside iran internally. so that is why the iranians are escalating. they are escalating because they want our allies to put pressure on this administration. tone down the sanctions. the escalation is trying to indicate to the world that the

trump administration is risking going to work again in the middle east. the second reason they are doing this is they want to demonstrate to our allies in the region that the united states cannot protect them. that's why they are blowing up various tankers that belong to others. so that is the iranians objective. the other thing that they have to understand is that for 39 years, they have used their proxy against the united states and against our allies. they blew up two embassies, one in lebanon, one in kuwait. they blew up one marine barracks. one in lebanon. one in saudi arabia. a couple of our towers. we never responded to any of that. we never responded to the four-year search campaign that they conducted against us, killing americans inside of a

iraq. we close down our consulate because of it. attacks on the u.s. embassy in baghdad. i say that because the iranians don't believe we're going to respond. >> melissa: exactly. i follow you there. not responding in those 40 years, you mean? >> the only response we've ever made was in the late '80s, and ronald reagan directed military strength, limited in scope, against the iranian rgc. and also oil platforms before that. in different attacks. that ended the crisis. other than that, and 39 years, we've never responded to their aggression. even though they killed us by the hundreds. so that's the issue.

the trump administration right now, taking it at face value, that they are looking at various options. medium-sized and small. the calculation that they are going to, certainly, is likely to respond to some degree here, based on what has taken place, and the calculation and judgment they will be doing is we want to get iran's attention, and we want to be able to shutdown this aggressive activity. >> harris: general, i'm going to step in here for a second if you will allow me. the president is talking in the oval office right now now about iran. we are awaiting those comments by getting some nuts coming out. he is saying that iran made a very bad mistake. it was in international waters, clearly. he says that is documented, and when asked about a response, he

has just said "obviously, you know we are not going to be talking much about it. you'll find out." general, you have just laid out that there are large, medium, and a small package options. what does that mean? >> i can't get into the specifics of all of that, obviously, but just looking at some of the things that reagan did in the past, getting out what is available now. you can see that there are options. you could take an action against the means in terms of the naval capabilities that have been disrupting the tankers. military action is limited in scope. getting iran's attention. but clearly not provocative

enough to think that the united states is going to work. >> harris: i'm sorry. one of our cohost on site, leslie marshall, made an interesting comment. she said we could hit them and basically wipe them out. israel could basically take them out. they may not believe what other leadership for 39 or 40 years would do, but do they have a reason to do this differently based on what we have seen? >> i'm not going to foreclose what the administration is going to do here. but i think conducting a military operation on that kind of scale, is actually a "go to work" operation. i don't believe that is something we would be executing. that would only take place in the event that the iranians are putting this on the table, to

enrich uranium. if that would bring them much closer to developing a nuclear weapon. clearly, the israelis would take great offense to that. they would likely have to conduct some kind of a strike themselves. asking the u.s. and others to participate in that. but that's down the road. i just think in the near term, the likelihood of using that kind of capability is pretty remote. >> melissa: melissa. a speech ahead. >> lisa: in iran's effort to send a message to the united states, don't they risk mobilizing the international community against them? for instance, they exploded the japanese tanker at the same time that prime minister abe was in iran. >> yeah, certainly.

you've got to understand, also, the there is resentment in the european community and maybe others that the u.s. walked out of the nuclear deal. we have a former secretary of state advising the iranians to weed out the trump administration, and better things will happen. you have european nations trying to figure out a way to work around the united states economic sanctions, which are clearly having some impact on the iranians. so we have challenges, clearly, in dealing with our allies on this. as a result of these provocations, it is very difficult for our allies to ignore that iran has clearly escalated the situation in the gult, and the region.

it is clear that secretary pompeo has been spending a lot of time these last 7-10 days working with our allies on this to make sure that they understand the evidence, and to get their support. moving forward together, the pushback on the iranians. the united states clearly does not just want to be unilaterally involved comprehensively, dealing with the iranians, given the situation. >> harris: general jack keane, great to get your expertise on all of this. i know you have been working on it all morning long and could only share part of the story. we appreciate what you help us put together today. a very dire situation as some are describing on capitol hill. we expect to hear from the president. i do want to go back to jennifer griffin at the pentagon as she is collecting more information on this. jennifer, we know from reports that john bolton is going to israel, what other details have you picked up?

>> we have just seen video that the cia director, they have left the white house, they left together. after that, they were part of that meeting with the national security advisor and secretary of state mike pompeo. we do know that the pentagon carried with it over to you to that white house meetings military options for the national security team for the president to be presented to the president. we do not know what decisions have been made as of yet, but i would agree with general keane that they will be limited in nature because the military is going to leave its offering to send a signal to iran but also that if iran does not get that message, then next response would be a lot stronger. i think that it is irresponsible to talk about flattening iran or israel striking iran. that is the kind of language

that should not be used. speaking to utah commanders and anyone who has any knowledge of how the military works, that is not something that is on the table. >> melissa: we appreciate that. you are absolutely right. president trump saying -- we are going to hear it right from his mouth. he is saying that he finds it hard to believe it was intentional. he thinks iran shooting down the u.s. drone may have been a mistake. an error by someone under the command. what do you think of that? >> well, it's possible the president has intelligence, suggesting about the eire d.c., the iranian revolutionary guard corps took it on itself to fire a very serious, sophisticated missile at this american drone. remember, this is a drone that fly very high in the sky.

it is high altitude drone. it is not something from a shoulder fire. not some rogue unit that decided to fire. if so, then you would really question whether the regime is still in control of the military there. and i would say that what i am hearing him say is that perhaps the military options that he has been presented are such that he doesn't want to be cornered into having to respond in a serious military way. so he's going to give the iranian some wiggle room that maybe it was a rogue unit, and this is a way to get back to the negotiating table. >> harris: thank you, jennifer, very much. on this very matter, taking questions. we will watch and listen together. >> president trump: is the drone was in international waters, clearly. it's documented scientifically.

not just words. they made a very bad mistake. >> how will you respond? >> you'll find out. you will find out you'll find out. obviously, you know, we are not going to be talking too much about it. they made a very big mistake. >> what are your concerns about china? >> president trump: no concerns. we will be discussing that. i think we will be discussing it right now with justin. i guess they indicated that they are going to be lower. what are you going to do? you can win them all. should have done sooner. eventually, he will do what's right perhaps. >> can you break them up -- got >> obviously, we are very concerned with the de-escalati

de-escalation. the nato mission. we look forward to discussing it with our closest allies on this. we look forward to the international community. >> will you be meeting to talk about this? >> we've got a lot of things to discuss. >> president trump: i will represent him well. we have a meeting set up with president xi. it is obviously a big transaction that we are talking about. we will see what happens with that. anything i can do to help canada, i will be doing. >> president trump: excuse me? >> are you planning to bring it up with president xi when you meet with him? >> president trump: at prime minister trudeau's request, i will. so far, i have to get the democrats to approve it.

i like your positive thinking, but if you -- and it is really subject to the democrats. but i really believe that nancy pelosi, they will approve it rapidly. it's going to be very bipartisan. it's great for the farmers, manufacturers. great for everybody. and unions. great to unions. we have tremendous union support too. it really is. sort of three countries in trade sense, competing with the european union, china. it gives us a bigger dialogue. it is really good. something that is very popular. i hope politically they can do what they have to do. day after the election, they would win with tremendous support. we have this coming up. i think nancy pelosi is going to do the right thing. >> canada and mexico? >> president trump: we will

see. if they have to do what they have to do. we understand that. you can't have big, tremendous shipments of certain projects. we understand that. >> prime minister trudeau: we were very pleased. >> president trump: i am sure that they will take care of it. probably calling for the second time. but i think that situation is very well taken care of. very important for both countries and for all three countries, the farmers. very, very important. more so between us and canada, but the farmers are really happy with it. the manufacturers are really happy. mexico is thrilled. the vote was very lopsided in a positive way. it was a great vote. and i think it's going to be something very special. the largest trade deal by far. very close to having it

finalized. it means a lot of jobs for our country, a lot of wealth for all three countries. we are really competing against the world. not so much each other. this really brings us into a position. that is what we are doing. we are competing against big sections of the world, including asia, and including other areas, and i think is going to be very special. the biggest ever made. >> would you invite the toronto raptors to the white house? >> president trump: well, we already thought about that. that's an interesting question. they played phenomenal basketball. i watched a little bit of it. they were really terrific. congratulations. that was a great job by a great team. we will think about it. we have a lot of other folks coming, and the presidential medal, we are going to be presenting it to roger penske.

he is a great gentleman who has won 18 indianapolis 500. he is won -- he just won daytona. daytona, indianapolis, probably more than anybody in the history of racing. i can't imagine anybody even being close. roger penske is going to be getting the medal of freedom. he's very thrilled to be getting at, and that will be announced over the next little while. actually, i am announcing it right now. we will be putting something out. we will be putting something out of him a little while. he's a great gentleman. i've known him a lot time. a very brilliant guy. when you think of all the countries that want to win indianapolis and daytona, and they fight. even canada. they spend a lot of money. when man wins at 18 times, and he just won the daytona, and he won many things over the course of the years, and he's become a

very successful man. we talked about electric currents today. i think nobody knows more about that subject in terms of common sense then roger penske. he will be receiving the presidential medal of freedom. >> do you still hold that opinion? >> president trump: oh, absolutely. when i came here, iran was in 14-18 different ways of conflict. they were screaming "death to america." and i think probably iran made a mistake. i would imagine it was a general or somebody that made a mistake in shooting that drowned down. fortunately, it was unarmed. there was no man in it. over international waters. clearly, but we did not have a man or woman in the drone. would have made a big difference. i tell you what, would have made a big, big difference.

i am may be wrong, and i may be right, but i'm right aloud. it was a mistake made by somebody who shouldn't have been doing what they did. i think they made a mistake. not just the country made a mistake, but somebody under command of the country made a mistake. >> you are talking about iran's leadership? >> let's see what happens. let's just see what happens. it's all going to work out. i don't know. i find it hard to believe it was intentional, if you want to know the truth. it could have been somebody who was loose and stupid that did it. we will be able to report back, and you will understand exactly what happened, but it was a very foolish move, and that i can tell you. >> were others in your administration pushing you into that -- >> in many cases, it is the opposite. i want to get out of these endless wars. i campaigned on that.

we have been in afghanistan, and we have reduced very substantially in afghanistan. we took back 100%. when it was 99%, i said we are going to get out. everybody went crazy. i will finish it up. we've got 100%, so we are pulling a lot of people back. but this is something, this is a new wrinkle. a new fly in the ointment shooting down the drums. this country will not stand for it. that i can tell you. thank you very much. >> thank you! >> thanks, guys. thank you. thank you. thank you. thanks, guys. thank you. >> thank you. >> let's go. >> press. press, thank you.

>> thank you. >> thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> we are leaving now, cnn. thank you. >> harris: letting the microphone thing a little bit there. sometimes you can hear the president, but we couldn't hear him audibly responding to many of the shouted questions. one thing he was asking, and i saw you kind of perk up, there are reports, according to the way she asked the question, bob reports that some in the administration may be pushing you. sometimes it is the other way around. i saw you kind of set up. what you think about the information we discovered there? >> david: you have a lot of people who want to project their outcomes that they want. if you seek peace, prepare for war, be ready. be capable, be other. i have known him a long time, but he does not want to go to

work. this military action also does not mean war. that is the position the president is in. he has three supporting elements in the middle east that threatened iran. israel, the saudis, that dynamic. you've got turkey that once you but i cannot get involved. so iran in many ways is not just dealing with the united states, they are dealing with other actors in different levels. we haven't talked about cyber, brought into active command within the pentagon. which means cyber is an option here. >> melissa: one of the things i was so interesting was he did build and a lot of wiggle room when he talked about iran shooting down the drone, may have been the mistake. he said i don't mean it like that was a big mistake, but like it may have actually been and on for his ever. someone in the iranian government may have made a

mistake. "i find it hard to believe it's intentional, if you want to know the truth." he is kind of building in there that it may not have been command but somebody who sort of went rogue. he also made the point that there were no people in the drone, that if there were americans in there, they would have been a totally different situation. so there's a lot of tempering of the hawkishness there. >> lisa: what i am told is if you look at this specific drone, it has a specific ally pattern. iranians may have known that this is not, or at least taken then calculated risk if, in fact, this was intentional. if this was a direct provocation by the iranians, then that would mean that we would have to respond to some degree. and i don't think anyone in the world once i kind of conflict, given the strait of hormuz, given the amount of food and oil that goes through.

just to understand sort of the back story of the conflict between who governs ad, it is international territory, but the way the iranians he had it is also governed through an administrative standpoint in terms of air traffic control. so the iranians how long conflated those two, believing about that territory is theirs. given that mike even though that is not what the international law would show. >> david: there are other actors and those that don't want this to get further in, those who have economic interest. they are talking about that. that is a key point. >> harris: we are going to click continue with our coverage of this. we have brand-new video. this could be part of that evidence that he was talking about. we are going to give that up for you right after this quick break. stay with o us. w that they're always going to take care of us. it was an instant savings and i should have changed a long time ago.

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>> melissa: we have brand-new video just coming in of this drone. we have been talking about being shot down over iran. let me take you to jennifer griffin as she tells us more about it. >> let me clarify. it was shot down by an iranian surface-to-air missile. >> melissa: forgive me. >> everything is so sensitive in

this region right now. what you're seeing is the actual impact from the surface to air missile, fired, we are told, by the head of u.s. air operations out in the gulf from an iranian town. it was fired at the global hawk drone that was flying up above the gulf of oman nearing the strait of hormuz. over international waters, according to defense department officials, who just spoke on the issue. this video was released by the pentagon just moments ago. it shows the actual moment of impact. it's a very quick video. you heard the president say just moments ago that this was a mistake by the iranians. but he also give them some wiggle room, saying that it may not have been intentional. and that suggesting that it may have been some rogue unit or person who took it upon themselves to fire the missile at the u.s. drone. the u.s. military saying that

this proves that -- some of the evidence that they have released proves that the global hawk drone, which flies at a very high altitude, flying over international waters. not over iran at the time. as hard for us to tell from the evidence that the u.s. military has presented, if, in fact, that was the case. you would want to know where the debris landed, and it's hard to know the coordinates, but from what the u.s. military is saying, that drone was in international waters about 20 miles from the coastline of iran. in that case, this is what escalated this to an international crisis. >> melissa: forgive me for saying this, but that is exactly what we thought this video is going to prove, was that it was over international waters and not over iran. that is the point of dispute. i am so sorry that i said that backwards from what i actually meant. there isn't anything in here

that would help us decipher that this is international waters, right? because this is the problem. it is just an aerial shot. we don't know anything about longitude, latitude, height, or location. there is nothing from the video that can help prove the military's case. but again, they are declassifying and releasing a bunch of information as quickly as they can because they know that it is so important to me, to prove to the world that in fact the surveillance drone, spy drone was flying over international waters. >> melissa: i just want to go back to one of the points that you made before -- were you going to say this? >> harris: david and i are over here drawing pictures together. you caught when the lieutenant general said earlier, that this is 34 kilometers out. what was your -- >> david: geography matters here. he laid out high altitude. 34 kilometers from lanphier jennifer just talked about the town, the point of origin.

you start to draw that together. it makes it pretty clear that this is over international waters. we are going to wait on further evidence. >> harris: absolutely. >> melissa: i wanted to ask jennifer this -- >> harris: that is what the person was talking about. >> melissa: making the point that this may have been an accident. maybe perhaps leaders in iran aren't in control of it anymore. can you make the point for us again? >> i think that would be the conclusion. either that the iranian leadership is not in control of the iranian revolutionary guard units that -- if they took it upon themselves, without going up the chain of command to fire this weapon, that would be one explanation, but i don't think -- again, we don't have proof of that. what i think the president is likely doing is leaving the iranian leaders wiggle room to say that this was of a rogue unit, so that he can get those iranian leaders back to the negotiating table so that they can hang around an the nuclear

accord that the president and the white house and this administration tore up a year ago. that is the goal of not escalating those to war, per se. getting both sides back to the negotiating table so that they can have an agreement and this sort of tit for tat retaliation escalated in. >> melissa: we want to say that there is a tentative plan for the white house to do a debriefing on iran and the situation room at 3:30 p.m. so, very important information. this is when they are going to get together. or "outnumbered" in just a moment, though. don't go away. limu's right. liberty mutual can save you money by customizing your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. oh... yeah, i've been a customer for years.

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>> melissa: events keep moving forward as we are speaking, mitch mcconnell is heading to the white house for a briefing later today, this is one of his spokespeople out there.

a lot of moving parts, you don't want to move your dial. we will be back here at noon eastern tomorrow but now, here is harris. >> harris: we continue our breaking news coverage of developments in the provocation that could push the u.s. and iran closer towards some sort of confrontation, perhaps. new reaction from the president that we showed you just moments ago. "outnumbered overtime" now, i'm harris faulkner. the u.s. military has released new video saying it shows iran shooting down one of its drones in an unprovoked attack, flying in international airspace. this is our commander for iran's revolutionary guard, saying those shooting says "a clear message to the united states that it's ready for war." the president who has now been briefed on throughout the morning and vases iran has made a big mistake.